It's far from over

Radical Muslims' global war exploits Western tolerance

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President Obama’s national security speech two weeks ago likely will be remembered, if it’s remembered at all, for its being repeatedly heckled.

What it should be remembered for is being a transparent, but tone-deaf, attempt to change the subject from the scandals swirling around him.

Tone-deaf? He basically came out against the drone strikes he’s been presiding over, and in favor of closing Guantanamo, which he hasn’t done.

And most outrageously, on the heels of the Boston bombing – not to mention attacks on other Westerners in London and Paris – our president claimed that “America’s legitimate claim of self-defense cannot be the end of the discussion.”

Really? Let’s hear the rest of the discussion, Mr. President.

He almost seemed to be declaring the war on terror over.

“All but declaring V-T (Victory Over Terror) Day,” is how a Yahoo News headline put it.

He decried “keeping America on a perpetual war-time footing” – but he ignores the fact that we just keep on getting attacked. Wars end, as you say, Mr. President. But it takes both sides to end it.

Fuzzy and intangible, his speech failed to change the subject for long – and only has stepped the White House back from any clarity on the war on terror, which we all know his heart has rarely been in except for one fateful night which we’re constantly reminded of. With attacks continuing on his watch – and the Fort Hood shooter still not facing justice while pulling down a cool quarter-million in salary – it seems an odd time to be insinuating “Mission Accomplished.”

“Stunningly, breathtakingly naïve” is how former House Speaker Newt Gingrich characterized the president’s speech in a television debate. “Right after you have somebody beheaded in England, you have a bomb go off in Boston … and the president announces cheerfully that ‘the war is going to end because I’m not happy being a war president.’”

As this president calls a rhetorical retreat, the British – not exactly your shoot-from-the-hip gang – are headed the opposite direction: setting up a terrorism task force to go after radical preachers and other flashpoints of Islamic fanaticism.

Truth be told, Britain and much of the rest of Western Europe have an even taller task – that of reforming their immigration laws. The London killers – who basically beheaded a British soldier in the streets in broad daylight, one of them defending it to a camera while waving his blood-red hands – were apparently homegrown. But it’s no secret that much of Western Europe is besieged by large, unhappy and often restive Muslim immigrants who have failed utterly to assimilate to their new homes and cultures.

Swedish Immigration Minister Tobias Billstrom stood out recently by calling his country’s intake of immigrants “not sustainable.”

“Riots put Sweden’s open-door immigration policy in spotlight,” read a recent Reuters headline, after days of car- and building-torching riots touched off by a
police shooting of a machete-
wielding man.

“This has shaken Sweden,” one Swedish journalist said.

Perhaps Sweden, and the whole of Western Europe, needed shaking. Its immigration policies are a disaster. They’ve allowed in huge immigrant populations that have assimilated poorly or not at all, creating ghettoes and powder kegs across the continent.

This is not a matter of being “intolerant” toward the immigrants; fact is, policies have been far too tolerant.

Immigrant populations necessarily take their own cultures with them – and that can be a beautiful, edifying thing. Different music, food and other wisps of unique cultures breathe new life into an immigrant’s new nation.

But assimilation is not only not a bad thing, it’s a necessary thing.

And the onus is on the immigrant  to fit in, not on the host nation to  recast itself in the immigrant’s  image.

This is especially true when some immigrants are as malodorously overbearing and violent as they have shown themselves to be.

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carcraft 06/02/13 - 04:59 am
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Very reminiscent of another editorial

Krauthammer in yesterdays Chronicle presented an editorial and call Obama's speech "The Dorothy Doctrine". Click your heels three times and declare what you want. Don't forget we were attacked by Al Quad Groups on Sept 11,2012 in Libya. This "War is not ending and the west needs to be in it for the long hall or bend to radical islam and there is no accommodation to those folks. Despite Obama's declaration it is over it isn't over till it's over. The Jihadist haven't yet "stacked arms"

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seenitB4 06/02/13 - 07:49 am
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You are dreaming my friend

But assimilation is not only not a bad thing, it’s a necessary thing.

