Avoid the VAT and embrace the Fair Tax

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Am I the only one who remembers the first proponents of a Fair Tax were met with the criticism that the Fair Tax was a value-added tax that has stagnated European countries? Those dissenters had never read, let alone understood, the Fair Tax -- they only followed the talking points pushed on them by corrupt, politically motivated sources.

Now those same sources are promoting that evil VAT in lieu of the Fair Tax.

Why do people in this country oppose ideas that they have neither researched nor evaluated? Is it laziness? Do they think they have never had to contribute, and don't want to change that status? Believe me, they pay every day with their own impotence.

Right in the middle of another European economic crisis, our misled or idiotic political class is promoting that very VAT they derided as an argument against the Fair Tax. The argument was specious and a response to the panic of losing power.

Read about the Fair Tax, then ask your political representatives what the Fair Tax truly is. If they don't know in this day and time, they are poor representatives indeed. If they misrepresent it, they are taking you for a fool.

Driven only by the lust for personal power, these dunderheads are promoting the very policies that have led to the fiscal instability and economic stagnation that plagues Europe.

The Fair Tax is exactly that because it will put the American people back on an even status with the American politician, who now uses the IRS as a source of power and corruption.

How many Americans now forced into bankruptcy by the policies of the politically elite have had all debts forgiven except those of the IRS?

How much tax fraud has led to IRS investigations and prosecutions with little return on investment? How much goes hidden and unprosecuted?

How much money laundering has led to investigations and prosecutions with little return on investment? How much goes hidden and unprosecuted?

How many very rich Americans hide their wealth in Fiji, the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, Belgium and Switzerland to avoid the IRS?

Get rid of the IRS. Tax Americans on what they consume, not what they earn. Consumer prices will come down. Spending power -- your power -- will increase. Politicians will lose power. Corruption will lose influence.

Is that so hard to understand?

Do you want to understand?

William J. Welsh, M.D.

Augusta

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Trey Enfantay
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Trey Enfantay 05/14/10 - 11:18 pm
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Thank you, Dr Welsh. Once

Thank you, Dr Welsh.

Once again, for the answers to questions about this:

www.fairtax.org

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Nat the Cat 05/15/10 - 12:58 am
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I agree completely. Now more

I agree completely. Now more than ever. With another 16,000 IRS Agents breathing down our necks about not paying for personal Health Care, the Socialist Party is putting the "enforcement" arm of their takeover plan in effect. Please back candidates in November who are willing to repeal the Health Care Law before it can go into effect, and back the "Fair Tax." Trey has cited an excellent source to help you understand the "Fair Tax." Don't be afraid of the Fair Tax, if I can understand it, anyone can. It's a heck of a lot easier than our current 7000 page Tax Code! And it's Fair. The "value added tax," is a non-starter. The VAT will increase the price of consumer goods and cause runaway inflation.

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sjgraci 05/15/10 - 01:27 am
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Respectfully Dr. Welsh, the

Respectfully Dr. Welsh, the fair tax is a fraud.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 05/15/10 - 03:47 am
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SJGRACI, you base this on???
Unpublished

SJGRACI, you base this on??? The fraud is the current tax system and the IRS, threatening to put us all in prison for not paying. You really think they can put millions in prison if this country's taxpayers say "Enough!"? It's coming baby, along with a lot more "change."

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Dixieman 05/15/10 - 05:21 am
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In Europe, when they

In Europe, when they introduced the VAT at a very low level they kept the income tax and gradually nudged the VAT up into the 20-30% range, so now in those countries they have both!
FairTax is the way to go!!

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 05/15/10 - 06:31 am
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The foolishness of sjgracie's

The foolishness of sjgracie's comment exemplifies the myrmidon "thinking" of the well controlled left. Neil Boortz, one of the co-writers of the book explaining the Fair Tax Plan, commented that the Fair Tax had two noticeable faults. One, it was easy to demagogue. Those that revel in being uninformed or misinformed love the lies about the Fair Tax and ignore the truth. The followers of the concept of "nanny government" are isolated from reality.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 07:01 am
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sjgraci.........PLEASE back

sjgraci.........PLEASE back up your statement that the fair tax is a fraud. Provide evidence this time instead of just making comments like "it's just so the rich can pay less tax" or some other wild comment like that. Go to www.fairtax.org and pick it apart if you wish, but just simply saying it is a fraud is foolish, unless you can say why.

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robaroo 05/15/10 - 07:39 am
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Personally, I don't care what

Personally, I don't care what kind of tax we have as long as the US collects as much revenue as it spends. The country is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, just like Greece and the other Mediterranian countries. The root problem with taxes is that everybody wants Santa Claus to pay for the government services they receive.

Good luck getting the fair tax enacted, Dr Welsh. You have as much chance of that as I have of seeing a balanced budget. And who knows what we will have after the financial collapse of the US government.

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slippery 25 05/15/10 - 07:48 am
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Very Good! It would create a

Very Good! It would create a more honest goverment.

americafirst
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americafirst 05/15/10 - 08:00 am
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Cliff, you wrote that Boortz

Cliff, you wrote that Boortz said the fair tax had two faults but you only reference one. What is the other?

