Here's your honest conversation

Incisive commentary on race draws praise, even more hatred

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Whatever you think of Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly, he at least tried to start an honest conversation on race.

The response to him demonstrates why the country may never have that conversation.

In a particularly hard-hitting commentary July 22, inspired by President Obama’s reaction to the Trayvon Martin verdict, O’Reilly noted some of the problems facing the African-American community – including high rates of crime and skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births.

“Young black men commit homicides at a rate 10 times greater than whites and Hispanics combined,” O’Reilly said. ... “Right now about 73 percent of all black babies are born out of wedlock.”

The latter is not a moral judgment, it’s a practical and economic one: Nearly every societal ill is exacerbated by single parenthood, particularly poverty.

O’Reilly blasted black leaders, the civil rights industry and President Obama for ignoring such pathologies, and the entertainment industry for propagating and glorifying them. And he said the problem is the disintegration of the family.

He’s spot-on right.

And they hate him for it.

Remarkably, liberal CNN personality Don Lemon not only agreed with O’Reilly, but politely chastised him for not going far enough. Lemon gave his own five-point plan for his fellow African-Americans: pull up your pants; stop using the “N” word; respect your environs; finish school; and don’t have children out of wedlock.

But Lemon and a few others have been drowned out by a very loud and uncivil backlash – and not just at O’Reilly. One black MSNBC talking head called Lemon a “turncoat (expletive).”

We won’t even repeat what MSNBC contributor Michael Eric Dyson said about O’Reilly.

There’s your honest conversation about race.

Maybe they lash out at the person because the facts are incontrovertible.

Moreover, O’Reilly is right to ask where the black leaders are when it comes to addressing these problems. Where are the public service announcements about the links between out-of-wedlock births and poverty, crime and other dysfunction? Where are the exhortations from civil rights and political leaders to do the things that are healthy and that work? Where are the calls for individual responsibility and collective action?

“The sad truth is that from the president on down,” O’Reilly said, “our leadership has no clue, no clue at all about how to solve problems within the black community. And many are frightened to even broach the issue.”

After what has happened since O’Reilly’s remarks, can you blame them?

Well, yes. Leaders are supposed to be at least as courageous as talk-show hosts.

Other than exhibit a model family, Mr. Obama has done next to nothing to foster a healthy, honest discussion on these matters. Instead, he fans the flames of division and of paralyzing victimization by comparing himself to a dead teen. And he invites some of the purveyors of unhealthy culture for parties at the White House.

It’s not enough to bemoan verdicts and attack O’Reilly and the people brave enough to agree with him in public. Either show him where he’s wrong or do something to change the circumstances that make him right.

Wouldn’t it be great if the country had political, racial and moral leadership of that caliber?

Can you believe how far we are from it?

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nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/31/13 - 06:48 pm
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Question to AUSTIN

Do you have any deeper info on the 2 deaths from a Motorcycle accident driven by a Wrens Officer, over on Ulm Rd. over the weekend?

specsta
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specsta 07/31/13 - 06:51 pm
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Get The Barf Bag

If someone can watch this video clip and not see the disdain and disrespect O'Reilly holds for black men, perhaps it's time to schedule a frontal lobotomy.

specsta
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specsta 07/31/13 - 06:52 pm
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Get The Barf Bag

If someone can watch this video clip and not see the disdain and disrespect O'Reilly holds for black men, perhaps it's time to schedule a frontal lobotomy.

http://youtu.be/yswEJ81hnWA

foster
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foster 07/31/13 - 08:15 pm
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Race

Lyndon Johnson (A Democrat), The Great Society and welfare have done more to harm the black community than 100 years of slavery!

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/31/13 - 09:06 pm
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I assume this is the

I assume this is the controversial "talking points" that Lemmon agreed with? Why not play Lemmon's agreement with O'Reilly and further comments so we can out all the racists? I think O'Reilly has disdain for everyone but Bill O'Reilly. The guy constantly interrupts or cuts off people-even those he agrees with. He always has that condescending tone, but will play coy and innocent he isn't an egomaniac, and then the no spin act and I'm a neutral player-yeah right as much as Maddow. The Catch 22 of racism is everyone is a racist-even pleading your aren't makes you a racist. It's crazy-Lincoln, Johnson, Reagan, Clinton, Bush, etc. and now Obama have all made racist comments that can't be denied least you need that frontal lobotomy. Everyone is a racist, but those who don't believe in "races" nor believe there is any value to any differences between races has taken a big step to alleviate the problem. It's the argument I made on Wikipedia "Race and Intelligence" all the comparisons are based on a false premise that there is a race. It is meaningless to compare IQs of entities that don't exist-like saying that aliens from Mars are smarter than humans. So if you are any ethnic group and believe you are of race-then you are a racist by definition-well half of it anyways. Poor Hispanics are considered non-white Hispanics and white Hispanics so they are screwed. LOL>

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mrenee2003 07/31/13 - 09:59 pm
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White Collar Crime

is a serious offense. Wall street thugs, mortgage broker thugs, Enron thugs, etc. have caused turmoil for millions of people who have lost their homes, died from stress illnesses, died from not getting the medical care they needed because they lost their wages and insurance. The economic impact on our society is horrific. Your minds won't let you believe it's equivalent to street thugs because then you would have to acknowledge there is no such thing as the invisible hand and government regulation is needed to save people's jobs and retirements.

Darby
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Darby 08/01/13 - 02:02 pm
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"The channel programmers apparently think

they need to staff people who are every bit as dumb as certain Fox News regulars, in order to compete."

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Well, that's not very nice. How about you naming some names?????????

Darby
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Darby 08/01/13 - 02:09 pm
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"You have to watch MSNBC, CNN, FOX, and

then NPR to sift through all the spin to try to find what is relevant and just news."

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No, I don't. Watching MSNBC for in a search for the truth is more or less like reading the Koran in order to "understand" the true meaning of Christianity.

Or using an assembly manual for a bicycle to repair a Rolls Royce.

Just a waste of time.

Darby
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Darby 08/01/13 - 04:01 pm
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"Let's Compare Crime!

1000 black boys each commit a crime and bag $1,000 each.
1 white hedge fund manager for Steven Cohen (SAC) bags $100,000,000."

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If you had done that "comparison" in a college classroom you'd get and deserve an "F".

White collar crime is still a crime and must be punished.

The "black boys" (Don't know why they have to be black unless it just fits your provocative racial narrative.) aren't going to get $1000 per crime. More likely they'll get $25 or $50 a pop.

But for the sake of argument, say they do pull down $1000. Each crime will almost certainly be violent and result in serious injury or death of the victim.

How does that equate to some sort of "moral equivalence" to anyone other than a hard core liberal socialist who is happy to keep poor people poor but voting for Democrats? "Yeah, you guys break the law, but so do those rich white guys, so don't worry about it".

If I've got to be a victim of crime, I'd rather be alive and healthy afterward, with a chance to recover, pull my life together and thrive.

The "the invisible hand of government" has never been invisible and does more harm than good in almost all cases. It's sole purpose is to redistribute funds for the benefit of elected officials.

Cheerleaders like yourself are caught up in your own imaginary Utopia, seeing fantasy as reality.

Note: A true "comparison" of crime as you put it, would require hundreds of pages and weeks or months or research. Even then, you wouldn't solve a single problem or do more than scratch the surface of the subject.

Darby
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Darby 08/01/13 - 04:04 pm
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"White Collar Crime is a serious offense."

While murder, of course is not....

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