Benighted protesters misled on mosque

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There is much ado about building a Muslim community center two blocks from Ground Zero.

My question would be, "Would 729 miles be far enough?" That is how far Lilburn, Ga., is from New York City, where local residents are protesting the expansion of a mosque.

Is 733 miles far enough? That is where Sheboygan, Wis., is located, and where Christian ministers are leading the fight against converting a health food store into a mosque.

Would 754 miles be far enough away? That is how far Murfreesboro, Tenn., is from New York City, where Tea Party candidates and leaders are protesting a mosque.

Is 895 miles is far enough? Nope. That is the distance of Gainesville, Fla., where a Christian group known as Dove World Outreach Center joined with Westboro Baptist is leading the protest against a mosque with T-shirts and signs claiming "Islam is of the devil" and "Bloody Obama."

How about 2,409 miles? That is the location of Temecula, Calif., where the Tea Party Express is leading the protest against expansion of a mosque.

There is a common denominator in all of this, and it has nothing to do with the location of the World Trade Center. It is narrow-minded conservative Christians once again being led around by their ignorance and fear by such organizations as the Tea Party and Fox News hoping to capitalize politically for conservatives by using simple-minded, emotional, push-button issues.

Michael Ledo

Windsor, S.C.

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GGpap
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GGpap 08/29/10 - 01:26 am
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Michael, thank you for your

Michael, thank you for your informative post. Good job, sir.

As to your question, it is obviously unanswerable, and that saddens me, since it could mean that there are no real, honest-to-gosh true Americans left in the good OLD U.S.A.

GGpap

HTN007
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HTN007 08/29/10 - 02:45 am
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The best way to answer this

The best way to answer this question is to look at the bottom line, i.e. follow the money trial to the 100 million needed to build it. And, if that leads to mid-east terrorist affiliated sources, the answer is the planet mars.....build it on mars so it will not be close enough to rub salt in the wounds, as funding from such sources would suggest, of the families of those who were murdered on 9/11!

bettyboop
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bettyboop 08/29/10 - 02:57 am
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The Tea Party is scaring a

The Tea Party is scaring a lot of folks .....gotta love it!

bettyboop
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bettyboop 08/29/10 - 05:02 am
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"The Iranian woman awaiting

"The Iranian woman awaiting possible execution by stoning was denied visits from her family and attorney this week, just days after her lawyer's home was ransacked and searched.

Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's two children were turned away Thursday during visitation hours, her son, Sajjad Ghaderzadeh, told CNN Friday.

"They told me, 'Your mother doesn't want to see you,' and they wouldn't let me in," he said.

But later that night he received a call from his mother.

"The guards had told her, 'Your children didn't visit you today, they want nothing to do with you,'" Ghaderzadeh said.

Ashtiani's children have visited her every Thursday afternoon since she was convicted of adultery in 2006."..................................................muslim tolerance

csrareader
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csrareader 08/29/10 - 04:39 am
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Michael, you are unable to

Michael, you are unable to grasp that New York City was not attacked on September 11, 2001. The United States of America, and ALL of our citizens were attacked. The killers wanted to destroy our democracy, our freedom, and ultimately, our Nation. Those that still remember that horrific day, and we are becoming a dwindling number, have not forgotten the pain -- no matter WHERE we live. So yes, there are people throughout this great Nation who protest and will continue to protest. I proudly count myself among that number.

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wbbh 08/29/10 - 05:47 am
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America expects assimilation,

America expects assimilation, islamic centers promote just the opposite. It has nothing to do with religious freedom.

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johnston.cliff 08/29/10 - 06:15 am
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Liberals have always been

Liberals have always been against a United States. They have always promoted "diversity", which is to say division. Now the liberal left is supporting a fringe religion that is against everything the left stands for, except diversity.

Micheal Ledo, you're wrong on your assumptions about the celebratory mosque, how wrong are you about the mosque protests? Are you missing something there also?

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soldout 08/29/10 - 06:47 am
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Get yourself informed on the

Get yourself informed on the muslin religion and their teaching and it won't seem like a religion to most. Those who claim to be peaceful are quick to support those who are not and never denounce them.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 08/29/10 - 07:16 am
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I guess Pearl Harbor was a

I guess Pearl Harbor was a local issue. Roosevelt and the rest of the US should have just stayed out of it..............right?

