Conservatives have rotten fiscal record

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I read Shirley Schilling's letter "Barrett is the conservative of choice" (June 7), and I have to admit it was glowing in her support for Gresham Barrett's run for the governor's office.

She states he scored an average of 96 from the American Conservative Union and an "A" rating from the National Taxpayers Union plus a perfect 100 five times from the Eagle Forum. No one can say Gresham is not a true conservative.

She also stated that he was strongly pro-life. President George H.W. Bush and the first lady, Barbara, also were pro-life during his term in the White House -- but when he left office, Barbara Bush, in an interview with Barbara Walters, stated they were pro-choice. That tells me you have to say whatever is necessary to get votes.

Now let's take a look at the conservatives' record the last 30 years.

In 1980, President Reagan promised in his campaign to balance the budget in three years. At that time the national debt was $1 trillion. When he came into office he cut taxes on the rich (trickle-down economics), and when he left office we owed $4 trillion. Most working people realize wages have not kept up with the cost of living since then.

In came the first President Bush, and when he left we owed $5 trillion.

President Clinton came in (you know this liberal is going to spend us into the ground) and when he left we still owed $5 trillion, the Treasury was full of money and we started paying off the national debt. He had a plan to pay off the debt in eight years.

In came gunslinger George W. Bush, who was determined to go to war. But the war he started was on borrowed money, mainly from the Far East. The national debt soared from $5 trillion to $12 trillion, and he left an economy that drove the debt even higher.

The conservatives' record is not one that I would brag on. They got us into a mess that is going to be hard to fix. Looking at the record, I think we might need a liberal in the governor's office.

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dwb619
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dwb619 06/11/10 - 10:55 pm
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As a wise old man said, "The

As a wise old man said, "The math don't lie."

JM88
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JM88 06/11/10 - 11:19 pm
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Wow. You just called the

Wow. You just called the Bushes conservative.

gaspringwater
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gaspringwater 06/11/10 - 11:28 pm
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Very observant and well put

Very observant and well put Mr. McGaughy. But you must realize conservatives are such wonderful ideologue and that's what matters most to southerners.

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concrndcitzn 06/12/10 - 12:15 am
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This is just another example

This is just another example of how so called conservatives, 'the one's that cheat on taxes, have sex in bathrooms, and leave the country without telling anyone, to sleep with their mistress. want to have the christian right, conservative base perceive them. Once again, we are having to have a Democratic President correct the wrongs and the financial mismanagement of a bush, to get this country back in shape. Thank goodness bush 1 only had 4 years, so President Clinton was able to turn this country around, and leave office with a budget surplus, only to be spent by bush 2, and he left Obama with the biggest deficit in history. Yet the repubs blame Obama??? Wonder where they went to school??? Maybe the public ones they refuse to fund???? I don't think so.

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dashiel 06/12/10 - 02:20 am
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Yet we mustn't blame Bushies

Yet we mustn't blame Bushies or dear old Unca Ronnie. Wouldn't be prudent. Your eyelids are growing heavy. When I snap my fingers you will forget these blots on the landscape ever existed. We mustn't dwell on deficit spending and assaults on our civil liberties. Wouldn't be prudent.

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gijoe7898 06/12/10 - 03:34 am
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I'm trying not to imagine you

I'm trying not to imagine you kool aid drinkers typing one handed.

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 06/12/10 - 05:06 am
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I didn't like Bush's spending

I didn't like Bush's spending either but it is now time to quit blaming him for all the world's problems. He took advantage of the liberal "tax and spend" democrats running Congress in his last two years because he knew they liked to spend our money on anything they could and are still doing so.

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Tigger_The_Tiger 06/12/10 - 07:05 am
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That is why we need REAL

That is why we need REAL conservatives in office.

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johnston.cliff 06/12/10 - 07:58 am
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The shallow and misinformed

The shallow and misinformed often mistake those that call themselves Republicans with those that are conservative. It's called spin. It's the "speak" of the left. I believe it falls in the "politically correct" or "lie" category. Partial truths mixed with fantasy is the justification for the brand of hate they pedal.

