Editorial: First, ID the real problem

Voter identification debate can't advance unless real motives revealed

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In a nation chock full of disingenuous political dialogue, it doesn’t get much more egregious than liberal assertions about voter ID laws.

According to the left’s well-worn songbook, such laws “disenfranchise” minorities and “suppress” the poor, as if the notion of asking someone to prove who they say they are is equivalent to Jim Crow-era literacy tests and poll taxes.

Anyone with the slightest interest in eliminating voter fraud – and protecting the one-man, one-vote principle this republic was founded on – should speak up and stop the music to this tired old tune.

Today, where proof of identity is required for everything from driving a car to opening a bank account, it’s silly to assume vast numbers of poor or minority voters are without a photo ID. And for those who are, it’s simply an insult to insinuate they are incapable of obtaining one.

How many times does that have to be said?

The left’s ham-fisted argument that ID laws violate individuals’ “voting rights” is subterfuge to mask their real intent: allowing rampant election fraud to continue in heavily Democratic districts nationwide.

Voter ID laws, such as those in Georgia and a handful of other states, have been back in the news since a Pennsylvania state court judge struck its law down earlier this month, saying it “unreasonably burdens the right to vote.”

Gov. Tom Corbett disagreed with the ruling but has not said whether proponents will seek an appeal to the full commonwealth or state supreme courts.

ID laws have popped up in the proposed Voting Rights Amendment Act of 2014, which seeks to establish a new formula that requires states with a history of voting discrimination to seek federal approval for any voting changes they make. The previous formula in the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was struck down last year by the Supreme Court.

The new system would include Georgia, Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana but exclude Alabama, Arizona, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia and Florida. However, voter ID laws would be exempted as a violation, largely a measure to win Republican support for the mostly Democrat-backed bill.

Such laws “are essential to protecting the integrity of our electoral process, and when properly drafted do not have a discriminatory intent or effect,’” said James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the bill’s sole Republican sponsor.

Voter ID laws are not yet widespread, but voter fraud is. To date, 46 states have reported prosecuting voter fraud cases.

Research commissioned in 2012 by the Pew Center on the States showed approximately 24 million – or one of every eight – voter registrations in the United States are invalid or significantly inaccurate, with nearly 3 million people having registrations in more than one state and nearly 2 million deceased people still on voter rolls.

Why would anyone purporting to favor free and fair elections resist attempts to clear up these errors with a simple ID card?

Georgia accepts six forms of photo ID as proof of identity, ranging from expired drivers’ licenses and student ID cards to government employee ID badges and military IDs. Anyone without such an ID can receive a special “voter ID” card for free.

The left’s puffery that each state has potentially hundreds of thousands of ID-less voters (the Brennan Center for Justice claims as many as many as one in 10 U.S. citizens is without a photo ID) is deflated by the facts.

The Georgia Secretary of State reported the average number of people requesting a free voter ID each year since the law went into effect in 2007 was 0.05 percent of registered voters. The largest single-year figure was 2008 – a presidential election year – in which 12,332 people, or 0.23 percent, of registered voters, asked for a free ID. Survey data collected by American University in Maryland, Indiana and Mississippi show similar data.

Where, then, are these vast populations of people without photo IDs? Answer: in the heads of liberal politicos.

If Georgia, with one of the nation’s strictest ID laws, is oppressing minority voters, how did the total number of black votes increase by 44.2 percent from 2006 to 2010? How did Latino voting during the same period increase 66.5 percent? Both figures are well above the 11.7 percent gain in votes cast by whites.

One must present proof of identity to purchase cigarettes or alcohol, apply for public housing or Medicaid, open a bank account, cash a check or board an airplane. Yet asking the same of someone engaging in a sovereign nation’s most civically important duty is somehow a violation of their rights?

Can we have some honesty for a change?

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deestafford
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deestafford 01/28/14 - 01:18 am
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Excellent editorial that covered all the bases...

Excellent editorial that covered all the bases. The answer to why the democrats and the Marxists ( which is redundant) are against the voter ID is their pandering to their ignorant followers who think they are looking out for them. These are the sheeple who keep them in power.

The question at the end of the editorial is asking for something which is alien to the current crop of Democrats.

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OJP 01/28/14 - 04:51 am
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Yes, first let's ID the problem.

Where is the proof of substantial voter fraud? That's step one.

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carcraft 01/28/14 - 06:27 am
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OJP, did you read the

OJP, did you read the editorial or just run to your liberal talking point list and start typing? Voter fraud has been prosecuted in 46 states. Millions are registered in more than one state etc, etc.

ymnbde
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ymnbde 01/28/14 - 07:04 am
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it guarantees the right to vote

by a citizen
not the right to a vote
from a name on a list
in a demo controlled big city with its voter
mercenaries drawn from the list of names
of uneducated government serfs

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 01/28/14 - 07:30 am
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"Can we have some honesty for

"Can we have some honesty for a change?"

