Shouldn't we stand with them?

Group of black activists speak with uncommon clarity on abortion

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How many targeted killings of children would it take before it’d become national news? Before there would be protests and condemnations? Before there would be demands for official action?

Not too many, as you can imagine.

And yet, abortion is a plague in black America that hardly anyone will talk about.

The aftermath of abortionist Kermit Gosnell’s grisly infanticide case is an apt time to bring it up.

We stand with the group of black pastors and columnist Star Parker who recently spoke out at a national press conference against the abortion industry’s unusual presence in minority communities and its often unregulated practices.

Pastor Stephen Broden, founder of Fair Park Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas, said the government is slow to regulate the abortion industry “because they operate primarily in the black community and among poor people. As many as 75 percent of these clinics are located in our community.”

A Chicago Sun-Times story reported that while blacks comprise “13 percent of the U.S. population, they accounted for 36.5 percent of abortions.”

The Rev. Ceasar LeFlore of Chicago decried a “government that continues to turn a blind eye and exhibits a mind-boggling indifference to the brutal, unrestrained and unregulated barbaric practices” of the abortion industry.

Government officials in the past have called for abortion to be safe, rare and legal. The only one of those three goals that has been achieved, LeFlore said, is “legal.”

The group maintains that there are other Gosnells out there, and that women are dying as a result. They noted the case of one in Chicago named Tonya Reaves, an engaged woman who died after an abortion last July.

Gosnell, a Philadelphia abortionist, was recently convicted of three counts of first-degree murder for killing babies born alive in botched abortions. A patient also was among those who died. His clinic had gone uninspected for years. It’s likely such neglect of abortion clinics isn’t rare. Liberals have made such clinics sacrosanct.

LeFlore said Illinois law doesn’t require inspections by the state department of public health.

“This lack of oversight is unconscionable,” LeFlore argued.

Broden lamented that some have “convinced our women that the only answer to unintended pregnancies is to murder their babies and to depopulate our community.”

“Shut down these houses of horror now,” he demanded.

At the very least, federal and state officials should put the highest priority on cracking down on unsafe abortion clinics. Is anyone even keeping track of the numbers of women who die in them?

But whereas the Sandy Hook slaughter grabbed national headlines and sustained debate, the Gosnell case was painfully slow to grab attention and quickly disappeared from the news.

Where is the enduring outrage over what happened in Philadelphia? Where is the national will to protect women from unsafe abortions? Democrats concocted a phony-baloney “war on women” in last year’s election campaign because free contraceptives weren’t available enough. Well, here’s a case in which women are actually dying. Where’s the chatter about that?

We stand with the black pastors who joined Star Parker to call on the nation to pay attention to this outrage and to protect women and children.

They may be being ignored in the media. But they couldn’t be more right.

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InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 07:08 pm
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Let us remind dahreese

Let us remind dahreese exactly what he/she posted:

''The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it."

So you are saying that it is a lie or fallacy that someone can work hard, have determination, and succeed and make a better life for oneself. Well if we all thought like you, we might all just give up.

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dahreese 05/27/13 - 07:36 pm
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@RMSHEFF
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"I have become all that I desire to become from a financial standpoint."

Thankfully, you have.

And just as you look at those who have not succeeded as well as you, those who have succeeded better wonder why you haven't done better.

"Thankfully I had a dad that encouraged me."

Thankfully, you did.

"Your preconceived notions are if you are born in the ghetto, in poverty, with physical handicap, one parent or orphan etc. then you can't rise to the top. "

I didn't say that at all.

Nor did I say, as accused by "InChristLove", above, that it was "simple."

What I said was; We don't all make the beds we are born into. We don't chose our parents - educated or uneducated; ambitious or not ambitious; mentally healthy or mentally unhealthy; physically able or physically unable; culturally literate or culturally illiterate; with opportunities afforded to improve their lot or not improve their lot and ours along with it.

The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a fallacy. It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it.

Somewhere between the ages of eighteen (or sooner) and twenty-four months the cultural norms of a child are pretty well fixed in place and except for a rare occasion, those norms will follow that child for the rest of his or her life.

I came from poverty and I can clearly state that it takes some inborn ability (which is born to us in varying amounts and kinds) knowing the right people and being in the right place at the right times to succeed and the idea of anyone being "self-made" is a LIE.

Frost makes it very clear in his poem;

"Be sure to keep repeating to yourself
You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination."

You had the support of your father.

And not that it's an excuse for failure if one doesn't have a father's support, but YOU had it!

Somewhere between the ages of eighteen (or sooner) and twenty-four months the cultural norms of a child are pretty well fixed in place and except for a rare occasion, those norms will follow that child for the rest of his or her life.

You aren't a self-made man and you have no right to look down at those with less and those who've not had the support and opportunities you've had.

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 07:42 pm
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Good point ICL. Life is hard

Good point ICL. Life is hard and is not fair and some will use this a an excuse. Many struggle their whole life and don't seem to prosper but the last thing people need is a reason or to give up. This leads to dependency on others and robs a person of self worth. We must learn to do our best and be content with what we have. Christ will meet us at this point and give us rest, peace and contentment in all circumstances that life confronts us with.

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 07:54 pm
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The quotes above says "'The

The quotes above says "'The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself " Maybe you meant to type "not just anyone"

You would be correct in the latter. Some will always fail. They just like myself must learn to live with our failures and shortcomings and be content with our station in life.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 07:59 pm
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As for context....say what

As for context....say what you mean then.

"The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up " This statement means that the idea of anyone being able to do this is a lie or a farce.

"Not just "ANYONE" can pull himself or herself up by" This statement means not just anyone but someone can.

They have two different meanings.......the words are yours and it is what you said.....they contradict. Maybe someone beside the bible thumper should be concerned about reading context.

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dahreese 05/28/13 - 09:51 pm
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>AGAIN my words are taken out
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>AGAIN my words are taken out of context !!!

"The quotes above says "'The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself " Maybe you meant to type "not just anyone"

No. I meant just what I said;

'The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea...is a fallacy...is a lie."

That said, some sweet soul, and I'll leave it to you to figure out just who, has had one of my post taken down, so I'll leave this thread at this point.

I have never, in all of my other places to comment, seen such conservatives just waiting to pounce on something and take it out of context - thinking they are saving the country! (Or the bible).

Or slurrping all over the AC's right wing editorials.

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Humble Angela 05/29/13 - 02:46 pm
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''The idea that anyone can
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''The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. [sic]It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it."

Actually, the only one's who say it is a lie are the ones who are jealous of the many, many people who have done it. It makes them feel better about themselves, since they lacked the motivation to do just the same. That is my opinion.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/29/13 - 09:53 pm
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dahreese posted "That said,

dahreese posted "That said, some sweet soul, and I'll leave it to you to figure out just who, has had one of my post taken down, so I'll leave this thread at this point."

If you are going to accuse someone dahreese, just spit it out. Don't believe anyone has had one of your post taken down. Sean may have had it removed because it violated a rule, but don't flatter yourself thinking you've been picked on. If it wasn't in violation Sean would have left it as it.

Now you have my interest peeked as to which post and what did it say?

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/29/13 - 09:58 pm
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Let's make sure we have what

Let's make sure we have what you said ""Not just "ANYONE" can pull himself or herself up " which now you think that it's possible. Not just anyone can but it's possible someone can.

Nothing has been taken out of context. Like you said, you mean what you say and both these statements contradict each other. One said it's a lie, it can't be done. The next sentence says not just anyone can, but it's possible for someone to.

How has what you said been taken out of context?

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