Ledo is frequently wrong...he's the one who actually said that Bill Clinton was a better man than Jesus....all he wants to do is stir people up. He even went out of his way to show up at a gathering on the National Day of Prayer just so he could tell them he was offended by having prayer........if he was truly offended, he wouldn't have gone........he just wanted to cause a stink.

I find it a bit hard to believe that someone who truly cares about someone's religious freedom would do his best to stop them from having prayer on their own UNPAID lunch period. This is typical behavior of the left.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 07:43 am
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Some times we feel like a

Some times we feel like a nut, sometimes we don't.....

crackerjack
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crackerjack 08/29/10 - 09:16 am
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Tigger.....yeah I forgot that

Tigger.....yeah I forgot that he is an anti-Christian bigot that stated Clinton is a better man than Jesus. Thanks for remembering for me. I have always been amazed that less than one percent of the population has been able to derail the beliefs and direction that our forefathers had envisioned and this country was founded on, and the liberals allow them to dictate against the majority. Instead of trying to be P.C., I believe those people need to move to Venezuela where Chavez will embrace him.

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Rolling Eyes 08/29/10 - 10:02 am
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Many mosques have been built

Many mosques have been built all over the country since 9-11 and some of them are in the New York area. None of THEM have been protested anywhere in this country, so what makes THIS one special? Different? Most people already know the reason. Building a mosque of this size and proximity to the place where followers of this religion played out the most deadly act on American soil is quite understandably offensive to most those who love this country and what it stands for.

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JRE 08/29/10 - 10:07 am
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Excellent letter and facts.

Excellent letter and facts. Unfortunately as with most of the discussions in the media the true facts are ignored and distorted. The issue of religious rights and doing what is right is twisted to suit the groups political leanings.

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dichotomy 08/29/10 - 10:12 am
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People who are protesting the

People who are protesting the mosques are not un-American. They are not anti-religious freedom. In the past few years they have been made aware of shariah, "the way", "the path" and that shariah is a fundamental part of the muslim religion. Religious freedom is the American way, and it is the law, BUT shariah is, by it's very nature, un-American and violates the rights of women, and the protection of our judicial system. Yes, we have a conundrum but it is not an un-American conundrum. I don't think the people protesting mosques are un-American and I certainly don't think they are paranoid Christians. I think they are offended and concerned. I think they are venting their anger against a religion they perceive as having attacked and killed 3000 people on American soil and I think they are concerned about something using the cloak of a religion which wants to implement shariah law in this country. Maybe that is a little paranoid but I'm not sure. Do I think all muslims are radical killers? No. Do I think all muslims might dream of the day they are a majority and would implement shariah law? Yes. Do I like seeing mosques built and the population of muslims growing exponentially? No. Does our Constitution protect them as a religion? Yes. Will the SCOTUS eventually rule that muslims can worship as they wish but cannot practice any part of their religion that violates individual constitutional rights? I don't know. I guess it will depend on the makeup of SCOTUS. Who are you voting for as president and senator for the next 30 or 40 years? They will determine the status of shariah when the question hits the court system.

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Lou Stewall 08/29/10 - 11:05 am
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People realize the right of

People realize the right of Muslims to build the Ground Zero Mosque, they just think it is rubbing salt in our wounds. For 1300 years Muslims have destroyed Christian churches by turning them into barns or mosques. Their brutal expansion is not recorded because no one survived to tell the story. Muslim violence, which is 95% of the world's violence, is masked by words like "ethnic" or "rebels" and you are a deluded "useful idiot" I'm sure you take offense a Nativity scenes and crosses. You support gay marriage, women's rights, freedom from enslavement, population control and freedom of the press and religion? They don't.

They will separate women from men in that mosque. They will not let them swim together. They will banish homosexuals. They are populating faster than any other religion due to polygamy and banning birth control. They take slaves, molest boys, lie to infidels and beat women. Every word of this is true. Why do you support them? Salmon Rushdie got it right, it is a Satanic religion.

