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Attorney General Eric Holder has zero credibility and should resign

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The third refuge of the Obama administration is to try to win the press over in private off-the-record briefings that can’t be reported on by participants.

Their first resort, of course, is to lie, which Attorney General Eric Holder seems to have done several times under oath.

The second recourse is to pass the buck – oh, well, that’s the Other Department of the Government, which the White House clearly has nothing to do with. Right.

We’ve now reached the third threshold in the Holder Department of Justice spying scandal: The self-described Most Transparent Administration Ever on This Particular Planet asked for a secret off-the-record indoctrination – er, briefing – of reporters on how the department spied on them.

These people are, officially, above nothing.

Remarkably, and finally, some in the journalistic community said they wouldn’t play this administration’s games anymore. The New York Times and Associated Presss declined to attend the secret session, and CNN, Fox News and others quickly followed. Good for them!

It was also sweet to consider what their refusal to participate in the charade might set up: Suppose a reporter from another agency did attend; he or she couldn’t report on what was said, but could very easily leak it to the Times or AP, neither of which is bound to secrecy.

That would be poetic justice for a Justice Department that has spied on the Associated Press and Fox News’ James Rosen and even his parents.

And what a scam. Instead of informing the public through the media, Holder is trying to simply win the media over to his side. That’s called indoctrination.

The facts of the case also get curiouser and curiouser: Initially it was reported that Holder’s Justice Department had secretly seized the phone records of some 20 Associated Press lines. Now, AP president and chief executive Gary Pruitt says the Justice Department monitored “thousands and thousands” of calls.

Holder himself may have committed perjury before Congress. Either that, or he lied to a federal judge.

In order to get a subpoena for Rosen’s private information, Holder’s Justice Department painted Rosen as a potential co-conspirator in a federal crime involving classified information on North Korea. In sworn testimony to Congress May 15, Holder denied ever being involved in such a prosecutorial action against a journalist. But since then, we’ve learned he was personally involved in the spying on Rosen.

At the very least, our nation’s top law enforcement officer has grossly misled Congress and the nation. And like a coward, he tries to take the discussion behind closed doors rather than own up to his obligations to the public.

The attorney general is damaged goods, and has no credibility. He’s essentially a placeholder now. He should resign.

At the same time, he should continue to be held accountable – to at least the same level as he was trying to hold the media.

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carcraft
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carcraft 06/03/13 - 05:52 am
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Holder will soon be in the crowed space under the Obama Bus

Holder has been involved in one stupid thing or scandal since Obama's Administration got started. Trying the terrorist in criminal court in New York. Tried one Terrorist for the bombing of the Embassies in Africa (600 people killed and two Embassies destroyed) the guy got convicted on collusion. Fast and Furious and right now Holder is hiding (hopefully not for long) behind Executive Privilege but is under contempt of congress charges http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=holder+under+contempt+of+congress... Now we have the targeting of select reporters and Holder clearly lying to a judge and lying to Congress. Holder is clearly and embarrassment to the legal process of the United States! At this point Obama has four outs, 1) That all this will go away, 2) The Democrats win the house by a large majority, 3) A distraction occurs that removes the focus of press and public, 4) Fire holder. Obama only has control of one of those processes!

ymnbde
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ymnbde 06/03/13 - 06:17 am
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we may get a different actor to play the part

but the scriptwriters won't change...
the drama of the plot will continue on to their final solution...

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Brad Owens 06/03/13 - 07:05 am
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Holder is a "Made man"

He was the one who got Marc Rich's pardon done on the last day of Clinton's second term.

He is a 'Made Man' and he will be protected until he cannot be defended anymore, then he will resign instead of being fired.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/01/AR200812...

Brad

deestafford
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deestafford 06/03/13 - 07:52 am
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Holder is a clone of Obama's bidding

If the truth be known, obama is very proud of what Holder has been doing because he has been doing what obama wanted. His only mistake was getting caught. The two are joined at the hip so much that obama did not have to tell Holder what to do because holder knew what was wanted.

