Keeping the faith

More of us should take stand against birth-control mandate

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While Democrats wailed about a phony-baloney GOP “war on women” in last year’s election cycle, they were preparing for a real battle against religious Americans.

Never mind the attempted assault on the faith-minded Chick-fil-A after an executive there merely said he supported traditional marriage. That assault failed miserably, thank goodness, with fans of the restaurant chain overwhelming it with support across the country.

More ominously, the federal health-care law requires employers to offer birth-control coverage, even if it violates a business owner’s deeply held religious beliefs in the sanctity of life.

In short, if anyone’s at war, this administration is with religious people and institutions.

The problem is, the religious aren’t fighting back much.

When Catholics and a few others squawked about the birth-control mandate, the Obama administration reluctantly agreed to exempt purely religious facilities. But the exemptions don’t include many faith-based organizations and their civic and social work offshoots, or secular businesses owned by people with religious views that are contrary to birth control.

There’s also the rather fundamental question of why it is that Americans must go to our rulers on bended knee to seek waivers in order to exercise their basic human and constitutional rights.

Since then, a few entities have fought a lonely battle against an emboldened Obama administration to secure their religious liberties. By proxy, they’re fighting for our rights as well.

Arts and crafts company Hobby Lobby is among the most prominent. And this past week, the chain won a huge, if partial and temporary, battle: The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it can continue fighting the birth-control mandate in court without having to pay massive fines for being in noncompliance with Obamacare. The fines would’ve started Monday.

It’s amazing that an appeals court would even have to provide such protection. Why would the Obama administration even seek to levy crippling, if not fatal, fines on a business for its trying to defend its owners’ constitutional rights? And why would any trial judge go along with it?

Be that as it may, any freedom-loving American should be thankful the appeals court provided Hobby Lobby that very reasonable, compassionate protection from an overbearing and oppressive government.

In fact, the judges expressed what amounts to legal sympathy for the company’s predicament.

“Would an incorporated kosher butcher really have no claim to challenge a regulation mandating non-kosher butchering practices?” they wrote.

The Associated Press reports that “More than 30 businesses in several states have challenged the contraception mandate.” That’s encouraging, but hardly enough. More people of faith need to stand up for their religious rights.

Now is the time. This is a red line on constitutional rights that, once crossed, may never be restored.

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Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 07/02/13 - 07:53 pm
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"I repeat, if everybody is

"I repeat, if everybody is expected to contribute to the welfare of this country, then this county has to be expected to contribute to the welfare of everybody."

Get back to me when everybody contributes to the welfare of this country....

carcraft
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carcraft 07/02/13 - 07:54 pm
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Well, already Obama care is failing

Just heard Obama is extending the deadline for employers to provide mandatory health care insurance....Just to much of a burden at this point so it gets put off for a year...And so it starts..

myfather15
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myfather15 07/02/13 - 08:59 pm
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Burninator 4:44 pm post

I'm quite sure in the early 1930's the Jew's were thinking just as you described! "Nothing that bad is going to happen!"

Dietrich Bonhoeffer warned Germany for years prior to the holocaust, that bad things were coming. What did they call him? Crazy, nuts, insane, religious zealot, idiot and so forth. Then what happened? Everything he said would happen, HAPPENED!! Then he was murdered by the Nazi's. For someone to be so blind to the true intentions of the communists, is scary!! But you aren't alone, thats the worst part.

See, there is a big difference in common liberal thinkers; like some on this post, and the RADICAL LEFT ACTIVISTS!! The common liberal thinkers are being USED by the Radical George Soros liberal activists, and they don't even know it. They believe hook, line and sinker what they've been told their whole lives and it's just plain wrong!!

But the radical left activists absolutely have a deep, dark agenda and that is to take down America!! But the battle goes deeper than that, America is just symbolic of God and HE is the one they really want to take down, because the radicals are working for their father!!

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specsta 07/02/13 - 10:55 pm
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Lord, Save Me From Your Followers

Reading some of the comments on this opinion board makes me quite sad. It is evident that a complete brainwashing has taken place in our society, especially among those who profess to be Christians.

