Memorialize violence victims with wall

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The city of Augusta has had enough of violence, death and murder. We have opened the doors to help so many who needed help. Now the time has come to remember the innocent victims killed on our streets.

Therefore, The United Coalition for Humanity has officially begun a campaign to erect in Augusta the first marble Victims Memorial Wall -- remembering innocent babies, men and women who lost their lives to violence.

The wall will serve as a lasting testament to their memories, and as a constant reminder that we will never stop fighting for peace. In addition, it shall stand as a symbol of unity and healing for all who wish to join the families in making this tribute a reality, as one donor has promised to do.

Parents and the community, we must do our part to help change the lives of our children. As II Chronicles 7:14 tell us to pray, God will "hear from heaven" and heal the land. If not, we will live in hope, but die in despair.

The Rev. Larry Fryer

Augusta

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howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 11/16/10 - 11:28 pm
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The only "wall" needed to

The only "wall" needed to prevent most children from being victims of violence, or growing up to commit acts of violence is the "wall" of a solid family unit -- both a Mom and a Dad at home to raise the children. The root of so much violence in Augusta is poverty, crime, gangs, and drugs that result from single parent homes. It's a vicious cycle. Promote and defend the traditional family and teach personal accountability and responsibility. That's how you'll end a lot of the violence. That's where the effort and resources need to placed -- not in building some wall. Treat the root of problem, not just throw money on a symptom of the problem.

soldout
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soldout 11/17/10 - 01:09 am
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Our society has promoted sin.

Our society has promoted sin. We have rewarded lazy. We kick God out of everything and expect people to have morals. The devil has used government and the school to destroy the family. We vote for folks who think killing unborn babies is okay and then are surprised when our young people die in the street. It is called the spirit of death and until it is stopped there is no hope. We can't reap a crop of life sowing the seeds of death.

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GGpap 11/17/10 - 02:45 am
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I am curious, just what has

I am curious, just what has the United Coalition for Humanity done to help stop the violence that leads to the escalating numbers of men, women and children that would end up with their names inscribed on this wall of memories? What have they done that might significantly restore the peace they claim they are fighting for?

It seems to me that HOWCANWEKNOW has a much better answer than the one proffered by the United Coalition for Humanity (which is the suggestion that a marble wall be erected). I would expect that this "wall" would also be endowed with a plaque stating that this fine organization was responsible for its erection...just another sign of hubris that would provide for the edification of its originators.

GGpap

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carcraft 11/17/10 - 06:33 am
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I am wondering if the gang

I am wondering if the gang bangers killed in bad drug deals etc are going to be "honored" on this wall also?

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 11/17/10 - 07:37 am
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Well said, soldout.

Well said, soldout.

corgimom
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corgimom 11/17/10 - 08:46 am
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Soldout, I have morals, and

Soldout, I have morals, and so do most people. God hasn't been kicked out of society. And despite your gloom and doom postings, the vast majority of Americans are NOT criminals.

JesusIsComing
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JesusIsComing 11/17/10 - 09:38 am
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And these new walls will be

And these new walls will be built around the housing projects?

dani
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dani 11/17/10 - 09:50 am
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I agree with soldout. The

I agree with soldout. The truth should be spoken more often.
A speaker recently said at a meeting that the lack of worshipping God, secularism, leads to loss of freedom, and there slavery thrives.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 11/17/10 - 10:02 am
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Totally agree with GGpap. Mr.

Totally agree with GGpap. Mr. Fryer is a CME preacher. He should know that the primary problem behind city violence is the fact that 3 out 4 African Americans in this area are born with no father at home. That is the root of the issue. Until more stability and responsibility is found in this single-parent sub-culture, you'll always have kids turning to gangs, drugs, and violence instead of education and work.

Some of these single moms, I know, are working multiple jobs to try and raise their kids as best they can. But, that just doesn't cut it, for most. As I have posted before, it does NOT take a village (or a gov't) to raise a child; ideally, it takes 2 committed parents who accept the responsibility for their kids and model successful behaviors for these kids to follow.

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Rolling Eyes 11/17/10 - 10:22 am
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There already exists special

There already exists special memorial places here in Augusta where victims names are engraved in marble. Friends and families can privately visit lost loved ones to reflect as often as they wish. The public can also go there if they feel so inclined. These places are called cemeteries.

Its easy to foresee this wall becoming a new slang phrase among the gangs and other violent people. "I'm gunna see your name on "The Wall"!

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bettyboop 11/17/10 - 11:15 am
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Rev.Fryer....really??????

Rev.Fryer....really??????

dougk
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dougk 11/17/10 - 11:16 am
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I sure hope this group
Unpublished

I sure hope this group reconsiders this project......it's a really bad idea.

usafvet
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usafvet 11/17/10 - 11:24 am
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Absurd, ridiculous, idiotic,

Absurd, ridiculous, idiotic, pathetic, self gratifying, and so many other adjectives to describe this article. Why not simply buy a pail of white wash and throw on the problem. Sounds like another scheme to get tax monies to fund something to bear an egoist's name. NO THANKS.

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dichotomy 11/17/10 - 11:33 am
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Another useless symbolic

Another useless symbolic gesture which helps no one. All of these non-profit and charity groups are always claiming to have programs and projects to "raise awareness" of this problem but none have done anything that actually reduces the problem. They waste tons of private donations and taxpayer money and the problem just keeps getting worse. Take the taxpayer money, build more prisons, and lock the offenders up the FIRST time for a LONG time and the instances of violence will go down. We all know it but no one wants to do anything about it except to build a wall to memorialize their failures. Our judges could reduce this problem tomorrow except they all have the Judge Jolly syndrome. How many of these "innocent" victims were killed by people who have been given probation or minimum sentences for a prior offense by one of our local prgressives.....err judges.