Don't think that is what they are looking for......more like assassinate.

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TrukinRanger 06/02/13 - 09:12 am
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Another slow news day for the
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Another slow news day for the Chronicle? Guantanamo's closing was blocked by the republicans. As for the president being heckled or scandals surrounding him??? These also were republican ploys. Scandals they invented so that papers like the Chronicle can continue to try and sway those who do not think for themselves. Benghazi has been in the headlines for way too long, not because it was tragedy because it was, but there are people trying to make it into something that it wasn't. If you want a scandal- focus on the previous administration. We had 4 people die in Benghazi- thousands on 9/11 and the two wars.

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soapy_725 06/02/13 - 09:32 am
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Being the Great Melting Pot....
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made America the envy of the civilized world. Being a "Cob Salad" has brought us to our collective knees. The prone position for public beheading. We are just a short distance behind Europe.

Before LBJ, immigration percentages were limited by the existing emigrant percent already in the USA population. i.e. Ten percent of the population is Ukrainian. Only ten percent of all emigrants in a given year could be Ukrainian.

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ymnbde 06/02/13 - 09:32 am
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even their own Martin Luther couldn't help

if, out of the billions of supposedly peace loving Muslims, they had one
because there is some fundamental flaw in their religion
and an incompatibility with freedom

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Brad Owens 06/02/13 - 09:55 am
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Good article...

The Swedish people deserve all they are getting and worse.

Sweden openly supported many of the African thug dictators, like Mugabe, during their communist supported wars of "liberation" from colonial powers.

They also, in the name of tolerance, invited all these people from third world countries and non-European nations into their homeland. I guess because they bring such a rich addition to their culture huh?

Well, I for one am not concerned and hope that the oppressed minorities liberate themselves from the oppressive Swedish culture that allows police to shoot machete wielding people dead with no consideration of their ethnic background or their religious beliefs.

Oh, and google "UK muslim rape gangs" and read all about how muslim immigrants there look at the young children of non-muslims. Google "muslim grooming gangs" too. In America the backlash would be terrible against anything like that, muslim immigrants here know better than to try anything like that.

Now bring on the "Blame America" crowd to equivocate and blather on about drone raids and our foreign policy.

Brad

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Riverman1 06/02/13 - 11:46 am
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Reformation Needed

The Muslim religion needs a reformation to disavow extremism. Most civilized religions have undergone such transformations to moderation.

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deestafford 06/02/13 - 01:44 pm
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Some key points:

With an EU passport anyone can go to any country that is a member of the EU and automatically qualifies for any welfare assistance that a native born would have. If a person holds a EU passport they cannot be excluded from entry into an EU country.

The Muslims do not want to assimilate. They never have in the history of their existence. Islam is not just a religion. It is a way of life and it is incompatible with Western Civilization and as such strives to take over the West. That is the history of the religion...continually conquering and consuming countries where ever possible.

I'm tired of hearing, "Well, it's only a small percentage of Muslims who are radical." There are 1 billion Muslims in the world: 10% =100 million; 5%=50 million; and 1%= 10 million radicals. None of these make a "small" number of people trying to destroy us.

We have a president who has had no leadership experience; is slow to make a decision; sympathizes with the muslims; is ignorant in foreign affairs; and who likes being president but does want to do the duties of a president. Because of his broken family background he, like Clinton before him, wants to be liked more than anything. He has tried to make the rest of the world like us by bending toward their desires and as a result caused us to loose respect in all points of the globe. There is no country that respects or fears the US. Look at how Russia thumbs it nose at the US. The country is suffering as a result of an individual with psychological problems being elected president.

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afadel 06/02/13 - 05:29 pm
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Using Individuals’ Crimes to Justify Endless War & Xenophobia

The daily paper of Augusta, Georgia, USA, the Augusta Chronicle, today published a terrible editorial which advocates endless war abroad and xenophobia at home.

http://aymplaying.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/using-individuals-crimes-to-j...

