Questions linger on local reactor deal

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President Obama will give Georgia Power more than $8 billion to build nuclear reactors only if they use union labor for construction. Isn't it unconstitutional and illegal to profile and discriminate against American, nonunion workers in favor of union construction workers -- many of whom are illegal aliens?

Should the attorney general and the ACLU investigate to protect American workers? Are fair-hiring laws being broken? Will this provide jobs for Americans or illegals?

Dan McDermott

Stapleton

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bigalsc
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bigalsc 05/13/10 - 09:35 pm
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Dan, You are DREAMING!!!

Dan, You are DREAMING!!! Union labor is thoroughly vetted and there are NO illegals allowed in trade unions. Now, about that non-union labor...

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Nat the Cat 05/14/10 - 12:04 am
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Dan, you know good and well

Dan, you know good and well about all of the money that the Unions have given to our illustrious President. And that our President doesn't give a rat's behind about the Law or the Constitution. And while he is screwing over all of the local non-union companies that desperately need jobs and could provide the same services for half the costs, more than 200,000 gallons of Light Sweet, Blood Red Crude will be pouring into the Gulf today causing untold ecological and environmental damage of Biblical proportion that will last for decades. And our President is not going to do a dog-gone thing about it. Our President is indeed, pathetic. But please remember my standard disclaimer: I say all of this only because there is a Black man in the White House.

When up through the ground come Obamalin' crude!

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/14/10 - 03:31 am
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bigalsc, it's still illegal

bigalsc, it's still illegal discrimination.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/14/10 - 03:49 am
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Illegals aren't allowed in

Illegals aren't allowed in the US...yet they still get there, how can you be so sure about the unions? On what are you basing this faith?

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corgimom 05/14/10 - 04:51 am
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"Isn't it unconstitutional

"Isn't it unconstitutional and illegal to profile and discriminate against American, nonunion workers in favor of union construction workers -- many of whom are illegal aliens?"

No. And HOW is that profiling?

All the people involved at the site have to have background checks and they need to be nuke certified- and the training comes through the unions.

Where do people come up with these crazy ideas?

NewHere
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NewHere 05/14/10 - 04:54 am
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As a former nuclear power

As a former nuclear power plant worker you need a background check in order to work at the nuclear plant, with respect to the union issues, non union worker are allowed to be hired by the subcontractors as long as the pay prevailing union wages. We should be happy that good paying jobs are coming to the area.

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 05/14/10 - 05:31 am
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As a CURRENT nuke worker, I

As a CURRENT nuke worker, I can tell you that security clearances are far easier to get than they used to be.

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WW1949 05/14/10 - 06:34 am
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A person that cannot pass a

A person that cannot pass a stringent security check and a stringent work test should be allowed to work at any nuclear plant regardless weather they are union or not. I disagree with the idea that a non-union company should have to raise the wages to work on a job that has union employees and then lower them back down to the currant prevailing wage when they leave that job. What would an employee say if the non union wage were lower than the union wage and their wage was lowered to match the union wage. It can happen because the wages that my employees make is based on production instead of an hourly wage and most make prox. $25.00 per hr if they do not waste time. When working on Fort Gordon that is more than twice the federal wage scale of their trade.

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Techfan 05/14/10 - 06:50 am
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Simple solution, don't take

Simple solution, don't take the money.

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Chillen 05/14/10 - 07:44 am
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When the unions are one of

When the unions are one of the main reasons you were put into office you are indebted to them.

Obama just gave them another gift the other day that somehow the mainstream media totally missed. Through executive order he changed the election rules in favor of the unions. It will make it much easier now for them to attack and infiltrate an organization. The union mob bosses must be so excited!

Unions have infiltrated our federal and local government so much that we will never be able to fire, lay-off or adjust wages for ANY government worker. Just look at what's going on in Calif. right now with their teachers unions. Calif is broke and they can't layoff or furlough one single person because of the unions.

Unions are a big part of the problems we are having in our economy. In today's society there is no longer a need for them. They need to all be shut down by making regulations tougher on them, not easier. Thanks alot Obama. We will live with all your crappy legacies for at least 100 years. History books (if written by non-partisans) will be very unkind to this clown.

Workers of the World....Unite!

burninater
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burninater 05/14/10 - 12:50 pm
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More of this. Could the AC

More of this. Could the AC ... or anyone else ... please link references to this deal REQUIRING union labor as a loan guarantee requirement? I haven't been able to find any evidence that this assertion is nothing but a fabrication. It would be disappointing to discover that the AC is repeatedly disseminating false information.

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baronvonreich 05/14/10 - 12:58 pm
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Politics as usual in the

Politics as usual in the corrupt, inept, disastrous 2 political system that so many ignorant Americans have fostered for a long time.

burninater
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burninater 05/14/10 - 02:23 pm
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By the way -- to provide full

By the way -- to provide full disclosure -- I am working on the excavations at Vogtle. They are currently using non-union labor. I am not in a role that allows me to know what kind of negotiations have been in place with the DOE over the loan guarantees. I would really be interested to know whether or not this repeated assertion by the AC has truth to it. Please, AC -- or anyone else posting on this site -- substantiate these claims.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/14/10 - 03:05 pm
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To Burninator: Here is

To Burninator:

Here is perhaps the guest column that started the discussion. Several days after President Obama dropped the bombshell about the $8 million loan guarantee offer to build Plant Vogtle's new reactors, William Hatcher, president of a staffing company, had his column published in the Chronicle. Here is an exerpt:

. . . between Georgia Power and the Obama administration to perhaps accept an $8.33 billion federal "tax-funded" loan guarantee in building two new Plant Vogtle reactors in exchange for Georgia Power and Shaw using "only" union labor during construction.

Here is a link to the entire column: April 25, 2010.
I have no idea whether what Hatcher says is completely true, but it certainly rings true, as Obama is the best friend the unions have had in the White House for a long time. And he is the worst enemy the rest of us have ever had.

burninater
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burninater 05/14/10 - 03:15 pm
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Thanks Lamb, I saw that guest

Thanks Lamb, I saw that guest letter (if you click that link, you'll see my response comment to that letter as well). The author of that guest letter's source is an earlier article by the AC that I dug up, which nowhere states that union labor was a loan guarantee condition. A news agency that promotes "facts" that "ring" true, rather than ARE true, sounds like a Ministry of Information that would have done Stalin and Saddam proud. I would rather our country was ruled by citizens informed by law and fact rather than innuendo and disinformation. And on top of that, the fact that the guest writer had a profit motive for making the assertion that he does makes the AC look even worse, if the assertion is not in fact true.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/14/10 - 03:15 pm
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Here's another article,

Here's another article, though it says nothing about unions:

April 29, 2010

I was repeating Hatcher's assertions in my comments to the April 29 article. It would be nice if a Chronicle business reporter would actually find out the fine print in the loan guarantee offer.

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dwb619 05/14/10 - 04:32 pm
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To the letter writer: Is it

To the letter writer: Is it not employment discrimination when a non-union contractor refuses to hire union members?

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