Crumbling character

Losing our morals could very well lose us our country

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“A great and noble nation will not sever its political from its moral life.”

– Sam Tilden

Time was, when a scandalized politician and his paramour would both slink mercifully away.

Not so today.

Cybersleaze Anthony Weiner and his cyberslut Sydney Leathers aren’t just staying in the public eye, they’re doing it proudly – he as a New York mayoral candidate, she as an adult entertainer who finds conservative women revolting and inhibited.

“Conservative girls are really uptight. It makes me think of all those, like you know, Fox News fembots who obviously are self-loathing or they wouldn’t be Republican and female, in my opinion,” she says.

If life were about nothing more than a good time, she might be right. But that’s not what life is about. In fact, as if to prove the point, life has a way of seeing inveterate pleasure-seekers crash and burn.

We noted the death of shame in an editorial July 28. But in reality, it’s worse than that: In America today, you can openly promote loose morals and express contempt for morality – and be celebrated.

This isn’t just a matter of “uptight” tsk-tsking of immorality. It’s a matter of survival for a self-governed nation.

“No people who lost their character kept their liberties,” says Lawrence W. Reed, president of the Foundation for Economic Education. “Bad character leads to bad policy and bad economics, which is bad for liberty. Without character, a free society is not just unlikely, it’s impossible.”

It was, ironically enough, a historian in ancient Rome, Livy, who noted ominously:

“There is an exceptionally beneficial and fruitful advantage to be derived from the study of the past. There you see, set in the clear light of historical truth, examples of every possible type. From these you can select for yourself and your country what to imitate, and also what, as being mischievous in its inception and disastrous in its consequences, you should avoid.”

It turned out to be an epitaph for the Roman empire – and perhaps an omen for America.

Ancient Rome, like America, was a republic born of the throwing off of tyranny. It initially feared a repeat of tyranny so much that it established a system of diffuse power that included dual consuls who were term-limited.

But Romans eventually learned they could, as Reed notes, “not just work for a living, but vote for one.” In other words, they began to elect leaders who would take from others and give to them. It changed the relationship between government and citizen, and how people looked at income and work.

Pretty soon it was free wheat for the masses, and a third of Rome was receiving some sort of subsidy. There was easy and even free credit, a debased currency, bailed-out cities, free wheat now baked into bread – and a withering of means testing for benefits. Freedoms were lost to dependency, and politicians became increasingly drunk on power, politics progressively vitriolic.

Any of this sound vaguely familiar?

For Reed, a Newnan resident, the lessons of Rome’s collapse and similar historical misadventures are threefold:

1) you can’t have freedom for long without responsibility

2) restrained and diffuse power is preferable to unrestrained and concentrated power

3) “The here-and-now is rarely as important as tomorrow. Plan accordingly.”

“Romans once lived for the future,” Reed adds.

So did Americans. Today, we not only tend to eat our own seed corn, but to also have the government provide us with somebody else’s.

Sometimes literally: A news report this past week told of economically depressed mountain folks in North Carolina who repeatedly turned down federal government offers of free food, but finally relented when offered free seed. The social worker who found a way to break down the residents’ dedication to self-reliance got an award for doing so.

Like those good folks’ resolve, character, it seems, is crumbling in America.

Reed believes there is no easy answer, that young people must be taught the virtues of character early and often.

“America,” says Reed, “needs more people who can’t be bought.”

We couldn’t agree more.

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t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:25 am
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Quote from editorial

"So did Americans. Today, we not only tend to eat our own seed corn, but to also have the government provide us with somebody else’s."

I hope, IN ALL FAIRNESS, this is refering to welfare, foodstamps, and Medicaid, AND NOT to Social Security Retirement and S.S. Disability and Medicare !! I am sorry if this offends anyone, BUT S.S. is paid for by the employee and the employer into what is supposedly a seperate pot of money, AND the other mentioned programs are paid for by the tax payer !! A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE !

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:32 am
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"We have only to look across the river at fine Mark Sanford and his South American paramour to find a lack of morality. And he was voted into office depite his moral failing. Let's also remember David Vitter, Pete Dominici, Chris Lee and Mark Souder. If it slithers like a reptile, it is in fact, a reptile. Doesn't matter if it's Democrat or Republican."

Again recognising Mark Sanford, Republican, as a degenerate:

That is 2 against Sanford and 1 against Weiner, Democrat.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:38 am
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chascushman @ 10:23

"you do not realize that is the parents place to teach "virtues of character early and often" is not surprising."

FAT CHANCE of that happening on a large scale in this country today !