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KSL 06/02/13 - 05:46 pm
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Dee

A fantastic synopsis of our current situation and the reasons behind it.

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rmwhitley 06/02/13 - 06:03 pm
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The only thing
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many immigrants ( legal and illegal ) bring to America is their mooching and criminal ways.

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dahreese 06/02/13 - 07:01 pm
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"The Muslims do not want to
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"The Muslims do not want to assimilate. They never have in the history of their existence. Islam is not just a religion. It is a way of life and it is incompatible with Western Civilization and as such strives to take over the West. That is the history of the religion...continually conquering and consuming countries where ever possible."

In times past, in this country, the same things and kind of things have been said about Catholics, the Jewish, the Polish, the Swedish,Italians, African Americans, the Mormon faith....

Same kind of bigotry in this editorial and most of these replies.

I suppose only WASPs are pure?

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KSL 06/02/13 - 07:07 pm
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As to the first link, how do we know that is not happening in Detroit now.

As to the second link, we know parts of tbat are happening now.

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KSL 06/02/13 - 07:12 pm
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dahreese, do a little more research

We already know tbey are demanding sharia law and prayer condtions in school. Do you call that a willingness to assimilate? Heck, tbey are no longer required to learn the language.

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KSL 06/02/13 - 07:17 pm
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And does this mean anything to you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)

KSL
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KSL 06/02/13 - 07:35 pm
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Actually,

For the most part, all of the groups you have mentioned have assimilated in society as a whole without giving up personal customs. And many of Muslim background have as well. But those 10% located around the world, including here, sure can be cruel, and criminal, and trroristic. Care to defend them and their actions?

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afadel 06/02/13 - 07:41 pm
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Using Individuals’ Crimes to Justify Endless War & Xenophobia

The first part of the editorial criticizes President Obama’s ambiguous, hear what you want to hear, national security speech of May 23, 2013 for not explicitly pledging endless war, which unfortunately continues apace despite Obama’s hints at peace, and for discussing the detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The editorial cites the Ft Hood shootings, the Boston Marathon bombing and the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby as evidence that the war on terror must continue. The editorial does not address how the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan and assassination of unknown persons by missiles launched from drones would prevent “self-radicalizing” individuals from committing these kinds of crimes. So does the editorial simply advocate war for the purpose of bravado and machismo? Are we going to continue to commit war crimes by killing non-combatants abroad, subject our military personnel and their families to lengthy deployments and inadequate treatment for their wounds and destroy our domestic economy just to demonstrate our resolve? This is cutting off our nose to spite our face.

The second part of the editorial gets to what I believe is the true purpose of the editorial: attacking immigrants and immigration reform.

But it’s no secret that much of Western Europe is besieged by large, unhappy and often restive Muslim immigrants who have failed utterly to assimilate to their new homes and cultures. … This is not a matter of being “intolerant” toward the immigrants; fact is, policies have been far too tolerant. But assimilation is not only not a bad thing, it’s a necessary thing. And the onus is on the immigrant to fit in, not on the host nation to recast itself in the immigrant’s image. This is especially true when some immigrants are as malodorously overbearing and violent as they have shown themselves to be.

The most obvious thing is that the alleged problem of non-assimilation has nothing to do with the three crimes the editorial previously asserted as justification for endless war. The Ft Hood shooter was not a recent immigrant, and the Boston Marathon bombers, at least initially, were well-assimilated (sports, girls, parties and marijuana) culturally and had little contact with United States Muslims. The murderers of Lee Rigby were British-born.

The editorial cites no evidence that Muslim immigrants to Europe are a problem. Nor does it define what “assimilation” actually is. The language the editorial uses hint that its idea of the ideal immigrant is uncritical acceptance of white supremacy and American exceptionalism.

The nation will not “recast itself in the immigrant’s image.” So be happy when people whites dominate popular entertainment images, or when white victims of crimes are given more importance than non-white, or when jails are filled with brown and black people for crimes which white people commit with the same or higher frequency. Be happy when the corporate oligarchy aims the US military towards countries where you still have relatives who suffer from the resulting violence.

