Enough is enough

Farcical IRS scandal has gone on too long; Congress needs to get tough

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We’ve had about enough of the Obama administration’s stonewalling of the investigation into the Internal Revenue Service’s illegal targeting of taxpayers.

So has Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas.

He recently filed a resolution demanding the House use a little-exercised power to arrest ex-IRS official Lois Lerner, the tight-lipped central figure in the scandal in which partisan bureaucrats singled out “patriot” and “Tea Party” organizations for red-tape scrutiny.

Lerner has refused to cooperate and was held in contempt of Congress in May. Her arrest would be a rare use of congressional powers, and probably would be taken as an extreme measure.

But this is a situation that calls for extreme measures. Justice needs to be served, and it’s apparent that House Republicans are going to have to take a do-it-yourself approach.

It’s obvious Attorney General Eric Holder is not going to lift a finger – he’s already in contempt of Congress for withholding documents in the botched Fast and Furious gun operation.

“Asking the Justice Department to prosecute Lois Lerner for admittedly illegal activity is a joke. The Obama administration will not prosecute the Obama administration,” Stockman said. “How much longer will the House allow itself to be mocked?”

And it’s obvious the IRS is in full cover-up mode. Just last week it was revealed Lerner sent emails to an IRS IT official on April 9, 2013 – just days after a draft Treasury inspector general report revealed the massive conservative-targeting scheme. Her e-mail asked whether the IRS internal chat system was searchable.

She was worried about the chat system because “Congress has asked for emails and there has been an electronic search for responsive emails – so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails.”

When the IT official replied that the IRS could have saved the conversations but chose not to, Lerner replied with one word: “Perfect.”

And then you have IRS Commissioner John Koskinen, whose contempt-soaked appearances before congressional committees have been absolutely insolent.

Whereas Lerner invoked her Fifth Amendment right, this Yale-trained lawyer has managed to say a lot without saying anything at all.

He’s slippery as soap, smug as a Mafia lawyer and patient as a pit viper – all qualities a combative witness wants to have when he is trying to stymie House Republicans’ attempts to get to the bottom of – or top of – the most foundation-shaking political scandal in a generation.

If the Obama administration’s goal is to see that this national disgrace goes no further than Lerner’s desk, then Koskinen is delivering service with a sardonic smile.

This is the man who, after taking a two-month pause, deadpanned to Congress that email records of Lerner and six other IRS employees connected to the scandal – records most likely to be smoking-gun evidence – were irretrievably lost in a hard-drive crash three years earlier.

When pressed on the my-dog-ate-it excuse, Koskinen had the nerve to tell U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., the House Oversight Committee chairman: “If you have a magical way to (make the emails appear), I would be happy to hear about it.”

Can this guy possibly thumb his nose more arrogantly?

He doesn’t seem to care how smarmy he comes across to a public that his bureaucrats hold to strict records-retention standards and seem to consider guilty until proven innocent.

Arizona Republic columnist Doug MacEachern said Koskinen sounds like a man heading a bully agency that knows it is untouchable as long as its big brother – who has said there is not a “smidgen” of corruption at the agency – is in the White House.

“Koskinen effectively declared that, protected by the White House, the IRS can do as it wishes – withhold evidence, tell lies and, probably, continue its merry practice of coming down hard on conservative groups that dare promote limited government or say unkind things about President Obama.”

Koskinen is an adept deflector. But he could be a bumbling, bean-spilling fool and members of the mainstream media still would find a way to soft-pedal an abomination where the most formidable arm of the federal bureaucracy was used to harass, intimidate and silence American citizens it deemed politically dissident.

These totalitarian tactics are what organizations such as Amnesty International decry when they occur in Third-World banana republics. Yet too many members of the press remain blinded to arguably the most patently un-American political scandal of our time – because the victims of this tyranny are conservative.

It’s depressing to consider that four decades ago, the media threw all its energy into bringing down the Nixon administration for merely considering things the Obama administration is actually doing.

The most aggressive that today’s media get is showing up to watch Koskinen’s pithy theatrics. They sit passively and watch the hand-picked head of a Treasury Department agency politely tell the U.S. House of Representatives – and American taxpayers – to shove it.

And some wonder why the House has to take such extreme measures.

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carcraft
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carcraft 07/22/14 - 04:28 am
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Well the House has a very

Well the House has a very simple solution, don't fund them, 25% cut to all IRs budgets. 50% cut to Learner's old stomping ground. Seems of late other agencies have had computer trouble also!

carcraft
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carcraft 07/22/14 - 04:28 am
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Well the House has a very

Well the House has a very simple solution, don't fund them, 25% cut to all IRs budgets. 50% cut to Learner's old stomping ground. Seems of late other agencies have had computer trouble also!

ymnbde
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ymnbde 07/22/14 - 04:56 am
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Stalin and Beria and Pravda could do no better

than Obama and Holder and the media
there are many Lois Lerners
and they must all feel secure that their crimes
will not be prosecuted...
well, for now

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/22/14 - 05:41 am
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Prison Unless Lerner Talks

Lerner should be warned that she will spend years in prison for ordering computer info to be destroyed unless she TALKS.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/22/14 - 05:54 am
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e-mail asked whether the IRS internal chat system was searchable

When you haven't done anything wrong this would not be a problem to you...

