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Court ruling shows where voter fraud dilemma needs to be stopped

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Has a correct court ruling ever had a more damaging effect?

At first blush, the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling that states can’t require proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections looks like a disaster.

That’s only because it is.

But not because the court is wrong. It’s because the other two branches of government are wrong.

The high court ruled by a surprisingly wide margin this week, 7-2, that Arizona’s law requiring proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections was impermissible.

Even conservative court stalwart Justice Antonin Scalia said so. And he’s right. States can’t add their own requirements on top of federal elections.

What Arizona – and other states, including Georgia – have tried to do with such requirements is to prevent voter fraud and, essentially, to protect all Americans’ right to vote. When the system allows gaping holes for fraud, every American’s right to vote is infringed upon because illegal votes dilute legal ones.

The problem is, as the high court has clearly said, this dilemma can’t be solved in Phoenix or Atlanta or any other state capital. It has to be fixed in Washington.

Good luck with that.

Democrats have long made a political calculation that illegal immigration is good for their electoral fortunes. Not only will Democrats not clean up the system, they’ve fought tooth and nail against efforts to do so.

The result may end up being an electoral system that has all the credibility of a Third World nation.

And if the growth in public benefits continues its upward trajectory, we’ll have the economy to match it!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with, and everything is right with, the simple request of proof of citizenship at registration time.

It’s just that, when it comes
to federal elections, Congress and the White House need
to support that kind of safeguard.

They may never.

The only hope of it may be attaching such a requirement to the immigration bill now before the Senate. There’s little hope of that, though, since the Senate is controlled by Democrats.

The Republican-controlled House should never agree to an immigration overhaul that doesn’t require two things: a secure border first, and a secure electoral system.

Without those two things, we’ve all been sold out.

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carcraft
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carcraft 06/21/13 - 05:37 am
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GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

As you said in your editorial, good luck with that. The ONLY way the boarder will be secured and the electoral system fixed is a super majority of conservative Republicans in the House and Senate OR Republicans control all both the House and Senate and the Presidency.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 07:04 am
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ACES does another shallow and sophomoric editorial....
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Justice Scalia is the conservative who wrote the majority opinion in this case. He pointed out the way to pursue the requirement of voter id in order to prove citizenship when registering to vote. The AG of Arizona needs only bring a lawsuit against the U.S. Election Assistance Commission was the suggestion that Scalia made during the oral arguments. Scalia noted that they could use the Louisiana permissions as a basis for their lawsuit. Aside from this, republicans have succeeded in gerrymandering districts in their states to ensure they are represented only by republicans. Also, republicans can thank the Supreme Court for handing them the presidential election in 2000.
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I believe only living certified U.S. Citizens should be able to vote in our elections. I also believe that only people are people. Corporations are NOT people. The bill of rights applies to people NOT TO CORPORATIONS. I also believe that campaign contributions should not include money from persons of foreign governments who will use this to influence who is elected and what services the elected person will do for them. With the "United Citizens" ruling by the Supreme Court, a flood of corporate money has been let loose and superpacs are allowing anonymous donors to put zillions of dollars into the campaign process to influence our elections. At the very least, campaign donors SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE ANONYMOUS!

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deestafford 06/21/13 - 08:20 am
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I maybe wrong but was not that ruling

applicable only to the Motor Voter Bill? I strongly believe a person must show proof of citizenship when registering to vote and a photo ID when voting. Only those who are satisfied with voter fraud are against either of these two requirements.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 06/21/13 - 08:27 am
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Depressing

What can you say? The demographics are irreversable. No longer a matter of if, just when, this country is no longer great.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 08:37 am
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Reuters will tell you more than the ACES....
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this is from the reuters site.......
"Scalia said Arizona could still ask the commission to include a citizenship provision on the federal form in the future and could challenge the current form in separate litigation. "That alternative means of enforcing its constitutional power to determine voting qualifications remains open to Arizona here," he wrote."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-usa-court-voters-idUSBRE95G...
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and by the way.... where is all the proof of voter fraud that the republicans keep crying about?

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 06/21/13 - 08:56 am
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It may be to late for America

It may be to late for America !

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 06/21/13 - 09:05 am
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Show me the evidence of widespread voter fraud.

There is a far better case for tampering with electronic voting machines than there is actual fraud attempted by voters themselves.

chascushman
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chascushman 06/21/13 - 09:12 am
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All you need is someone
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All you need is someone inside the voter registration office. The ONLY REASON to be against voter photo ID is you have something to hide.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 09:16 am
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good point...
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Very good observation, Jon Lester.
It is like Bloomberg watching New York Stock trading transactions on their proprietary software.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 09:19 am
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if people can...
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if people can create fake driver's licenses which have photos ..... then cannot they also create fake voter ids with photos??
It is not like we have 120% of the possible voters casting ballots.... do we?

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 06/21/13 - 10:49 am
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Funny thing about libs...

They want us to jump through hoops, show iD, go through background checks and pay a tax to exercise or rights to bear arms under the 2nd Amendment, a God given right among rights I might add, yet they think that you should be able to vote without so much as proving you are who you say you are.

The hypocrisy on the left knows no bounds.

You can't fly on a plane without showing ID, you can't purchase alcohol without ID, you can't drive without ID, you can't get a post office box without ID, you can't open a bank account without ID, you can't do much of anything without ID.

Liberal logic on display; 14 year olds should be able to buy PlanB abortion tablets without ID or parental consent but its a travesty to require someone to show ID when they vote.

Brad

justthefacts
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justthefacts 06/21/13 - 11:28 am
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Brad

It's not all that hard to understand. They want the votes and nothing else matters. Simple really.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/21/13 - 11:48 am
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States are causing THE PROBLEM as well

Why in the name of sanity can't states be TOLD not to issue anybody a drivers lisence without proof of citizenship ??!!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/21/13 - 12:10 pm
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Quote from editorial

"a secure border first, and a secure electoral system."

A TRULY secure border is going to cost the federal government "BILLIONS" that we allready don't have !! The crapping electorial system IS A DINOSOUR that should be ousted !!

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 01:14 pm
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I found the 2nd
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I found the 2nd commandment..........Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
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but, where do I look in the bible for the god-given 2nd amendment where god states that you have the right to bear arms??????

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 06/21/13 - 03:13 pm
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would rather see the billions "we don't have" spent on securing the border instead of the billions "we don't have" being spent on paybacks and worthless human beings. Period.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 06/21/13 - 03:36 pm
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Jon Lester

"Show me the evidence of widespread voter fraud." ACORN !

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 03:38 pm
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@cobalt
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who are the recipients of these "paybacks" and who are these "worthless human beings"?

allhans
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allhans 06/21/13 - 07:42 pm
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Illinois had several cases of

Illinois had several cases of voter fraud, the voters were tried, convicted and sentenced., Look it up...
Others states had more of the same.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 06/22/13 - 07:56 am
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Show one piece of evidence

Show one piece of evidence that ACORN tried to commit voter fraud.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 06/22/13 - 10:53 am
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"Show me the evidence of

"Show me the evidence of widespread voter fraud."

It doesn't have to be widespread. It only has to be in key districts and/or states. It was recently PROVEN that Obama may well have not been qualified to get on the ballot in a crucial state in 2008 had it not been for fraud. And then there is always the "late reporting" districts in Ohio where the standard question and answer is "How many votes you got?" "How many do you need"

Voter fraud IS already widespread in key districts and states. And with the IRS using it's power to influence elections we ARE ALREADY having third world elections.

justthefacts has it right....."The demographics are irreversible. No longer a matter of if, just when"

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