Of course, the biggest crime immigrants commit is being “malodorously overbearing and violent.” While I oppose any violence an immigrant may commit, I’m having trouble understanding why US citizen violence is somehow less wrong than US immigrant violence. Also, I’m trying to figure out how I can avoid being “overbearing.” Do I need to walk with a shuffle and say “yessa, massa” every time some pseudo-patriot white person tells me how great the USA is?

Links available at: http://aymplaying.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/using-individuals-crimes-to-j...

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dahreese 06/02/13 - 08:06 pm
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"We already know tbey are
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"We already know tbey are demanding sharia law and prayer condtions in school."

Do we now?

Just as "we know" that all Muslims are not members of al Qaeda and that the Muslim faith has a number of different sects that do not get along?

Just as "we know" that Christianity is divided into - Catholic, Mormon, Baptist, Southern Baptist (how many versions of Baptist are there?) Methodist, Presbyterian (several versions of that) Seventh Day Adventist, Holiness (how many versions of that?) Apostolic and on and on it goes...?

That despite all scientific evidence to the contrary, there are still those Christian fundamentalist who insist that the world was made in seven days and the creation is only a few thousand years old?

I think "we" have a lot to learn about Islam.

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carcraft 06/02/13 - 09:34 pm
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dahreese, About the Mormons,

dahreese, About the Mormons, they were started here and tried to set up their own country. It was clear the Mormons did not want to be a part of America until the US Government reacted to the Mountain Meadows Massacre and forced the Mormons into submitting to the US Government . It was a war of sorts with the US government occupying Utah! After the Occupation of Utah the Elders of the Mormon Church abandoned polygamy and assimilated, except for a few renegades still being involved in polygamy.

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carcraft 06/02/13 - 09:16 pm
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dahreese, Last I checked very

dahreese, Last I checked very few Christians are strapping on bombs and blowing themselves and others up. Right now it seems pretty much to be a Muslim practice!

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KSL 06/02/13 - 10:23 pm
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dah

I never said all were demanding sharia, but many in areas of the US are getting it.

Is that all right with you?

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InChristLove 06/03/13 - 07:24 am
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"That despite all scientific

"That despite all scientific evidence to the contrary, there are still those Christian fundamentalist who insist that the world was made in seven days and the creation is only a few thousand years old?"

There is no scientific evidence proving the world was NOT made in seven days. What is hard for you to believe is that there is an Almighty God that CAN and did make the world in seven days. Question is, what constitutes seven days in God's Word.....what we think of a day, 24 hours, or is it relative to God's timing?

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InChristLove 06/03/13 - 07:29 am
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dahreese "Just as "we know"

dahreese "Just as "we know" that Christianity is divided into - Catholic, Mormon, Baptist, Southern Baptist (how many versions of Baptist are there?) Methodist, Presbyterian (several versions of that) Seventh Day Adventist, Holiness (how many versions of that?) Apostolic and on and on it goes...?"

First off Christianity is not divided. You may have different denominations, sort of like having different families with different names, but the core beliefs about God are the same. Except for Mormans and Jehovah Witnesses, which are not a part of Christianity because they do not believe that Jesus was God incarnate and died on the cross, all of the other differences mainly are in forms of worship and minor differences in secondary beliefs. AND mostly importantly, none of these you mention believe in killing individuals because they do not believe in God Jehovah.

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dahreese 06/03/13 - 09:41 am
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"Question is, what
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"Question is, what constitutes seven days in God's Word.....what we think of a day, 24 hours, or is it relative to God's timing?"

Seems to me that would be a good question for you (and your "teacher") to ask those who believe "7 days!" Let me know what you learn.
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"First off Christianity is not divided. You may have different denominations, sort of like having different families with different names, but the core beliefs about God are the same."

