Shouldn't we stand with them?

Group of black activists speak with uncommon clarity on abortion

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How many targeted killings of children would it take before it’d become national news? Before there would be protests and condemnations? Before there would be demands for official action?

Not too many, as you can imagine.

And yet, abortion is a plague in black America that hardly anyone will talk about.

The aftermath of abortionist Kermit Gosnell’s grisly infanticide case is an apt time to bring it up.

We stand with the group of black pastors and columnist Star Parker who recently spoke out at a national press conference against the abortion industry’s unusual presence in minority communities and its often unregulated practices.

Pastor Stephen Broden, founder of Fair Park Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas, said the government is slow to regulate the abortion industry “because they operate primarily in the black community and among poor people. As many as 75 percent of these clinics are located in our community.”

A Chicago Sun-Times story reported that while blacks comprise “13 percent of the U.S. population, they accounted for 36.5 percent of abortions.”

The Rev. Ceasar LeFlore of Chicago decried a “government that continues to turn a blind eye and exhibits a mind-boggling indifference to the brutal, unrestrained and unregulated barbaric practices” of the abortion industry.

Government officials in the past have called for abortion to be safe, rare and legal. The only one of those three goals that has been achieved, LeFlore said, is “legal.”

The group maintains that there are other Gosnells out there, and that women are dying as a result. They noted the case of one in Chicago named Tonya Reaves, an engaged woman who died after an abortion last July.

Gosnell, a Philadelphia abortionist, was recently convicted of three counts of first-degree murder for killing babies born alive in botched abortions. A patient also was among those who died. His clinic had gone uninspected for years. It’s likely such neglect of abortion clinics isn’t rare. Liberals have made such clinics sacrosanct.

LeFlore said Illinois law doesn’t require inspections by the state department of public health.

“This lack of oversight is unconscionable,” LeFlore argued.

Broden lamented that some have “convinced our women that the only answer to unintended pregnancies is to murder their babies and to depopulate our community.”

“Shut down these houses of horror now,” he demanded.

At the very least, federal and state officials should put the highest priority on cracking down on unsafe abortion clinics. Is anyone even keeping track of the numbers of women who die in them?

But whereas the Sandy Hook slaughter grabbed national headlines and sustained debate, the Gosnell case was painfully slow to grab attention and quickly disappeared from the news.

Where is the enduring outrage over what happened in Philadelphia? Where is the national will to protect women from unsafe abortions? Democrats concocted a phony-baloney “war on women” in last year’s election campaign because free contraceptives weren’t available enough. Well, here’s a case in which women are actually dying. Where’s the chatter about that?

We stand with the black pastors who joined Star Parker to call on the nation to pay attention to this outrage and to protect women and children.

They may be being ignored in the media. But they couldn’t be more right.

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faithson
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faithson 05/27/13 - 09:27 am
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biz, chas, rm

pray tell who designed and funded all those 'tenament' houses in the inner city where people were warehoused in 30 story 'prisons'... or put into 'housing' like animals, remember well my bus ride out of Chicago and the endless buildings warehousing people of little means. Sorry guys, but me thinks republicans and repbulican philosophy had as much to do with that debacle as did the democrats...

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Ms.Anthrope 05/27/13 - 09:35 am
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yes... the party of "no"
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The party of "no" has blocked jobs bills and infrastructure bills that Obama would enact and which would be improving our economy right now. This is how the GOP works against the American People to further their game of political domination. Remember, Mitch McConnell? Before Obama even took office, Mitch was stating how he was more interested in making Obama a one-term president than in helping the American People recover from the "great recession of 2008".
so yeah........ I believe......in GOP we trust........

ymnbde
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ymnbde 05/27/13 - 09:41 am
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Housing and Community Development Act of 1977

by Jimmy Carter, and other "fair minded," but fully incompetent liberals
caused the great recession of 2008
not George Bush, as our great O is so fond of claiming
coercing banks to loan money to those who can't pay it back
because they are victims of the great liberal education swindle
and just like there is no polite way to kill a baby, keeping poor black people uneducated can only succeed for a few generations

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 09:39 am
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In 2005, the median wealth of

In 2005, the median wealth of African-American households was $12,124. By 2009, it had plummeted to $5,677 — a 53 percent drop When Barack Obama first entered the White House, 60.6 percent of all working age Americans had a job.  Today, only 58.6 percent of all working age Americans have a job.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the middle class is taking home a smaller share of the overall income pie than has ever been recorded before.
. Median household income in America has fallen for four consecutive years.  Overall, it has declined by over $4000 during that time span.According to a report from the National Employment Law Project, 58 percent of the jobs that have been created since the end of the recession have been low paying jobs
Families that have a head of household under the age of 30 now have a poverty rate of 37 percent.
When Barack Obama was first elected, the U.S. debt to GDP ratio was under 70 percent.  Today, it is up to 103 percent.