The next thing to come out is the "obama is so displeased and had no idea what was going on." You see, Holder can go because he accomplished his mission of sabotaging the election with the employing the IRS as a shield.

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RMSHEFF 06/03/13 - 08:54 am
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You are correct Dee, they

You are correct Dee, they both are two peas in a pod. They have the same world view that America was founded on the backs of others and prospered by taking advantage of the least among us. They don't see America as a force for good or exceptional. They see their time in office as an opportunity to "get even".

rmwhitley
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rmwhitley 06/03/13 - 08:57 am
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The democratic
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party is rife with criminal activity, as evidenced by this administration. When a political party so corrupt has the unmitigated gall to spy on reporters and threaten them and no liberals stand up and say ENOUGH, America has gone to hell in a hand basket. HEIL hitler.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 09:05 am
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Where are his liberal
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Where are his liberal defenders this morning?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:06 am
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Patriate Act ?

Couldn't these Asso. Press phone records be viewed as a part of up-holding the Patriate Act ?!

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:19 am
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Come on HA, you see that a liberal is here

Not going to ingage me ? If I hurt your feelings last week, it was my opinion talking about your demands for proof.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:25 am
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HA, the last word wins the debate !

You asked for a liberal to speak-up for Holder !! Last word wins !!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 09:42 am
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So do you have something to
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So do you have something to defend him? Can you defend his proven lies to congress? Why would you want to is a better question.

And no, I'm not going to "ingage" you. I will when I find out what that word means, otherwise I will continue to have a life.

My feelings aren't hurt. I just find it humorous that the only people who are annoyed by demands of proof, are the ones who consistently CAN'T provide any.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:38 am
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HA your answers from T3

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"So do you have something to defend him? Can you defend his proven lies to congress? Why would you want to is a better question.

And no, I'm not going to "ingage" you. I will when I find out what that word means, otherwise I will continue to have a life.

My feelings aren't hurt. I just find it humorous that the only people who are annoyed by demands of proof, are the ones who consistently CAN'T proved any."

I try to speak-up for Holder for two reasons: 1.) because I believe the Patriate Act is being followed and, 2.) because it annoys you conserves.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 09:40 am
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"Couldn't these Asso. Press
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"Couldn't these Asso. Press phone records be viewed as a part of up-holding the Patriate [sic] Act ?"

Can you explain why you think that, or are you just spilling out the words Patriot Act, and hoping it flies? Do you know anything about the Patriot Act?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 09:41 am
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You will defend a man who has
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You will defend a man who has been proven to have lied to congress because you think that lying to congress is covered by the Patriot act? Wow.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:47 am
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HA your response

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"Couldn't these Asso. Press phone records be viewed as a part of up-holding the Patriate [sic] Act ?"

Can you explain why you think that, or are you just spilling out the words Patriot Act, and hoping it flies? Do you know anything about the Patriot Act?"

If you get right down to why I can't spell, this is a hick-up of my smartness !

If you get right down to The Patriot Act, it sort of gives our government the rights to breaking so-called private previledges.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 09:53 am
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HA, you have to look at the grey areas !

In our government, things are not always black and / or white ! Perhaps Holder is following the grey areas given to him by The Patriot Act.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 06/03/13 - 10:26 am
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"2.) because it annoys you

"2.) because it annoys you conserves."

In other words, you are being a TROLL.

It is obvious what Eric Holder has been doing. Just like it is obvious what the IRS has been doing, and to some extent the EPA, FBI, and ATF. All of this combined is the epitome of a president and his administration using the power of the federal government to harass the political opposition. Everyone knows it.....even you liberals know it.....but you deny it while snickering under your breath......just like Holder, Obama, Lerner, and Carney.

And then there is the prostitute....Bill Clinton.....who sold himself to Obama for a promise that Obama would endorse Hillary for our next president. It got Obama elected. And now we find out about the deal and the fact that "hooker Bill" hates Obama and every breath he takes.....and the "deal" may be on the rocks because Obama is a conniving liar.

