President Obama inherited this mess

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I just finished reading Spencer G. Fischer's letter "Obama's leadership increases worries" (July 9) and said to myself "Man, things are bad and getting worse every day."

I wonder where he was during the Bush administration, because I don't remember any letters that he might have written to The Chronicle expressing any worry. Let's see what happened during those years that could have caused concern.

First, we invaded a sovereign country that was not a threat to our country; destroyed a beautiful country; lost more than 4,000 of our young men and women (not counting all the severely wounded who came home and must be taken care of the rest of their lives); and thousands of Iraqi citizens who had nothing to do with anything were killed, and countless refugees who have lost their homes and are in other countries.

That's just a starter.

When George W. became president, the national debt was $5 trillion. When he left, it was $12 trillion and climbing, and the Treasury that was full of money when Bill Clinton left was empty. That debt should be a concern for all -- and their children and grandchildren.

Also, the first bailout of Wall Street and the banks of $700 billion came from -- you guessed it: Bush.

Also, who gave BP the go-ahead to drill the deepwater oil well without strict regulation and safety precautions, which has really changed the peoples' lives on the Gulf Coast? It has changed all of our lives, just not as much. Was it the oilmen Bush and Dick Cheney, the Halliburton ex-CEO? By the way. Halliburton was one of the three outfits involved in that drilling.

Things are tough now, and it's going to be a long time before we come out of it. As long as everyone looks at all the facts and the history of how we got to this point, it doesn't bother me. But jumping on a man who inherited a bad situation, I don't think is right or fair. Hopefully he will do a good job, and we can climb out of it.

Jim McGaughy

Aiken, S.C.

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Nativeson1
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Nativeson1 07/14/10 - 09:19 pm
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Well said Jim, well said...

Well said Jim, well said... Here comes the regular whiners and detractors (see below)...

Retard
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Retard 07/14/10 - 10:20 pm
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Not too long ago, an article

Not too long ago, an article was posted that congress decides such things as budget (which is true). So now it's Bush's fault? Give me a break...

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dwb619 07/14/10 - 10:25 pm
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Every thing you said is true,

Every thing you said is true, BUT, this board is fixin to hand you your head.

Chillen
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Chillen 07/14/10 - 10:57 pm
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Fact check time. When Bush

Fact check time.

When Bush took office the debt was 5.674 Trillion. When he left office it was 10.7 Trillion. That's an increase of 4.97 Trillion in 8 years under Bush. Now, this increase is not trivial by any means but hardly the $7 Trillion that Mr. Gaughy suggests.

As of July 14, 2010 the Federal debt is $13.204 Trillion. It has risen $2.504 Trillion dollars in 1 1/2 years under Obama. At this pace the debt will be almost $20 Trillion during his limited 4 years in office.

Under Bush debt was 40% of GDP. Under Obama it is 60% of GDP (after only 1 1/2 years!).

Bush debt increase - about 2/3 Trillion per year in office. Obama debt increase - about $1.7 Trillion per year in office.

Bottom line. Obama needs to go. Pelosi needs to go. Reid needs to go. Rino's need to go. Big government has to go. Bush's big government, Obama's massive, bloated, social justice government. All of it.

Vote in November and send the big spenders into retirement and back to their home states. It's the right thing to do for America.

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willie7 07/14/10 - 10:58 pm
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A great letter Mr.
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A great letter Mr. McGaughy----- I see you haven't fallen for the Republican propaganda like so many people around this area. Although some of the Republicans don't care for them. One of the Republican senators called them the little people, the unwashed, working stiffs and so on. The plan is to create fear among the working class and keep them uninformed.

JM88
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JM88 07/15/10 - 12:23 am
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Let's see...liberals whining

Let's see...liberals whining about how everything is Bush's fault and Obama is pure as driven snow. A conservative shows up and brings factual information to the table showing how Obama has made things exponentially worse. Knee-jerk Obamabots have no logical defense.