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curly123053 05/15/10 - 08:36 am
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I have been involved with the

I have been involved with the FairTax movement for 5 years now and it is NOT going away anytime soon. This grassroots movement is growing daily by the numbers across the country as people finally sit down to see it's advantages. Sjgraci has never seen the bill and does not care to see it. If he had seen the bill and all it would do for Americans like us he would be all for it. Unless, he is affiliated with one of those corrupt politicians who keep telling the people how "oppressive" the Fairtax would be and he has not even read the bill. The FairTax removes the taxing powers of the politicians and they do not want to lose that power over us, the people. It is time for people to start attending the FairTax meetings and learn exactly how we all would benefit. There are monthly meetings in Martinez that are very educating and helpful in understanding the FairTax. ANYBODY who complains about the FairTax either has not read the bill or they are promoting the agenda of a corrupt politician who is concerned about losing power over the people.

CorporalGripweed
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CorporalGripweed 05/15/10 - 08:40 am
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There are so many advantages

There are so many advantages to the Fair Tax as opposed to the graduated income tax and the VAT. The IRS disappears. You get to take home all of your "take home" pay. Imbedded taxes go away. The prebate levels the playing field as far as taxes on the basic neccessities goes. And you are not penalized for earning more. You are only penalized when you spend. But it's gonna be a long row to hoe. The Constitution will have to amended to repeal the income tax and politicians will fight vigorously against it. Mainly because it shifts so much power from the imperial federal government back to the individual.Still it's much better than the convoluted system we have now.

disssman
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disssman 05/15/10 - 09:09 am
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I believe that if a program

I believe that if a program is loved by the richest 1 percent of tax payers, it may be to their benefit to pass it. I have looked at it and can find no reference to reduction of state taxes. Now when a stste is reduced federal funds for projects, do you really think they won't increase state taxes to make up the difference? And what about local taxes?

curly123053
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curly123053 05/15/10 - 09:35 am
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dissman, each individual

dissman, each individual state will be enacting a Fairtax also when this federal bill is passed and all your questions are answered in the bill. I would run out of room here to put it all down but you can go to www.fairtax.org for all the info you need to be educated in the FairTax. By the way, there is a SC version of the FairTax already introduced in the SC House. SC could become the 1st state with a FairTax enacted before the national bill if it passes. Compared to what is happening now with our economy the fairTax would be a fresh breath of fiscal stability for all of us when it becomes law. You can also go to the Ga Fairtax site and see when the meetings are held so you can become familiar with the advantages of the bill.

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sconservative 05/15/10 - 10:01 am
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The VAT is a hidden,

The VAT is a hidden, regressive tax; the Fair Tax is not. The VAT and Fair Tax will be applied only to new items. Used items will be untaxed. While the Fair Tax encourages frugality and savings, the current income tax does not. Just as inflation is a hidden, regressive tax, the VAT will take a disproportionate percentage of income from the poor and retired. The VAT is an additional tax; the Fair Tax replaces the Federal income tax and FICA Social Security and Medicare payroll deductions. The Fair Tax does not tax corporations except for new supplies that they must purchase, so many which have been forced overseas to lower tax burdens will at least have an incentive to relocate to the U.S.

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Chillen 05/15/10 - 10:23 am
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Great letter. Right on the

Great letter. Right on the mark! The VAT is dangerous. The Fair Tax is supported by way more than the top 1%. It is supported by anyone who wants tax fairness, reduced government spending and no IRS.

The answer to your question "Why do people in this country oppose ideas that they have neither researched nor evaluated?" The sheeple blindly follow whatever the messiah tells them to do. If he says jump off the cliff, they jump. They do no research, just follow in lockstep and oppose all conservative ideas no matter what they are.

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johnston.cliff 05/15/10 - 04:33 pm
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Boortz also said a major

Boortz also said a major problem with the Fair Tax plan is that the people that gain all of their power from tax control has to vote the plan in. This means removing all of the old guard D.C. politicians and put in new politicians that still feel "America First" is the rule of the day. I used to think that there was little chance of this ever happening, but the TEA Party movement seems to be bringing the dishonesty of the old guard to light. "Secure" seats are falling and young constitutionalists are filling them. I see the chance for a Fair Tax vote improving every time there's a primary.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 01:53 pm
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What is fraudulent about it

What is fraudulent about it sjgraci? Explain to this ignorant person. (nice personal attack in lieu of an answer too)

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 02:00 pm
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And thank you.....I

And thank you.....I understand the Progressive tax just fine.

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 05/15/10 - 04:32 pm
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I apologize for using your

I apologize for using your name americafirst. Apparently it's a new rule that no personal pronouns are allowed. I'll not make the mistake again.

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 05/15/10 - 04:39 pm
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No person that had read the

No person that had read the Fair Tax Plan would make comments that knowledgeable people would recognize as foolish lies, unless CNN had told them to. Easily led and blind fools are myrmidons of the socialist left. I personally laugh at them.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 04:46 pm
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If they DID actually read it,

If they DID actually read it, they would be able to tell you what about it they think is a fraud.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 08:23 pm
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chirp, chirp, chirp.........I

chirp, chirp, chirp.........I hear the crickets.............no explanation as to WHY the Fair Tax is a fraud.....just the blind statement.

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corgimom 05/15/10 - 08:32 pm
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"How many Americans now

"How many Americans now forced into bankruptcy by the policies of the politically elite have had all debts forgiven except those of the IRS?"

Probably the same amount of people that have been forced into bankruptcy that didn't get to discharge their child support obligations, either. It is a myth that someone can discharge all debt in a BK.

What was the point of his question?

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/15/10 - 09:34 pm
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True Corgi...but the Fair Tax

True Corgi...but the Fair Tax is still better.

jim_julian
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jim_julian 05/19/10 - 04:57 pm
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@CorporalGripweed One slight

@CorporalGripweed One slight error in your comment, sir. The FairTax HR-25 does NOT require a change to the 16th Amendment to be implemented. The 16th is permissive, not directive.

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