Ted Kennedy changed our immigration laws to encourage third world immigrants and discourage educated Western people. That is why all the Muslims have been allowed to come here, while foreign college graduates are sent back to their countries. We must overturn these policies!

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55 F-100 08/29/10 - 11:48 am
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There are at least 100

There are at least 100 mosques in New York City presently. The location chosen for this mosque is absolutely a monument to the conquest over the infidels, i.e. the destruction of the twin towers. Let the mosque be built, but no way, not today, or ever at this particular location. Not all muslims are terrorists........but all terrorists are muslims.

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faithson 08/29/10 - 12:26 pm
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Nationalism as a religion,

Nationalism as a religion, pure and simple. Reminds me of how the Baptists spoke about Catholics not to long ago. I really mean not to long ago.

faithson
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faithson 08/29/10 - 12:31 pm
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And these Baptists were

And these Baptists were genuinely good people. Just hammered from the pulpit by a theology that used fear as a tool to inculcate its members.

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faithson 08/29/10 - 12:36 pm
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I have always said; this new

I have always said; this new fearmongering by media pundits plays well to those who have spent many a Sunday morning listening to the same dirge. ( a song or tune expressing grief, lamentation, and mourning.)

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corgimom 08/29/10 - 01:48 pm
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If I bought property and

If I bought property and wanted to build a church, and it was legal, nothing would stop me. Because you either believe in the Constitution and equal protection under the law, or you don't.

Denying the mosque is just what the crazy terrorist Muslims want- so that they can say that we don't really believe in religious tolerance. And that would be true.

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Tigger_The_Tiger 08/29/10 - 02:14 pm
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corgi............zoning laws

corgi............zoning laws could stop you.

And again with the red herring...NO ONE is saying they don't have the right to build there....just that it is wildly insensitive.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 03:12 pm
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There are good messages in

There are good messages in the Islamic religion as in all religions. No gays, no entitlements, women have no rights (oops), etc. - then they go and teach that if you are anything but a Muslim you can't have your virgins. Of course only Muslim men meet the approval of Allah.

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Tigger_The_Tiger 08/29/10 - 03:15 pm
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dani...what if they got it

dani...what if they got it slightly wrong and the get 72 Virginians when they get to heaven? Washington, Jefferson, etc.....I'm sure they will be welcomed.

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papersonja 08/29/10 - 04:04 pm
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Which is scarier the Tea

Which is scarier the Tea Party or Islam? It depends on ones educational sources...those of Mankind or those of God. I know which of the two sources I trust to be the truth, and the truth is not scary. I am afraid of those who chose to be ignorant and remain misguided by ideas of men.

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DaveMustaineRules 08/29/10 - 04:23 pm
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Any mosque located on US soil

Any mosque located on US soil is a threat. Americans need to wake up and realize there are no "moderate" muslims.

DaveMustaineRules
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DaveMustaineRules 08/29/10 - 04:23 pm
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Any mosque located on US soil

Any mosque located on US soil is a threat. Americans need to wake up and realize there are no "moderate" muslims.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 04:48 pm
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papersonia...The Tea Party of

papersonia...The Tea Party of course. Be afraid, be very afraid. Especially in November when we go to the polls.

dani
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dani 08/29/10 - 04:53 pm
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In this world with its mad

In this world with its mad schemes of destruction
Of our country fair and our sweet liberty
By the mad dictators leaders of corruption
Can't the US use a southern boy like me
God gave me the right to be a free American
And for that precious right I'd gladly die
There's a star spangled banner waving somewhere
That is where I want to live when I die

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 08/29/10 - 05:47 pm
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Hmmmm..which is scarier...a

Hmmmm..which is scarier...a group that wants freedom for all people, or a group that wants to kill everyone who is not a muslim? Good question, papersonia.

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chascush 08/29/10 - 07:35 pm
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Lou, ‘Their brutal expansion

Lou, ‘Their brutal expansion is not recorded because no one survived to tell the story. Muslim violence, which is 95% of the world's violence, is masked by words like "ethnic" or "rebels" and you are a deluded "useful idiot" I'm sure you take offense a Nativity scenes and crosses.’
Very well said I hope some of the idiots in this country wakeup before it is too late. This not about politics it is about survival of this country.

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