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Israeli teens' kidnapping and murder galvanizes nation under siege

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“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”

– Golda Meir, former Israeli prime minister

In the half-century of the bitter, bloody Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rarely has there been such a watershed moment.

The unprovoked kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens in June, apparently linked to Palestinian terror organization Hamas, shocked, horrified and unified the nation of Israel.

It should unify all civilized nations and peoples.

And while a Palestinian youth also has been murdered in retribution, it’s vital to note the vast difference in the way each of the two parties has handled the two atrocities: Israel has arrested suspects in the killing of the Palestinian boy; a Hamas spokesman, on the other hand, saluted the great “success” of the killing of the innocent and unarmed Israeli teens.

Not one of the killings is justifiable. But Israel’s defense of itself certainly is: After enduring sustained rocket attacks on its cities from Palestinian territories, and after seeing Hamas harbor and hail the Israeli teens’ murderers, Israel has had enough.

An email making the rounds on the Internet claims to be Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech on the subject. It’s not. It’s one Internet commenter’s fantasy about what Mr. Netanyahu should have said.

But the hypothetical speech speaks for many when it imagines Netanyahu expressing exasperation at the “ceaseless chidings” among some in the world for Israel to show restraint in the face of repeated rockets, murders and other violent provocations from Hamas.

And whereas their enemies have shown a proclivity for blowing themselves up without notice in order to kill Israeli citizens, Israel has gone so far as to drop leaflets warning Palestinian citizens that they risk harm to themselves by continued proximity to Hamas terrorists.

Israel already has shown more restraint than most nations ever would have, including this one. There is no moral equivalence between the two parties on this issue.

And there is no debating Israel’s natural and inherent right to self-defense.

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deestafford
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deestafford 07/15/14 - 11:18 pm
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Something scary is happening..

Something scary is happening. More and more of the world to include nearly the vast majority of college students and professors and some mainline churches are turning against Israel and its right to exist.

The General Assembly of the rotten, useless UN spends about 25% of its time passing and working on anti-Israel resolutions. There are numerous UN committees set up to do harm to Israel while there are none devoted to any other country.

Notice how the media has changed its tune toward Israel over the years. Now they do not lead their stories with the rockets being shot at Israel but with the number of "Palestinians" killed and emphasizing the number of civilians in order to gain sympathy for the "Palestinians".

Since the United States is too big and powerful for the world led by the UN can't really attack us they go after Israel who has America as its strongest ally.

Anti-Israel propaganda is causing numerous European countries to turn against Israel and Jews in general. There are even some instances of children in America schools being told to write papers proving that the Holocaust may not have happened.

Read some of the things being written and said in Europe and you'll understand how the holocaust happened and how one could happen again.

Why is this happening? I think it's because it's politically correct to believe the anti-Jew propaganda of the Islamists and an ignorance of history.

The Muslims will never rest until there is no longer a Jewish state in the Middle East...even if it were only the size of a postage stamp. There can be no peace with a religion whose main goal is to destroy you.

Our President is no friend of Israel and if the truth were known, he is on the side of the Muslims in the conflict. Everything he and Kerry have said and done indicate that.

As a result, Israel cannot trust or depend on the United States as long as Obama is president.

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ymnbde 07/16/14 - 04:42 am
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the Nazis live on

as does hatred of Jews
in the hearts of those 14th century Arabs
unable to adapt to the modern world
and the liberals in this country and the world
still try to make evil and common decency cohabitate
our modern world emerged largely from the cognitive abilities of Jews
yet many of us still mix the modern world with our primitive nature
seldom has one group been so right, and the other so wrong
and if we're not on the side of right, we're on the side of evil
and if we're on the side of evil, we're evil
as goes Israel, goes the modern world

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carcraft 07/16/14 - 05:35 am
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Well the Bible tells you how

Well the Bible tells you how Isreal will hated, reviled and surrounded by enemies in the last days. Russia and China are backing those going against Isreal. Of course for the Christian hating left this is all coincidence. But be warned!

deestafford
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deestafford 07/16/14 - 07:25 am
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Most of us see the hatred of Israel but....

Most of us see the hatred of Israel but what can we do about it?

Assume for a moment you are President of the United States. What would you do to to aid Israel and try to stop this anti-Israel juggernaut?

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hoptoad 07/16/14 - 07:39 am
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This should be absolute proof

that Mr. O is pro-Middle East. In his first few years many of us suspected he was muslim or at the very least a muslim sympathizer and we were shot down, told to shut up and were called lots of nasty names. While no one has ever seen him enter a mosque to pray to allah, his actions have spoken louder than words.

