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There are some necessary things that simply cannot be handled by us as individuals. I will list some, generally in the order of agreement of their need.

First is national security; then providing police and fire protection; and universal K-12 education. We need roads, clean water and sewage disposal; a safe food supply, as well as safe and effective medicines; protection from fraud by businesses and banks; a safety net for the misfortunes that come, often without personal fault; Social Security for the elderly; and, most recently, access to health care that does not bankrupt the seriously ill.

These community services, paid for by taxes, are provided by our local, state and national governments. As one who has lived through the 1960s and '70s with its far higher tax rates, I feel my current tax load is light.

Libertarians -- such as Ron Paul and his son Rand; Mike Vasovski, who is running for a U.S. House seat; and some of the Tea Partiers -- may not be interested in paying for much of this list. Democrats are most likely to accept all the items noted, and Republicans are somewhere in the middle. None of what I've listed gets us into the socialism, usually defined as public ownership of business.

How much we consider ourselves as part of a community -- where the weakest are, or are not, simply abandoned -- should guide each of us in the November elections. Other than the very well-off, who of us can be sure we will not, ourselves, hit a really rough spot and need a hand?

Victor Reilly

Aiken, S.C.

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gaspringwater
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gaspringwater 05/29/10 - 12:20 am
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Americans are not overtaxed

Americans are not overtaxed but they gripe about it. To illustrate - The IRS reports that the nation's 400 highest-earning households reported an average income of $345 million in 2007 — up 31% from 2006 — and that their average tax bill fell to a 15-year low. They were taxed at the 16% rate.

Their average income more than doubled in 2007 from $131.1 million in 2001, the year Congress adopted George W. Bush's tax cuts.

Trey Enfantay
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Trey Enfantay 05/29/10 - 01:02 am
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In a country of over

In a country of over 300-million you try and make a point using statistics of about 400. Nice try, GI.

KSL
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KSL 05/29/10 - 01:26 am
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gasp, you take the top 1

gasp, you take the top 1 percent and try to make an issue out of something that does not apply to most of the top 30%. Or maybe it's the top 50% of all taxpayers, or maybe it's all of the taxpayers, still the top 50% of people living here.

KSL
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KSL 05/29/10 - 01:28 am
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The truth is that all

The truth is that all Americans should have to pay some Federal tax. Everyone needs at least a dollar dog in the fight.

KSL
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KSL 05/29/10 - 01:31 am
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Let me correct my above

Let me correct my above statement. All people earning income in America should have to pay our taxes.

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KSL 05/29/10 - 01:33 am
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Foreigners too into SS and

Foreigners too into SS and not be able to draw from it. They come here to work because they can make more here. Fine. There is a premium they have to pay.

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Taylor B 05/29/10 - 07:12 am
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If this guy thinks Rand Paul

If this guy thinks Rand Paul is a libertarian, I'd suggest he do some research.

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Dixieman 05/29/10 - 07:53 am
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Here is the truth, from the

Here is the truth, from the IRS.
Top 1% of income earners pay 40% of all Federal taxes
Top 5% pay 61%
Top 25% pay 87%
Top 50% pay 97%.
Bottom 50% pay 3% and have learned they can now vote themselves a share of other people's money, a pernicious and destructive outlook on life.
Letter writer and some bloggers here needs to get up out of bed, go to work, and provide for themselves and their families instead of waiting for some grownup to come along and spoon-feed them.
Socialism is just as effective if it merely suffocates (over-regulates) business and property as if it owns them outright.

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chascush 05/29/10 - 10:38 am
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Victor, it is a shame the

Victor, it is a shame the former Soviet Union is no longer but you described it perfectly. You would have been really happy there. Socialism/Communism does not last because they run out of someone else money to spend.

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soldout 05/29/10 - 09:16 am
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the fair tax or national

the fair tax or national sales tax is the answer. Eliminate IRS. The government does provide too many services including public education which is used to promote whatever is in vogue with the government leaders at the time. Protect people from other countries, enforce the laws, learn what the meaning of illegal is and good Americans can get the rest done. The government doesn't need to be in medical field at all. The world health organization says that most advances in health over the last 200 years came from better sanitation and has nothing to do with medical advances. There are areas in the world with very little medical care that has people living the longest. We have far too much government. If they can give you all you need they can take all you have. Most people like being taken care of and instead of choosing the "One" who cares the most for them they choose government.