Amazing how much crap some believe......the castle in crumbling now.

cush1944
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cush1944 07/22/14 - 06:27 am
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“Asking the Justice

“Asking the Justice Department to prosecute Lois Lerner for admittedly illegal activity is a joke. The Obama administration will not prosecute the Obama administration,” Stockman said. “How much longer will the House allow itself to be mocked?”
I would bet even money that Lerner was taking orders from Valerie Jarrett.

hoptoad
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hoptoad 07/22/14 - 06:53 am
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The mainstream lap dog media

The mainstream lap dog media humps will continue to cover for the left wing, no matter who is in the office.

This is one of the greatest obstacles to overcome - the suppression of the truth of what is going on within our government.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/22/14 - 07:32 am
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Two points:..

Two points:

Does Congress have the power to arrest someone or must it be done through the Justice Department?

I heard yesterday that 20 more IRS people, to include the office in Cinncinnati, have had their computers crash as the other six had. What are the odds of something like that happening? Probable 1 in a gazzilion.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/22/14 - 07:44 am
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Funny how Obama and MSNBC

Funny how Obama and MSNBC demonize Fox. Now I've seen Presidents fuss about the press,but never attack a specific outlet. That should be a red flag only Fox is telling us the truth. Well if we can just hold on till Dems lose the Senate and Obama becomes a lame duck the remainder of his term. Now Obama is too much a mentally ill egomaniac so he won't be able to handle it and may just resign and move on. It has always been about him so if he can't rule supreme then he won't rule.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/22/14 - 07:51 am
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No rule of law will

No rule of law will precipitate mob rule. A country full of angry taxpayers being mocked by the IRS, that most already hold with disdain, could precipitate vigilante justice. That is why the IRS have all the weapons and ammo they have been buying up is that fear.now if the IRS is stupid to use those weapons against US citizens an all war between all the citizens and their govt will ensue.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 07/22/14 - 08:08 am
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Where was the outrage?

Sell weapons to Iran.
Sell chemical and biological weapons (including anthrax and bubonic plague) to Saddam Hussein and provide targetting information for him to use them. Sorry Kurds.
Plant a story in the NYT and use that as a reference to lie us into war (just a quick 6 month one that would pay for itself).
Operation Wide Receiver.
I've never, ever received any email from any Tea Party group having anything to do with "social welfare". It's 100% politics, 100% of the time, or begging for money so they can do more politicking. They filed under the wrong status if they want to be a political group, at least under the IRS rules. Of course they'd have to release the names of their donors of they filed properly and that's what they're deathly afraid of. Millions of dollars from big money donors and PAC's does not a "grassroots" organization make. They're afraid people will see behind the curtain.
FYI:IRS employees had a whopping 500 MB of server space. It was then sent to a tape backup facility where the tapes were overwritten every 6 months to save money and space. the NSA at Fort Gordon Probably could store every bit of info in the nation but all of our $$$$ has been going to the Military Industrial Complex and folks who spy on the world and us (you know, the ones you hate unless they build it here and bring in gobs of money), not the rest of the government. Face it, you'd gripe no matter what and follow every conspiracy theory there is about this President. You even got in on the birther bull. Give it a rest for awhile. It's supposed to rain today, it's not Obama's fault.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/22/14 - 08:08 am
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To cap it off

The IRS just issued a Bid to Degauss/ Erase and destroy 3200 Hard Drives.

UMMMMMMM!

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/22/14 - 08:13 am
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remember as long as Dirty Harry Has control of the Senate...

NOTHING passed in the House will get tot he floor in the Senate.
Harry Reid is in effect Obama's Stone Jackson of Political Protection.

Without a vote in the Senate the House can say all it wants. But it is NOTHING more than Talk.

faithson
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faithson 07/22/14 - 08:47 am
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That should be a red flag

That should be a red flag only Fox is telling us the truth
That is why the IRS have all the weapons and ammo
Biz, I know your more thinking than these statements would indicate.
Whole lot going on, but to buy into the political theater, hook line and sinker, completely on one side, without an iota of getting some prospective, just doesn't sound like your usual considered posts.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/22/14 - 09:15 am
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The evidence of the cover up

The evidence of the cover up AND the initial crime is already overwhelming. The problem is that the GUILTY parties control the UN-justice system. You know...the "we ain't doing nothing to protect white folks' and the TEA party's rights" Department of Justice.

Our Dictator-in-Chief has used his unelected government officials against the citizens. We should be in full blown armed revolt.

And BodTechfan...as usual....uses totally unrelated distortions to try to evade the topic. He apparently cannot see a difference between decisions of foreign policy and the use of federal government agencies to persecute it's own citizens for the political benefit of the Democrat party and it's socialist dictator leader.