Yep, everything looks to be in order here...

lord griggs1947
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lord griggs1947 07/15/10 - 12:26 am
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Jim, indeed! The silly

Jim, indeed! The silly reactionaries argue that Shrub's tax cuts did not add to the federal debt, but even Dr. Mankiw, his economic advisor says that is wrong! So the Cato Institue and other wingnut groups just play with the facts! Mankiw and Mark Zandi, who advised McBush are reputable conservative economists unlike the fringe one Arthur Laffer and before him Mises, Hayek, Rothbard and to an extent, even Friedman. On the left are Paul Krugman, Robert Reich and Dean Baker.
Reactionaries, as usual, rant and-weep! Remember that Pres. Obama has already earned his place amongst the top fifteen!
Amity Schlaes and other wingnuts err so much about what FDR accomplished! Google liberalism resurgent to get real facts about liberal accomplishments that so eviscerate what the right wingnuts rant about!
Yes, I'm a mean liberal!
MSNBC has the best political talk shows,even Scarborough's! Fox has the silliest! The Wreck [ Beck] loves to talk trash!
Willie, like the communists calling the Kulaks parasites, so the unwashed call us receiving government help parasites. So, they are so ignorant about who receives help.
Jim and Natveson and dwb619, yes, they do rant with nescience- ignorance.

iakovos
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iakovos 07/15/10 - 12:46 am
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At last someone with facts,

At last someone with facts, just think people it is what it is.

lsmith
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lsmith 07/15/10 - 03:21 am
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No sense trying to argue with
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No sense trying to argue with this Obama worshiper and the other fawning posters here who can always google a statistic or two to confound us intellectually challenged conservatives. It's 4:30 am and I'm just going to leave without giving this particular posting forum another thought. Have another glass of that kool-aid

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GGpap 07/15/10 - 03:44 am
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Chillen, come back in 6 ½

Chillen, come back in 6 ½ years with your "projected figures" and if you were correct, I'll agree to publish my apology to you on this web site. Until then, keep blowin' smoke on these threads, sulkin' in the dank corners of your cave, and keep fervently praying each day that Obama fails (as all of your other narrow-minded colleagues do).

And, I just can't wait for "Tigger" to come on with his incessant demand that the letter writer come forth with the true facts; y'all know, the "facts" that he's waiting to refute with his own "facts" taken from some far right talking points source that serves as his conservative bible.

GGpap

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Riverman1 07/15/10 - 04:11 am
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Great post, Chillen. It kind

Great post, Chillen. It kind of reminds me of the commercial. "Parts is parts." Well, "facts is facts."

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johnston.cliff 07/15/10 - 04:28 am
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Some of you people need to

Some of you people need to turn your tv sets to something besides PBS. While this gives you a great far left perspective of the world, it oftentimes gives a slanted and confused look at the facts.

The endless excuse "it's Bush's fault" has been trite and old for some time now. Seen the polls lately? Even the fence straddlers are taking sides and the obamassiah isn't able to use either of his favorite excuses for his lack of leadership without appearing as incompetent as he really is.

When Bush came into office, the economy was reacting to all of the Clinton tax increases, the internet bubble had burst and radical Islam had declared war on America. Economically and socially, things were horrible, but Bush stepped up. The economy, even under these horrible restrictions, bounced back and unemployment fell to the lowest level ever while the Dow was at the highest ever. The radical Islamists were getting a lot more than they were used to and even though military secrets were published in the NYTimes on a regular basis and left wing politicians were either broadcasting military plans or stopping funding for military actions on an almost daily effort, the war was progressing well, with the usual number of setbacks and mis-starts. What Bush didn't do was watch his back and he lost the war against the radical left. The radicals took over congress and created a situation they could blame on the president.
VOLIA! Look how much better things are now.

Well, there you have it, McGaughy. An equally narrow point of view that's opposite from the one you're told to have. While my perspective has a lot more verifiable facts than yours, we'll just have to see how the country reacts to this "hope and change" administration and it's two famous excuses.

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csrareader 07/15/10 - 05:07 am
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Mr. McGaughy, check the data

Mr. McGaughy, check the data in the latest CBS News poll. Just 13% believe that Obama's policies have helped turn the economy around. I assume that you are one of them.

"the first bailout of Wall Street and the banks of $700 billion came from -- you guessed it: Bush" Wrong, the Democratically-controlled Congress owns that piece of garbage. Read your constitution.

"we invaded a sovereign country that was not a threat to our country" You have a short memory. Look up the War on Terror in your spare time.

"When George W. became president, the national debt was $5 trillion. When he left, it was $12 trillion and climbing" I assume that you're OK with the way Obama is spending money like a drunken sailor.

"who gave BP the go-ahead to drill the deepwater oil?" Do you own a car? Do you think your car runs on the hot air of liberals such as yourself?

