He fought for what's Fair

Co-founder of the Fair Tax never stopped believing

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Leo Linbeck Jr. was the very embodiment of the American dream. And few people in our time fought as hard to keep it alive for others.

Described variously as a construction mogul, business magnate and a Texas corporate titan, in truth Mr. Linbeck, 78, was the longtime head of a family business, The Linbeck Group, that grew from a construction firm his father started in 1938.

Asked once about his legacy, he said it would be his faith in God and his family. But we will remember him as a man who cared so deeply for this country that he spent his last years fighting to save it financially.

He co-founded Americans for Fair Taxation in 1995 to find out what sort of taxation system would fit the stated desires of polled Americans. A team of nonpartisan economists ultimately designed the Fair Tax, a national sales tax to replace income, payroll and Social Security taxes.

It was a quixotic quest, to be sure. A country’s taxation system is an aircraft carrier that is nearly impossible to turn. But Leo Linbeck never gave up, because he never quit believing in the power of a free people and free markets to lift up humanity.

Imagine the yoke of the income tax removed from the necks of those who turn the plow of this great nation.

A tragic irony this, that Mr. Linbeck should pass at the very time the abuses and excesses of the IRS, fueled by the income tax, are becoming widely known.

His fight will go on. It simply must.

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deestafford
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deestafford 06/21/13 - 06:48 am
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The Fair Tax would be the greatest economic boom to the

country that it has ever seen. I encourage people to go to Fairtax.org and educate themselves on this proposal. Tens of millions of dollars went in to studying what would be the best tax system. The study started off with no one system or idea having an advantage. The indepth study by MIT after looking at all tax structures determined the Fair Tax to be the best system.

For those who want more indepth knowledge there are two books by Neal Boortz: "The Fair Tax Book" and "FairTax the Truth".

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 07:24 am
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For the fair facts and not the spin.....
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go to this site:
http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspinning_the_fairtax.html
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If your income is between 24000 and 200,000, which would be middle income Americans, you would see your tax liability increase. Meanwhile, those with incomes above 200,000 would see their tax liability decrease.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 06/21/13 - 07:39 am
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Rest assured that the main
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Rest assured that the main concern of a bunch of Texas billionaires was to come up with a tax plan that made sure they paid their "fair share" and looked after the working class and the little guys. Just like they made sure that the legal system is Texas is slanted toward industry and not the injured party. It's amazing what millions and millions of dollars in campaign donations can buy isn't it? If you think the "Fair" Tax will be fair to the working class and the middle class, well I'm sure those Texans have some armadillo eggs they'll be happy to sell you.

deestafford
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deestafford 06/21/13 - 08:16 am
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Bod, Please explain

your concept of what the Fair Tax is because it appears your only knowledge is what is gained from the people who have not studied it.

curly123053
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curly123053 06/21/13 - 08:46 am
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FairTax Now !!

The FairTax would be the biggest stimulus this country has ever seen in our lifetime. People who talk down about the FairTax have not studied it in detail or made any effort to learn what it is about. I too was skeptical about the FairTax when I first heard Neal Boortz talking about it in about 2000. Then the more I heard the better it started to make sense. I then started attending monthly meetings of the local FairTax group and in each monthly meeting we learned different topics on how the FairTax would impact areas such as jobs, healthcare, college education, construction, and how those on the lower tiers would practically be paying zero taxes after recieving their monthly "Prebate Check" from the US Treasury......Yes folks....instead of waiting on that partial refund to come around every year we will all be not only bringing home 100% of our paychecks, but getting a monthly "prebate check" from the government to cover expenses up to the poverty level.
Right now roughly 50% of Americans are paying taxes through the Income Tax, which is a tenet of the Communist Manifesto ! Under the FairTax everyone will pay a 23% sales tax on all new goods. There is about 23% hidden federal taxes in every product on store shelves today, from a can of soda, to the meats in the meat coolers. This 23% in hidden taxes will disappear under the FairTax and be replaced with the 23% consumption sales tax. Now, we have 100% of of the population contributing to the US Treasury under the FairTax compared to about 50% currently footing the bill for the 100% of the country. This fact alone will boost the economy like nothing we have ever seen.
Plus, when all the corporate taxes are gone we will see manufactorers coming back to the US to provide jobs like we have never seen, because the current tax system punishes the productivity of corporations. Instead of these companies giving half of their earnings to the government, they will be looking to build their businesses, thereby creating more jobs for all who come here. This forum is not big enough to tout all the positives of the FairTax Amendment. The biggest thing to remember is to stop listening to your community oragnizers say it is bad and oppressive. Anyone who calls the FairTax oppressive has either never looked at the bill, ot they have some ulterior reason to want to see it not move forward.
I can tell you now that the FairTax is not a Republican bill because when I first started following it Bush was President and both Houses of Congress were Rupublican. If this was a Republican bill it would have become law back then. The biggest reason politicians look at this bill with a suspicious eye is because it dilutes the power of the politician to control the masses through the use of the income tax and gives We The People more control over the taxes. Take the time to see what the FairTax is all about before you spew lies and prove you know nothing about it.Go to Fairtax.org and learn about it for yourself instead of having some politician or community organizer tell you what is good for you. Having 10% more money in your pockets each month will be better for you than what any politician tries to sell anytime!

