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Immigration issue is poison for Republicans this year

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It’s no longer enough to just turn a blind eye to the more than 11 million people living illegally in this country. The new Homeland Security chief says the nation now has an obligation to make them citizens.

“An earned path to citizenship for those currently present in this country is a matter of, in my view, homeland security to encourage people to come out from the shadows,” Jeh Johnson recently said to a meeting of the U.S. Conference of Mayors in Washington, D.C.

“It is also, frankly, in my judgment, a matter of who we are as Americans to offer the opportunity to those who want to be citizens, who’ve earned the right to be citizens, who are present in this country – many of whom came here as children – to have the opportunity that we all have to try to become American citizens,” he said.

That’s right. One of the nation’s top law enforcement officials believes people who entered the United States illegally, and continue to break the law on a daily basis by remaining here, have “earned the right” to be citizens.

How?

And haven’t we Americans “earned the right” to see our existing immigration laws rigorously enforced?

What other nation in the world would seriously entertain citizenship demands from people who have slipped into the country illegally?

What other nation fails to enforce immigration laws already on the books? If there is one, how could it approach the epic level of America’s failure?

What would any other nation call tens of thousands of foreign nationals streaming across its borders with impunity year after year? An invasion.

Johnson’s remarks, one of his first public speeches since being confirmed as the Obama administration’s secretary of homeland security in December, appear to support amnesty – the key plank in Democrats’ “immigration reform” plan.

Republican House Speaker John Boehner late last week outlined his own principles for retooling immigration – all while carefully avoiding the “A” word. He actually should avoid the issue altogether.

U.S. Rep. John Fleming,
R-La., correctly called any
attempt at forward motion on
immigration this year “a suicide mission for Republicans.” Why on Earth should Republicans help Democrats shift the focus of national debate away from the Obama administration’s spectacularly failed attempt at a health-care overhaul?

As for amnesty, it simply would encourage more people to disregard the law and enter the country illegally. If that’s the administration’s idea of reform, what’s the point in having a U.S. Border Patrol, or several of the other two-dozen agencies within Homeland Security’s $60 billion annual budget?

Amnesty is not reform. Amnesty is not the right thing to do. Offering a “path to citizenship” for lawbreakers cheapens the citizenship of every U.S.-born citizen or naturalized citizen who went through the proper – and legal – process.

“Immigration reform” is just the Democrats’ attempt to add millions of voters to its ranks by handing out citizenship like candy thrown from a parade float. Why else would they choose to devote so much energy to an issue that – according to a recent Gallup poll – only 3 percent of Americans believes is a “top priority?”

The 2016 election might serve as a clue.

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specsta
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specsta 02/03/14 - 01:40 am
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Two-Faced

A lot of folks had no problem with "illegal immigration" when it involved the Middle Passage and the free slave labor of Africans.

Why is this? Because that "illegal immigration" made a lot of people very wealthy - wealth born on mutilated backs, raped women, lynchings and murders.

Now, for some strange reason these same type of folks have raised the pitchforks and lit the torches over "illegal immigration".

Why is this?

Because there is no money to be made on an influx of immigrants who must be treated as human beings, provided social services and educational services.

It is all about the money. Pure GREED.

I would bet my front teeth that if slavery were still legal, this country would open its arms so wide for an influx of free labor, it would probably bust open the planet.

ymnbde
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ymnbde 02/03/14 - 06:50 am
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specsta, that is the worst post ever

even in anonymity, no person should post something so vile
your comments show the worst qualities in humans
and the worst qualities in humans are what allowed slavery to happen
an emotionally healthy adult does not stoop to such depths
you do your political persuasion no good when you write such ignorant comments
but, write away...
because if you were a football player
and you couldn't catch, you couldn't throw, you couldn't block you couldn't tackle you couldn't kick you couldn't run
i'd certainly want you on the other team
so play way

carcraft
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carcraft 02/03/14 - 07:11 am
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We have millions of American