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/15/10 - 05:28 am
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its hard to find any truth in

its hard to find any truth in the LTE. while i agree during the bush years spending did goe up to much it really started to esculate when the dims took hold of congress in 06..spending 04 **2.293 trillion**.06 **2.655 trillion**2.983 trillion in 08***3.721 trillion estimate in 2010...national total debt 2000**5.674***2008**9986..estimated at end of fiscal year of 2010--13.787 trillion..draw your own conclussion. also check out job creation during the bush years and the unemployment numbers..facts are hard to refute..dims forget the dot com bubble burst that lost huge amounts of money b/4 bush took office and of course they fail to remember the attacks of 9/11 that brought our economy to a stand still for months..and check out the irs income tax revenue in the years of bush it slowly and steadly rose after the tax cuts..so called sin taxes are to curb activity why dont you dims see taxes on income also curb activity..

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chascush 07/15/10 - 05:53 am
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Mr. McGaughy, ‘Hopefully he

Mr. McGaughy, ‘Hopefully he will do a good job, and we can climb out of it.’ It is very obvious that he is digging the hole deeper. He is killing small businesses. Just listen to any small business owner why they cut back and will not hire any new people. The reason is the policies of the DUMocrats that are in power.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 07/15/10 - 06:06 am
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Jim, you have a selective
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Jim, you have a selective memory. Consider the fact that OBAMA HAS ADDED TWO TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE before you blame Bush for the mess. Is this "Change we can believe in"? Don't worry, he'll be out in 2012 and you can go back to whining about the Republicans again. You can't now since they control nothing.

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Tigger_The_Tiger 07/15/10 - 06:23 am
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Obama didn't inherit

Obama didn't inherit ANYTHING! He campaigned hard for the job because he promised everyone he could make it better, but so far he has done nothing but make it worse.

Tell us how long before he has to accept responsibility for ANYTHING?

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 07/15/10 - 06:24 am
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"Clearly we will want to

"Clearly we will want to extend the middle
income tax cuts at the very least." --Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) .......You
mean the Bush tax cuts weren't just for the "rich"? Isn't that the
propaganda that the left has been spewing for awhile now? That the tax
cuts were only for the "rich"?

Runner46
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Runner46 07/15/10 - 06:24 am
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True, "President Obama

True, "President Obama inherited this mess," and he made it worse is also true, i.e. the cradle to grave health care tax, paid to private industry.

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 07/15/10 - 06:38 am
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Who cares if he inherited it.

Who cares if he inherited it. He ASKED for it. The problem is that he has done nothing good with it as of yet. Oh I'm sorry, I stand corrected. He bought a snow cone to boost the economy in the Gulf area.

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slippery 25 07/15/10 - 07:14 am
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Jim, Obama's mess was created

Jim, Obama's mess was created by Congress which he was a member. The mess is alot worse due to his lack of leadership but you can save him and the country by voting those out of control Dems out of office this November.

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55 F-100 07/15/10 - 07:43 am
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And he added his own special

And he added his own special marxist touches such as the health deform act (which will be repealed), and he added his muslim touches, and let us not forget his bowing and apology world tour. Now we can look forward to his attempt at "comprehensive immigration reform" and his traitorous puppet, Eric Holder, filing suit against Arizona (which will blow up in his face). Yeah, Prezbojangles has really made great strides in his hope and change........huh? Ummm...Ummm...Ummm...Barrack Insane Obama.

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sojumaster 07/15/10 - 07:44 am
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Wow! I am just curious when

Wow! I am just curious when people are going to stop blaming Bush for today's problems and look at the current administration's decisions that are not doing us any favors. It is the continuous democratic propaganda that keeps on screaming the mantra of “blame GW Bush for all the problems in the world”. While they are distracting us with this mantra they are making decisions that are destroying the country. Let’s look at some of these wonderful decisions that Obama has done:

- He pushed an unnecessary, extremely expensive “stimulus package”
- He broke his promise about wrapping up the war. We are past the 18 month mark now and we are STILL sending more and more troops to Afghanistan. Bush did start it, but Obama has failed to end it. That can only mean that he endorses it.
- He slammed a new health care system down our throats where the vast majority of the Americans did not approve of it. Albiet, the old system was not worth a hill of beans but let’s put a new system in place without a full honest debate.
- Cash for Clunkers program: A failed attempt of the government trying to manipulate a free economy.
- Obama did not cancel the $350 billion remaining in TARP. Bush did start TARP but Obama had/has the power to kill it but refused(s) to do so.
- Transparency? The Health Care debate was not transparent at all except for a couple photo ops towards the very end. Of course whatever happened to the promised five days of public comment before any bill is signed?
- Cap and Trade. He rammed this through despite all the evidence that it isn't necessary and doesn't work. Spain jumped in with both feet and lost its legs. But it fits right in with two of Obama's favorite policies: raising taxes and increasing unemployment.
- He allowed the tax credits for buying a house expire.
- He broke his promise about no tax increases for families that make less than $250K a year. He just circumvents the promise by slapping us with tax penalties if we do not have health insurance and increased cigarette taxes. What’s next?