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dashiel 06/12/10 - 08:19 am
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It's easy to understand why

It's easy to understand why Republicans want a moratorium on blaming Bush. After all, he's the number one reason Obama got elected! There's nothing wrong with not being in the top three percent. The trouble is that you continue to think and vote as if you were. You are not, never were, and almost certainly never will be. If you could buy Bush for what he's worth and sell him for what y'all seem to think he's worth everybody would be a Republican!

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southernguy08 06/12/10 - 08:31 am
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Hey GAS, as opposed to "I
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Hey GAS, as opposed to "I feel your pain?" Remember that line from Bill Clinton? Funny how Mr. McGaughy and you neglect mentioning that little nugget of info regarding Obama and this Dem congress adding over 2 trillion to our national debt his first year in office. And DASHIEL, regarding a moratorium on blame, equally funny how if anything is said about this president, the race card is played. But I forget, the rules of accountability have changed, haven't they? Excuse me while I laugh.

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dani 06/12/10 - 09:08 am
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BAHAHHHHH...Jim, I saw no

BAHAHHHHH...Jim, I saw no mention of Jimmy Carter. How come?

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transplant1 06/12/10 - 09:40 am
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Don't even go there,

Don't even go there, concerned citizen. The dems have elected murderers, child molesters and now a felon....

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rmwhitley 06/12/10 - 09:46 am
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Bill Clinton and Barack Obama
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Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are garden variety liars! If you insist on "citing" instances of digression by conservatives, please show the civil courtesy to "tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". As i see it, you pontificate the "virtues" of the liberal persuasion, yet fail to mete out blame judiciously. Georgia has the 6th worse home mortgage defaults nationally. Where's your "savior" Barry? other than a pleasure trip to Savannah, how many trips has he made to our state?

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/12/10 - 09:53 am
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CONCERNED, this Democratic
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CONCERNED, this Democratic president is correcting the fiscal mismanagement of Bush? How, by adding over 2 trillion $$ to our national debt his first year? This must be some of that math they're teaching in "guvmint skuuls" now. And regarding Dem morals, well, let's see, well how about Dem president Bill Clinton using the White House as his personal brothel. Married Dem governor Eliot Spitzer railing about morals and then hooking up with a prostitute on the side. Dem Senator John Edwards cheating on his wife who is fighting for her life with cancer, lying about fathering a child, then coming clean only after it's obvious she is his. And last, but not least, Dem IL governor Rod "Bad Boy" Blageovich trying to sell Obama's senate seat to the highest bidder. Yep, you must be so proud of your party! No wonder the polls show people want a new "change."

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dichotomy 06/12/10 - 10:02 am
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Oh please! Sure, the

Oh please! Sure, the republicans spent too much money. But their deficit spending combined for all of those cases is a drop in the buck compared to 18 months of Obama/Pelosi/Reid. And Clinton only had a budget surplus, not deficit reduction, at the end of his administration because he had a republican Congress holding his spending down. Remember, Hillary tried to break the bank with her own healthcare plan back then. Now we have let Obama kill our budget with Obamacare on top of reducing the quality of healthcare. Did you hear the latest fast growing industry in Canada? Private hospitals that only take cash. Why, because people are tired of waiting from 6 months to a 1 year to get an operation. Socialized medicine has broken their budget and run doctors and public hospitals out of business. You kool-aid drinking Democrats criticize Bush and the Republicans for not paying for the war. Have you noticed that Obama and the Democrats have not paid for Obamacare, especially since the "real" numbers came out AFTER the bill was signed into law. But Obama/Pelosi/Reid will be laughing while cashing their lifetime retirement checks when a Republican president has to deliver the bad news about more tax hikes and severe cuts to Medicare and Social Security in order to pay for this welfare program that will break the country for the benefit of less than 15% of the population. The other 85% of us were doing just fine because we worked for a living.

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impossible 06/12/10 - 10:20 am
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con, yep, from a morality
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con, yep, from a morality standpoint, it looks like some of the Republicans turned out to be closet Democrats. How odd for a liberal to discuss morality of any kind though, particularly sexual morality.

