Paper is wrong on Ground Zero mosque

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The Chronicle could not be more wrong in its opinion regarding the Islamic cultural center in lower Manhattan.

First, it has the facts wrong. The Cordoba House will not be at Ground Zero. It will be a couple blocks away among restaurants, shops, buildings and churches. The Cordoba House fits in neatly among them while none of them are appropriate for this, or any other, actual memorial site.

Second, The Chronicle uses the same line other opponents begin with, asserting that it has nothing to do with religious freedom. Hogwash. It has everything to do with religious freedom. The Chronicle asserts that it is instead a matter of religious tolerance. But tolerance is the commodity a minority religion needs where there is an absence of religious freedom.

Our country was founded on the combination of religious freedom and government neutrality. That is what President Obama was driving at. Excepting pre-existing, neutrally-applied laws such as fire codes, it is simply not the government's business to weigh in on this matter. The president is the patriot for reminding us of this. The Chronicle staff and other opponents are the ones that need a civics course.

The Chronicle is right to compare this to other extremists, but its conclusions are in error and there are better examples. Just as James von Brunn (killer of the guard at the Holocaust Memorial) and Scott Roeder (killer of abortion doctor George Tiller) did not act on behalf of law-abiding U.S. Christians, the 9-11 attackers did not act on behalf of law-abiding U.S. Muslims. And that is precisely what we are dealing with here.

When The Chronicle and others of its ilk compare the law-abiding U.S. Muslims involved with the Cordoba House to the 9-11 attackers, it is, for all intents, defaming more than 10 million law-abiding U.S. citizens for the sole reason that their religion is both different from that of The Chronicle's staff and the same as the 9-11 villains over whom they asserted no control.

Finally, The Chronicle gets it wrong when it says much of the Muslim world will see this as a monument to the 9-11 attackers. Certainly some in that world will see it that way. But the vast majority, who are law-abiding citizens of their own countries, will judge our leadership, and talk of freedom, based on what we do here.

We can listen to The Chronicle and let them down, or we can "walk the talk" and engender the goodwill that reduces the hostility that leads to al-Qaida recruits and, as a consequence, larger threats to our soldiers overseas and ourselves at home.

It's a good thing this country is based on religious freedom. If we lacked it, and had to rely on the tolerance of those like The Chronicle's staff, the law-abiding religious minority citizens of this country would have much to fear.

Matt Alan

North Augusta, S.C.

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johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 08/29/10 - 08:13 pm
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Two news talk shows, one on

Two news talk shows, one on PBS, had Muslim as guests and call ins to the shows. Both shows featured a vast majority of comments that wondered who the financiers are who are supplying $200 million for an unwanted building in NYC when there are millions of suffering Muslim in Pakistan and Afghanistan and the Gaza. All of the guests and callers seemed to feel petro-dollars were from Iran and Saudi Arabia. None of the Muslim seemed to understand why this celebratory mosque needed to be built at ground zero, except for some obscure political "reasons".
ALL of you myrmidons that are chirping "religious freedom" and other silly comments are simply chanting back the hard left liberal mantra.

GGpap
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GGpap 08/29/10 - 08:14 pm
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HOWCANWEKNOW writes, "Like

HOWCANWEKNOW writes, "Like millions of other atheists, Justice for Eva will pass away and be gone from history. The Bible will remain and will continue to influence countless of lives from here forward."

He appears to be blind to the fact that christianity is in the decline worldwide; and that it has been for a great many years.

Nothing lives forever HOWCANWEKNOW, not even the solidly entrenched polytheism of the ancient Egyptians that succumbed to otherworld influences after surviving for 3000+ years; the brief monotheistic interruption under Akhenaten (c.1351-34 BC) notwithstanding.

Sadly, Islam is on the rise for now, and as an atheist I shall dread that 'til I too will come to my end; but I also know it will not be stopped, nor can it be stopped before christianity fades away and your bible becomes a collector item in antique shops.