Oh yeh, Patriot act probably is probably a stretch since they were not investigating "terrorism" or gathering intelligence on terrorists.

MTBer
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MTBer 06/03/13 - 10:24 am
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Black Panthers

Let us not forget that Holder's tenure began with an absolute refusal to prosecute members of the New Black Panthers for blatant voter intimdation at a polling place in Philadelphia. They stood near the front entrance door wearing black military-style clothing, boots and wielding clubs. It was stated that the refusal had nothing to do with race, and it was all blown out of proportion.

Turn the table, put a few white men in white robes out there, and I tend to believe the outcome would have been a tad different.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 06/03/13 - 10:27 am
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under the patriot act, it

under the patriot act, it doesnt give the govt free hand to abuse individual rigthts. there has to be a sign off by a judge...and it doesnt include a fishing expediation to find one who will eventually sign an order for surveillance. thought the libs hated this law now all they do is defend it...lets face Holder is lying to congress, fingerprints on almost every scandal..yet Obumler defends him, says a lot about his character..or shall we say lack of it..

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 10:59 am
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Patriot Act info from Wikipedia

"On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011,[2] a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act:[3] roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves" — individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[4]"

I believe the "extentions" that President Obama signed into law in 2011 MAKES THE ASSO. PRESS RECORDS ( A NON-ISSUE ) !!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 11:13 am
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What part of the Patriot act
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What part of the Patriot act do you think Holder was following when he lied to Congress? What part was he following when he lied to a judge about why he needed Rosin's emails?

carcraft
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carcraft 06/03/13 - 11:13 am
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T3bledsoe, you maybe correct

T3bledsoe, you maybe correct about the Patriot act. The problem for your supposition is that Holder hasn't claimed the Patriot act as the bases for his actions nor does the Patriot Act allow Holder to lie to Congress or a Judge!

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kissofdeath 06/03/13 - 11:14 am
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Tea Party right - wing agenda must stop.

Republicans in Congress are wasting too much time on Obama administration scandals instead of focusing their efforts on economic issues that matter to the American people.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 11:44 am
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kissofdeath. Just what are
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kissofdeath. Just what are the Democrats doing about economic issues? Maybe they can pass a budget.

I'm sorry, but when we can't even get the truth under oath from the attorney general, THAT is an issue that matters to the American People. It is NOT a "waste of time" to get to the bottom of the criminal activities of those elected to run the country.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 11:38 am
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"Tea Party right - wing
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"Tea Party right - wing agenda must stop."

In other words...stop proving that the Obama administration is one of the most corrupt administrations in history. There's no "there there."

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 11:46 am
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Kissofdeath you say it all

"Republicans in Congress are wasting too much time on Obama administration scandals instead of focusing their efforts on economic issues that matter to the American people."

Just like the Republicans did during Watergate, spent way too much time trying to keep The White House and not do the peoples' work. NOW, they are not doing the peoples' work while trying to take The White House !!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 11:49 am
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So we should just let Holder
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So we should just let Holder continue to violate the law? That makes sense. Again I ask. Just what part of the people's work have the Democrats been doing? How many budgets have they passed lately?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 06/03/13 - 11:54 am
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Mr Bledsoe. You care to
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Mr Bledsoe. You care to explain how the Patriot act allows the AG to lie to Congress?

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 12:04 pm
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Patriot Act and AG go hand-in-hand

"Mr Bledsoe. You care to explain how the Patriot act allows the AG to lie to Congress?"

There must be something in The Patriot Act that is allowing The AG to say what he is saying, or The Republican "DOMINATED" House of Reps. would be making more of a deal than they are.

t3bledsoe
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t3bledsoe 06/03/13 - 12:28 pm
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"All the world is a stage....."

How do conserves. or libs. know; for sure; that a lot of what goes on in Washington, DC is not being done for the security of our nation ?!! I mean, individuals don't know the whole picture and those individuals INCLUDE THE TERRORISTS !! I mean, what works in sports, ( trickery ), may very well work toward The U.S. security !! THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.

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