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 06/21/13 - 09:02 am
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I won't speak ill of the dead, but

if the von Mises Institute wasn't sold on the Fair Tax, then I'm not, either.

Ms.Anthrope
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Ms.Anthrope 06/21/13 - 09:22 am
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if factcheck.....
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calls it bad.....then it is bad.

dahreese
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dahreese 06/21/13 - 10:06 am
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The "Fair Tax" is nothing but
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The "Fair Tax" is nothing but a scheme to support the already wealthy.

It is a scheme to make the poor pay a greater percentage of their income in sales tax than the wealthy will pay with their incomes.

It is a scheme to keep the poor poor and the wealthy wealthy.

The economy of this country has not gone down because of "overseas competition", rather it has gone down because what was once "American corporations" and the jobs that went with them are now in foreign countries.

This was decided by American CEOs and the wealthy who own stock in these corporations to do what was in "their" best interest and loyality to America and what was best for Americans was, and still is, flushed down the toilet.

Bodhisattva 06/21/13 - 07:39 am; is correct.
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(Thanks, Jon Lester, for mentioning the von Mises Institute).

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/21/13 - 11:52 am
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Fair tax and low to middle incomes

It is my understanding that the fair tax is a huge sales tax ? If this is true, then will the low and middle income families really be able to afford this ??!!

curly123053
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curly123053 06/21/13 - 01:17 pm
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FairTax Now !!

The FairTax practically untaxes the poor due to the monthly prebate checks we will all be receiving. And Yes, it is a national sales tax of 23%, which is the amount of hidden federal taxes in every product on the store shelves. When the FairTax becomes law, all those hidden taxes will be dropped from the total price of new products. We will not be paying anymore for these products at the cash register than we are now, once the FairTax replaces the hidden taxes. Lots of us will actually be paying less in annual taxes than we are now once 100% of taxpayers are paying the FairTax. The poor and middle income families will end up with more spending and saving money in the pockets per month under the FairTax. Some estimate up to 10% more money a month. One reason why some may not care for the FairTax is because they have been able to get away with paying taxes through loop holes and other means causing the nearly 50% of the rest to have to cover their taxes to keep the government running. Everyone's tax burden eases with 100% of us paying taxes through the FairTax. Please go to www.fairtax.org and see for yourself. There is even a scale to see how large your monthly prebate check will be according to number in the family.

ken8375309
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ken8375309 06/22/13 - 12:04 am
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Fair tax

I would like to see a hands up among naysayers that have actually read the Fair Tax book. After the abuse fiasco with the IRS, it should be more evident than ever that we need to abolish this unconstitutional monster and move to a consumption tax that taxes all citizens and non citizens fairly..

Henryptnm
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Henryptnm 06/22/13 - 06:45 am
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deestafford: If you want

deestafford: If you want indepth knowledge on the Fair Tax, there are two books by Neal Boortz, "The Fair Tax Book" and "Fair Tax, The Truth". Are you realistic? You want us to get knowledge on the Fair Tax on books written by a Radio Talk Jock? Both his books have different conclusions. You can do better than that. If you want knowledge on this tax system, there are websites on the subject instead of reading books written by a radio talk jock. Some people consider Boortz's books, Comic Books.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 06/22/13 - 07:44 am
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Where Tax Day changes from April 15th to every day!!!
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It's magic! That's how it works. Pat answer. "You haven't read the book." Yes, and it's filled with a bunch of nonsense. "You haven't read the second book." You've got me there. I didn't get fooled into buying nonsense twice. Evidently some people did. I can find all of the nonsense for free on their website. Look at all of your utility bills and your grocery bill. Multiply by .30. That's how much extra you'll pay just on those, not counting everything else in your life under this scam. A portion of your mortgage gets taxed. all of your prescription drugs get taxed. They never say if you get taxed on what your co-pay is, but since that's not the real price, it's a pretty good guess that you'll get to pay that 30% extra on the full price. Ask the pharmacist what the real cost of some of your meds are, You'll be surprised. You may have a co-pay of $70 bucks for your meds, but the real cost may be $1,000. add another $300 in taxes per month. Imagine an extra 30 cents per dollar on a gallon of gas. Every new product and every service. But every nickel and dime you get to scrimp and save after all of the new taxes gets to grow tax free. Just like the billions of the guys who made it up. What a coincidence. You get taxed at 100% of your income they get taxed at a fraction of 1% of their. That's why it's "fair" to them.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 06/22/13 - 07:57 am
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Hahaha...what's wrong with

