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“We can’t take justice into our own hands,” says one volunteer cleaning up after the destructive riots in Ferguson, Mo.

Absolutely. But as that great citizen showed, we can take healing into our own hands.

That was the spirit of a group of church-led volunteers who picked up riot debris and swept the streets after nights of protests and clashes.

It should be the spirit of America, too:

• Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

• Seek first to build and heal.

• Pitch in when and where you can, no matter how small the gesture. It makes our communities better, soothes our souls and salves society.

In a free country, your society is what you make of it.

Even amid runaway emotion and chaos, there can be bridge-builders. There can be healing, however slight.

This is a story that few will hear – that within the mess that was Ferguson, there were those who began picking up the pieces even before the conflict was over.

But that, more than what you’ve been seeing every night on TV, is the story of America. And it’s The Spirit of St. Louis.

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Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/20/14 - 05:15 am
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Al Sharpton Flying The Spirit of St. Louis

The problem is Charles Lindberg is not flying The Spirit of St. Louis. It's being flown by Al Sharpton and Co. who only know how to crash the plane instead of landing it safely. The lawlessness in Ferguson should be met with military action that tells the people the law will be upheld at all costs. These terrorist riots are based on a lie that too many are afraid to tell the truth about.

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Bizkit 08/20/14 - 06:28 am
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I note the media now hypes a

I note the media now hypes a War on Black men-I guess another Dem ploy like the War on Women? Well I do admit that the number of blacks that end up in prison is a disparity that needs addressing, but too many blacks are incarcerated because they commit crimes-which note all the looting and crime just as a reaction to Brown's death as proof. Too many black males with nothing to do but get in trouble. Even when I taught at a black historic college years ago I was struck at how motivated and a great work ethic in most of my females, but few males were motivated or even tried. Sadly these males with no ambitions impregnate this ambitious black females and you end up with too many single moms who are trying and struggling-my sympathies to black females. But the black males, many with huge potential, just didn't give a crap and even black faculty were disgusted with their lack of appreciation of the strides made that they have the opportunity for an education and the students sense of entitlement. Most of the black community realize their is a problem with their youth, but I freely admit this same phenomena is happening in the white community too. I thought socioeconomic factor of being poor was contributing, but now I think it is more dysfunctional family generational problems with little guidance or support.

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internationallyunknown 08/20/14 - 06:30 am
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Does anyone remember the

Does anyone remember the riots and protests during the Penn State mess???

As you guys can see, the people of Ferguson are fed up...and have been for a while.

Oh, and has anyone seen the FULL video from the QuickTrip? He paid for the Cigarillos. I'll post the link.

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internationallyunknown 08/20/14 - 06:32 am
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internationallyunknown
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internationallyunknown 08/20/14 - 06:36 am
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What? How about a systematic

What? How about a systematic approach to remove the black make figure from the black family structure.....please bone up on History.

There is a direct correlation among POVERTY and VIOLENCE.

Whites kill whites.
Blacks kill blacks.
Asians kill asians.

Black on black crime is a myth.

People seem to skip many important prices if History; which is the root cause.

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Bizkit 08/20/14 - 06:38 am
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I addressed this yesterday.

I addressed this yesterday. The video confirms the reports of the robbery-Brown doesn't reach for a wallet, doesn't reaching pocket, nothing in his hands till he reached over and started grabbing Swisher sweets that he hands to his friend-who returns to counter, and then Brown grabs more boxes of cigars and drops some. The register attendant called 911 while another employee tried to stop Brown from leaving. There is no exchange of money in this video.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 08/20/14 - 06:41 am
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Actually I think studies

Actually I think studies indicate that violence contributes to poverty-not the other way around.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/20/14 - 06:45 am
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Puzzling Premise

The false premise being voiced by some that Brown paid for the cigars is puzzling. They were previously arguing that the officer knew nothing about the robbery. They said Brown was only stopped for walking in the street. All the attempts to come up with something that disparages the officer have failed. Let's just tell the truth and then maybe we can heal and stop the violence.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 08/20/14 - 06:59 am
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River with the attitude of

River with the attitude of International and others trying to make this about blacks and social justice I don't think that is going to happen. Brown may have committed a crime, the police officer may have committed a crime too, but all the arm chair detectives are getting tedious and I'd just like to know the truth.

