Keeping the faith

More of us should take stand against birth-control mandate

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While Democrats wailed about a phony-baloney GOP “war on women” in last year’s election cycle, they were preparing for a real battle against religious Americans.

Never mind the attempted assault on the faith-minded Chick-fil-A after an executive there merely said he supported traditional marriage. That assault failed miserably, thank goodness, with fans of the restaurant chain overwhelming it with support across the country.

More ominously, the federal health-care law requires employers to offer birth-control coverage, even if it violates a business owner’s deeply held religious beliefs in the sanctity of life.

In short, if anyone’s at war, this administration is with religious people and institutions.

The problem is, the religious aren’t fighting back much.

When Catholics and a few others squawked about the birth-control mandate, the Obama administration reluctantly agreed to exempt purely religious facilities. But the exemptions don’t include many faith-based organizations and their civic and social work offshoots, or secular businesses owned by people with religious views that are contrary to birth control.

There’s also the rather fundamental question of why it is that Americans must go to our rulers on bended knee to seek waivers in order to exercise their basic human and constitutional rights.

Since then, a few entities have fought a lonely battle against an emboldened Obama administration to secure their religious liberties. By proxy, they’re fighting for our rights as well.

Arts and crafts company Hobby Lobby is among the most prominent. And this past week, the chain won a huge, if partial and temporary, battle: The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it can continue fighting the birth-control mandate in court without having to pay massive fines for being in noncompliance with Obamacare. The fines would’ve started Monday.

It’s amazing that an appeals court would even have to provide such protection. Why would the Obama administration even seek to levy crippling, if not fatal, fines on a business for its trying to defend its owners’ constitutional rights? And why would any trial judge go along with it?

Be that as it may, any freedom-loving American should be thankful the appeals court provided Hobby Lobby that very reasonable, compassionate protection from an overbearing and oppressive government.

In fact, the judges expressed what amounts to legal sympathy for the company’s predicament.

“Would an incorporated kosher butcher really have no claim to challenge a regulation mandating non-kosher butchering practices?” they wrote.

The Associated Press reports that “More than 30 businesses in several states have challenged the contraception mandate.” That’s encouraging, but hardly enough. More people of faith need to stand up for their religious rights.

Now is the time. This is a red line on constitutional rights that, once crossed, may never be restored.

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justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 03:41 pm
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Mr Bledsoe

Paul Ryan is your man.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/02/13 - 03:40 pm
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t2bledsoe

What about 220 Million going to Puerto Rico for them to ship Rum to the United States?

What about 450 Million going to the railroads (one of the richest private industries in existence) for them to repair their tracks? I would think this would be a business expense for them, NOT taxpayer funded.

What about 18 million for research as to why prostitutes in Chile are rampant with STD's?

What about 20 million to CHINA, of all Countries, to help them better their social programs!! This is probably the WORST in my eyes. China is our biggest lender; we borrow hundreds of BILLIONS from them. So why are we spending taxpayer dollars to help THEIR social programs? What I want to know is, did they take this off our tab or was this a gift?

We DO NOT have to cut medicare/medicaid!! What we must do is STOP WASTEFUL SPENDING!! All pork spending GONE!! Criminally prosecute ANY representative found giving special contracts to family and friends or giving earmarks.

burninater
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burninater 07/02/13 - 04:03 pm
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T3bledsoe, you keep bringing

T3bledsoe, you keep bringing up the very thing that makes the "low info welfare voter" BS fall apart:

Medicare and SS. Our deficit last year, for example, was $1.2 trillion. Our offsetting receipts for mandatory spending programs was $193 billion. Our spending on Medicare ONLY and SS (old age and survivors benefits) ONLY was $1.6 trillion. $1.6 trillion - $193 billion = $1.4 trillion. Spending on seniors ALONE exceeds our ENTIRE ANNUAL DEFICIT.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/BS_Mandatory...

Are Republicans and TPers ready to put their money where their mouth is? You know how it goes -- if you are a low info, dependent senior that expects gubbermint to give you handouts, maybe you should just move to Cuba? America won't survive these seniors sitting on their porches waiting for their monthly checks? Spread the word, people! We have an entire dependent class, sucking the lifeblood from our country!