Hahaha...Henry, what's wrong with books written by a radio "talk jock"?

dutchman3
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dutchman3 06/22/13 - 08:02 am
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deestafford,

There was no indepth study by MIT on the Fairtax. My fellow MIT alum, Jim Poterba, did contribute to the research. Here is his reply to my question about just what he did:

"My one page in 1997 has been widely described as an endorsement of the Fairtax, but in fact it was only an arithmetic calculation requested by the Fairtax group. I agreed that IF the base was as broad as they say it could be, THEN a rate along the level they suggest would be feasible.
But I never endorsed the feasibility of such a broad base, nor the absence of evasion, nor the plan in general.”

This is just a small example about the misinformation that exists about the Fairtax scheme.

dutchman3
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dutchman3 06/22/13 - 08:23 am
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Curly123,

You would have been smarter to do your own research rather than attending meetings with a bunch of Fairtax advocates. You are guilty of promoting the long discredited Fairtax "free lunch" myth. The 1997 Jorgenson study on embedded taxes did conclude that there was an average of 22% in tax related costs in the products we buy. But, what you don't understand is that Jorgenson included employee income tax and payroll contributions in his calculations. He assumed we would accept our current net pay for our new gross under the Fairtax. That isn't going to happen for legal, contractual and fairness reasons. If we all get 100% of our pay/pensions, the most that businesses can reduce their costs by the elimination of business income taxes, business share of FICA, and business compliance costs is 10%. Remove the 10% in business tax related costs, add the 30% sales tax at the cash register, and retail prices will have to rise by 17% on average. There is no free lunch!

You are correct that only half of us pay income taxes. But all workers pay FICA under current law. Under the Fairtax, tens of millions of lower income workers may pay no net federal tax due to the prebate, yet all will still receive full Social Security benefits when eligible. Is that the kind of "nanny state" you want? And by the way, the prebate offsets sales taxes, not expenses as you wrote, up to the AFFT adjusted poverty level. The prebate is not a rebate of sales taxes in advance, but is a $600 billion annual cash grant entitlement coming at a time when entitlements are squeezing out discretionary spending in the federal budget. We don't need any more entitlements!

As a senior senior, I don't like the Fairtax scheme because it double taxes my after tax savings which I depend on, and forces me to resume paying for my Social Security benefits with my sales tax dollars. In addition, all middle class retirees would pay more federal tax under the Fairtax than under current tax law. Is that fair?

There is much else wrong with the Fairtax but after two hearings by the House W&M committee, the Fairtax is clearly going nowhere.

Henryptnm
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Henryptnm 06/22/13 - 08:34 am
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What's Wrong?

Riverman1: There is nothing wrong with a book written by a radio talk jock but a book or books on a tax system? Boortz is no expert. You ever done research on Neal Boortz? Boortz graduated from an uncredited law school. Boortz said he passed the bar exam. He wasn't a lawyer long. It doesn't say how good of a lawyer he was. He later became a radio talk jock. Some of his rant on the radio show were racist. I got nothing against Boortz writing books. But of him writing a book or books on a tax system, I will not put any credit on it. His books on the Fair Tax has different conclusions.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 06/22/13 - 10:54 am
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Well

I mean the present system works so well, why would we even consider something else. Don't worry, we won't. Congress would never give up the power.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 06/22/13 - 11:09 am
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Boortz

Previously, in many states, and Georgia was one of them, unaccredited law schools were plentiful. But Boortz graduated from John Marshall and it's accredited. He most certainly did pass the BAR.

I'm not necessarily in favor of the Fair Tax because a local financial guru whom I admire is adamant that it won't work, but Boortz has written books on other subjects and co-authored the fair tax book with John Linder. I wouldn't dismiss him because he is on the radio...goodness.

Henryptnm
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Henryptnm 06/22/13 - 04:01 pm
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Boortz

You didn't do research on Boortz. Neal Boortz graduated from John Marshall Law School and at the time he went there and graduated from there, John Marshall Law School was uncredited at that time. After Boortz graduated from the law school, John Marshall Law school became accredited after Boortz already left. So Boortz graduated from an uncredited law school. I'm not in favor of the Fair Tax because of certain things in it. I would dismiss him because of his radio talk show and some of his rant was racist and uncalled for.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 06/22/13 - 05:54 pm
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Ahhh, but it is an accredited

Ahhh, but it is an accredited law school. Okay. Now, how did you get the idea he didn't pass the BAR exam?

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