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Do you believe Bible's every word?

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Seeing as the only letters to the editor to be printed lately have to do with Christianity and the Bible, I figured that was my best chance to be published.

In reading the online comments, I find these Christians say the Bible is the absolute word of God and to be taken literally. These same Christians keep bringing up the verse in Leviticus that says homosexuality is an abomination to God. They say the Bible is the utmost truth, and every sentence was breathed by the Almighty.

That being said, how can these same Christians overlook the fact that God also says eating pork and shellfish is an abomination? I won't even get into God's thoughts on slavery and the number of wives a man can have. One of the commandments even says that no work is to be done on the Sabbath.

How can a Christian quote the Bible on a certain subject saying it is a sin, and to repent, when other passages are completely overlooked?

I find this very interesting.

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RAINBOW
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RAINBOW 08/08/10 - 05:58 pm
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dont you think it was Gods

dont you think it was Gods work to perserve the Bible down through the generations? His hand was in the writing of the Bible,and you have to remember these were not just meer men they walked with jesus and were led by the Holy Spirit in the writing of the Bible

RAINBOW
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RAINBOW 08/08/10 - 06:02 pm
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when you read the Old

when you read the Old Testament how many prophieses do you find fulfilled in the New testament?now dont yu think it was just more than mortal man that wrote the Old Testament?thier prophises were written many many years before Christ was born? how do you think they could have known those things,if they were not led by the spirit to write tham.

disssman
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disssman 08/08/10 - 08:25 pm
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ICL. I still would like to

ICL. I still would like to know where NOD is. Why is the boble so secretive of that place, and yet it plays an important part in creationalism. Further, if all christians purport to follow Jesus, why aren't they of the same religion he was? Wouldn't that be a sin if a person didn't follow the son of God. As to assembly of the bible, we really don't have a clue who actually wrote the 300 year old books, but we do know it wasn't a poor person who walked with christ, because a scribe was a high official at the time, and the cost of materials was probably out of sight. Just lots of questions.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 08/08/10 - 09:08 pm
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disssman, Nod comes from the

disssman, Nod comes from the Hebrew word meaning "wandering". It is said to be east of Eden. I don't feel the bible is secretive of that place. Evidently it wasn't an important place and all we know is that Cain was banished there because of killing his brother. You asked why we aren't the same religion as Jesus. It's not about religion, it's about relationship and we are to follow Christ, not a religion. As for the bible, you might now know or might not believe, or you probably couldn't care less, but the bible was written by men through the inspiration of God. All the apostles who walked with Christ were poor materially but rich spiritually. They left family, home, occupations, everything and followed Christ throughout his ministry and even after his death and resurrection.

RAINBOW
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RAINBOW 08/08/10 - 09:14 pm
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In Is.7:14this prophecy was

In Is.7:14this prophecy was fulfilled in LUKE 1: 26,27,30,31,how could he have known about Jesus if they Holy Spirit was not guiding him to write this? So see not just mere men, but men of God.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 08/08/10 - 09:14 pm
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JusticeforEva, what you fail

JusticeforEva, what you fail to understand is that even though men wrote the bible the words they wrote were inspired by God and the bible has been translated into many languages so individuals around the world and from different cultures may understand His Word. A God that created the universe, healed the sick and rose people from the dead, I think he can handle making sure His Word is translated properly. As for the books that the Catholic church does not include in the Bible, only those writings that could be authenticated as being inspired by God were included in the Bible canon. Please do some research instead of spouting off nonsense about something you evidently do not know anything about. If you don't believe that the Bible is truth and inspired by God (written by the hands of men) then don't believe it. That's okay, but that doesn't mean the Bible isn't the true Word of God.

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 08/08/10 - 09:44 pm
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Christians are commanded by

Christians are commanded by God to live a life worthy of Him. As far as non-Christians goes....we are to show God's love for them, not condemn or judge them. That is God's job. Let God do His job and let's do the important job He gave us to do.....love.

RAINBOW
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RAINBOW 08/08/10 - 10:10 pm
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when yo follow Christ you

when yo follow Christ you follow the religion Him and the diciples spoke and wrote

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Sargebaby 08/08/10 - 10:29 pm
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Mr. Glover, if you want your

Mr. Glover, if you want your questions answered properly, take a Bible study course, and learn about the Bible, as well as how to read it. Every question you asked can be revealed to you if you will take this challenge. At one time, I thought I was a fair expert on the scriptures, but like most people, I only read them, and did not research their meanings or why, and how they came about.