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CorporalGripweed 05/29/10 - 12:29 pm
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I understand the need to fund

I understand the need to fund the government. And it's admirable to want to help people who"need a hand". But what eats up more of the federal budget than almost everything else combined is entitlements. Social Security for old people? Fine. They've paid into it, why not get some back. Military? Youbetcha. Infrastrutcure? Gotta have it. But generational welfare which saps the desire to work for a living is counter-productive. When I get up at 5a.m. every day to go to work so someone else can lounge around in their paid for apartment and still receive 1200 or 1500 bucks a month just to breathe. Yeah I get upset.Don't accuse us of not wanting to "pay our fair share" I already do.

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chascush 05/29/10 - 10:47 am
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Victor thinks it is great for

Victor thinks it is great for the government to steal from one group of people and give it too a bunch of lazy parasites. Hussein, the community organizer is his hero.

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orb 05/29/10 - 12:24 pm
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The Federal Government,

The Federal Government, contrary to the Constitution, has usurped the powers relegated to the states. Those people who take an oath to defend the Constitution have completely ignored it. Sadly some are ignoring their oath to defend the country.

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johnston.cliff 05/29/10 - 02:15 pm
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Victor, Victor, Victor, your

Victor, Victor, Victor, your silly ideas need some reality. How about comparing them to Canada or most European Countries. The system you aspire to, total socialism, DOES..........NOT...........WORK.

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tabletop 05/29/10 - 04:01 pm
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Representation without

Representation without taxation must become unconstitutional.

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lsmith 05/29/10 - 04:07 pm
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The majority of those people
Unpublished

The majority of those people on the public dole right now are not getting a hand up, but a hand out and they expect it because it's been bred into the culture after a couple of generations paved the way for them. I have no problem with those who need a helping hand to get them on their feet but the help cannot and should not become the only source of income they have. I'm not going to attempt to recount my observations at the emergency room, grocery stores because it would just take up too much space. Besides, I think all of your have seen this repugnant ocurence enough to know for yourself first hand.
Oh, and I forgot about the line at the lottery ticket purchase window. People who cannot afford the shoes on their feet buying lottery tickets by the dozens.

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corgimom 05/29/10 - 06:04 pm
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"The world health

"The world health organization says that most advances in health over the last 200 years came from better sanitation and has nothing to do with medical advances."

And where did that better sanitation come from? From municipalities- that people paid for with taxes. And from the laws passed by governments.

Oh, silly me, that makes perfect sense!

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baronvonreich 05/29/10 - 07:02 pm
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More card-carrying socialism

More card-carrying socialism nonesense from Victor Reilly.

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55 F-100 05/29/10 - 07:30 pm
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Taking a different posture on

Taking a different posture on this topic, the taxing issue would be pretty much moot if: (1) the taxpayers would not be responsible for irresponsible pregnancies by single mothers whose "occupation" is to be a dedicated single parent in order to be a welfare broodmare producing babies that she could never afford if not for welfare, housing allowances, food stamps, etc., etc., etc. (2) Force the "unwedded mother" to identify the identity of the "baby-daddy" so that he would be responsible for the expenses incurred by the birth, and if the unwedded mother refuses, then perform a hysterectomy on her so that the taxpayers will not be responsible for any of her future indiscressions. (3) The baseless "crazy checks" or "disability checks" which are just "post office money" for those who are actually able-bodied enough to work but are just too worthless or shiftless to accept the fact that they could "flip burgers for a living" if not for the fact that they think that they are entitled to be taken care of because of the suppossed "atrocities" in their "ancestor's" past. (4) Deal with and deport the illegal aliens and eliminate the "anchor baby" allowance. If the mom and dad are not legal citizens of the U.S.A., then their "download" is not a legal citizen either. Prezbhojangles, do these 4 things, and tax increases would be unnecessary.

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 05/29/10 - 09:19 pm
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There's a simple plan for

There's a simple plan for making government subsidy programs viable. This, of course, doesn't include retirement programs that people have paid into all their working lives. Government subsidy programs are the "something for nothing" programs used to enslave people.

THE PLAN
1- Only American citizens are eligible for the subsidy programs.
2 - All people that go on subsidy instantly lose their voting privileges and must be off subsidy for two years before they can apply to regain them.
3 - All reproductive rights are forfeit upon accepting subsidy.

Not only would the subsidy programs become more efficient, but the operating costs would immediately shrink to tiny fraction of what they are now.

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Chanah 05/30/10 - 08:41 am
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Love that plan j.c!

Love that plan j.c!

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