An appeal to reason

Don't get caught up in misguided hysteria after Zimmerman verdict

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Who’s hounding whom now?

The very people who bitterly complain that George Zimmerman stalked Trayvon Martin now seem intent on dogging Zimmerman, even after a jury acquitted him in what everyone concedes was a fair trial.

They say they want justice, but only if it leads to the outcome they expect. The justice system spoke for itself, and on Saturday found Zimmerman not guilty of second-degree murder and manslaughter.

As we warned in an editorial Saturday, those who tuned in to the former mainstream media were exposed to a perverted view of the case that presented the prosecution in an unrealistically favorable light – and were likely shocked by the outcome as a result.

The case was not only riddled with conflicting evidence and reasonable doubt, but also arguably some pretty compelling evidence that Zimmerman was being beaten before shooting Martin – which would buttress Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. As other news outlets reported long ago, the physical evidence indicated wounds on Zimmerman’s face and head – and on Martin’s knuckles.

If there is any reasonable belief that Zimmerman was defending himself – and there is – then the jury was duty-bound to acquit him.

Even in the face of such facts, the former mainstream media just couldn’t resist selling the story line that this was a racial incident reminiscent of America’s inglorious past. Many in the left-wing media seem to want that past to be true today. They want to believe the worst in America. They’re not interested in the evidence. It gets in the way of a good, self-loathing story.

There was no evidence that Zimmerman had any racist tendencies whatsoever. In fact, there was evidence to the contrary, with one black witness calling Zimmerman a friendly neighbor. FBI reports say the police concluded Zimmerman was an “overzealous” neighborhood watchman who exhibited “a little hero complex, but not as a racist.”

Indeed, the only racist intonations in the trial came from Trayvon Martin himself, who used a racial slur in describing Zimmerman to a friend on the phone just before the fateful encounter.

These facts, and many more, not only point clearly to a verdict of not guilty, but also bring into question the pretext for the charges. As strongly as Mr. Martin’s supporters feel about the verdict, many folks believe just as strongly that this case was filed as much for political reasons as legal.

Yet, even after the verdict, some still want to hound Zimmerman, urging the U.S. Department of Justice to put him on trial again for violating Martin’s civil rights – again, in the face of absolutely no evidence of racial motivation.

This mob-like pound-of-flesh incitement on the part of some is causing a hysteria that leads to civil unrest and irrational statements such as one protester’s lament of “58 years, and nothing’s changed.” That’s just lunacy. And it’s a particularly perilous genre of fiction.

Leaders appealed for calm before and after the verdict, while not really achieving it. What we might want to appeal for is reason.

George Zimmerman is not a cop, and he should’ve left law enforcement to the law enforcers. He should never have followed anyone as he did. But our hounding him makes just as little sense. The jury has spoken.

Neither this case nor its conclusion have anything relevant or coherent to say about race relations in America.

Unfortunately, the reaction to it does.

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carcraft
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carcraft 07/16/13 - 04:40 am
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In the first week in July 20

In the first week in July 20 homicides in Chicago, one a 14 year old boy. We have gang shootings here in Augusta all the time, young people being killed, the shooters lives spiraling into a misery of years in jail and lost rights as a citizen. Holes the size of oceans left in parents and loved ones hearts for the people on both ends of the gun. Where are the Marchs; where is the outrage, Oh, is it because it is black on black crime that it is OK? I would surmise from the evidence that Blacks are prejudice against Blacks because blacks killing blacks doesn't seem to matter...I do care and I am sick of the thug life culture that spans the little gansta wanna bees..

ymnbde
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ymnbde 07/16/13 - 06:03 am
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past behavior is an indicator of future behavior

and the past behavior of young black males
causes them to be profiled
causes them to be feared
causes them to be avoided
liberals seem to want it that way

afadel
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afadel 07/16/13 - 06:10 am
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Only the ACES Could Make Zimmerman the Victim

Couldn't the ACES just have left this alone instead of rubbing the verdict into the face of all who know from personal experience that race has everything to do with who is considered suspicious, who has "ground" to stand on, which victims receive police resources in an investigation and whose homicides are justifiable?

There is an extrajudicial killing of a black person in the United States every 28 hours. http://mxgm.org/report-on-the-extrajudicial-killings-of-120-black-people/

But ACES says race has nothing to do with it.

When Trayvon was shot, why did not the NRA come out and say, like it said with the school employees killed in Newtown, CT, "Had Trayvon been armed, he would have killed Zimmerman." Because self-defense is not a right given to black people.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/15/the-us-v-trayvon-martin/

Juries tend to dismiss self-defense claims of blacks when the person who dies is white.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/07/15/2297541/self-defense-zimmer...