Good question, ACES. We are waiting.

People need to understand that the GOP that is pushing the laws are the same people who keep voting to "defund" ACORN, an agency that lost funding around 2010. They believe voter ID fraud is a problem just like they believe ACORN still exists. You can't reason with some people.

It is not the photo ID that is problematic but the underlying documents required to acquire the ID in some states. The real fraud occurs in absentee balloting and little regulation addresses that, as it is the voting choice of conservatives. Now that is some honesty!

You do know some on the Right and many on this page are hinting that only property taxpayers be allowed to vote. Why don't we just put a bow on the Capitol and hand it to the Koch brothers and their cohorts then nobody will need to bother voting because they will own us. After Citizens United, the corporations darn near own the lawmakers with little ability to track who donates money anymore.

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myfather15 01/28/14 - 08:07 am
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The problem is the Judges!!

Federal Judges are making rulings based upon nothing but speculation and theory, not the law!!

There is absolutely no way they are able to prove that ID laws are targetting minorities, because it simply is NOT TRUE!!! It applies across the board, to everyone!! It's just another left wing, political WMD!!

Also, An "Acorn" by any other name is still an Acorn!! Don't be fooled; Acorn still exists, they've just done the typical left wing tactic, that after you've been exposed as corrupt, CHANGE YOUR NAME!! They've divided into several different groups, with the same goal, they just call themselves different names!!

Acorn now has different names, in different States!! In California, they are called "Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment". In New York they are called "New York Communities for Change" and the list goes on!! They are the same PEOPLE and same group, under different names!! If they are so noble, why do they need to disguise who they really are?

Here, just read one of the reports for yourself; it's from the Huffington post, so I wouldn't exactly call it a right wing think tank!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/15/acorn-getting-a-makeover_n_4995...

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soapy_725 01/28/14 - 08:06 am
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I.D. is at issue because of a permanent residence. Trackable.
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I.D. is at issue because of a permanent residence. Trackable.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 01/28/14 - 08:07 am
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Not the I.D., Its the place of residence, District, City, State,
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Not the I.D., Its the place of residence, District, City, State,

soapy_725
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soapy_725 01/28/14 - 08:08 am
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When residence changes with the wind, 1st of month, etc.
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When residence changes with the wind, 1st of month, etc.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 01/28/14 - 08:09 am
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Transient population cannot be accurately counted. The end.
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Transient population cannot be accurately counted. The end.

Thug passion
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Thug passion 01/28/14 - 08:54 am
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Tell Republicans: Restore the Voting Rights Act.

Across the country, Republicans have passed voter ID laws that disenfranchise voters and GIVE the GOP AN UNFAIR ELECTORAL ADVANTAGE. But a new bipartisan bill in Congress would restore protections of the Voting Rights Act that were gutted by the conservative Supreme Court last year. This mean that states such as Texas, Georgia, Mississippi, and Louisiana would no longer be free to pass discriminatory laws that limit voting rights for minorities and the elderly.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/28/14 - 09:28 am
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Oh Please

Same o same o from the same posters...

The article is right on....show some ID or step aside.....we are foolish to even listen to the negatives about that....cry baby wants their way.

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Junior Dawg 01/28/14 - 09:38 am
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Wow

Your liberals talking points on id laws are ridiculous and you should not be spewing these false statements. Until you can come up with one example of a poor person or minority who is unable to get an id for voting purposes, please do not do our country a disservice and continue to lie about the laws. It only perpetuates your ignorance and causes others to follow in your untruthful path. You should be ashamed!

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SGT49 01/28/14 - 09:41 am
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These libs remind me of those

These libs remind me of those dolls my sisters had, the ones with the string in their back. Pull the string and out comes some senseless drivel. ...disenfranchise voters ...limit voting rights for minorities ...blah blah blah

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Jon Lester 01/28/14 - 09:42 am
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Two things are true.

Competent voters will have what they need to acquire a photo ID, and voter fraud just doesn't happen much at all in this country. You shouldn't listen to anyone who asserts otherwise.

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nocnoc 01/28/14 - 10:02 am
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Try doing anything official

Without an State ID.

Then try and convince me, that people should not have to present ID to vote THEIR VOTE and to keep someone else from voting it for them?

Face it
Saying Voter ID impacts poor voters is a Phony Race Baiting Argument in this Post 911 society.

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jrbfromga 01/28/14 - 10:17 am
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In four years
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Black voters increased 44% and Hispanic voters increased 66%. How does this compare to population increases in these groups, either through people coming of voting age or migration? Is one to believe that these increases are solely the result of increased population and participation by previously non-registered persons? Hard to accept as legitimate.