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hoptoad 08/20/14 - 07:12 am
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Bizkit, black males are more

Bizkit, black males are more aggressive mostly because they do not have a proper male model in their home to provide discipline and guidance. And they are continually fed the lines - whites owe black people because of slavery, you have a right to take what you want from whitey, and the worst is that they should not ACT white.

It doesn't help when their mother doesn't bother to counter those idiotic ideas.

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 07:18 am
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internationallyunknow

Please stop with the non-sense!! Youtube??? That's your "evidence" he paid for the cigars?? There is only ONE media outlet even reporting he might have paid for the cigars and that is the DailyKOS; and we know they never lie, right?? I watched the video of him "paying" for the cigars, which was the exact video the police release; but watch the movement of the camera recording; it's literally someone sitting on their couch at home, recording their television screen with a phone or video recorder, to make it APPEAR to be a new video!! How absolutely pathetic!!

Answer a couple simple questions; if he paid for the cigars, why did the stop owner try to stop him from leaving TWICE? Why did Michael Brown assault the owner, TWICE? If he paid for them, why wouldn't he remained there, and talk the situation through with the owner, until it was resolved?

The truth is, the left are scampering hard to spin and twist the video; because it's shows exactly what Michael Brown was, and that's a very large BULLY; who liked to throw his size and strength around to intimidate people!! He was a criminal and the only reason he didn't have a record is because he wasn't an adult long and his juvenile record is sealed!!

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 07:30 am
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internationallyunknown

"There is a direct correlation among POVERTY and VIOLENCE."

Yes, and there is a direct correlation between peoples FREE WILLED decisions (personal choices) and poverty!! People aren't in poverty because they're oppressed by society; they're there because of no personal drive to succeed and work their way out of poverty!!

I am a LE officer and my average salary is about 38k a year, depending on overtime!! I have some college, but no degree. My wife hasn't worked since 2005, when our first child was born; but is currently enrolled in college. On my LE salary, we make it quite well. I have a small home in a nice subdivision and have two decent vehicles, along with numerous other luxuries, such as the laptop I'm on.

My point is, if I can do it on 38k (Total household income) a year and no college education, ANYONE can do it!! If my wife were working, it would be like both of us making minimum wage, and WE MAKE IT!! And I've NEVER received help from ANYONE in my life. Matter of fact, I help my mother a lot!! I'm sick and tired of hearing about people being held down!! These people need to lace up their boots and get to work, working their way OUT of poverty!! No one will ever get them out of poverty except themselves!! Leftists and their promotions of the VICTIM mentality are the exact reason people act like this!!

Funny, if you look at all those poverty stricken folks in Ferguson; they're taking pictures and videos of the crowds with their Ipods, expensive camera's and on smart phones!! Drive expensive cars up and down the streets with VERY expensive sound systems and rims!!

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 07:35 am
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How is black on black crime a myth??

Do you mind telling that to the black folks in Chicago; being shot to death every single day by other blacks folks??

Oooh, I get it!! That's white folks fault too, because we've suppressed them into poverty; which causes them to shoot each other, so that's not their fault either!!

Yet another example of victim mentality!! Nothing is their fault, because they're victims of society!! So it's ok to steal from the store or anywhere else you want; because YOU are the victim!! It's Ok to fight with the police officer, because he is one of the main tools used, to oppress you victims!! Makes me want to PUKE!!

Slavery existed in the ENTIRE WORLD, long before it was practiced in America!! You and president O need to get the heck over it!! Why isn't this disgusting president talking about the WORLDS "tragic history"?? Because that wouldn't fit his bash America agenda, that's why!! No one has been a slave in 150 years!!! Yes, racism exists but it's FAR from mainstream!! Nobody is oppressing anyone!!

ELLIOTTMESS55
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ELLIOTTMESS55 08/20/14 - 07:39 am
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very good points made by
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very good points made by bizkit.i worked around black males for years also.i also feel sorry sorry for the females, for they have such a small pool of decent men to choose from.how many times have you seen the car pull into the parking lot and the woman gets out and the guy with his tank top and pajama bottoms drives off in her car while she goes to work?how many times have you stopped at a convenience store early in the morning to get gas,and see 3 b/males buying beer at 8am?every time we have one of these volatile situations as in ferguson,we hear the same broken record.hopelessness,despair,no jobs,no future.well folks,you can protest until doomsday and 20 yrs from now,nothing will have changed.no investor is going to invest in a high crime area.no one is going to build a plant or factory right across the street that you live on,no employer is going to take you seriously with one of those degrees from a fly by night college,that sprang up 5 years ago.solution?put the basketball down,turn the radio off,try getting a real education.we have enough entertainers,barbers,and rap wannabes to last us a lifetime.you want a future? go get it.go to where the jobs are,if you're serious.otherwise we'll here this record forever,while the same females procreate with these who have nothing to offer,but the same old song.