GGpap

TheFederalist
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TheFederalist 08/29/10 - 09:16 pm
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Here we go again! Yes indeed,

Here we go again!
Yes indeed, once we get beyond the wall of rhetoric, the gloves come off, and it really all comes down to a very well founded fear and mistrust of a world conquest theocracy, or cult, that is ultimately incompatible with others.

On the other side are those that are filled with anti-Christian bias, who believe any religion is just fine, or none at all, as long as it is not the evil Christian faith.

Sadly folks, this issue, IMHO, will grow ever larger in the years to come, as we deal with the same issue that Europe is struggling with even now. 
The slow and insidious institution, over time, of sharia law.

Get ready folks, as this rodeo is only now beginning, and will most likely never be settled with dialogue.....never has in the last 1500 years....never will.

So crates
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So crates 08/29/10 - 09:45 pm
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Still Matt, let's be honest:

Still Matt, let's be honest: all religious people are completely nuts and should be medicated. Who care's which group we start with? Once we set the example, hopefully it will become abundantly evident to all practioners: they are simply delusional and we should not be forced to tolerate their madness.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 10:27 pm
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Christians were warned that

Christians were warned that this time would come. WE are prepared. Swing away....

JusticeForEva
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JusticeForEva 08/29/10 - 11:05 pm
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Let me give you a very easy

Let me give you a very easy to way to remember what the founding fathers intended...

THE USA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT’S A NATION WHERE YOU’RE FREE TO BE A CHRISTIAN...and a Muslim and a Mormon and an atheist and gay and a Republican etc. You're entitled to all of these things as long as you aren't treading on the rights and property of others. Its really just that simple.

Did the founding fathers use the “"general principles of Christianity” and the Bible to guide them when they wrote our founding documents? Absolutely they did... They also used writings from the Enlightenment (a very secular movement) and other sources as well.

There is a movement on the right that is very intent on turning our (mostly) free country into a Saudi Arabia style theocracy. They want to make their favorite Bible verses and personal morals everyone elses business…that is NOT what our founding fathers intended.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 11:10 pm
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Another person who thinks he

Another person who thinks he knows the intentions of our forefathers.
Your assumption is simply that, yours!

JusticeForEva
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JusticeForEva 08/29/10 - 11:15 pm
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You Bible thumpers are just

You Bible thumpers are just upset because any educated fool can see what the founding fathers intended. You're just mad they didn't leave a clause that said "Bible thumpers shall rule this country" somewhere in the Constitution.

JusticeForEva
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JusticeForEva 08/29/10 - 11:40 pm
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I find it funny that some of

I find it funny that some of you are all up in arms about Sharia Law, but you want to inject the laws of the Bible into the country and force everyone to live by all of them. How is that any different?

You say Sharia Law is horrible and blah blah blah, well I say some of the Old Testament biblical law and punishment is horrible and a hell of a lot of laws in this country on the local, state and federal level are already inspired by Christian law that I don't agree with at all. We don't need more! Religion, period, needs to stay out of government as the Founders had envisioned.

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animate 08/30/10 - 06:46 am
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It's wrong, all things

It's wrong, all things considered, of all the places to build, they choose a site that close to the towers. Come on, we're not getting that deep into all religions, the lines are becoming blurred. I can't believe an American would back this slap in the face by hiding behind religious beliefs of extremists. Do you hear that? It's their laughter, get real, idiot.

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butler123 08/30/10 - 08:59 am
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I think they should go ahead

I think they should go ahead and let them spend all their money to put it there. My bet is that it won't be there long. They better insure the heck out of it.