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Jane18 11/17/10 - 11:39 am
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Exactly, Rolling Eyes! When

Exactly, Rolling Eyes! When this first came out and I read it, I told my husband those very same words. Pastor Fryer mentioned innocent babies, does that include the aborted ones? Baby Doe1, Baby Doe2, Baby Doe3,.........................................?????

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/17/10 - 11:43 am
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Hasn't Rev. Fryer gone a bit

Hasn't Rev. Fryer gone a bit over the top with this sentence?

The wall will serve as a lasting testament to their memories, and as a constant reminder that we will never stop fighting for peace.

LynxRHot
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LynxRHot 11/17/10 - 11:42 am
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How about putting the

How about putting the memorial right in front of Planned Parenthood? If we want to talk about innocent lives lost, that is the best place for it.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/17/10 - 11:53 am
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Rev. Fryer wrote: Therefore,

Rev. Fryer wrote:

Therefore, The United Coalition for Humanity has officially begun a campaign to erect in Augusta the first marble Victims Memorial Wall -- remembering innocent babies, men and women who lost their lives to violence.

Okay, the “campaign” has begun. I suppose a sub-committee is searching for a parcel of land to buy.

Rev. Fryer continued:

. . . . [the wall] shall stand as a symbol of unity and healing for all who wish to join the families in making this tribute a reality, as one donor has promised to do.

Now we get to the nitty gritty. The United Coalition for Humanity will require donations to make this thing happen. Will the donors get any kind of schedule of when the land will be purchased, the architect selected, and the design approved? Will this whole idea be secretly scrapped a couple of years from now and the donations re-directed to whatever splinter groups come out of the defunct “coalition?” Is Little Lamb a cynic or a realist?

Jane18
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Jane18 11/17/10 - 12:14 pm
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I vote realist, Little Lamb.

I vote realist, Little Lamb.

Jane18
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Jane18 11/17/10 - 12:16 pm
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That is a bit cynical!!

That is a bit cynical!!

corgimom
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corgimom 11/17/10 - 05:53 pm
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What a waste of money. What

What a waste of money.

What about a memorial to people that lose their lives to drunk/impaired driving? Murder is murder, and you don't get much more innocent than driving down the road, minding your own business.

What's the difference?

corgimom
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corgimom 11/17/10 - 05:56 pm
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Little Lamb is just plain

Little Lamb is just plain smart.

Cadence
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Cadence 11/17/10 - 07:14 pm
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Who decides who is

Who decides who is "innocent?" You would not believe how many times I have heard criminals defended by friends and family as "innocent". I shudder to think of the names who will be memorialized on this thing. I agree that we must try our best to solve the problem, and that the bible says to pray. Building idols of stone is not recommended.

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gaspringwater 11/17/10 - 07:52 pm
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howcanweknow - Out of wedlock

howcanweknow - Out of wedlock births are increasing throughout the industrialized world, in Iceland, 66 percent of children are born to unmarried mothers; in Sweden, the share is 55 percent. But experts say the increases in the United States are of greater concern because couples in many other countries tend to be more stable and government support for children is often higher.

“In Sweden, you see very little variation in the outcome of children based on marital status. Everybody does fairly well,” said Wendy Manning, a professor of sociology at Bowling Green State University in Ohio. “In the U.S., there’s much more disparity.”

Out-of-Wedlock Birthrates Are Soaring, U.S. Reports

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/13/health/13mothers.html?_r=1

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raul 11/17/10 - 09:12 pm
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Didn't we cover this topic

Didn't we cover this topic before? As I said then, ill conceived idea and a short list of victims.

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ameliaf 11/17/10 - 09:46 pm
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Take all that money raised

Take all that money raised for this memorial.

*Set-up a program to mentor 10 young black males.
*Put them all in the same private school and give them a subscription to National Geographic and give them 1 book a month suitable to their age.
*Meet with the children once a week and teach the children to speak standard English and require they speak it in any conversation you have with them and at school. Each month, at one of those meetings, have them discuss with you one article from the magazine and the book they were supposed to read.

*Tell each child that he will have a college or technical education paid for if he finishes high school, stays off drugs, and doesn't get a girl pregnant.

Will this work? Maybe not, but it is better than not addressing the problem. Ranting and raving have not proved successful in changing the situation.

" On any given day, nearly 23 percent of all young Black men ages 16 to 24 who have dropped out of high school are in jail, prison, or a juvenile justice institution in America...compared to only 6 to 7 of every 100 Asian, Hispanic or White dropouts."

"Black dropouts experienced the highest jobless rate at 69 percent followed by Asians at 57 percent and Whites at 54 percent."

41% of black females and 52% of black males do not graduate from high school.

Until these statistics change, all the catterwalling is just blowing smoke.

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AutumnLeaves 11/17/10 - 10:03 pm
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Not one dime of public money

Not one dime of public money should go to this. It should be privately done only. If you want to donate, donate to schools in the county that need school supplies for children whose parents are unable to provide them, or to law enforcement to provide more personnel and resources for solving cold cases and to provide more police coverage for areas that are hot spots of criminal activity. Or donate to places that help families get back on their feet that have been displaced through no fault of their own. Donate to areas that you personally see a shortfall. But remember CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME! Make sure you are accountable and responsible for your own families before you start volunteering to honor or help others.

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AutumnLeaves 11/17/10 - 10:08 pm
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And if you DO make a

And if you DO make a monument, don't make it out of any valuable recyclable material. It will be stolen for scrap in this economy. Also, don't be so naive as to think it will escape vandals. If a young lady who is sweet to your face will walk up in broad daylight to a neighbor's front door minutes after she drives away, pull out all the flowers in the flower box and stomp on them, for no apparent reason, no explanation, no apology, no owning up to it, what else will people do around here?

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