We have millions of American citizens that can't get a job. Why legalize millions more competing for those jobs? The left screams about "living wages " yet wants to encourage more people to come here and work at less than minimum wage by granting amnesty to those who are here illegally. Then they wonder why there aren't jobs. One of the hardest hit groups (for those playing the race card) are young black males. Last time we granted amnesty it was for 4 million, this time 12 million, what will it be next time? 30 million? FIX THE BOARDER, DEPORT THE CRIMINALS THEN I WILL "THINK ' about a worker's permit and a license to stay

ymnbde
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ymnbde 02/03/14 - 08:11 am
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colonialism in action

perhaps we could have two classes of citizen?
a class that would only have the job skills
for low wage, high exertion, employment?
their children would be given two free meals per day
and a bag of food for weekends
and a magic card for even more
but they would be educated only well enough
to read simple words and do simple math and basically
given just enough for basic everyday necessities and survival
so they can vote when, where, and what we need them to
and they would always be dependent on government
and always in fear of losing their meager, but sufficient, sustenance?
oh, wait, we already have that class
never mind! the bureaucracy is hungry!
bring more third world nations to our table!
let the bureaucrats feast!

corgimom
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corgimom 02/03/14 - 08:36 am
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Specsta, until

Specsta, until Reconstruction, the vast majority of people lynched were white. And even during Reconstruction, out in the Western US, the vast majority of people lynched were white, too.

As for slavery making a "lot" of people wealthy, in 1860, only 1.4% of the US population owned slaves, and most of those people were not wealthy.

Please learn your American history.

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Bodhisattva 02/03/14 - 09:01 am
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What kind of President would grant amnesty to illegals?

"We have consistently supported a legalization program which is both generous to the alien and fair to the countless thousands of people throughout the world who seek legally to come to America. The legalization provisions in this act will go far to improve the lives of a class of individuals who now must hide in the shadows, without access to many of the benefits of a free and open society. Very soon many of these men and women will be able to step into the sunlight and, ultimately, if they choose, they may become Americans."

Just the Holy GOP President and Republicans’ attempt to add millions of voters to its ranks by handing out citizenship like candy thrown from a parade float.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 02/03/14 - 09:10 am
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Maybe the question the

Maybe the question the Republicans should be asking is if they have the right policies and message for America, why on earth would people vote for Democrats. And please don't insult potential supporters of the GOP with the usual "low information voters, takers, lazy, government teet-suckers."

With so many principles on immigration being floated, at this point I reserve my support for any. However, this editorial reflects what I have long suspected: The GOP makes policy based on how those policies can ensure they can stay in power. They will do it by changing voting laws or opposing immigration and the good of the country is only a second thought.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/03/14 - 09:11 am
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Something has to be done

Think--think think...sit on your hands & do NOTHING & the Dems will put in a plan that won't work....just like health reform...

The children here in the USA don't know anything but the USA....some came as babies & some were born here...yes, I know we have to secure the borders, no doubt about that.

We need a plan, so let the Reps come up with something.

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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 09:15 am
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Humans have immigrated all

Humans have immigrated all over the planet and mixed genes (gene flow) so its expected. Now is the hispanic migration next will be allowing all the jihadist terrorist citizenship because we can't profile or discriminate against anyone in America. Next the DOJ will invite Al Qaeda to open their headquarters here-like the UN. If we do allow all the "illegal immigrants" who broke federal law a free pass then Holder and DOJ will have to set free all prisoners who have broken federal laws-otherwise it would be discriminatory and Holder can't have that.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 09:19 am
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Obama got elected with the

Obama got elected with the rhetoric of "hope and change" something he never really described any details-that and his promise to be honest and transparency. Of course all blatant lies but it got him elected and re-elected, but that moron Bush got elected twice two. I guess Dems and Reps have to get bit twice before they realize their mistakes.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 09:35 am
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I can't wait for illegal

I can't wait for illegal immigrants to be make citizens with no criminal record because now I will be ably to get those pesky felonies expunged off my record. I can take it all the way up to the SCOTUS pleading discrimination=seems like a slam dunk for me and others who figure it out. Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/03/14 - 09:55 am
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Rove's unintended irony

Remember Karl Rove's prediction that the U.S. would soon have a "permanent Republican majority"? How's that turning out, y'all????
I really enjoy reading in this forum the posted howls of white Southern conservatives on whom it is slowly dawning that Rove had it exactly backwards. The U.S., propelled by the inexorable demographic forces of new Hispanic and Afro-American voters, is actually moving rather quickly to a permanent Democratic majority. You posters can wail and moan all you want, but in the end, white Southerners as a serious factor in presidential elections will soon be history.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 02/03/14 - 10:00 am
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1.4% is a fudged number