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Rhetor 06/12/10 - 10:23 am
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Well, truly, the math is the

Well, truly, the math is the math. Reagan and both Bushes ran up huge deficits. Obama is running up a deficit as well. However, the way conservatives are spinning back from Bush is appalling. Have you people no loyalty at all? Bush was the conservatives' hand-picked presidential candidate and Cheney was their hand-picked vice-presidential candidate. For 6 years conservatives had their hand-picked conservative Congress. Things fell apart at the seams, and now they have adopted a strategy of 1. blame liberals for the conservatives' mistakes and 2. pretend that Bush wasn't really their man after all. Bush and Cheney did exactly what they said they would do. It didn't work. Give Obama more than 18 months to clean up the mess. He's doing remarkably well, considering the obstructionism by Republicans in Congress.

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gaspringwater 06/12/10 - 10:40 am
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southernguy08 - Jesse

southernguy08 - Jesse Jackson's comment is a little extreme but it's aimed in the right direction. Obama does need a kick in his [ expletive ] for letting Bush's wars roll on and gobble money. Borrowed money too. Just like Bush's dumb. Please take the time and marvel at the waste. Make you wonder how dumb a nation can get.

Iraq War Facts, Results & Statistics at May 24, 2010
4,401 US Soldiers Killed, 31,822 Seriously Wounded

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm

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Lou Stewall 06/12/10 - 11:48 am
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I weep for America. Obama

I weep for America. Obama holds the record for the biggest debt increase as a percentage of GDP in one year. All of you youngsters who support him will find yourself the first generation who have a lower standard of living than the previous. This is the result of electing an idiot whom you knew virtually nothing about.

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lsmith 06/12/10 - 12:20 pm
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No way to debate facts with
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No way to debate facts with liberals in this forum. Their "rock star" president has them hypnotized them like a bunch of groupies. You got to ask yourself why Hollywood celebs, musicians, illegal aliens, life long food stamp recipients, Unions and a litany of social misfits such as radical college professors perpetualy fall lock step behing the most liberal of leaders. I quess they are more enlightened than those of us who more often than not hail from the heartland. We are "the salt of the earth" just the average Joe with patriotic roots that extend beyond our pocketbooks and social agenda. Perhaps we are at times policitically naive but I think we'll learn from the legacy of Obamanation. Many of us held our noses in voting for George Bush in the second term, we won't be fooled again.
It goes without saying that liberals will vote for Obama again even if he bankrupts this country and gives away our nuclear arsenal. There really is nothing repugnant enough this man could do to entice them to vote another way.

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mable8 06/12/10 - 03:37 pm
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With all due respect, Mr

With all due respect, Mr McGaughy, BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS are responsible for the economical fiasco we are now confronted with. Of all the Presidents you listed, only Clinton had the backbone to do something about it---but the incumbent Dems and Repubs would have nothing to do with those plans he left behind. We elect our officials, trusting that they will govern in accordance with the US Constitution and use common sense; obviously, that trust was sullied by the greed and avarice exhibited by BOTH factions. The American public must also share some of the blame; when things looked wrong, no one asked the incumbents to show accountability for their actions. Well, it is a hard lesson well-learned. Quit blaming one person or one group for the failures we have witnessed. The big O is supposed to provide leadership, giving direction and hope to the people. He has proven he is to inept for the position of the US Presidency; his pattern of lying seems almost pathological; he appears to be incapable of making any decision; and he is an embarrassment to the United States of America with his apologencia stance. The only support I will give to the big O is the support that is needed to impeach him and send him out of Washington.

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carcraft 06/12/10 - 04:28 pm
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Is all I have to say is look

Is all I have to say is look who controls the purse strings! Under Reagan the Democrates did and he vetoed spending money and shut down the government, do you remember? Of course not Reagan could not spend one cent not approved by congress! Bush's last two years Democrates controlled congress and spent and spent and spent. When Obama was elected the stimulus package-almost a trillion dollars and a grab bag ov goodies for the Democrates. The Health care bill, lie after lie told. It's cost has increased by 12% and it isn't even enforce yet. People will lose their insurance now that it is being analyzed but who cares. The Democrates are now going to tax energy and shut down production, that sure will stimulate job growth..Both Democrates and Republicans have mismanged spending and I winched when Bush did it but man Obama makes Bush look like the old lady in the grocery store with her change purse out!!