Open thought and the free expression of ideas has been squeezed into a regurgitation of ignorance, heralded by the "pat myself on the head" attitude of those who imagine themselves to be better than someone else.

These religious zealots can somehow always find a cobweb-covered Biblical verse to prove how wonderful they are, and how rotten everyone else is - all the while saying "Amen".

They thumb their nose at those who must seek government assistance. They condemn a woman who undergoes the most difficult decision imaginable - the decision to end a pregnancy. They claim their religious freedom is being taken away - while at the same time try to restrict what others may read, may see, may listen to or whom they might marry.

Their hypocrisy is the size of the "Red Spot" hurricane on Jupiter - and no less deadly and sinister:

"Need birth control? Tough - and don't expect us to help pay for that baby when it comes.

Pregnant? Tough - and don't expect any help keeping that baby healthy.

Out of work? That's your problem - don't take money out my pocket to pay for unemployment benefits and food stamps. You don't work, you don't eat. That's in the Bible. We don't understand the context of that verse, but it sounds okay to us.

Need to see a doctor? Well if you weren't so lazy and had a job, you could pay for it yourself. Don't expect me to do it.

In jail? Well, if you hadn't messed up your life, you wouldn't be there would you? Tough."

This conservative Christian, religious zealot mindset is so far removed from the actual teachings of Jesus, it is almost laughable. They forget that Jesus considered himself to be a servant, one who loved greatly and exhibited unimaginable compassion on the needy, the hungry, the homeless, the widows, the harlots, the rejected, the sick and the downtrodden.

No one had to "fix themselves up first" to be loved by Jesus.

And here we are in the 21st century - allowing GREED to reign as god and MEANNESS to be the guiding light.

What a sick joke this has become...

dahreese
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dahreese 07/02/13 - 11:12 pm
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@Gage Creed
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"Get back to me when everybody contributes to the welfare of this country....:

So, what do you do in the meantime, get all you can, can all you get?

That the best you've got?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/03/13 - 12:22 am
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Everybody has to "choose"

Everybody has to "choose" their path. I respect others choices even if I disagree-as I would hope a return for my beliefs. I once thought Buddhism an interesting philosophy but I realized that enlightenment wouldn't likely come from within-as I am much like an island so if it ain't there it ain't there. Really no interest in the supernatural or spirituality till late in life. I still don't belief in ghosts, aliens, bigfoot, or many supposed supernatural events-now the Chupacabra is another story. LOL..

dahreese
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dahreese 07/03/13 - 09:21 am
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@specsta 07/02/13 - 10:55 pm
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@specsta 07/02/13 - 10:55 pm

Thank you.

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Fiat_Lux 07/03/13 - 11:39 am
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@ Specta,

You really are something. You have absolutely NO CLUE why birth control is proscribed by the Catholic Church, why it is, in fact, such a very bad and destructive act, yet you somehow consider yourself qualified to opine against it even though it's something you don't even understand. How incredibly shallow, and how arrogant of you.

If your going to voice an opinion about something like this, you have an obligation at least to learn something about what it is you disagree with. You are a figurative "low-information voter" when it comes having a say or opinion regarding Catholic, or perhaps any, moral theology. You, like so many others who shoot off their mouths (or keyboards) about birth control and abortion get your information from other anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-self-restraint low-information voters like Jon Steward and Maureen Dowd, and other Obama-loving sycophants.

Try going to the source for a change and see for yourself what it is you are saying you object to. At least that is intellectually honest as opposed to just spouting libtard talking points, although with a good level of manufactured pathos, to be sure.

I don't care how "difficult" a decision it is, killing your baby before it is born--ripping apart the person you conceived by your own choice of action--is nothing but murder, violent, disgusting and evil murder.

It is the most selfish of acts, choosing to place yourself, your limited vision, your short-sighted focus and fear, over and above the very life of your own child, your own flesh and blood, when every parent, regardless of their circumstances, has a moral obligation and eternal accountability regarding the welfare and eternal destination of that child.

(And conception resulting from rape is a consideration that requires far more subtlety of intellect and light years more understanding of the theology of being than almost anyone commenting here likely is equipped to handle, including yours truly. Therefore, those exceedingly rare instances of pregnancy are off the current discussion table.)