When white boys drink and smoke pot, they are not judged to be headed for "the thug life culture that spans [sic] the little gansta [sic] wanna bees," to use the expression of the first comment.

For white people who can't understand these things, try reading some testimonials from

http://wearenottrayvonmartin.tumblr.com/

afadel
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afadel 07/16/13 - 06:16 am
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Are Trayvon's Parents Stalking Zimmerman?

The ACES uses hyperbole to discredit blacks' defense of their right to walk down a street without armed vigilantes following them. It writes:

The very people who bitterly complain that George Zimmerman stalked Trayvon Martin now seem intent on dogging Zimmerman ...

Does it have evidence that Trayvon's parents are "dogging" Zimmerman? Or the NAACP? Or any recognized body? Or are individuals expressing their frustrations on Twitter now a way to judge the entire movement it took to even have the Sanford police investigate the incident.

BTW, how many racist, threatening tweets and comments in its own web site against non-whites does the ACES write about?

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/16/13 - 06:30 am
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afadel, how about testimony

afadel, how about testimony concerning death threats by the Zimmerman's themselves. Is that evidence enough? Read the article and watch the video.

"The Zimmermans said that because of "an enormous amount of death threats," they, too, have remained in hiding and still don't feel safe enough to return to their home in Orlando, Fla. "

http://abcnews.go.com/US/zimmermans-parents-hiding-enormous-amount-death...

myfather15
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myfather15 07/16/13 - 06:31 am
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The lamestream media MUST

The lamestream media MUST protrait the United States as still being a racist, bigoted Country!! How else can they still proclaim that we must move further left? How else can they continue their march to move this Country more socialistic/communist? If they admit this Country got this verdict RIGHT and that as a Country; we've moved past the racial days, their fight would be over!! It wouldn't benefit them to admit ANYTHING this Country is going right.

afadel
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afadel 07/16/13 - 06:38 am
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Death Threats Against Zimmermans

I think it's wrong for people to threaten violence George Zimmerman or his family members.

But death threats do not justify the ACES's characterization of the wide ranges of people in the USA and around the wrold who are criticizing the circumstances which led to this killing.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/16/13 - 06:52 am
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Al Sharpton and his band of

Al Sharpton and his band of attention grabbers, will keep this in the media for a while because it benefits HIM; but this story will die!! Why?

Because when this incident happened, the FBI (Federal Law enforcement) looked into this case; even before Florida charged Zimmerman. They interviewed 37 people and they made a determination this case was NOT based upon racial profiling!!

Now, how in the world will the federal government GO AGAINST their OWN ruling? How are they planning to charge him with a federal "Civil Rights" charge, when the Criminal Investigative ARM of the Federal government already determined that RACE was NOT an issue!!

If the federal government succombs to pressure from "Civil Rights" groups and files federal charges; unless they HIDE evidence from the FBI investigation, THEY WILL LOSE, AGAIN!!!! Then, this opens the door for Zimmerman to sue THEM; for unlawful prosecution, especially if they hide evidence from the FBI investigation. This simply CAN NOT happen and if it does; WOW!! You want to talk about a "Civil Rights" violation? But, I guess that's just me assuming that "Civil Rights" also apply to "white people" which could be assuming a lot!! Of course, Zimmerman isn't actually "white" but that's not important; he looks "white" enough to them!!

myfather15
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myfather15 07/16/13 - 06:52 am
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afadel

Can you actually answer one question for me?

This is the question: How is following someone, placing their lives in danger? If you do absolutely NOTHING else besides follow them, how is that placing THEIR life, in danger?

You can look back on my statements about this; as I've said numerous times that MY OPINION is that Zimmerman was an over-zealous, police wannabe!! But do you honestly believe that constitutes a MURDER charge? When the witness testified that Zimmerman was geting plummeted and he actually asked this witness for help!!!

So, he was following someone he thought was suspicious and YES, I greatly question HIS determination of what suspicious actually is!! But from all the evidence, witnesses and testimony, to actually charge this man with MURDER, was ridiculous!! Even the prosecution KNEW this, because they tried to slip in manslaughter at the very last minute and the judge RIGHTLY wouldn't allow it!! The simply fact is, they OVER CHARGED this case!! They succomb to pressure and greatly over charged this case. They should have went for manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter from the beginning and we might be talking about a conviction now. But I'm still not sure they would have convicted, but it would have been a better case!! So, why don't you blame all the people who put pressure on the DA for a MURDER charge? Maybe it's their fault there isn't ANY conviction!!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/16/13 - 07:10 am
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"Only the ACES Could Make
Unpublished

"Only the ACES Could Make Zimmerman the Victim"