He has left Israel blowing in the wind and Mr. Netanyahu has had to bite his tongue and still be civil to this sorry excuse for a prez for fear of being totally shut off from any form of assistance (what little it is) from O.

And still the Hollywood crowd who are almost a majority of Jews - producers, directors, and and many, many actors - seem to close a blind eye to the treatment of their native land.

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Riverman1 07/16/14 - 08:36 am
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Public Opinion Swings Against Israel

DeeStafford brings up a good point. American public opinion is being manipulated against Israel. I was astounded when the Presbyterian Church national organization voted to divest of stocks of companies Israel uses in the occupied territories. I never thought I'd see a large Christian organization turn against Israel.

"The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) on Friday became the most prominent religious group in the United States to endorse divestment as a protest against Israeli policies toward Palestinians, voting to sell church stock in three companies whose products Israel uses in the occupied territories."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/21/presbyterians-narrowly-vote-to-dive...

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historylover 07/16/14 - 10:55 am
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Riverman1

That is a very upsetting event with the Presbyterians. I seriously thought that they would have been a much more conservative group of Christians, as they have been historically.

All very good comments on this subject, but I do have one question of DeeStafford.
Your quote above, " There are even some instances of children in America schools being told to write papers proving that the Holocaust may not have happened." Could you please give me a link to where you read this? This is something we must fight and stop from happening. Regardless of anyone's feelings on current events in the Middle East, we should never, ever let anyone forget the horror and truth of the Holocaust!

deestafford
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deestafford 07/16/14 - 11:16 am
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historylover, Go to Townhall.com and search...

historylover, Go to Townhall.com and search, "California Students Given Good Grades for Holocaust-Denial Essays" which was posted there yesterday. I wish I could post the link but my computer skills are lacking and that is one of the things I can't do.

historylover
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historylover 07/16/14 - 11:19 am
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Thanks Dee

Will do! Have a great day.

prov227
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prov227 07/16/14 - 11:32 am
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Control of the media ...

Who has the most control of the media? Wall Street and the central banking empire? We just need to be careful accepting everything fed to us through the media.

Darby
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Darby 07/16/14 - 12:03 pm
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"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more

than they hate us.”

Or more likely, when North Korea makes a manned landing on the surface of the Sun.

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corgimom 07/16/14 - 12:14 pm
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" There are even some

" There are even some instances of children in America schools being told to write papers proving that the Holocaust may not have happened."

It's called argumentative reasoning, Dee Stafford, and has nothing to do with being anti-Israel. In argumentative reasoning, the truth wins.

Please, Dee Stafford, quit believing nutcase blogs, and research the truth.

And THE TRUTH is that using that as a method of teaching argumentative reasoning teaches children THE TRUTH. There is nothing in that lesson that is anti-Israel or that teaches that the Holocaust never happened.

But there are people out there that try to spread that evil lie, and children need to understand what is really true.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/16/14 - 12:57 pm
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Cogimom, The spin by the teacher was that it was...

Cogimom, The spin by the teacher was that it was for critical thinking however the primary references given for the project were against the happening of the Holocaust. Some of them were even from Muslims sources.

Now, I'm all for critical thinking skills being taught and enhanced, but would not a better topic have been, "The minimum wage increases teenage unemployment. Present pros and cons in your essay."?

What do you think would have happened if he assigned as the essay topic, "The Muslim religion is a gutter religion founded by an illiterate pedophile."?

Of course it would have and it would have been a useful exercise to study the impact of the minimum wage on teenage umemployment rather than wasting time on an anti-Jew meme put forth by the Muslims.

I would bet money that the teacher is not sympathetic toward Israel.

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curly123053 07/16/14 - 01:09 pm
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Argumentative Is Cloudy Teaching

Argumentative teaching is one way our Government schools indoctrinate and try to confuse the facts of history. When I was in school in the 1960's and 1970's true history was taught without blurring the facts. The argumentative method is a lot similar to the common core method of adding 2+2 to get to the truth. The Government schools job is to indoctrinate our kids to think like the government and does not serve a good purpose for our kids.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/16/14 - 02:36 pm
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I would bet money that would

I would bet money that would be a lesson that the kids don't forget, and that's what you want as a teacher.

To think that an entire group of teachers- it wasn't just one- are not sympathetic towards Israel, without a shred of evidence, isn't appropriate. Why would you think that?

They were given assignments of information to support both sides. What is the other side of the impact of minimum wage on teen employment? It makes it harder for teenagers to get a job, but what's the opposite of that?