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dichotomy 01/28/14 - 10:26 am
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Voting is a constitutional

Voting is a constitutional right for a citizen. So is buying a firearm. We require ID to buy a firearm...any firearm...long gun or handgun. There is no outrage from the left that having to show ID to buy a firearm is a violation of constitutional rights. Both rights are spelled out in the Constitution.....and there are not ANY specific limits to either to include age, race, felons, or anything else. BUT, the courts have recognized that the States have a right to put certain limits on this constitutional right. So, being a constitutional right is NOT absolute. Not for buying a firearm, and not for voting. The liberals seem to think that it is a small inconvenience to force someone to show an ID in order to buy a firearm. The conservatives mostly agree with that and think that it is also a small inconvenience to ask a CITIZEN to show a valid ID in order to vote. You can't have it both ways liberals. A valid ID to buy a firearm, a valid ID to vote. Both are constitutional rights. Both can have reasonable requirements put on them before you can exercise your constitutional rights. Showing a picture ID IS A REASONALBE REQUIREMENT.

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corgimom 01/28/14 - 10:40 am
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Lots of elderly people of all

Lots of elderly people of all colors don't have a picture ID.

They have old expired driver's licenses, but those aren't considered valid, and for many of them, once they get old and sick, they can't get to the DMV to get a new one.

Think of how awful the DMV is when you are healthy and ambulatory. Now imagine if you were very sick.

My late mother-in-law, who just passed 5 years ago, didn't have a valid photo ID. She was physically ill and a virtual shut-in, she only left the house for doctor's visits, and those were an ordeal, believe me. She was sharp mentally, but in very poor physical health.

Just taking her to doctor's visits was exhausting for all of us. You can't imagine how hard it is to take a very sick elderly person anywhere.

We weren't about to take her to get a photo ID and have to deal with the DMV. She wouldn't have been able to withstand the stress and the long waits, not to mention if we would've had to wait in a line that stretched outside (which is often the case, our DMV's aren't much bigger than broom closets.)

willie7
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willie7 01/28/14 - 10:48 am
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Thank you Truth Matters for
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Thank you Truth Matters for your Blog.!!!

teaparty
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teaparty 01/28/14 - 11:05 am
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"Across the country,
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"Across the country, Republicans have passed voter ID laws that disenfranchise voters and GIVE the GOP AN UNFAIR ELECTORAL ADVANTAGE."
thug passion, how does voter photo ID give the republicans "AN UNFAIR ELECTORAL ADVANTAGE"? Are the democrats not smart enough to get a voter photo but republicans are? It does make a person wonder does it not?

teaparty
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teaparty 01/28/14 - 11:10 am
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" Lots of elderly people of
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" Lots of elderly people of all colors don't have a picture ID."
corgi, I know lots and lots of elderly people and all of them have a photo ID. The reason the democrats do not want voter photo ID is because they could vote only one time and keep dead people from voting.

KSL
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KSL 01/28/14 - 11:29 am
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Actually there are states

Actually there are states that allow expired picture IDs like driver's licenses if you are over a certain age. Tennessee and Kansas are just 2.

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Pond Life 01/28/14 - 11:41 am
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Corgimom, how are these
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Corgimom, how are these people who can't get to the DMV once, getting to the polls every election to vote? I assume you also support requiring no ID for firearms, since these same people can't be denied a Constitutional right, the right to bear arms. Keeping in mind that there is no Constitutional right to vote.

KSL
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KSL 01/28/14 - 11:42 am
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TDS all you want, but it is

TDS all you want, but it is the truth.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/28/14 - 11:47 am
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Try to get your Obamacare

Everybody has some form of ID. Try to get your Obamacare insurance or subsidy without some form of ID. Nuff said.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 01/28/14 - 11:46 am
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How is requiring an ID to
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How is requiring an ID to vote unfair against Democrats? Would someone supporting voting without ID please explain this? Be careful though. Try to explain it without insulting your voting base.

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allhans 01/28/14 - 11:47 am
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Remember Florida with

Remember Florida with Bush/Gore. A large number of voters were registered in more than one state. They voted in their home state and then again in their retirement home.
How did they vote? We will never know...but consider the small number Bush won by and then think!
What good is your vote if ineligible voters are voting in your state.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 01/28/14 - 11:51 am
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Where's the proof of votor
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Where's the proof of votor fraud? Ever heard of Yahoo or Google?

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/05/30/poll-worker-who-voted-for-obama-m...

That took all of 3 seconds.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/28/14 - 11:54 am
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There is definite evidence to

There is definite evidence to suggest voter fraud occurred to get Kennedy elected and then the 2004 Bush election.

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