Or maybe the reality is more complicated than the finger-pointing Just So Stories?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 03:53 pm
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Cool-aid drinkers

I have to believe that some of this anti-Obama, anti-liberal news must be coming from unreliable COOL-AID DRINKERS.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/02/13 - 03:54 pm
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dahreese

The only reason you would be "looking over your shoulder" is if you were wanting to do something that isn't moral!!

The same is true in this very life or dispensation of time. Perfect example would be drug dealers. I've literally heard drug dealers say after getting arrested "Man, I'm glad to be going to jail. I need a break, I can't even sleep at night."

Why can't they sleep? Because of THEIR LIFE CHOICE!! They are always nervous! They never know when their door is going to get kicked in by law enforcement and their house searched. Also, they never know if other drug dealers are going to do a home invasion on them, robbing and possibly killing them. They never seem to get TRUE REST!!

Me personally, I sleep extremely well EVERY night. Why? Because I KNOW I have nothing to hide. I've done nothing illegal!! I know the GBI isn't coming looking for me tomorrow. I know they aren't kicking my door in, during the middle of the night and if they do, I KNOW DARN WELL they will find NOTHING!! I also KNOW I'm not cheating on my wife! I'm not going to get a crazy girlfriend coming to my house, causing drama! My wife isn't going to see a text message on my phone that I forgot to erase!! I sleep VERY well and live in PEACE!! So, I don't look over my shoulder as it is and I'm not worried about having to look over my shoulder at God. He isn't quite the bad guy you think He is!!

Of course, if you make it past the millenium and into eternity, you won't have these desires to do immoral things.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/02/13 - 04:00 pm
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Dahreese, it is truly sad

Dahreese, it is truly sad that you have had such a horrible experience with God, church, and Christians. Seriously it is. How can you live in fear of something you don’t even believe in? If you don’t believe there is an Almighty God and that He is the creator, the Lord of all, then why would you even give Him a second thought.....why would you even consider His wrath? It means nothing to you. God is not looking over your shoulder either. He is standing at the door of your heart, knocking, waiting. Only those who know Him personally need to worry about pleasing God.

I fail to see how you can judge my expectation of church or the sermon when you know nothing about me except that I believe in Almighty God and try and live by His Will.

I do not need to hear how “bad” I am or how guility I should feel. I know I am a wretched human being and guilty of a lot of stuff but Thank God Almighty I serve a Savior who has paid the price and no matter what I do, He is there to correct me, forgive me and teach me and love me. I obey because of my love for Him, what He has done for me, not because of my own personal comfort or anything I have done.

As for sermons, every message from God is a good sermon, whether it steps on my toes and convicts me of something I am doing wrong or uplifts my spirit in praise for who He is. I am sorry you can’t comprehend that kind of love. You are missing out on so much.

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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 04:01 pm
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burninater @ 3:52

I don't doubt your figures about SS and Mcare. My question is,"Do SS and Mcare recipients need to feel as shameful as welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid recipients ??"

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 04:01 pm
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t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 04:06 pm
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justthefacts @ 4:01

Unfortunately, means testing is going to have to be used in order to fix the SS and Mcare problems.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/02/13 - 04:16 pm
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"The problem is, the religious aren’t fighting back much."

And there is the crux of the matter, plain and simple.

The truth is, most people simply don't believe the new Nazis are really out to get us, even though they really are dead set on destroying free expression of religious faith in America.

We're just like so many European Jews, who even after being forcibly loaded into cattle cars and transported to camps, seriously did not believe the showers were anything but, well, showers. Right up to the moment the doors were locked from the outside and the gas came on.

They simply couldn't believe such savagery, such hatred would be directed at them to the point of murdering them wholesale. After all, it was the 20th Century and Europe represented the pinnacle of human civilization. Who could believe such a thing?

Believe it, my friends, because people who hate religious faith, especially those who hate Christians and Jews, will do anything to stamp it out. We are a constant, always present irritation, a reminder of the Truth of a loving and living God. Despots don't like being reminded of God because they believe they must occupy that spot in all other people's lives.

We are catching glimpses of hell these days, and look at how it is being celebrated. The protected murder of unborn babies and unfettered legal protection for something that doesn't even exist in reality, ie, homosexual 'marriage', cause jubilation in government offices and on public streets.