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:43 am
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"1) you can’t have freedom for long without responsibility"

I would like a detailed diffenition of what "RESPONSIBILITY" means in this statement. I mean, there are tens of millions of people in this country who are free, BUT take VERY, VERY little responsibility !

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justthefacts 08/18/13 - 09:43 am
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Seriously

A pox on both their houses, but as long as Bill Clinton is treated as a rock star everywhere he goes, how can a Democrat even mention the term "virtues of character"?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:49 am
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"“Bad character leads to bad policy and bad economics, which is bad for liberty. Without character, a free society is not just unlikely, it’s impossible.”"

I truly believe that moderates FROM BOTH SIDES have got to agree on this statement before we are going to go forward to repair this country !

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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 09:55 am
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justthefacts @ 10:43

"A pox on both their houses, but as long as Bill Clinton is treated as a rock star everywhere he goes, how can a Democrat even mention the term "virtues of character"?"

Very good statement. Reminds me of what I continue to say, "If the Clintons get the Democratic nomiation for presidential candidate, THEN another party will win the next prisidentcy."

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Augustaisdying 08/18/13 - 09:56 am
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ACES' Character Has Crumbled
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ACES is a bad joke. Hypocrisy and women-bashing ("cyberslut"). No need to read any editorials any longer from this hack paper. But, actually, ACES has never had any character, only characters, like plagiarist Phil Kent. These editors should be fired too.

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myfather15 08/18/13 - 09:59 am
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T3bledsoe

I couldn't care less about having a fan base (I know you were kidding). What I care about is TRUTH!! Truth is truth and fair is fair!! I also couldn't care less about political party "loyalty"!!! My loyalty is to NO political party or man!! My loyalty is to God!!

I will tell you EXACTLY what I believe in, and you can place me in whichever category you want!!

faithson
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faithson 08/18/13 - 10:06 am
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ellite 8:32

well thought out response. A response that includes some 'primal' points of difference between these two political classes, militarism being the bottom line.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 10:16 am
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myfather15 @ 10:59

GREAT STATEMENT and a good way to look at politics ! Guess I need to think more like that about my politics as well.

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corgimom 08/18/13 - 10:17 am
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I'd far rather deal with two

I'd far rather deal with two committed consenting adult homosexuals getting married, than look at the drunks, criminals, drug addicts, wife-beaters, adulters, child-abusers, and child molesters, many of whom are heterosexual and married.

But I guess all that is ok, as long as a man is married to a woman. That's not as immoral.

Got it.

faithson
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faithson 08/18/13 - 10:19 am
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and pray tell, where are ALL the rest...

to bend this accusation of Mr. Ryan's in favor of HIS side, HIS agenda, only goes to show how self serving the conservative party has become. To allow Mark Sanford off the hook on this one, as he IS our LOCAL area past-politician, and so 'perfect' for the point of this article... So many out there to 'expose' as 'immoral', so many............. lets all focus on the people in our lives we have found 'wanting' in our understanding of them, yep, lets focus on those things that help our ego to see itself 'above'. I must also impute your editorial as your board has found countenance with Herman Cain, a masterful politician who in the end was found terribly 'wanting' in his personal relationships with other women, while fronting a facade of a wonderful marriage. Oh, yea, that Judge Thomas and the porn thing... sorry, but yep HE did.

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seenitB4 08/18/13 - 10:21 am
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Don't we sag & sway

In the weather, but also in morals & character it seems....we go from straight as an arrow to loose as a goose (you might say)..I think we are on the edge of loose as a goose right now BUT headed back to straightsville...we shall see in the next Presidential election.

I agree BOTH sides have their flaws in character.

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corgimom 08/18/13 - 10:22 am
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"you do not realize that is

"you do not realize that is the parents place to teach "virtues of character early and often" is not surprising."

FAT CHANCE of that happening on a large scale in this country today !

But now here is an interesting concept.

What about parents that allow their children to watch R-rated movies with graphic sexual content, watch TV shows that show nudity, dress their children like hookers and gangsters, think that "pot is harmless and all kids do it", "all teenagers drink, I did", allow their children to listen to filthy music, and think that's ok?

You would be surprised as to the number of parents that think they are bringing up their children well, and allow that!

faithson
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faithson 08/18/13 - 10:22 am
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gotcha, but pretty much knew all that from before. I still would not want to be a minority you pulled over... sorry.

faithson
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faithson 08/18/13 - 10:29 am
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corg

Qualify for the most important 'JOB' one can ever have; Parenting.

As soon as we have the moral will to objectively say who can and cannot be parents, we will have 'started' to make the change so many want in our Children.

Tough Love, but if children are the 'gifts' my Catholicism says they are, than not everyone, is qualified to the task of 'parenting'.