There is one thing to be said though, as much as people want to blame Obama for the BP spill, it really is not his fault.

Chillen
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Chillen 07/15/10 - 08:14 am
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lord griggs. You say that

lord griggs. You say that Bush's tax cuts added to the debt. That is just not true. Here are your facts.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870473840457534730283119904...

What increased the debt under Bush is his constant "reaching across the aisle" and giving into liberal congressional demands for spending. That plus 2 wars and 9-11 causing the creation of Homeland Security. Bush was no fiscal conservative, he was a progressive conservative. Thus, the debt increase under his watch.

But, he pales in comparison to the community organizer's spending (no pun intended). 2.5 Million jobs lost since Obama took office. I thought he was going to fix everything?!?

110 Days until the November Election.

Chillen
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Chillen 07/15/10 - 08:13 am
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ggpap. I won't have to come

ggpap. I won't have to come back in 6 1/2 years to ante up. I'll be back in 2 1/2 when the community organizer is bounced out of office. You can say you were wrong then.

You can call the facts blowing smoke all you want. Its your only defense.

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FaceTheMusic 07/15/10 - 08:33 am
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Excellent letter, Mr.

Excellent letter, Mr. McGaughy. Facts are pesky things! Like you, I know who got the country into this mess, and I know who is trying to get us out of it. It's just like some of these posters complaining about Obama adding to the debt. It's true that the debt has increased,
but of the $2.3 trillion increase, 75% is carry over from Bush: $607 billion (interest on debt 2009/2010), $240 billion (Iraq and Afghanistan war spending 2009/2010), $528 billion (TARP spending 2009/2010), and $419 billion (drop in taxes caused by recession). As one can see, it's not Obama's "spending" which has caused the vast majority of the increase. As the economy comes out of the recession, the national debt will improve. When we get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, the debt will improve. I, for one, won't forget Colin Powell's warning to Bush about invading Iraq, "You break it, we own it." Well, Bush broke it, but good. This is just one of many Bush decisions, along with his de-regulation of the oil companies, for which he will be remembered. When the final chapter is written about the causes of the Gulf oil spill, I'm willing to bet that it, too, will have Bush's and Cheney's fingerprints all over it.

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iakovos 07/15/10 - 08:42 am
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He's doing a great job that's

He's doing a great job that's why he got the job and some people want to see this Nation fail at any cost talking about they are good Americans.
Please this is so clear we see you.

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dashiel 07/15/10 - 08:48 am
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Nevermind that TARP was

Nevermind that TARP was passed before Roberts ever flubbed the Inaugural Oath. Just keep taking your Aricept. Deny everything and demand the truth. Backward Ever!

Some of us still recall with great clarity the nightmare of Rove Cheney Bush and court jesters Rice 'n Rummy. Forget? FORGET H___!

Chillen
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Chillen 07/15/10 - 08:58 am
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iakovos says "He's doing a

iakovos says "He's doing a great job that's why he got the job" Polls would indicate otherwise. His current approval rating is 40-44% depending on the poll. That tells me that 56-60% of ALL Americans disapprove of the job he is doing.

dashiel. Tarp might have been passed pre-Obama. But once he took office he had the power to reverse it. But did he? Nope. Instead he added more stimulus packages to the mix.

Pesky Facts. They always work against liberals in the end. Always.

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carcraft 07/15/10 - 09:15 am
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Around April 6, 2010 (Under

Around April 6, 2010 (Under Obama) the Deep water Horizon was exempted from detailed environmental impact study including the likely hood of an oil spill. Oh I guess Obama was president but that wascally evil Doctor of Death Dick Channey managed to still run the Department of Minerals and Minning-How evil. Quick liberals look in the closet and under your bed Channey may be there..Don't go into the garage with out a lite at night or Channey may get you..That stange sound on Ghost Hunters is really Dick Channey canniving once again how to make Obama like bad (like Obama needs help)..Yes he is every where and has started body snatching so clones of his will run all of the Federal government and ravage the environment including your back yard..run and hide the Children Dick Channey is coming, cover the eyes of the horses or they will spook..Ice caps melt at Dick Channey's evil glare and even Obama is helpless against this incarnate evil wooooo boo!!! (sorry I scared you)

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