However, you know enough about Islam to deny there are "denominations" within it?
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"dahreese, Last I checked very few Christians are strapping on bombs and blowing themselves and others up. Right now it seems pretty much to be a Muslim practice!"

It would be interesting to know the "last time" you "checked."

In place of strapping on bombs, the U.S. uses drones. Kills just as many, sometimes more. That's the "Christian practice.
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"I never said all were demanding sharia, but many in areas of the US are getting it. Is that all right with you?"

Where in the U.S. might this be, exactly?
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"Except for Mormans and Jehovah Witnesses, which are not a part of Christianity because they do not believe that Jesus was God incarnate and died on the cross, all of the other differences mainly are in forms of worship and minor differences in secondary beliefs. AND mostly importantly, none of these you mention believe in killing individuals because they do not believe in God Jehovah."
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"they do not believe that Jesus was God incarnate and died on the cross...."

Oh, my, oh my, oh my. You understand as much about Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses as you do about Christianity.

Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament:‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’(Deut. 6:4).... The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and a lot of arguements and disagreements by the "Church Fathers."

It wasn't until the end of the 4th century the doctrine of the Trinity took the form it's had ever since. And wouldn't have had that except for Constantine who "dared" anyone to question it.

"AND mostly importantly, none of these you mention believe in killing individuals because they do not believe in God Jehovah."

Seems, but feel free to correct me, I was taught something about the "Crusades" when I was in high school.
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I am running out of time so I have quickly referrenced one of the Mormon internet sites for your further edification.

"The cross is used in many Christian churches as a symbol of the Savior's death and Resurrection and as a sincere expression of faith. As members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we also remember with reverence the suffering of the Savior. But because the Savior lives, we do not use the symbol of His death as the symbol of our faith.

Our lives must be the expression of our faith. When we are baptized and confirmed, we covenant to take upon ourselves the name of Jesus Christ. The way we live our lives should demonstrate our love for the Savior and His work.

"The only members of the Church who wear the symbol of the cross are Latter-day Saint chaplains, who wear it on their military uniforms to show that they are Christian chaplains."
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Sorry, I don't have time to discuss Jehovah's Witnesses.

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InChristLove 06/03/13 - 10:55 am
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dahreese, you appear to have

dahreese, you appear to have even lesser knowledge on Christianity than you claim I have on Mormon or Jehovah Witness. It does not good to come back with biblical proof to disclaim most of your comments, so why bother.

"Seems to me that would be a good question for you (and your "teacher") to ask those who believe "7 days!" Let me know what you learn."

Who is this teacher you speak of? My teacher is Christ and His Holy Word. I'll be glad to ask Him when I am called home but by then it won't matter to you or I.

I also have other matters to attend to but dearly wish I had time to dive more in depth since it's evident you do not know as much about Mormon or JW as you think you do......internet sites are helpful but won't give you all the details about either of these religions.

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dahreese 06/03/13 - 06:09 pm
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"It does not good to come
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"It does not good to come back with biblical proof to disclaim most of your comments, so why bother."

"Biblical proof"; containing the history and fables of the Jewish faith; the personal letters of a man named Paul (some of which were attributed to him but are now discredited by biblical scholars as not written by him; who's letters are not all contained in this "biblical proof" and a man who never met Jesus in person; a book of "Revelation" not written by the same John of the gospel of John; two other "gospels" both patterned on "Mark"; the letters written before the gospels; the first gospel written some 80/90 years after the death of Jesus; all scattered about the middle east and gathered together by Constantine, inspite of the missing letters of Paul, and declared "the word of god" in the year "312."

That's quite some "biblical proof" you have there.

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carcraft 06/03/13 - 09:02 pm
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It cracks me up that Dahreese

It cracks me up that Dahreese is more concerned with Christian apologetics than he is with Obama calling the war o terror over while multitudes of radical Muslim groups seek ways to kill us . Got fey your priorities streight right?

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KSL 06/04/13 - 12:53 am
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Last I knew, it was Obama

Last I knew, it was Obama Obamaokaying drone strikes.

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