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gaspringwater 06/12/10 - 05:35 pm
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The Republicans are the worse

The Republicans are the worse deficit builders in our nation's recent history. Reagan, Bush the elder and Bush the dumber pushed the debt to dizzying heights. And Bush the dumber walked out of office leaving the county in the worse economic recession since the Great Depression. That puts him in the league with Herbert Hoover. Democrat Clinton lowered the deficit but otherwise it's increased every year since Reagan come to office in 1980.

It's tough, but the only way out of recession, if we don't want to wait 10 years, is for the government to borrow, spend, and run up the deficit. Pay unemployment insurance, or give tax breaks to people who will spend (not the rich). Spend like it's a big Christmas and you'll worry about paying the bills later.

But what is the national debt anyway. Our government owes about $4 trillion to foreign governments and about $9 trillion to Americans ( 4.5 trillion to the Social Security Fund ). The government also borrowed about 1 trillion to buy mortgages, make loans and buy equity in companies and banks ( TARP )

The national debt may be a little scary but never forget - The government has the power to TAX. Is that a clue to what's coming?

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rmwhitley 06/12/10 - 05:40 pm
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I'll take former President
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I'll take former President George W. Bush and former Vice-President Richard Cheney over anyone the left has to offer. Democrats, please cite one (1) redeeming quality such as character, honesty, love of country that have been exhibited by Presidents John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, James Carter, William Clinton or Barack Obama.

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johnston.cliff 06/12/10 - 06:08 pm
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Under the Bush

Under the Bush administration, Dow hovered at 14, 000 and unemployment hovered at 4.5%, this while dealing with an attack by radical muslim and an inherited recession.
Now after 4 years of Dem control of the purse strings and 2+ years of obamanomics(the nationalizing of health care and 2/3 of the American auto industry), the Dow struggles to reach 10,000 and new unemployment hovers around 10% (national unemployment around 18%). The math doesn't lie.
I'm sure ready for some more of that hope and change.

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southernguy08 06/12/10 - 09:16 pm
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GAS, you're kidding, right?
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GAS, you're kidding, right? You seem oblivious to the fact that Oduma and the Dems have added over 2 trillion $$ his first year in office. Clinton had a REPUBLICAN congress watching the money. I guess you forgot that little nugget of info, eh? Again, you're kidding? The only way out of a recession is to borrow, spend, and run up the deficit? That must be that "guvmint skuul" economics you've been taught, eh? You boost the economy by stimulating the industrial base. Then, it provides us with JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, and not government jobs. Lower the corporate tax rate, and make it profitable for industry to operate here and you will see the economy turn around. Sadly, Obama and the Dems seem blind to that fact too, probably because Obama has a cabinet made up of less than 18% that have ever worked in the private sector. Little surprise that polls show the voters want real "change" this November.

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gaspringwater 06/12/10 - 10:31 pm
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southernguy08 - I see you're

southernguy08 - I see you're advocating old Ronnie's SUPPLY SIDE and TRICKLE DOWN economics. That's discredited and only Republicans believe that anymore.

The way out of a recession is the FDR way. Put spending money in people's pockets. DEMAND SIDE economics. The recession ends when people start buying. Buying creates jobs and increases business. Both the US and Europe are using DEMAND SIDE economics to combat the recession.

And you're right about the public wanting change. They're booting both Democrat and Republican incumbents!

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impossible 06/13/10 - 09:36 am
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Reaganomics, like Reagan
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Reaganomics, like Reagan himself, has been much disparaged by liberals but certainly not discredited. The way to put money in people's pockets is employment in the PRIVATE sector rather than stealing it from some people's pockets and putting it in others' pockets. John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan both knew how to spur a vibrant economy - cutting taxes instead of punishing achievement. Wasteful spending on more bureaucracies with more government employees doesn't produce anything but only worsens the problem. The Obamacure: More government employees + more illegal immigrants = more liberal votes. The latter are multiplied by the motor-voter busers like SEIU and Acorn hauling as many as possible to as many polling places as possible. We sure don't want to be racist by having efficient Voter ID requirements, as that would interfere with the march of the lemmings.

"Both the US and Europe are using DEMAND SIDE economics to combat the recession." Wow! It isn't working in Europe, so let's do it here too!

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