Handling of health care is appalling

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How completely senseless and/or oblivious do you have to be to think it's OK for legislators to proclaim that any health-care program is "good" for the people but just not quite good enough for themselves?

Has our collective IQ and awareness level dropped so drastically that we don't know dictatorship -- or whatever else it may be euphemistically called -- even when it reaches into our most personal of places and smacks us in the faces and wallets, and takes away our rights, wastes our money and limits our freedom?

I pray a revolution is brewing.

Lynn Gilmore

Evans

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Chillen
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Chillen 04/30/10 - 11:09 pm
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The arrogance of some

The arrogance of some politicians is really amazing. Us "peons" have to take whatever plan they dictate but they can continue on with their cadillac healthcare & pensions. Kinda like a certain "leader" we all know who got rid of school vouchers in Washington DC but then sent his own kids to a private school.

You said it just right Lynn, how senseless & oblivious do you have to be? Clearly about 45% of our nation falls into that category.

But, after all, we are talking about the messiah, the chosen one here so we must blindly follow him. If not we are branded a hater, a stiff suit, a religious nut, a radical, an extremist or a racist (did I cover all your talking points dems?).

Tuesday, November 2. Now only 8 months away.

chel
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chel 05/01/10 - 08:32 am
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@Chillen- yep the insults and

@Chillen- yep the insults and labels of racist will be flying soon with the usual U know who! Still waiting on that answer to my question to the left: How are we going to pay for all of the spending? Wonder if I will get my answer anytime soon but won't hold my breath.

Nat the Cat
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Nat the Cat 05/01/10 - 12:17 am
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Chiming in with Chillen and

Chiming in with Chillen and Chel--They get the Cadillac and we get to pay for it. Drain the Swamp!

grouse
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grouse 05/01/10 - 12:33 am
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No rights have been taken
Unpublished

No rights have been taken away...more hysteria.

IMRIGHTYOUREWRONG
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IMRIGHTYOUREWRONG 05/01/10 - 02:46 am
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Chillen...perhaps it was just

Chillen...perhaps it was just a fat-finger incident. But you really should check your math on when November is expected to arrive.

sjgraci
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sjgraci 05/01/10 - 02:53 am
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Hysteria? Yes, but it is

Hysteria? Yes, but it is fueled from pure ignorance. Dictatorship? Please. Do you have health care insurance? Do you make under $250,000 in taxable income? If so, which is most likely the case, you are not effected by the Health Reform Law except that insurance companies won't be able to deny you or a loved one coverage when you get sick.

Rhetor
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Rhetor 05/01/10 - 06:04 am
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Let's see-this letter is

Let's see-this letter is basically arguing for our sacred right to be poor and sick. Are you sure that this is the best place to take a stand against tyranny?

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 05/01/10 - 07:08 am
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Let's see, the stupid still

Let's see, the stupid still support obama and won't change because it's their right. Yep, I see November as a turning point for America.

Runner46
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Runner46 05/01/10 - 07:53 am
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The Congress should have

The Congress should have stopped with the health care pool requirement for insurers to create for those who needed it. This MANDATORY requirement for EVERYONE to purchase private health care insurance (with a few exceptions) is totalitarian and un-American. ALL private insurance purchases should be OPTIONAL. This government mandate is a TAX and needs to be overturned, asap. We don't need Big Brother government looking over our shoulders for our own health care, unless the government wants to pay for it so we can have it for free (not a good idea.)

chel
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chel 05/01/10 - 08:38 am
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@SJ---no offense but your

@SJ---no offense but your first sentence sounds like a soundbite from Obama's pre-election campaign speech. Have you heard Obama lately when asked about this economic group he has put together? You know the one where 9 democrats and 6 republicans will sit and decide what programs to cut and what taxes will be put in place since now the word "unsustainable" is actually coming out of the democrats side? Did you hear when Obama said "Nothing is off the table" when he was asked about the VAT tax and cutting the new HC Bill? I think this administration has finally come to grips with the debt that started w/ Bush but has tripled w/ Obama. This "gorilla" in the room is now out and must be dealt with. (no pun intended to Johnston's avatar...:)! )

Techfan
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Techfan 05/01/10 - 08:54 am
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How about changing the law

How about changing the law and say you don't have to buy health insurance, but if you're in an accident or become seriously ill, you are to receive no treatment. If you wish to have treatment, and are unable to pay your bill in full, all of your personal assets are used as collateral to be sold and applied to your bill. Then much of the costs of those who refuse insurance wouldn't be passed on to the rest of us.

Dixieman
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Dixieman 05/01/10 - 09:36 am
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I always like the provision

I always like the provision in the Contract With America that said all laws passed by Congress have to apply to Congress as well - they always exempt themselves from the packages they impose on us, like minimum wage and hour laws, sexual harassment, etc.
November 6, 2012.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 05/01/10 - 09:46 am
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The politburo always gets

The politburo always gets better healthcare than the average comrade on the streets. You elect a Communist Democrat regime and you get Communist Democrat programs. 'Nuff said. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Please send all of your money to Obamaredistributioncenter@whitehouse.gov...PayPal accepted.

reader54
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reader54 05/01/10 - 10:24 am
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Don't worry. Your prayers

Don't worry. Your prayers will be answered. However, what's the chance for victory? Armed resistance is useless against a modern gov't. That said, I'd rather die than be a slave to The Machine.