All I can say to you "there is no scandal" Democrats is......do NOT complain when the other party regains power and puts the IRS, the FBI, the EPA, and OSHA on YOUR butt. You have no leg to stand on....not one. If this is allowed to stand, if the IRS gets away with this, I can assure you that it will come around to bite you in the butt one day. All citizens should be outraged about the targeting of ANY political group by government agencies. If you are not then that explains a lot about why we are going down the tube. Have a nice day comrades. Remember, your government is watching and WILL re-educate you if necessary. Look what they've already done to Bod.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/22/14 - 09:24 am
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BOD

Why don't you just copy and paste: Bush's fault, Bush lied, Bush did it, etc
I think the discussion is about the IRS!

hoptoad
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hoptoad 07/22/14 - 10:09 am
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I was born too soon to

I was born too soon to understand very much about technology devices, but when I was working I had to correspond by e-mail daily with different agencies. Our computer analyst told all of us that even if we deleted our correspondence, charts, or other work projects he would still be able to retrieve our info. Even if my personal computer hard drive crashed, my e-mails, etc. would be stored and retrievable on his server.

Also, I was under the impression that whatever we e-mail goes through an ISP server and is stored there for retrieval purposes. Does the IRS not go through an ISP? Or do they have their own little computer world?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 10:34 am
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Faithson...what did Biz say
Unpublished

Faithson...what did Biz say that was incorrect?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 10:37 am
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"I've never, ever received
Unpublished

"I've never, ever received any email from any Tea Party group having anything to do with "social welfare". "

A little self important aren't we Bod? Are you implying that since YOU didn't receive any of the emails, that they don't exist?

And I've never seen anyone blame the rain on Obama. I HAVE seen someone blame a hurricain on Bush though.

Darby
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Darby 07/22/14 - 10:58 am
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DeeS.....

"What are the odds of something like that happening? Probable 1 in a gazzilion."

.
When it was "suggested" that six, sophisticated, high-end IRS computers had "crashed", some mathematician calculated that to have that happen would be the statistical equivalent of one person winning the "Mega-Millions" lottery three times!

Now they claim that twenty (20) of their high priced machines have "bought the farm".

I suspect there isn't a math junkie on the planet that can work out that particular equation.

The American people are being played folks. Plain and simple!

You (we) are being screwed. Enjoy it!

KSL
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KSL 07/22/14 - 10:47 am
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Pond

He had a bunch of people in his family that did go to Tech, so he posted.

KSL
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KSL 07/22/14 - 10:54 am
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Darby

Not the kind we can enjoy.

jimmymac
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jimmymac 07/22/14 - 10:56 am
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REID
Unpublished

Harry Reid and Holder will have to go before anything meaningful will be done about any of the corruption at the IRS and other agencies.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/22/14 - 11:51 am
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@bod

Actually, Bod threw out a lot, but he is actually admitting the IRS scandal is for real.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/22/14 - 12:01 pm
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Yeah...he admits it, but then
Unpublished

Yeah...he admits it, but then goes on to rationalize it as being OK, because "someone else did it too." The usual ploy of the liberal.....justifying poor behavior by pointing to other's poor behavior.

carcraft
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carcraft 07/22/14 - 02:18 pm
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Faithson, What prespective do

Faithson, What prespective do you need? Lois Learner admitted she targetted conservative groups. Why , because an IG report was going to expose Lois Learners illegal activity. Now why would Learner say "perfect" when she learned her emails were safe from being given to congress. How could Obama know there wasn't a smidgen of corruption when Learner admitted what she had done? LOL how much of a perspective do you need?

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/22/14 - 02:56 pm
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Carcraft, facts don't matter

Carcraft, facts don't matter with some folks. Once they make up their mind it cannot be changed.

faithson
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faithson 07/22/14 - 03:38 pm
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Car

Why; Fox news and the AM crowd know exactly why, and they tell their listeners exactly what they want to hear... your being screwed by the IRS. Now upon further looking, if one so desires, it came to light that the rules were ambiguous as to the 'allowing' of these entities to spend on political issues to the degree they were. These entities were granted their 'exceptions' because they were supposed to be promoting the public good, not financing a political agenda with their contributions. Of course with all the supposed 'christian' bashing going on by this administration, Faux and the AM pundits found a perfect storm for further radicalization of the frenzied right. I am not saying there is no problem with the email thing. I am only saying that it sure seems like a lot of the prosecuted right have been drug down a rabbit hole by their media celebrities, who's monies come from keeping the 'chaos' coming. to many zealots for me. I like a stand apart and think for myself, even though one gets called all sorts of nasty things for doing so.

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corgimom 07/22/14 - 03:39 pm
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I've had 4 computers in 15

I've had 4 computers in 15 years, and the first 3 crashed. One day they'd be fine, the next day I'd get the dreaded blue screen.

I guess I'd be one of those one-in-a-gazillion that Dee Stafford talks about.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/22/14 - 04:19 pm
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Cogimon

Please let me know what kind of computer you purchase so I can avoid them. I have had my iMac for 10 years and never had it crash. If it did crash I don't think I would remove the hard drive and have it destroyed would you. You will except anything from the left that they tell you.

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