Helping grow government

Split by libertarians and Republicans gave Democrats a governorship

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Democrats should’ve won this one going away.

But perhaps they shouldn’t have won it at all.

Democrat Terry McAuliffe, a Clinton confidante who had the power couple’s public backing as well as the sitting president’s, and who spent three times as much as his opponent, won the Virginia governor’s seat Tuesday by the slimmest of margins – after once holding a double-digit lead.

Two things turned this race, one that hurt the Democrats and one that helped them even more.

What hurt them was no doubt the Obamacare disaster – which may have unfolded just a little too late to put Republican candidate Ken Cuccinelli over the top.

But what helped Democrats was the libertarian vote: Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis took 7 percent of the vote, most of which likely would’ve gone to the Republican Cuccinelli. Without Sarvis in the race, Cuccinelli is probably the next governor of Virginia.

Fact is, some believe the Obama Democrats were quietly promoting the libertarian’s candidacy.

While Democrats should be very concerned about how close Obamacare made this race, libertarians and Republicans should be even more worried.

The ironic truth is that while they think they’re voting for more freedom, libertarians – by splitting the conservative vote – are voting for less freedom by electing Obamacare-supporting, big-government-backing Democrats.

That’s voting against one’s self-interest.

This is not an attack on libertarianism. This editorial page is among the most sympathetic in the nation to the libertarian cause. It’s simply acknowledging reality. By siphoning votes away from conservative Republicans such as Cuccinelli – the first and fiercest warrior to go into battle against Obamacare – libertarians are inadvertently throwing their support behind bigger government.

So-called “establishment” Republicans – whom many conservatives have long derided as “country club” Republicans and RINOs, Republicans In Name Only – have to share some of the blame for Cuccinelli’s loss.

“Reports that the Republican National Committee spent $3 million in 2009 to help the Republican nominee, compared to $1 million this time, tells the story,” Jenny Beth Martin, national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots, was quoted.

“Even against such extraordinary odds, Cuccinelli came within roughly 50,000 votes and 2 percentage points of McAuliffe. Just think what would have happened if the business and donor classes of the Republican Party would have helped.”

The national Republicans “totally blew it,” one unnamed Cuccinelli adviser was quoted, while Cuccinelli adviser Chris La Civita asks, “was leaving Cuccinelli alone in the first week of October a smart move? We were on our own.”

Democrats laughed all the way to the governor’s office. A Democratic Party memo stated:

“Despite laws in Virginia that allow for unlimited financial contributions and complete coordination between the campaigns and outside groups, the RGA tried to run a different campaign than their own candidate – a puzzling strategy that made both the Cuccinelli campaign and the RGA less effective.”

This is no way to win elections – and yet, a fractured and unfocused GOP nearly did.

Those who believe in our founding principles of limited government and individual liberty had better look past their labels and differences, and get over themselves and get together – for the good of the country.

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Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/09/13 - 01:45 pm
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Blame

The editorial seems to blame two things for Cuccinelli's defeat:

people voting for the Libertarian Party's candidate, and

the RNC's failure to support Cuccinelli's campaign

The trouble is, it is the McCain/Grahamnesty control of the RNC that is pushing more and more people to vote Libertarian. The only way the RNC is going to get libertarian votes is to move away from the neo-Cons and RINOs. There doesn't seem much interest in that at this time.

You folks have probably figured out that I am a libertarian and have been for a long time (since around 1970, actually). In the 80's and 90's there would sometimes be an election that I thought was so close that I would select the Republican over the Libertarian for strategic purposes. But no more. Little Lamb will take a Libertarian every time now, no matter how close the election. The Republican Party has let me down too many times.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 01:52 pm
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In Spite Of What The Press....

.....would have you believe, the Republican Party is not in shambles. True, there is a fight for Party leadership between the Conservatives and the "moderates," but it's really more a fight between the blue blood, country club wing of the Party and the blue collar wing.

Primary fights are good, not bad. The Press will try to pick the Republican candidate again, by destroying the Conservatives in the Primary. If they succeed and Christie (or another moderate) becomes the Republican candidate, a Democrat will likely be the next President.

I am a Conservative, as are most Americans. I will most likely vote for the Republican candidate because he/she will most likely be MORE Conservative than any candidate the Democrats nominate.

Unfortunately, if the Republican candidate is a "moderate" many Conservatives and many Independents won't bother going to the polls and that's how a Democrat will be elected, as has happened in the past two Presidential elections.