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 10:53 am
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Praying for a Revolution???

Praying for a Revolution??? Gee I wonder if Lenin or Castro ever did that? I thought that prayer was for some other "Good" requests. This lady goes to church every Sunday, bless her!

carcraft
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carcraft 05/01/10 - 10:54 am
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These idiots in congress

These idiots in congress passed a law that disenfranchises their own staffers from health care (www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34900.html), it is raising the cost of health care according to new government estimates (www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/health/policy/24health.html) and Obama hide facts about the health care bill from Americans (sbynews.blogspot.com/.../did-obama-hide-damning-health-care.html). Will now that the bill has been passed Nancy Pelosi and congress get to see what is in the bill! BWAHAHAHAHA what a great piece of legislation...

jack
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jack 05/01/10 - 12:43 pm
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The Tea Party is the giant

The Tea Party is the giant that has awakened. Obumbler has been the greatest force in getting Republicans and independents united, especially conservative Republicans.

jack
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jack 05/01/10 - 12:42 pm
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Terp, not only Lenin, but the

Terp, not only Lenin, but the American Colonies held a revolution and you see we have had th greatest nation in man's history, regardless of what Obumbler says about our great nation. He's a 4 your bump in the road-we'll get him ou and get over it just like Jimmuh Cahtuh and LBJ.

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 01:47 pm
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Keep dreaming Jack, because

Keep dreaming Jack, because it's good to have dreams. Maybe you can transform them into goals and then get out there and work toward meeting those goals. And living in the most free country in the world allows us to do just that. We'll be against each other in 2102, but that's the pleasure of living in a democracy. And LBJ was a much better president than Jimmy Carter, but Jimmy is still a good man and a gentleman of the South. I respect them both, just like I respect Nixon and Reagan, but more so I respect Dwight Eisenhower.

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 02:57 pm
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I wonder if the author of

I wonder if the author of this LTE has a husband named Happy?

carcraft
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carcraft 05/01/10 - 04:20 pm
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Techfan and sjgraci..Where in

Techfan and sjgraci..Where in the constitution does the Federal government have the power to force me to buy insurance? I asked when the bill was being passed and am still waiting....

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 06:12 pm
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The federal government cannot

The federal government cannot force you to do anything. Don't buy the insurance if you don't have any coverage. Depending on your age and income, that's a gamble you're free to take. All the law can do is to make you pay a fee if you decline the coverage. So the choice is still yours not to buy insurance.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 05/01/10 - 06:25 pm
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GAterp, one minute you say

GAterp, one minute you say "All the law can do is to make you pay a fee if you decline the coverage." One breath before you say, "The federal government cannot force you to do anything. Isn't having to pay a fine some type of "Force"?

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 05/01/10 - 06:34 pm
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GAterp, I know most of my

GAterp, I know most of my post are based on lies so let me post some more lies:
A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the
United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived cancer five years after diagnosis:

U..S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":

U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age."

SHIP HIS BUTT TO CANADA OR ENGLAND !

He is "elderly" himself but be sure to remember his health insurance is different from yours as Congress has their own high-end coverage! He will never have to learn to accept "inconveniences"!!!

AND THE WINNER IS ... VERY INTERESTING!

the percentage of each past president's cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know what the private business sector is... a real life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt........ 38%

Taft.........................40%

Wilson .................. 52%

Harding..................49%

Coolidge.............. 48%

Hoover................. 42%

F. Roosevelt......... 50%

Truman.................. 50%

Eisenhower........... 57%

Kennedy.............. 30%

Johnson................. 47%

Nixon................... 53%

Ford..................... 42%

Carter.................. 32%

Reagan................... 56%

GH Bush.................. 51%

Clinton ................. 39%

GW Bush................ 55%

And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is:

Obama................. .........8% !!!

Yep! That's right! Only Eight Percent!!!..the least by far of the last 19 presidents!! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business? They know what's best for GM...Chrysler... Wall Street... and you and me?

How can the president of a major nation and society...the one with the most successful economic system in world history... stand and talk about business when he's never worked for one?.. or about jobs when he has never really had one??! And neither has 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers.! They've spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs....or as "community organizers" when they should have been in an employment line.

GOD HELP US!!

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 08:02 pm
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Cobalt, I suppose you could

Cobalt, I suppose you could elect to not pay the fine. That's another choice; but does not seem to be a smart one to make. And I do not know that all of your posts are lies (I do not remember saying that). Your statistics are very interesting; but I still think that President Obama is doing a fine job. I'm happy with his performance, and I would vote for him again.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 05/01/10 - 08:09 pm
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GAterp, more power to you as

GAterp, more power to you as long as you still have the freedom to vote the way you want or if there is still a voting process.

Some of the bill passed sure wasn't handled by a voting process.

GAterp
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GAterp 05/01/10 - 09:37 pm
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How can you say that Cobalt

How can you say that Cobalt when any bill that passes and becomes law has to go through a voting process in both houses of Congress? You just can't make things up as you go along because you are not happy with the outcome!

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