NO..... Trayvon Martin made Zimmerman the victim when he committed assault on him. Nothing Zimmerman did was illegal. The first illegal act was committed by Martin, and it cost him his life.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 07/16/13 - 07:13 am
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Zimmerman doesn't feel safe

Zimmerman doesn't feel safe in his home? How about his truck? Since authorities told him to stop following Martin, he should have stayed in his truck and gone home. If he had followed the instructions of authorities and not continued to play wanna be cop and continued to stalk Martin, even leaving the safety of his truck, he'd feel al kinds of safe at his home right now. And so would Trayvon and his family.

bubbasauce
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bubbasauce 07/16/13 - 07:14 am
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You are so right on your

You are so right on your comments myfather15!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/16/13 - 07:30 am
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Zimmerman was not told by
Unpublished

Zimmerman was not told by "authorities" to do anything. He was told by a 911 operator, who has zero authority to tell you to do anything. You say if he had not followed him, then things would be different. True, but that was not against the law. If Martin had not broken the law, none of this would have happened. THAT is an inconvenient fact that you keep glossing over. Sorry Bod, but you are wrong again. But that is what happens when you make up your own facts to bolster your argument, again and again.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/16/13 - 07:57 am
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EVERYONE acts like this

EVERYONE acts like this trayvon is just some little angel walking on the sidewalk in broad daylight and old george drives up to him, slams on the breaks and wastes him right there for no reason..1st i cannot imagine losing a son in any manner. 2nd-the reason george probably got out of the truck is because he lost sight of trayvon ..and was wondering where he went to..when he looked around and could not find him**i believe the testimony said he was going back to the truck**when trayvon confronted him**and suckered punched him and sent him to the ground...when he lost sight of trayvon ..i believe it was perfectly normal as a community watcher to get out and peer around..got to remember there was only 4 minutes that transpired so its not a lot of time to stalk trayvon especially when he lost sight of him..3rd-- trayvon was at his dad place because of suspension for theft in his miami high school...4th-he was found not-guility..perhaps because part of the testimony was that trayvon told zimmerman he was going to die that night as he beat him....4th --again its sad i cant imagine losing one of my sons**let it be for all concerned**its not a hate crime**its a tragedy..

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:13 am
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All the black hysteria is

All the black hysteria is ridiculous-do these agitators understand this is the New South and we all live and work together now-intermarrying. The schools were integrated a long time ago and we have all grown up together. I have people of all ethnicities at my home often-they are my friends, neighbors, and people I work with. Apparently all of us were missed the message we were suppose to "hate" each other. Seems some just want to stir up the past-while the rest are living in the future. Of course there is still racism-such as the Attorney General wanting to pursue a civil rights violation after FBI found no evidence of it is a pretty good argument he didn't like the outcome so let's metaphorically lynch Zimmerman. As I said yesterday Zimmerman received a death sentence of being a pariah who likely never land a job-might as well put him in prison. But of course there's the racism on the other side where we see people talk about da hood will get him. Now if he is murdered by "the hood" will there be cry for Zimmerman's civil rights and racism again? How many times have we seen protest in the black community over an African-american individual sitting on death row or in prison after being found guilty by a jury of peers-protest of civil right violations and wanting "justice". I think "justice" must have a different semantics-it always has to go in favor of the black man seems the notion. But see it is all about social justice so they drag up slavery or the 60s and feel it justifies their behavior. My old boss was a black man and my President of US is a black man-if a black man feels oppressed these days it is self-imposed delusion with all the opportunities this land offers. I have several friends who have come from Africa to America and they are doing very well in this country.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/16/13 - 08:08 am
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Lawsuit against nbc/msnbc

I understand Zimms lawyers will proceed with the suit againt them...rightly so.
They spliced & diced a 911 call & made it juicy.....it is time for the national media to face the fact they sensationalize the news to gain an audience....it happens everyday.

and the sheep follow blindly.....with just a tinkle of the bell....baa baa

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/16/13 - 08:12 am
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Black - American Unrest Since 1980

Black Unrest Since 1980 has accounted for over 14 riots incited by a handful of Race Baiters, which resulted in over 750 deaths.

The leaders of the "Appeal to Reason" should not allow their pulpit to be co-opted or highjacked and used as a "Appeal to Emotions" and destruction.

Men and Women of Peace should remember in each Riot case in the
USA to date, more death and destruction was inflected on the
Rioters and their communities, than those they were rioting
against, or about.

Raise Your Voice - Not Your Hand

Riots are not a solution and they only harm the Black Community in many ways for many years later.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/16/13 - 08:14 am
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Working behind the scene

It has been told this am from reliable sources that our very own RCSO kept some loud mouths from spewing their vermin to the masses...I say thank you.......too bad you couldn't stop the loud mouth Falcons player from spouting off....he said the jurors should go home & kill themselves...what a crock...later recanted...yaknow..like P Deen....but will he lose HIS job??His sponsors.....