(And, beyond this mention, I'm not including the Syrian rebels we are supporting who merrily, self-righteously beheaded three priests last week, one a Syrian Catholic priest and at least one, a Syrian Orthodox bishop. Yet no outrage from virtually any corner.)

Kristallnacht had nothing on us, by golly.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/02/13 - 04:08 pm
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Walk the talk

1) do not teach sex education
2) no abortions (I am in favor of that under certain circumstances)
3) do not use your health insurance to buy contraceptives
4) and when you do have a baby, we will deny you the opportunity to participate in a national healthcare program
5) and we will cut food stamps that might assist working parents in feeding those children they did not abort.
Note: if you are male you can use medical coverage for Viagra so you can get someone pregnant and the cycle starts all over gain

When we have as much concern for the born as the unborn, we will truly make a difference. Until then, the rhetoric rings pious and hollow.

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burninater 07/02/13 - 04:36 pm
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JTF, the Republican plan has

JTF, the Republican plan has a serious flaw:

"Individuals 55 and older will remain in the current system and will not be affected by this proposal in any way: they will receive the benefits they have been promised, and have planned for, during their working years."

Current average life expectancy is 79, it will likely continue to rise.

The Republicans are proposing to fund SS at its current level for AT LEAST another 25 years? While CUTTING taxes? Wh-what? And they are going to simultaneously reduce FICA revenue by channeling a percentage into private accounts?

Give me some of what they're smoking, man!

On the flip side, all Obama came up with was the chained-CPI proposal to limit social security payments in the future, and his party freaked out even at that.

NEITHER party has a realistic plan for this.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 04:20 pm
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Truth Matters @ 4:08

"When we have as much concern for the born as the unborn, we will truly make a difference. Until then, the rhetoric rings pious and hollow."

The problem is society has no way of forcing people to become responsible. It is very frustrating to know the solution and yet no way to enforce the solution !!

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 04:20 pm
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It's a real conumdrum

Yep Truth, we have a big problem don't we? Can we teach morals and responsibilty along with the sex education? Or would that be considered judgemental, sexist, racist, religious, or something else?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 04:29 pm
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justthefacts @ 4:20

"Yep Truth, we have a big problem don't we? Can we teach morals and responsibilty along with the sex education? Or would that be considered judgemental, sexist, racist, religious, or something else?"

If the schools are going to have to teach sex ed. then the schools MUST have the right to teach responcibility. You don't have to teach morality in order to teach responcibility !

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 04:33 pm
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Ryan's plan

His plan addresses your concerns. He does not say anything about cutting the tax. Private accounts would reduce the amount owed by the system and he advocates indexing. It is not perfect, but it's a start. The Democrats refuse to even discuss it.

burninater
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burninater 07/02/13 - 04:44 pm
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Well heck Fiat, if you REALLY

Well heck Fiat, if you REALLY believe that, if you REALLY believe that, among others, elderly lesbian couples and atheists are NAZIS that secretly don't just want to marry but actually want to EXTERMINATE YOU, then RISE UP. They're going to round you up and MURDER! MASS MURDER GAY WEDDING RECEPTION KRISTALLNACHT!

How can anyone REALLY believe that, and not immediately act?

It makes me believe that actually, people are venting because they don't like current civil rights trends, and can only lash out with Nazi tirades. The really don't believe ANY of their Nazi analogies will come to pass, or they'd actually be rising up to save their very lives.

It's great political theater though. The other people are worse than Nazis! It's like taking everything Bill Maher has done and raising it to the next level of pure poisonous screed.

Of course, it's entirely insulting to those that actually experienced the atrocities of the Holocaust and perpetuates the sense that some people are just having temper tantrums.

But heck, if that's the desired effect, it's a free country.

Edit: on second thought, "insulting" is too kind a word. I'll leave it at that.

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Truth Matters 07/02/13 - 04:41 pm
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Faith

My minister once reminded us that often we are the first, and sometimes only "sermon" some people will see. You can't expect to win over those outside the faith when your talk and behavior are more or as mean-spirited as the unbeliever.

It's time to look at "the man in the mirror" folks.

burninater
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burninater 07/02/13 - 04:42 pm
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He does not say anything

He does not say anything about cutting the tax.
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Jtf, aren't current FICA contributions funding current expenditures? Social security would not be running out of money if this weren't the case. This means that if you divert a portion of current FICA contributions to private accounts, you are cutting the revenue offsetting current expenditures.