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allhans 11/09/13 - 01:54 pm
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Libertarians have to know

Libertarians have to know that they are throwing the election to the Dems when they run a candidate (i.e.VA), so why do they continue.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 01:59 pm
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"The Republican Party has let me down too many times."

Me too. I fully understand your beef.

But a vote for a Libertarian (at least under current circumstances) is a vote for a Democrat President. Until we see lots of Democrats turning Libertarian (which we may, actually) I'll probably stick with someone who has a chance of winning.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 02:03 pm
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It Doesn't Help The Cause...

...of Republican Party unity, for Republicans (including normally Conservative Editorial Boards) to attack a Conservative who's fighting on the right side of an issue critically important to the lives of millions of Americans.

Precisely what happened when Senator Cruz was so roundly attacked for trying to stop (or even delay) the implementation of Obmacare a month ago. He was right, his antagonists were wrong. Party unity suffered.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 02:06 pm
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"anyone remember the election of 2000."

Hoo boy, do I?

That's the one where Democrats tried to steal it all in Florida and the Florida Supreme Court tried to help them.

Can you imagine where we'd be if Algore had been President on 9/11/01?

faithson
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faithson 11/09/13 - 02:20 pm
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yes Harley,

The balanced budget at the time would have continued. We would have trillions, with a T dollars LESS in debt, let alone over 4000 dead and 35000 wounded, plus VA hospitals filled to the brim for another generation. America's reputation would be in much better stead among in the middle east. Yes, I CAN imagine a Gore presidency. A presidency that would have tamed the 'dogs of war' that were unleashed by GWB and the conservative hawks.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 02:24 pm
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"A presidency that would have tamed the 'dogs of war'....

....that were unleashed by the conservative hawks."

Those "dogs of war" have never been released. We've spent $Trillions, wasted thousands of lives and hundreds of thousands of injuries in order to lose the wars they fought. America-hating terrorists grow stronger, infiltrate our institutions, and prepare to destroy us because democrats refuse to fight them to win.

We can only speculate about a Gore Presidency. Watching his fake concern for the charade called "global warming," and his hypocrisy as he made millions on the lies, only gives us a clue as to how tragic it would have been.

If we don't release those "dogs of war" now, we'll suffer the consequences soon enough.

faithson
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faithson 11/09/13 - 02:46 pm
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charade called "global warming,"

emotionalism says: charade. 98% of scientist's say: FACT. hummmmm. think I'll go with the science, kinda like the Galileo problem in the catholic church, which only took 400 years to figure out. I don't think less of those who prefer emotionalism to pragmatism, you can lead a horse to water, but.....

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 02:54 pm
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"charade called "global warming,"

...charade called "global warming,"

....emotionalism says: charade. 98% of scientist's say: FACT."

No they don't. "Fact(s)" are indisputable. They are proven.

Just because "progressives" make the false claim that man-made global warming is a "fact," certainly doesn't make it so.

Evidence suggests (and you probably already know this) that much of the "proof" presented by the cult members was ginned up via modeling and sampling errors, most likely purposeful errors. The earth is not warming. In fact, many scientists believe it is cooling.

It was all a hoax. It is all designed as yet another mechanism to achieve the transfer of wealth. It's right there with Obamacare and Immigration reform. Each of them is presented in a manner that invokes emotionalism and feverish support from amongst the cult followers.

Thinking people don't fall for it.

teaparty
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teaparty 11/09/13 - 03:17 pm
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If not for the little weasel
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If not for the little weasel Ross Perot slick Willy would not have won in 92. Since the communists, Marxists and progressives have taken over the democrat party they don't have worry about a third party.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 03:18 pm
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"Libertarians have to know....

....that they are throwing the election to the Dems when they run a candidate (i.e.VA), so why do they continue."

In the case of the VA Gubernatorial Election the answer seems to be....