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cush1944 08/20/14 - 07:39 am
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"How about a systematic

"How about a systematic approach to remove the black make figure from the black family structure.....please bone up on History."
You are correct the Great Society, democrats and liberals have done a great job of removing the black male figure from the black family structure. But blacks went along with it for the small handouts from the gov't. Black leaders went along with it even in black churches where they taught how to qualify for more welfare.

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cush1944 08/20/14 - 07:48 am
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"It doesn't help when their

"It doesn't help when their mother doesn't bother to counter those idiotic ideas."
hottoad, the mothers have been brained washed as well. Blacks have been brain washed by the liberals, democrats and black leaders for the last 50 years. They give them a few hand outs for their votes. After integration black kids were far behind the white kids but instead bring the black kids up the public school brought the white kids down. The Great Society, democrats and liberals have created this mess.
There will be a race war one of these days.

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ELLIOTTMESS55 08/20/14 - 08:01 am
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disagree with you cush.most
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disagree with you cush.most of these families consist of a male,female,and illegitimate children.that is not a family.as i've said many times NO REAL man will let his wife,common law or legal live in a gov't project or accept sec 8.no real man would let others feed his children,give them free school supplies,watch them stand in lines and get free turkeys,free christmas gifts,free haircuts.and etc.no one with real pride wants anything given to them for nothing.this is a fad in this country now.blacks and whites,will take anything free,and have no shame using their ebt card,or standing in the lines at the food banks.no party can change that perception,or instill pride into those who never had any.

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itsanotherday1 08/20/14 - 09:52 am
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"These people need to lace up

"These people need to lace up their boots and get to work, working their way OUT of poverty!! "

Maybe a joke, but it is grounded in reality: I saw a picture/post that said a Payless shoe store in Ferguson was looted and they took everything but work boots...

internationallyunknown
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internationallyunknown 08/20/14 - 10:16 am
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Buying votes?

Most people living in poverty DO NOT VOTE.
The newer generation of African Americans do not vote...their response is: Why? Nothing has changed.

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dichotomy 08/20/14 - 10:20 am
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The video certainly DOES NOT

The video certainly DOES NOT show Brown paying for anything. No wallet, no money in hand, no money exchanged.

As for "the story of America".......the story of MY America would have included some dead bodies inside those looted and burned stores. MY America would never let the punks and thugs run wild with no consequences. In MY America the police and business owners would not cower and capitulate to thugs and looters.

This is y'alls America. MY America is long gone. Some say for the better.....I don't think so.

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faithson 08/20/14 - 10:59 am
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cush

the white people RAN !! I was high schooled by Catholics and the Public in the late 60's. There were very few 'private' school's around then. Desegregation in my senior year tore the system apart. The White people ran back to their 'madrasas' for their education, they did not want to stick it out with the blacks. With all those good families pulling out of the public system, what was to be expected, system failure, which by pulling out they pretty much accomplished.
I for one believe it is one for all and all for one. The leadership needed to guide desegregation integration was not there, the ideas of the higher culture were not taught because all the 'teachers' decided to take their toys and go home.

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 01:22 pm
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"Most people living in

"Most people living in poverty DO NOT VOTE."

Whose fault is that? I suppose it's societies fault?

"The newer generation of African Americans do not vote...their response is: Why? Nothing has changed."

And they're right; not much has changed!! In the 50's if you worked hard and strove to succeed in life, you usually did!!

In 2014 if you work hard and strive to succeed, you probably will. But that's also according to what an individuals definition of success is!! If buying a brand new car is success, then I've never succeeded, because I've never purchase a brand new vehicle!! If having a 3000 square foot home is success; I haven't reached it, as mine is only 1300 sq ft. If having EVERYTHING you've ever wanted, is success; I've yet to achieve success!!

If having a wonderful loving wife, decent job, wonderful children, a peaceful life and a few of the luxuries in life is success; I've obtained it, with less than 40k a year salary; which is NOT unreachable for anyone!