I found one source for that, and on a pretty creepy site. The number works if you count every man, woman, and baby in the entire country. 8% of the FAMILIES in the country owned slaves but in the majority of the states there were ZERO slave owners. In South Carolina, 46% of the families owned slaves, in Georgia it was 37%. In SC, 57% of the population were slaves (the highest percentage in the nation), in GA, 44%. THAT tells the true story. That's the real history. Trying to average in free states and babies doesn't cut it. The south was awash in slaves.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/03/14 - 10:13 am
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Heed the words of eel

"actually moving rather quickly to a permanent Democratic majority"

THAT is happening as we speak, so get away from your "My way or the highway thinking"...please....the extremes on both sides will sink any election. imho

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 10:16 am
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African-american votes had

African-american votes had little to do with Obama's election. The majority of blacks live in States that didn't support Obama (so even if they supported Obama it didn't help), except North Carolina, Florida, Virginia, DC. The vast majority of african-amerians live in states that supported Mitt (GA, Ala, Miss, LA. supported Mitt about half of Tex., Ark, Tenn. have high black populations and went Mitt. ).

teaparty
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teaparty 02/03/14 - 10:18 am
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"I would bet my front teeth

Unpublished

"I would bet my front teeth that if slavery were still legal, this country would open its arms so wide for an influx of free labor, it would probably bust open the planet."
The real sad part is specsta really does believe what he/she is saying. It seems that He/she's mind has been poisoned against whites and this country but he/she fits in with Obama. Obama's mind was poisoned by the racist, child molester 'Frank' Marshall Davis. Many white people died and many more shed blood to free the black people from slavery.
We all should be very glad that we live in the greatest county in history no matter how we got here.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 10:22 am
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I don't think Rove has much

I don't think Rove has much clout in the Rep party-he works for Fox and isn't a major player in the party (thankfully). He's pretty comical with his little board and talking points. Michael Steele works for MSNBC and isn't a major player in the party. No matter how much disdain people have for either party polls indicate most people like a balance of power and do not want one party control. That's why there is a tea party-extremes attract extremism.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 10:28 am
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The racist are always

The racist are always obvious-they are the first to mention "race" as a "factor". If race is the last thing that comes to mind then feel relieved.
Anyone who is dependent on permanent govt handout will obviously vote Dem, and anyone who will get business or tax breaks will likely obviously vote Rep. Sad state of affairs.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 10:33 am
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Sad that the population has

Sad that the population has been hoodwinked into believing we need to be divided. Seems to me the best way to resolve conflict isn't to increase the divide and polarize more. Seems Obama is intent on increasing the divide by making the richer more rich with his policies, and also increasing the population living in poverty with his policies. That is the state of affairs no matter his rhetoric (which who can believe anything he says).

teaparty
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teaparty 02/03/14 - 10:34 am
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"is actually moving rather

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"is actually moving rather quickly to a permanent Democratic majority"
EEL, I agree. The moochers are beginning to outnumber the working class. There is an article today in the Washington Post saying 50% of black men between 20 & 24 are unemployed.

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owensjef3 02/03/14 - 10:35 am
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Simply not true Biz

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Simply not true Biz

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/03/14 - 10:46 am
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Like a Dem would know

Like a Dem would know "truth". Really, really, really?????? You mean "period" don't you?

deestafford
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deestafford 02/03/14 - 11:10 am
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Let me ask a question here....

Let me ask a question here. There are 6+ billion people in the world. How many of them should we allow to come here just because they want a better life? 10 million? 20 million? 100 million? 300 million? 1 billion? Just how many are we to allow here?

There is NO RIGHT of ANYONE in the world to come here just because they live in a country that is a shambles!

Immigration should be for the benefit of the host country not to bail out socialist country hellholes that can't provide for its people.

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Jon Lester 02/03/14 - 11:13 am
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You know most of them are Catholic, don't you?

The blanket assumption that most immigrants from Mexico would vote straight-Democrat is condescending at best.

Republicans don't have a Mexican problem. They're losing the votes of thinking white American citizens as a direct consequence of their rhetoric and actions.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/03/14 - 11:13 am
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those "moochers"....