In my California high school- 40+ years ago- we had a mock Nuremburg war criminal trial, where some kids had to play Nazis and say what the Nazis said, including that the Holocaust didn't happen.

And everybody knew that it wasn't real, it was PRETEND, and nobody thought that any teacher in the school was pro-Nazi or anti-Jewish. I guess in today's world, somebody would've made a big deal over that, too, and thought it was serious.

Teenagers understand when something isn't real, and they know when a big deal is made over nothing, without knowing all the facts.

It has gotten to the point where SOMEBODY isn't happy about EVERYTHING, and everything is supposed to be PC, and not offend anybody, ever.

Darby
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Darby 07/16/14 - 03:17 pm
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Unfortunately,

the vast majority of our current teacher crop received their "Education" degrees from the many of same folks who were spitting on Vietnam vets, burning cars and blowing up buildings in protest and rioting during the 1968 Chicago Democrat Convention.

It's no small coincidence that conservatives do not receive the Nobel Peace Prize or the Pulitzer Prize. Look at the crowd who present the awards.

Our kids today come away from school having "learned" that America is a "bad" country. That Columbus brought syphilis to our shores which when combined with a deliberate attempt to spread smallpox helped decimate the American Indian (not Native American) population. (He then spread tobacco to Europe, killing millions.)

That white Anglo-Saxon heritage brings with it a burden of guilt that can never be excused, overcome or erased. That conservatism is evil and "progressivism" is good.

It's not enough to home-school or send our kids to private school. Unless conservatives deliberately infiltrate our school system as liberals have done, from Pre-K through 12, then American freedom and America's fortune will continue to atrophy.

And the indoctrination of our children will continue unabated!

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faithson 07/16/14 - 04:01 pm
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you want someone to HATE you...

Kill their children... no if's and's or but's.
Four children from one Palestinian family were killed by Israeli shelling of a Gaza beach Wednesday. The boys, ages 9 to 11, died from shrapnel wounds and burns... Gaza’s health ministry says more than 200 people have been killed in fighting, 37 of them children. buzzfeed.
MY religion calls me to have compassion. All I know is that peace loving people who find violence anathema see this carnage as a result of a nationalist government that puts its nationalism ahead of compromise. Like so many my way or the highway attitudes that prevail in politics today, no good comes from a righteousness that cannot bend to the FACTS on the ground.

faithson
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faithson 07/16/14 - 04:09 pm
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Darby

Your off the wall comments on our teachers and their instructional skills is offensive. My daughter and many of my friends are teachers. I am of a mind that all you have done is parrot some pundits talking points, not based in FACT, but in support of an attitude that chicken little would embrace. I would be interested to know where you and your ilk come up with your conclusions, obviously not from personal experience.

deestafford
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deestafford 07/16/14 - 04:34 pm
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faithson, And Israel is supposed to just sit there...

faithson, And Israel is supposed to just sit there and let Hamas, whom the people voted for, shell the country?

The lack of compassion comes from the Hamas leaders as they attack Israel with rockets and would do it with ground troops if they had the capability.

I don't understand how someone can be so "compassionate" and not understand that the leaders in the Gaza strip, Hamas, and PLO are responsible. Why do you think they set up rocket launching sites in neighborhoods? It's knowing that Israel will do all it can not to cause civilian casualties but there are times when the enemy causes you to attack resulting in collateral damage.

Understand. War is not sterile, clean, and without people getting killed. If people don't like what is happening to them they should not elect people they know are going to fire rockets into Israel.

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jimmymac 07/16/14 - 05:01 pm
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HAMAS
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Hamas runs the Gaza Strip and has asked Palestinians to stay in buildings to die after they're notified that Israel is going to bomb them. Israel is doing whatever it can to notify them to flee before they bomb. Hamas is firing hundreds of rockets into Israel and don't care a snap what they hit. You cannot reason with radical Muslims so Israel has quit trying.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/16/14 - 05:36 pm
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The reason Palestinian
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The reason Palestinian children were killed in Israel's attack is because despite the warnings that Israel gave to leave, Hamas insisted that the children stay as human shields. Now you can defend this practice all you want. I notice you never mentioned WHY Israel shelled them.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/16/14 - 05:42 pm
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"Your off the wall comments
Unpublished

"Your off the wall comments on our teachers and their instructional skills is offensive. "

Name one "off the wall comment" that was posted that is not true, and prove it is not true. Sorry if the truth offends.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 07/16/14 - 05:45 pm
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"But there are people out
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"But there are people out there that try to spread that evil lie, and children need to understand what is really true."