Now, if by "nothing has changed" they mean the government has yet to supply them with everything and fulfill their every single desire; then nothing is EVER going to change for them!!

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Angela H 08/20/14 - 11:16 am
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"As you guys can see, the

"As you guys can see, the people of Ferguson are fed up...and have been for a while."

Fed up with what exactly?

And as for "Most people living in poverty DO NOT VOTE." Where do you get that stat?

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 12:57 pm
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I believe the last count was

I believe the last count was 78 people arrested; and THREE from Ferguson!! The vast majority of those rioting OR protesting, are not even from Ferguson!! They're outside agitators, brought in by the New Black Kitty Cats; for the purpose of causing commotion!!

This has very little to do with the actual citizens of Ferguson being fed up!!

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burninater 08/20/14 - 01:00 pm
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It's like an anthropology

It's like an anthropology conference in here today.

"Oh, the Black male behaves like this, and the Black female, according to our studies, behaves like that, and Black children, well, they think this, and the Black community of course, yes, yes, they do this because of that ..."

I never knew you could tell so much just by looking at the color of a man's skin. It's almost like you don't need to know anything else about them to have already decided what is or is not true. Fascinating.

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 01:13 pm
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And what are they fed up

And what are they fed up with? I tried to find the information on the net, but couldn't; so I called someone who works for the FOP. In his records, Ferguson has not had any fatal police shooting prior to this one!

Now, if you're saying they're tired of being "harassed" by the police; maybe they should be made at their own neighbors, children, grandchildren, and the rest that make their neighborhoods "high crime areas". Because police concentrate patrols into high crime neighborhoods!

The police do NOT patrol an area and MAKE it a high crime area; they patrol areas BECAUSE they're high crime areas!! They concentrate patrols into areas where they receive the most calls for service or 911 calls, reporting crimes!! THIS, is what makes an area high crime; not the police themselves!!

So, who should the citizens of Ferguson be mad at? I would say their neighbors!!

myfather15
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myfather15 08/20/14 - 06:34 pm
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Burninator

"I never knew you could tell so much just by looking at the color of a man's skin."

Another shallow comment from you!! We're talking about peoples actions and character, not the color of their skin!!

"By their fruits, ye shall know them."

I do believe that means by what they produce or actions; not by the color of their skin!! But thanks for the shallow attempt at just another labeling of those who disagree!!

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Riverman1 08/20/14 - 01:36 pm
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Blacks Should Change Voting Pattern

"The newer generation of African Americans do not vote...their response is: Why? Nothing has changed."

They have a good point. They've been voting Democratic and are worse off. Maybe time for a change?

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Bizkit 08/20/14 - 01:43 pm
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It's insane Burn because we

It's insane Burn because we both know there isn't a biological race-and why the sociological one because of color is really ludicrous-genetic studies show gene flow between "races" prevents that nomenclature-but by geographical regions there are genetic pools-often with mixed colors. It reminds me of the Harry Nielson movie "The Point"-back in the 70's he and Ringo Starr made this cartoon movie with the plot everyone had a pointed head-and a point but Obleo who was round headed-then the adventure begins. Why not freckles-identify people as those with and those without freckles-freckles is a dominant trait so woe to thee without-your inferior LOL. It's about as ridiculous in my mind. We need to belly up we are all Americans and making comparisons by race are really moot-the majority of african-americans have european gene markers so they are we'll blended with our european influence-sadly we are behind sociologically and I don't understand why. If it isn't gene-nature then environment-nurture must have a dramatic influence. I have an interest in health disparities and initially I thought it was a lack of assess to health care-but that wasn't the case-socioeconomic factors seemed to have the most influence-nurture again. We seem to nurture our problems for often ridiculous reasons. But one thing I have become a stickler about is for law and order, equal protection, and equal penalties but I am a dreamer.

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burninater 08/20/14 - 01:43 pm
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"Another shallow comment from

"Another shallow comment from you!! We're talking about peoples actions and character, not the color of their skin!!"
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No myfather, these comments are not about the actions and character of people. Actions and character are individual behaviors -- they aren't what "Blacks" do, or what "Whites" do.

I'm not labeling. I'm describing how folks on the forum are literally behaving. If that description is personally uncomfortable, then perhaps that behavior should be reconsidered.

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