Thank you, teaparty, for digging yourself and your fellow conservatives into an even deeper hole. Calling the poor, whose ranks include many hispanics and blacks, "moochers" is a form of name-calling guaranteed to make those voters even more resentful of economically well-off white Americans, and thus even more determined to show up at the polls and vote Democratic. You are echoing Mitt Romney and his "47%" comment, and you know how much that helped the conservative cause.
So, teaparty, keep the name-calling coming. You are the kind of conservative we liberals are counting on the speed the arrival of the "permanent Democratic majority."

deestafford
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deestafford 02/03/14 - 11:19 am
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Let's look at previous comments of ...

Let's look at previous comments of that "Lion of the Senate" Ted Kennedy who put us on this immigration road of destruction:

Ted Kennedy on the 1965 Immigration Bill which he authored: "This bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission."

Ted Kennedy on the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Bill: This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1--1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure our borders hencesforth. We will never bring forth another amnesty bill again."

Ted Kennedy (2007) on the McCain/Kennedy Immigration Proposal: "The plan will strengthen our borders and our national security while providing a tough but fair path to citizenship for millions of people."

With liars like Kennedy in positions of power, and they did not disappear with his death, we have no chance of believing anything coming from the other side and their pro-immigration rhetoric.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/03/14 - 11:22 am
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"many are we to allow"?

Well, deestafford, looks like you've got yourself on the horns of a real dilemma. Either the hispanic hordes continue to come and change the U.S. into a place you clearly would be uncomfortable living in, or the U.S. adopts policies to keep them out (and sent them back?), policies which would be so politically unpopular that no conservative president would ever again be elected. I feel your pain, I really do....

teaparty
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teaparty 02/03/14 - 11:28 am
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"You are echoing Mitt Romney

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"You are echoing Mitt Romney and his "47%" comment, and you know how much that helped the conservative cause."
Romney knew that it was a snowball's chance in hell that the moochers were going to vote for him. The good news is the moochers are too lazy to work many are also too lazy to vote.
When the democrats collapse our economy the moochers will be rioting in the streets.

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dichotomy 02/03/14 - 11:37 am
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Try going to Mexico illegally

Try going to Mexico illegally and getting "social services". And it's not just Mexico. We cannot support all of South America. We cannot support them financially, we cannot support them with social services, and we have an administration that even refuses to enforce basic laws on them. We have drug cartels taking control over significant portions of American ground along out border areas. Yeh, I'm for immigration reform.....in the form of armed troops protecting our borders with orders to shoot to kill. When you've sealed the borders, THEN I'm willing to discuss what to do with the ones already here....but not until.

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deestafford 02/03/14 - 11:44 am
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There is a difference in today's immigrants and those of the...

There is a difference in today's immigrants and those of 100 years ago. For the most part they are not coming here for opportunity as much as they are for the welfare and entitilements. Nor do they want to assimulate. They want their own enclaves and this has been going on for generations.

America no longer resembles a melting pot as much as it does a mosaic.

We are really taking in more refugees than we are immigrants. Of the Hispanics 3/4 support big government; 70%-77% voted democratic in the last election; and 65% say they want racial preferences in colleges and employment. Why is the Republican leadership supporting amnesty when their constituents oppose it? Is it because of big donor interests such as the Chamber of Commerce and the like?

Some say by letting the Hispanics "come out of the shadows" they will work and pay taxes and carry their weight. There are no studies showing Hispanics pay enough taxes to overcome the amount of money they receive in welfare/government payments.

What about "the children who were brought here by their parents? They are not to blame for the actions of their parents. Should we ship them back to a country they don't know?" Well, if we let them stay does this mean their parents stay? How about their grandparents? Their brothers and sisters? Aunts and uncles? Cousins? Where does this stop?

What we are facing is a catastrophe. We have a combination of inflowing dependents and an outflowing of taxpayer money with the welfare base broadening and the taxpayer base being decimated.

The idea that immigration will be fixed when illegals "can work and pay taxes" is belied by looking at the example of California. From the mid 1980's to 2005 its population grew by 10 million, while welfare receipients grew by 7 million and income tax filers grew by 150,000 and the prison population grew by 115,000.

Is that the future of the rest of the country if we listen to the Democrats and other immigrant sympathizers?

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