One of my favorite sayings is, if people didn't learn how to study and read the Bible, there would be millions of toothless and blind people walking around. Taking the Bible literally, without understanding the original purposes of the scriptures, is why there are so many different denominations. People subvert the intentions found in the Bible and develop Religions out of it. A prime example would be Muhammad. He used the Bible as a basis to develop the Qur'an, but in the process violated Revelation 22:18-19 (New King James Version)

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;

19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Muhammad added his own edicts and is not the only one to do this. Others are still doing it. Take the course and become enlightened!

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Michael Siewert 08/09/10 - 12:36 am
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John, well, NO ONE answered

John, well, NO ONE answered your questions! I didn't expect them to. The Christians come out and continue their "blah, blah, blah". The truth is, MOST "Christians" absolutely pick and choose what fits their agendas best. A true Christian would not judge others so harshly. It seems the Bible gives a lot of stupid people a little too much power....but absolutely no common sense!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 08/09/10 - 06:16 am
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Michael Siewert, were you

Michael Siewert, were you involved in the private email I sent John? Do you know what I discussed with him? No...so how can you say no one answered his questions. I'd also like for you to explain your comment, "A true Christian would not judge others so harshly". I do not see anyone judging John on here and if you are referring to my comment to JusticeforEva. I guess I should have said "Get behind thee Satan" because that is exactly what this poster is doing...doing Satan's bidding, along with others on here. They don't know anything about the Bible except for a few references and want to spout all this hateful untruths and appear as though they know what they are talking about. My statement may have come across more harsh than intended but that's what happens when you write...words on paper don't show emotion and to be honest there wasn't any anger in my post, just frustration.

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Willow Bailey 08/09/10 - 08:04 am
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ICL, Praise God for John's

ICL, Praise God for John's interest in pursuing Christ and thank you for all that you are sharing. I am particularly fond of, "Get thee behind me Satan!", for that is exactly how I have felt when confronted with such hostility towards the things of the Lord. To those that see this again as judgment, it is not. It is passion for the Love of Jesus and the Cross. Who can sit quietly while their own beloved Father is denigrated!

I find it interesting that so many want to argue about God and the Bible, but none of them will come out and say exactly what it is they worship. God created us for worship and relationship with Him. Everyone worships something or someone. It may be themselves, other people, their material possessions, their entertainment, addictions, bank account, etc. But absolutely nothing satisfies apart from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

God has said that we are all made in his image. Every human being is acceptable, lovable, and valuable. He created us, we are his perfect design. He is God and He doesn't need any of us, but, He sure makes it clear that He wants us.

What an encouragement we have in Christ and His Word. Everything we need to know about right living, times of trouble, dealing with others, family, marriage, developing a relationship with Him, our life's purpose, and securing our future is right at our fingertips. Nothing else written compares with it. Sometimes, I feel like this is a useless battlefront, and then I remember, that God says, His Word never returns void.

Keep on sharing, you make a difference in my life and many others.

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Willow Bailey 08/09/10 - 08:17 am
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John G., You can't do this

John G., You can't do this alone. Get in touch with Pastor Dan White. He can be of great help to you and connect you to another person that will be very beneficial. You will be so glad that you did. I am so proud of your courage and honesty.

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InChristLove 08/09/10 - 08:49 am
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Willow Bailey, thanks for

Willow Bailey, thanks for your words of incouragement. Sometimes it seems we are only back-peddling but as the Lord said "His Word never returns void".

John is moving in the right direction and just remember him in your prayers.

For anyone interested, there is a revival going on at Windsor Spring Baptist Church through Wednesday night with an amazing speaker, Pastor Kenny Grant. We are a multi-cultural church so don't worry about fitting in, all are welcomed. Starts at 7pm every night and if you want to hear the truth preached, he's the man that does it. We are very causal so if you want to come in jeans that's fine...just come ready to laugh, get your toes stepped on (not literally), hear some good music, and worship and praise our God.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 08/09/10 - 08:50 am
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Sorry, guess I should have

Sorry, guess I should have told you where it's located....at the corner of Windsor Spring Rd and Tobacco Rd. Across from the Rite-Aid and the Popeye's Restaurant.

swinter05
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swinter05 08/09/10 - 09:11 am
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As I hear in the news this

As I hear in the news this morning that 10 Christians were killed in Afghanistan, simply because they were showing God's love through little acts of kindness, I am reminded that we are up against a spiritual battle like never before. The team was headed by a dentist and they were simply there to hand out toothbrushes to the children and to just show love in the name of Jesus. There is no sweeter name and He is a cause worth dying for. I pray that God will continue to use those that know you Lord, to share the good news found in your son Jesus Christ. Lord we all have struggles and you know each and every one of them. Bless Mr. Glover as he has made the first step by humbling himself and allowing the Holy Spirit to take over. I pray for any others that may be questioning you and all that you have to offer. You have called us to worship you and to just simply have faith. I pray that you soften hearts and all who are weak and weary, that do not know you personally, will come to you and ask forgiveness and ask to have You in their lives, so they may live life abundantly. In Jesus name I pray...Amen. I hope everyone has a wonderful day on this glorious Monday.