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 08/30/10 - 11:03 am
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The "right" to build a

The "right" to build a mosque/"community center" where they want can be and should be controlled by local zoning laws; NYC had only to declare the currently existing building on that site as an historic one (and the fact that it was hit by debris from the attack should justify that) in order to have avoided this whole controversy. Zoning laws are used all the time to deny places of worship and other buildings in certain areas - THAT was the simple solution. If you actually believe that the Imam is trying to "build a bridge" you probably should buy a piece of property under the water near the Clark's Hill dam. NOWHERE does the constitution of the United States give ANY group the right to build a place of worship or religious activity any place they want - the constitution guarantees that congress cannot pass a law creating any religion as a national religion, that's it plain and simple. To those who are hell bent on bending the constitution to include building this mosque two blocks away from ground zero, you need to go back and read again the portion you are wrongly interpreting. By the way, good grammar, good spelling should rein supreme here but several posters obviously don't have that skill - spell check is available on most computers and it often makes it difficult to understand what you are trying to say when it is so poorly expressed and words are misspelled so badly as to be unrecognizable. The Muslim world will always point to the proposed mosque as their having been victorious not only by killing 3,000 innocent people on 9/11/2001 but also then claiming that territory as their own - anyone who believes otherwise is naive. The Muslim population is increasing exponentially in this country - their birth rate outstrips all others and by the virtue of that very thing can take over this country and install their own kind of law in a few years. By electing a man who had no experience at anything, a man who was reared and taught in Muslim schools, a man who has bent over backward to apologize to the Muslim world for the successful 230+ year existence of our country, we have put everyone here in peril. I'm astounded daily at his arrogance and lack of connection to the people of this country. Yet, we have those who think it is all about "religious freedom" to allow a mosque to be built within two blocks of that awful reminder of what radical Muslims did on that day - someone here has already wondered why the Muslims in this country were not in an uproar but as of today they have been mostly strangely silent about it and our current regime in Washington can't find a way to even bring people to trial who are accused. We're in a mess and putting that mosque where the Imam wants to build it WILL build a bridge - a bridge to more hate and more lack of understanding between Muslims and Christians. Christians are infidels according to a religion based on an individual who is long dead and taught that infidels must be wiped off the face of the earth. The Augusta Chronicle was correct in its assessments this time.

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 08/30/10 - 11:05 am
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Oops and in my sentence

Oops and in my sentence regarding good grammar & spelling my "rein" should be "reign"...

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 08/30/10 - 11:12 am
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"THE USA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN

"THE USA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT’S A NATION WHERE YOU’RE FREE TO BE A CHRISTIAN"...and a Muslim . . .you're only partially right in that assessment - the founding fathers set up our entire structure on Judaeo-Christian laws and never consider Islam as a threat to the freedom established under our constitution - a limited freedom at that. You and the person currently occupying the White House as president won't change the facts of history - your opinions are just that, not based on those who set up our founding documents. Although they were not perfect men, they certainly did their best under the time and circumstances to insure that we could operate in freedom, basically as separate states, with no strong overwhelming federal government, yet we have allowed that to happen. The president really had no reason to weigh in with an opinion on the placement of this mosque but once again he launched his opinion toward the Muslims desire to have that parcel of land as conquered territory, too.

Techfan
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Techfan 08/30/10 - 03:00 pm
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Sorry fed, i don't get viral

Sorry fed, i don't get viral emails. If they aren't from someone I know, or even then if they start with the usual, "you have to read, you won't believe this, etc" they get zapped. I prefer to do my own research from a number of sources.

DaveMustaineRules
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DaveMustaineRules 08/30/10 - 07:28 pm
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Sorry palmetto, but southern

Sorry palmetto, but southern Baptione don't advocate stoning women, killing little girls for going to school, or detonating bombs in crowded markets. Those actions are what every Imam preaches every day of the week.

mjb266
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mjb266 09/06/10 - 04:05 pm
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Actually the radical

Actually the radical Christians here in this country are responsible for their fair share of terrorist attacks too since 1982.

17 OB-GYNs killed by radical Christians since that time.

Hundreds of OB-GYN clinics blown up.

Roeder did NOT act alone, as I mentioned in my June 6, 2009 letter. He had help from all of his radical Christian friends such as DeMint and the right wing media.

mjb266
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mjb266 09/06/10 - 04:08 pm
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Actually, you are wrong

Actually, you are wrong DaveMustaineRules. Radical Christians do condone all of that.

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