It's a simple fact that extending the current system to all those 55 and older is kicking the can down the road another 25 years.

I agree with t3. Treat it, and Medicare, as the income insurance programs they were meant to be, and start means-testing NOW.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 07/02/13 - 04:42 pm
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Done for today

HA has obviously gone, sooo, I guess I am done too. Maybe tomorrow.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/02/13 - 04:43 pm
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"When we have as much concern

"When we have as much concern for the born as the unborn"

When people start taking responsibilty for their sexual activity, the concern for the unborn will no longer be an issue. Our society has great compassion and concern for the born...who do you think feeds, clothes, and educates, those who are less fortunate.

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chascushman 07/02/13 - 04:47 pm
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"When we have as much concern
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"When we have as much concern for the born as the unborn, we will truly make a difference."
TM, most conservatives are against murdering the born as well.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 07/02/13 - 04:57 pm
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All government plans are a

All government plans are a ponzi scheme. They knew this when the first person to receive social security got all the money they paid in, back in 3 years.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 05:04 pm
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Burn

Again, the money diverted to private accts would also reduce the money paid out.
"I agree with t3. Treat it, and Medicare, as the income insurance programs they were meant to be, and start means-testing NOW."
OK, maybe so. But, isn't it a shame that millions of people who paid into the system for 40/50 yrs are now told, too bad, we messed up, you don't really get the money back? And you want these same people to believe the gov't can run the Healthcare system? Really?

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/02/13 - 05:05 pm
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Burn

I'm gone too. Always enjoy bantering with you.

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dahreese 07/02/13 - 07:11 pm
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"Dahreese, it is truly sad
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"Dahreese, it is truly sad that you have had such a horrible experience with God, church, and Christians. Seriously it is. How can you live in fear of something you don’t even believe in?"

That's the difference between what I believe and you believe.

I don't live in fear of something I don't believe in.

And you do live in fear of something you believe in.

That's why you always have to quote bible verses.

burninater
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burninater 07/02/13 - 07:15 pm
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You too JTF, enjoy the

You too JTF, enjoy the evening!

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Michael Atwood 07/02/13 - 07:21 pm
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There is no Constitution

As far as Obama and the Socialist Party (Democrats) of the US are concerned.

dahreese
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dahreese 07/02/13 - 07:29 pm
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"My question is,"Do SS and
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"My question is,"Do SS and Mcare recipients need to feel as shameful as welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid recipients ??"

Those who have contributed to the well being of this country are entitled to a livable portion of its bounty - whether that be from housing, food or medical care.

If everybody is expected to contribute to the welfare of this country, then this county has to be expected to contribute to the welfare of everybody.

It is inaccurate to judge the wealth of a country by using the rich as a measuring stick.

The accurate measuring stick is how well off are its poor.

Are there those on the bottom who are beating the system intended to help those in need?

Of course there are!

Are there those on the top who are beating the system - cheating the middle class, the lower classes, each other?

Of course there are!

But for whatever known reason, some of you continually look down your noses at those on the bottom as though they are the more expensive cheats.

And you do that because you listen and read, day in and day out, to conservative radio and t v personalities, and wallow in conservative publications and editorials because they are so dumbed down.

It wasn't conservatives who gave women the right to vote, fought (and still are fighting) for equal pay to men, allowed them to wear pants instead of dresses and gobs of petticoats, tried to educate men to stop abusing their wives.

I repeat, if everybody is expected to contribute to the welfare of this country, then this county has to be expected to contribute to the welfare of everybody.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/02/13 - 07:44 pm
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(dahreese) "That's the

(dahreese) "That's the difference between what I believe and you believe. I don't live in fear of something I don't believe in. And you do live in fear of something you believe in. That's why you always have to quote bible verse"

Well my dahreese, it seems you don't know much. I do not know why you would think I fear anything I believe or don't believe in. That just doesn't make a lick of sense.....and what does quoting scripture have to do with fearing anything. I quote scripture because it is my Heavenly Father's word. I don't fear things I don't believe in...well because I don't believe in them...pretty simple. As for fearing things I do believe in....if I believe in them and I have my Heavenly Father then why should I fear them. You make no sense at all. Maybe you should rest for this evening.

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