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/03/13 - 11:45 am
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and @dahreese, 11:12 am

Perhaps you failed to understand GageGreed. In case you did, he was pointing out the relentless hypocrisy of the hack, charlatans and thieves on the Left who are destroying the money making engine of this nation, along with the middle class as they steal our livelihood and "redistribute" it to people who do nothing, have never contributed anything to our nation but more mouths to feed and minds to attempt to educate, as well as to people in other nations who want to kill us, enrich themselves with our "foreign aid", and live like kings on the backs of their own miserable people.

Get it now?

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 07/03/13 - 02:27 pm
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I planned to respond to

I planned to respond to dahreese... but that has been aptly handled by Fiat...

BTW... I do get all I can, can all I can, and I help those who help themselves.

Oh yeah... That's not the best I have... but it's more than enough

dahreese
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dahreese 07/03/13 - 03:52 pm
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If I said something like
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If I said something like this, "You, like so many others who shoot off their mouths (or keyboards) about birth control and abortion get your information from other anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-self-restraint low-information voters like Jon Steward and Maureen Dowd, and other Obama-loving sycophants", somebody would be pushing the little red "flag for review."

Not that I care....

dahreese
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dahreese 07/03/13 - 04:10 pm
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@Fiat__Lux "In case you did,
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@Fiat__Lux

"In case you did, he was pointing out the relentless hypocrisy of the hack, charlatans and thieves on the Left who are destroying the money making engine of this nation...."

On the left?

If you are representative of the "right" seems to me you're talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time.

As I recall, it's been the left who protested the corruption of Wall Street while the "right" put them down for doing so.....

Specsta is correct; "This conservative Christian, religious zealot mindset is so far removed from the actual teachings of Jesus, it is almost laughable. They forget that Jesus considered himself to be a servant, one who loved greatly and exhibited unimaginable compassion on the needy, the hungry, the homeless, the widows, the harlots, the rejected, the sick and the downtrodden.

No one had to "fix themselves up first" to be loved by Jesus.

And here we are in the 21st century - allowing GREED to reign as god and MEANNESS to be the guiding light.

You and Gage Creed can have your philosophy of "get all you can and can all you get" if that's what floats your boats, but don't go calling yourselves 'Christian' in the process.

You fail to understand Specsta, whose philosophy and understand of Christianity is more Christian than any conservative's on here.

It is, in part, due to "Christian" folks like you and Gage Creed that I no longer call myself "Christian."
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"I don't care how "difficult" a decision it is, killing your baby before it is born--ripping apart the person you conceived by your own choice of action--is nothing but murder, violent, disgusting and evil murder. "

How'bout 'after' they are born? Why not just slit their throats and sent them on to heaven?

If you love them, then why let them run the risk of hell?

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 07/03/13 - 04:29 pm
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"How'bout 'after' they are

"How'bout 'after' they are born? Why not just slit their throats and sent them on to heaven?"

That's what your squires like Kermit Gosnell do....

What if we drop the the rhetoric and get down to the crux of the matter... Those that work eat, if you are too blind to understand this principle then there is no hope. You call others greedy... remember Envy and Sloth are equal partners to greed.

dahreese
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dahreese 07/03/13 - 10:06 pm
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"Those that work eat, if you
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"Those that work eat, if you are too blind to understand this principle then there is no hope."

I worked. I retired. I eat. I sleep. I'm comfortable. I own my home. I own my car and my truck and I don't feel the need like you and those like you, for putting people down who haven't been as fortunate as I have.

Folks who think like you should keep this in mind;

"~The Fear of God~

If you should rise from Nowhere up to Somewhere,
From being No one up to being Someone,
Be sure to keep repeating to yourself
You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination.
Stay unassuming. If for lack of license
To wear the uniform of who you are,
You should be tempted to make up for it
In a subordinating look or tone,
Beware of coming too much to the surface
And using for apparel hat was meant
To be the curtain of the inmost soul. "

This poem is better than any bible verse you'll find.

"You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination."

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 07/04/13 - 12:03 pm
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You may want to check

You may want to check yourself... It's not me or those like me looking down on the folks you speak of...it's "you" placing them on a pedestal...

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