And assigning children the job of proving that the lie is true helps how?

faithson
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faithson 07/16/14 - 05:48 pm
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u missed the point... HATE

kill the children and they will be your enemies for a generation. all propositions otherwise being mute in the final analysis.

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faithson 07/16/14 - 07:01 pm
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watch the news...

see the despair on the parents and families faces... has to be a better way than just 'they deserve what they get'.....
where is the 'Christ' in that............

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Bodhisattva 07/16/14 - 08:14 pm
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There's a big difference between anti-Israel and Anti-Zionist

Is there any particular reason everyone glosses over the terrorist beginnings of the state of Israel? Of course the Chronicle will ignore history that doesn't fit the propaganda it's trying to spew. Lord Moyne. the British Minister of State for the Middle East in 1944? How about his driver? Assassinated by the Lehi, a militant Zionist terrorist group. The King David Hotel, the site of the British administrative headquarters for Palestine? Bombed by the militant right-wing Zionist Irgun, killing 91 and injuring 46. Just 2 of the many terrorist acts by many of the right wing Zionist terrorist groups in Palestine pushing for the formation of an Israeli state. Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister Yitzhak Rabin, assassinated when he tried to work for peace, by an Israeli right wing ultranationalist. Over 500,000 Israelis live in settlements that are considered illegal under international law. They make up 13% of the population, but control 86% of the land. Since 1994, just in Hebron, Israelis have forced 1,829 Palestinians owned businesses to close. When the state of Israel was "created" (Sort of like the UN saying that Georgia had to give the state back to the Creeks and the Cherokees. Tough luck, move out.), The Guardian newspaper wrote, the Palestinian exodus is "widely described" as having involved ethnic cleansing. Israel is far from free of havng blood on its hands as it was born of terrorism and by forcing the removal of a native population. The current leaders are not much different than those from back then.

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Gage Creed 07/16/14 - 09:22 pm
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Darby
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Darby 07/17/14 - 01:00 am
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"Your off the wall comments on our teachers

and their instructional skills is offensive. My daughter and many of my friends are teachers. I am of a mind that all you have done is parrot some pundits talking points, not based in FACT, but in support of an attitude that chicken little would embrace. I would be interested to know where you and your ilk come up with your conclusions, obviously not from personal experience."

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Faithson - You poor soul... Go back and read my comments. I implicated the "vast majority" of America's teachers. That statement alone left you an "easy out" for your daughter had you elected to take it.

I stand by every word I've said. I served as a school board "advisor" on more than one occasion. I don't read or listen to "pundits". I have however, sat in classrooms and gone on more field trips with my kids and grandkids than I care to count. I have listened to the brainwashed induced pap that far too many teachers regurgitate.

At one point, when my son was attending Richmond Academy, he was told by his male social studies teacher that he need not respect or follow my (or his mother's) instructions. The "teacher's" validation for that ridiculous statement was that because my son did not ask to be born, he was a free spirit and could make his own decisions.

I confronted the alleged "teacher" within 24 hours, in the presence of the school principal, and informed him that he would admit his mistake to my son and never again presume to offer him personal advice of any kind. He and the principal both agreed to my demands and admitted that he had stepped over the line.

And "Chicken Little"? Where did THAT come from? Now, that's funny. I'm a combat Infantry veteran with thirty years service. You feel free to call me anything you like, but "chicken" somehow just doesn't fit the paradigm.

You have a nice day....

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Darby 07/17/14 - 01:06 am
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Bod -

"Is there any particular reason everyone glosses over the terrorist beginnings of the state of Israel?"

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Probably for the same reason that you don't hear a lot of folks condemning Nat Turner for his terroristic actions.

Both were done for the right reasons. If I were a member of a race or religion or sect that had recently seen six million of my kind murdered just because of who they were, I'd be ready to kill anyone who stood in the way of my freedom and security.

BTW - The nation state of Haiti ALSO had it's genesis in terrorism. Unfortunately, they haven't had the economic success of Israel.

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You can't always find someone else to fight your battles for you, Bod.

faithson
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faithson 07/17/14 - 05:13 pm
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the sky is falling, 'chicken little'...

I sorry if you thought otherwise. I am aware of many problems down at Richmond Academy over the years. I had one daughter at RC who decided that she would not do any homework, not take a test and just sit in class for a grading period. She got a B. Personally I blame a lot of the problems in the Richmond County system on Larken. He was such a horrible leader. But, throwing out the baby with the bathwater doesn't work for me. I know some teachers down there are doing their level best to do right by the students. I do wish that there was more accountability put on the teachers to 'produce'.

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