1. Money
2. Ignorance
3. Democrats playing deceitful politics.

Not necessarily in that order.

teaparty
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teaparty 11/09/13 - 03:22 pm
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"Maybe, for the sake of what
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"Maybe, for the sake of what is good for this country, Republicans are going to have to make promises "just to win votes"!!"
I GOT IT, LIE LIKE THE LYING SNAKE IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!

teaparty
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teaparty 11/09/13 - 03:30 pm
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SB3 said, "Put the leeches
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SB3 said, "Put the leeches and moochers on notice that the gravy train is becoming derailed."
"the leeches and moochers" are going to continue to vote the democrat.

faithson
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faithson 11/09/13 - 03:51 pm
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Harley, evidence and consensus..

for many of us in the general population, herein lies our POV.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/scienti...
Millions of Americans get information about climate science from the Fox News Channel, yet a 2012 UCS snapshot analysis found that representations of climate science on Fox News Channel were misleading 93 percent of the time.
Another prominent News Corporation outlet, the Wall Street Journal's opinion page, similarly misled the public in 81 percent of letters, op-eds, columns, and editorials.

harley_52
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harley_52 11/09/13 - 04:10 pm
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Faithson....

Scientific proof is not a matter of consensus. It's a matter of fact. Yes, you've found a web site who claims there is "consensus," but there is ample evidence supporting my assertion that it's all a hoax.

We could play the game where you go find support for your side and I do the same for my side, but it's a waste of time. My position is pretty simple....there is NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF that the earth's surface is warming due to anything mankind has done, or not done. There is no scientific proof the earth is warming NOW. There's evidence it's cooling.

Nobody really cares about opinion pages as "proof," one way or the other and while you may be a believer in "UCS snapshot analysis," that doesn't really concern me, or many others.

It's a hoax. It supports your agenda. I have no problem with that.

But none of it makes it true and if it's not proven we shouldn't waste money chasing an agenda that's trying to achieve some sort of massive wealth transfer.

teaparty
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teaparty 11/09/13 - 04:27 pm
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carcraft
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carcraft 11/09/13 - 05:20 pm
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I love it, "IF YOU ONLY HAD A

I love it, "IF YOU ONLY HAD A MODERATE WE COULD GET BEHIND " LOL what A JOKE!! Who in heavens name was more moderate than Romney? Please name one more moderate Republican? The press, the Democrates and the Unions lied about Romney and covered for Obama to the point it was embarrassing! The low information voters ate it up. Well the low information voters are stuck with a lying piece of garbage in the White House that is going to ruin their health care also. GRADY Hospital is slated to lose up to $45 million when Obama care is fully in effect! The damage is just starting! If Candy Crowley harden covered for Obama during the debates things might be differant!

teaparty
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teaparty 11/09/13 - 05:38 pm
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carcraft said, 'Who in
Unpublished

carcraft said, 'Who in heavens name was more moderate than Romney?'
Let me think, hey maybe John McCain. The moochers and parasites will never vote for a republican they like the communists, Marxists and the progressives in the democrat party.

d1zmljqg
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d1zmljqg 11/09/13 - 06:01 pm
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Go figure

Looks like most of you have done no research on the "Cooch" as some call him here in the Old Dominion. There's a lot said in http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/cuccinelli-hard-right-virginia-governor-..., e.g., .....

Here's part of an excerpt.... "Through much of the race Cuccinelli chose to appeal to tea partiers and Christian conservatives in the state by stressing his hard-right stances on limited government, abortion, gay rights, gun control and opposition to raising taxes. And tea party favorites like Cruz, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Paul's father, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), Dr. Ben Carson and Christian conservative darling Mike Duggar all campaigned for Cuccinelli alongside more mainstream candidates like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

Former Virginia Attorney General Jerry Kilgore (R), who ran unsuccessfully against now-Sen. Time Kaine (D-VA) in the state's gubernatorial race, said Cuccinelli should have tried to focus more on the economy.

"The way you deflect social attacks is to focus on the economy and jobs and things that are going on in Washington," Kilgore told TPM."....end of the part excerpt.

Bill Bolling, the current Lt. Governor, had been in the wings awaiting his chance to become the next governor, but the Tea Party nuts moved in with their shenanigans and got their darling Cuccinelli "nominated." Needless to say crap hit the fan and Terry McCauliffe won out over the Cooch. For lots of us we had to hold our noses in the voting process. Oh, Bill Bolling would have most likely been elected.

P.S. I sure fire did not vote for the Cooch.

carcraft
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carcraft 11/09/13 - 06:31 pm
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d1zmljqg, so goh voted for

d1zmljqg, so you voted for the crook because the other guy was two hard right? I am playing the BS card. Mcawful has been involved in more crooked deals than the Mafia . The folks that voted Mcawful in will get what they deserve, just like the idiot Democrats that supported Obumbler care now losing their health care because they supported the lying sack of garbage get what they deserve!

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