Weeding out the worst case is all my quest is about.

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myfather15 08/18/13 - 11:09 am
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Corgimom

"drunks, criminals, drug addicts, wife-beaters, adulters, child-abusers, and child molesters, many of whom are heterosexual and married. "

And you don't think homesexual and homesexual couples fall into ANY of these categories?

But I will give you one they CAN NOT fall into, being the biological parents of a child together!!

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KSL 08/18/13 - 11:12 am
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jtf

Glad you posted that as a remider to those with short memories.

myfather15
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myfather15 08/18/13 - 11:19 am
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faithson

"As soon as we have the moral will to objectively say who can and cannot be parents, we will have 'started' to make the change so many want in our Children."

What would you do, sterilize people deemed "unfit"?

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myfather15 08/18/13 - 11:21 am
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Double post

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chascushman 08/18/13 - 12:14 pm
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" FAT CHANCE of that
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" FAT CHANCE of that happening on a large scale in this country today !"
Bledsoe, you are somewhat correct. The Great Society, liberals/progressives, democrats and black leaders have almost destroyed black families and many white families.

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chascushman 08/18/13 - 12:19 pm
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' What would you do,
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' What would you do, sterilize people deemed "unfit"?'
myfather, Planned Parenthood was started by people that thought blacks were deemed unfit and should be sterilized. Yet we give taxpayer money to it to kill babies mostly black.

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faithson 08/18/13 - 12:31 pm
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yes, in worst case scenario, being charged with 'sexual irresponsibility' being one, where the individual has NO concept of being 'responsible', being deemed so by a jury of their peers.

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faithson 08/18/13 - 12:35 pm
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when the family breaks down,

so does the culture those families live in. Mistakes made are like water over the dam... honest discussion of the issues, without all the finger pointing, is what is needed. Here is where I find so many conservatives lacking, honest discussion, not my way or the highway syndrome so many are infected with.

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myfather15 08/18/13 - 01:05 pm
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faithson

So, the jury deems these people "unfit" or too irresponsible to have children, and they are sterilized. What happens 6 or 7 years down the road, when they honestly change their lives, becoming productive citizens, making a decent living and want to have children? At this point, they are completely self sufficient and responsible, because they learned the error of their ways. What then?

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myfather15 08/18/13 - 02:11 pm
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t3bledsoe

"I hope, IN ALL FAIRNESS, this is refering to welfare, foodstamps, and Medicaid, AND NOT to Social Security Retirement and S.S. Disability and Medicare !! I am sorry if this offends anyone, BUT S.S. is paid for by the employee and the employer into what is supposedly a seperate pot of money,"

What about those who've NEVER held a steady job in their lives, yet FALSELY claim disability and get it? There are a LOT more of these than you may realize. I could actually name MANY names, and those are just ones that I've met personally.

Now, before anyone asks "How do you know they aren't disabled, are you a doctor?"

No, I've just arrested them for fighting, burglarizing houses, domestic disputes, disorderly conducts, etc. The way I see if, if you can get into an all-out brawl because someone called you a name, you can flip a burger at a restaurant. If you can carry TV's out of someone house, that you're burglarizing, you can paint someones house. But, most of these I speak of are lifelong drug addicts and can't get a steady job because of THIS, not because they are unable to work!!

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corgimom 08/18/13 - 02:38 pm
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Who cares if someone is a

Who cares if someone is a biological parent or not? Who CARES?

I have stepchildren. They are wonderful. I have loved them, loved their children, consider them mine.

Does that mean because I'm their stepmother that I'm not a good parent to them? Does that mean that my husband, who is my son's stepfather, isn't a good parent to my son? Does that mean that my son's biological father, who has been a worthless father to my son, is better than my husband, who volunteered for the job?

Who CARES if somebody can have a biological child or not?

Does that mean if somebody adopts a child (which gay parents often do), does that mean that if somebody is a stepparent (which gay parents often are), does that mean if somebody uses a donor egg or sperm (which many gay parents do), they are LESS of a parent?

Because you ask anybody who falls into any of those catagories, if they are any "less" of a parent, or if their child is any "less" of a child to them, and they will tell you otherwise in a hurry.

And since you are all about biological children, what about heterosexual parents that fall into those catagories, who are parenting children that are not theirs biologically? Are they "less" of a parent?

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t3bledsoe 08/18/13 - 02:42 pm
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mefather15 @ 3:11

I agree with all of your statement, BUT I know people that have taken complete advantage of the Medicaid system probably in the neighborhood of 40,000 dollars for wife to give birth to 4 kids !!

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