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baronvonreich 08/09/10 - 10:56 am
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Pastor Dan White Sunday, Aug.

Pastor Dan White Sunday, Aug. 8 4:45 PM
He is entrapped by reason, logic
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Why yes Pastor Dan I am. You should try reason and logic sometime. You won't sound so foolish much of the time.

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baronvonreich 08/09/10 - 10:59 am
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swinter - thousands of

swinter - thousands of innocent Muslims have also been killed in the U.S.'s war of aggression in Afghanistan. So what is your point? Why don't you psuedo-Christians implore the self-identified Christian president and the self-identified Christian 530+ members of Congress to stop these wars of aggression?

momster59
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momster59 08/09/10 - 11:04 am
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baron - correction: tens of

baron - correction: tens of thousands of innocent, noncombatant Muslims, a great number of which are women, children and elderly.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 08/09/10 - 11:23 am
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And do they not have their

And do they not have their own countrymen to thank for it?

swinter05
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swinter05 08/09/10 - 11:58 am
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Baron and mom- It seems as

Baron and mom- It seems as though you are seeking an answer so, as always, the only source with all your answers (whether you understand them or choose to believe them or not) is the BIBLE. Here is what God says about war:

Question: "What does the Bible say about war?"

Answer: Many people make the mistake of reading what the Bible says in Exodus 20:13, “You shall not kill,” and then seeking to apply this command to war. However, the Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice; murder.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12, 15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11). So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but only murder. War is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a necessary thing. In a world filled with sinful people (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Sometimes the only way to keep sinful people from doing great harm to the innocent is by going to war.

In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to “take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). Deuteronomy 20:16-17 declares, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them…as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Also, 1 Samuel 15:18 says, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.” Obviously God is not against all war. Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).

Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).

It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?

War is a terrible thing. Some wars are more “just” than others, but war is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). At the same time, Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, “There is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17). The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to conflicts, and praying for a minimum of casualties among civilians on both sides (Philippians 4:6-7).

http://www.gotquestions.org/war-Bible.html

swinter05
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swinter05 08/09/10 - 12:04 pm
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Willow- I'm not sure why such

Willow- I'm not sure why such the ungratefulness? Hardened hearts will soften when there is an extreme crisis. It happens all the time. When there is no one else to turn to and everything else is hopeless...He will be the only one to cry out to....and amazingly, the only one that will listen. I just pray that people realize now is THE time to come forward and surrender their lives over to Jesus. He will make them complete and whole. It's sad, and it's not meant for me to understand completely. The day of complete understanding will soon be here for us.

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corgimom 08/09/10 - 12:27 pm
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"Believe it or not, some

"Believe it or not, some Christians neither work on the Sabbath nor eat pork and shellfish."

How do you consider yourself a Christian and still believe that you are bound by those Old Testament laws- because one of the major themes of Christianity is that when Jesus died, there was a new covenant with his people and the old laws did not apply?

Do those same Christians make human sacrifices, like they did in the Old Testament?

Oh, and to the poster who wrote that abortion is a sin- during Old Testament days, it was permissable until the baby "quickened"- the mother felt it move- which is usually about halfway through the pregnancy.

But don't let a little inconsistency stop anybody.

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corgimom 08/09/10 - 12:36 pm
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"The team was headed by a

"The team was headed by a dentist and they were simply there to hand out toothbrushes to the children and to just show love in the name of Jesus."

1. Anybody that goes to a country that is at war understands the risk that they are taking. That is especially true when America is AT WAR with that country.

2. Afghanistan is a Muslim country, and those Muslim countries don't particularly care for American Christians coming to their country.

3. The rights that we, as Americans enjoy in having freedom of religion do not apply in foreign countries.

4. Did those people really think that things were going to be just hunky-dory and that nothing bad would happen to them?

5. Anybody who would go to a war zone "to hand out toothbrushes" is downright foolish.

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follower 08/09/10 - 12:53 pm
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Corgi, you and I both know

Corgi, you and I both know they didn't go to just "hand out toothbrushes". No missionary goes to another country without weighing the risk. Giving your life to a purpose is fulfilling. Dying in the pursuit of that purpose is noble, unless of course, you don't subscribe to the thought of higher reward from the pursuit of that purpose. They obviously thought the risk worth the reward.
Before someone reverses the logic to the Muslim that is seeking their reward, the pursuit of the missionaries was to give life, not to take it.
Offering needed assistance to those suffering, or demanding conversion at the point of a sword? The difference is very clear.

swinter05
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swinter05 08/09/10 - 12:59 pm
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Corigmom- you are apparently

Corigmom- you are apparently misunderstanding. I didn't post my comment for....