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/16/13 - 08:16 am
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Bizkit- Just finish read your comment

Well said and I agree with you.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:16 am
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Too bad MLKjr isn't alive to

Too bad MLKjr isn't alive to voice reason, peace, and the love of Jesus Christ. He was awesome!!!!!!!

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 07/16/13 - 08:20 am
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That the prosecution failed for lack of a case is plain to see.

What surprises me is how few complaints I've heard or read about all of these celebrities and pundits who've used the case as a platform for their own self-aggrandizement and sense of importance. Most of them really are as stupid as their tweets, but they're shameless, all the same. And, yes, some people really do have a vested interest in exploiting a misinformed public.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/16/13 - 08:23 am
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Regard the Zimmerman being TOLD NOT TO FOLLOW

Listen to the unedited 911 call with transcript on Youtube.

He was never TOLD to quit following.

The 911 Operator said ...
We Don't Need you to follow him any more.

The wording or DON'T WANT vs. Don't Need makes a big difference.

One is an ORDER the other is a suggestion.

Besides 9-1-1 operators are usually just following computer generated script.

So in all actuality a Computer Programmer suggested he not follow.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/16/13 - 08:31 am
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why does this surprise

why does this surprise us...these are the same low information voters who believe anything they are told from obumler and the press..ignorance knows no shame..

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 07/16/13 - 08:36 am
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I see the "fact maker uppers"
Unpublished

I see the "fact maker uppers" have fled.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/16/13 - 08:38 am
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Neighborhood Watches Are Encouraged

Before the media knew Zimmerman was Hispanic the matter was built into a racial attack. That was the big mistake here. Z was anything but a racist. Black people had lived in his home when he was growing up. He mentored two black kids. He took a black girl to the prom in high school.

Neighborhood watches are encouraged by almost all police jurisdictions. Many departments provide radios and some even carts for the volunteers to drive. Z had a legal right to have a gun and follow Martin. It was a community service he was performing.

From the evidence Martin was the one beating Z up and Z was the one calling for help although the prosecutor tried to say differently for at least a while. Martin also had a questionable past. Yeah, sad a 17 year old was killed, but you can’t attack people who follow you and ask questions. Is anyone actually saying neighborhood watch people shouldn’t be able to ask people what they are doing? Especially if they are looking in houses and cars.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/16/13 - 08:41 am
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The media is keeping this

The media is keeping this going because nothing else is going on right now. This will blow over, just like everything else.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:48 am
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The progressive media loves

The progressive media loves it because it takes the spotlight off the whitehouse and all the scandals.

faithson
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faithson 07/16/13 - 05:48 pm
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'many folks believe just as

'many folks believe just as strongly that this case was filed as much for political reasons as legal.' and HERE is the rub... those of you who think this whole incident was a political witch hunt, disregarding that a law may have been broken. The jury has spoken, yet some would have been satisfied to not even have a jury put its two cents in. Those are the people that upset me, thinking vigelante justice has some place in our civilized society. you know who you are. all seven of U so far.

afadel
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afadel 07/16/13 - 08:57 am
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Is Following Placing Life in Danger?

@myfather15 07/16/13 - 06:52 am

No, following in and of itself does not place one's life in danger. But a natural reaction of a person walking alone, when followed, is to perceive danger.

Perhaps murder wasn't the right charge, but I'm not a lawyer to know what Florida law allowed the prosecutors to come up with. Is there such a thing as negligent homicide? Isn't that when a person's irresponsible actions (neglecting the dispatcher's suggestions to remain in the vehicle, violating the neighborhood watch policies, not being properly trained to accost people in the street) lead to a person's death?

People are forgetting that the initial demonstrations in the wake of the killing were for a simple police investigation, which the Sanford police failed to do. My guess is that the prosecutors, knowing that Zimmerman had done something wrong, charged him with what they thought they had the best chance of winning with.

My problem with this editorial is not with the Florida prosecutors or Zimmerman's attorneys, who are obligated to use whatever techniques to win their case, or the jurors. My problem is the editorial's insistence, with the agreement of many commentators here, that Zimmerman, while not acting perfectly, is a victim of the "liberal" media and the American civil rights movement.

We'll never know what really happened. Provided nobody commits a violent crime, I'm sure the Zimmermans will within a few years get their lives back. That's a lot better deal than Trayvon and his family have.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/16/13 - 08:58 am
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This is the sad part...

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS ......

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/65527-in-513-days-between-trayvon-shooti...

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