1. you to respond to. As evident in your response and lack of understanding, I'm not going to entertain your lack of knowledge.
2. YES...they certainly did know that was a possibility. Believers do not let fear or intimidation overcome what they know the will of God is for their lives. When Jesus calls us to serve Him, we can not be self-absorbed. We must obey Him and we will be richly blessed. What better time to meet our maker, than during a time when we were honoring Him!
3. you need to read my post about what the bible says about war
4. they weren't JUST handing out toothbrushes....it was one of many acts of kindness they were there to show...all in Jesus' name
5. the irony of it all, those 10 are far more at peace and joyful, than any of us on this earth will be as long as we are alive in our flesh.

For future negative posters, when I post a comment that touches my heart personally, I don't care to have a bunch of negative reponses.....if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it all (I know you've heard of that saying). My post was to simply lift up a prayer....that doesn't require a response. God will respond to my prayer. Thanks in advance and I appreciate the respect.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 08/09/10 - 01:27 pm
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swinter, thank you for your

swinter, thank you for your work in sharing God's Word and in particular about the violence at the end of this world. It will not be pretty, will it. As hard as it is to face it, better now, than later.

And yes, you are so right; everyone has their level of pain and what it will take to wake them up is different from another. For some, it is a simple longing to fill an emptiness, for others it takes losing everything and bottoming out. It is no different than with any other addiction/idol. If Christ is not our center, we medicate ourselves with the things of an godly world. Whether it is a religion, work, education, money, people or drugs and alcohol.. it makes no difference. And the things we seek to fill us, only destroy us in the end. It certainly takes God to see this, but it is so helpful when others bring some awareness on these matters. My prayer is that it will happen for them before it is too late.

If we are not interested in the things of God, we can cook up any number of charges to discredit it; just as was done in Jesus' time on earth by the non-believers. The resources are there, the key is, if we want them.

It is a search, if not a complete struggle to come to any kind of understanding; thus as Jesus said is our need to come as little children with complete faith in our heavenly Father. Jesus also spoke about His feelings toward those who blocked the children to His Word.

One non-believer posted, they were not a Christian, however spiritual, and they had read the Bible in its entirety and had complete understanding of it. Anyone who says they have complete understanding of the Bible, shows they have no understanding at all. God's own Word says that, "His ways are higher than ours"... and we will not have complete understanding until we are resurrected with Him." (paraphrased)

One of the scriptures that has helped me so much as I have struggled to make sense of it all, is......... "Lord, I believe, but help thouest me in my disbelief." Mark 9:24 In other words, strengthen my faith, God, only you can do it!

I do enjoy the various debates among believers regarding scriptures, but only if we agree on the foundation of Jesus Christ. To me that is inarguable. I enjoy that shared truth with some of the posters here, like yourself, ICL, fiat, Dan White, Scoop, and some others that I am getting to know through their postings.

Isn't it comforting to know that whether we are for Him or go against Him, God is sovereign and in control. Nothing said or done can change the reality of what was, what is, and what lies ahead. All things will be used by Him; the believers and the non-believers will be used to accomplish HIS purpose. There are many verses to attest to this; this is just one of my favorites. "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

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tmimbs 08/09/10 - 01:31 pm
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Corgimom, the following are

Corgimom, the following are your words, pasted directly to this post:

Do those same Christians make human sacrifices, like they did in the Old Testament?

Oh, and to the poster who wrote that abortion is a sin- during Old Testament days, it was permissable until the baby "quickened"- the mother felt it move- which is usually about halfway through the pregnancy.

But don't let a little inconsistency stop anybody

Like many I have seen on here, you seem to revel in lobbing grenades and citing no chapter and verse and no supporting documentation. What you are really saying is this is what "I THINK the Bible says".

With all due respect, tell us who "they" were in the Old Testamant who made human sacrifices and exactly which book you found that in. While you are at it, please tell us which book you found your abortion endorsement in. I challenge you to either document your statements or stop making such ridiculous and false statements.

swinter05
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swinter05 08/09/10 - 01:34 pm
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With a thankful heart,

With a thankful heart, Willow, I say, Amen. I know I have been blessed just to be able to talk with other believers on here and to grow in my faith. We can't each do it alone, but with Jesus, "all things are possible".

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 08/09/10 - 01:39 pm
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swinter, thank you for your

swinter, thank you for your prayer and compassion on these people and their families.

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