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GiantsAllDay 05/27/13 - 09:51 am
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In this case, ACES is

In this case, ACES is focusing on late term abortions performed by unscrupulous and perhaps poorly skilled physicians (who in my opinion are not deserving of that title). The results are often heartbreaking and disastrous.
ICL, your advice in both your posts today is spot on. I wish more people would listen to it

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chascushman 05/27/13 - 09:59 am
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“but me thinks republicans
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“but me thinks republicans and repbulican philosophy had as much to do with that debacle as did the democrats...”
faithson, you are correct there are a lot of liberal repubs that are also at fault. LBJ who started the ‘Great Society” had the most corrupt administration in my life time until the current one.

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Bizkit 05/27/13 - 10:01 am
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Public housing started with

Public housing started with FDR, then progressive like Truman and Dem have dominated the laws proposed-they have more fingerprints over time. The 2008 crash started with deregulation under Carter, Reagan, and Clinton, then the Fed screwing up, and all the subprime loans with housing market and how Wall Street propagated this failure which all the experts say could have been prevented. Bush actually warned Congress to do something in his support-and I'm not a Bush fan at all. What is sad is Wall street is still making like a Bandit and no one is being prosecuted or imprisoned. The rich keep getting richer under Obama who is propagating this now.

chascushman
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chascushman 05/27/13 - 10:23 am
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“The party of "no" has
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“The party of "no" has blocked jobs bills and infrastructure bills that Obama would enact and which would be improving our economy right now.”
Ms. Anthrope, thank God someone is saying NO to idiot in the WH. Many of the GOP did learn a lesson with ‘stimulus’ which was supposed to create jobs and repair ‘infrastructure’ but it turned out to be a democrat slush fund that the commie in the WH used to reward his friends.

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 10:38 am
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Obama has gotten almost

Obama has gotten almost everything he wanted from Obamacare to a 1 trillion stimulus spending that went largely to Unions and then back to the democrats. He owns this disastrous economy but he has managed to be seen by the low information voter as someone on the outside looking in and not the cause.

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dahreese 05/27/13 - 10:46 am
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"Who to blame-ghost busters.
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"Who to blame-ghost busters. I think not. We make our bed now lay in it."

We don't all make the beds we are born in to. We don't chose our parents - educated or uneducated; ambitious or not ambitious; mentally healthy or mentally unhealthy; physically able or physically unable; culturally literate or culturally illiterate; with opportunities afforded to improve their lot or not improve their lot and ours along with it.

The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it.

Somewhere between the ages of eighteen (or sooner) and twenty-four months the cultural norms of a child are pretty well fixed in place and except for a rare occasion, those norms will follow that child for the rest of his or her life.

I came from poverty and I can clearly state that it takes some inborn ability (which is born to us in varying amounts and kinds) knowing the right people and being in the right place at the right times to succeed and the idea of anyone being "self-made" is a LIE.

"The Fear of God~

If you should rise from Nowhere up to Somewhere,
From being No one up to being Someone,
Be sure to keep repeating to yourself
You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination.
Stay unassuming. If for lack of license
To wear the uniform of who you are,
You should be tempted to make up for it
In a subordinationg look or tone,
Beware of coming too much to the surface
And using for apparel hat was meant
To be the curtain of the inmost soul.

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Darby 05/27/13 - 10:50 am
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"Todays topic: A red herring"

Thanks for rant and the cherry picked quotes.

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GiantsAllDay 05/27/13 - 11:01 am
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"The idea that anyone can

"The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it."

What the hell?

Take a look at this:

http://gma.yahoo.com/georgia-teenager-overcomes-homelessness-become-vale...

dahreese
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dahreese 05/27/13 - 11:22 am
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@GiantsAllDay 05/27/13 -
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@GiantsAllDay 05/27/13 - 12:01 pm

Your reply is merely cherry picking what I said.

Read and think about my whole statement before you jump.

I came from poverty and I can clearly state that it takes some inborn ability (which is born to us in varying amounts and kinds) knowing the right people and being in the right place at the right times to succeed and the idea of anyone being "self-made" is a LIE.

I didn't say it couldn't be done.

"Be sure to keep repeating to yourself
You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination."

But that seems to be asking too much of most of the posters on here, you included.

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Bizkit 05/27/13 - 11:58 am
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American history is replete

American history is replete with rag to riches stories. It would just be ignorant to not recognize that fact-my wife's story isn't anecdotal. Studies have shown IQ isn't the only factor in success-motivation is another huge factor. To think that someone would call someone handicapped is ignorant too because now most have been conquered to significant degrees that most function, work and can do as most anyone else. The only people handicapped now are those who see these people as handicapped and different. They aren't. I have family members who work and are "handicapped" not that it slows them down from doing everything I do and even more. Blind, deaf, or limbless doesn't forbid people from productive lives.

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faithson 05/27/13 - 11:53 am
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cherry pickin'

i'd say we are all guilty of that every once in a while... i like biz'z 11:01... does put it in prespective. sure there was a motivation to give the 'less priviledged' access to home ownership... it was the wh***dog processors of the loans that failed the system. Frontline just did a story on them, very enlightning how a loan with NO way of being paid back was ok'd and sent upstream to wall-street for bundling and sold into the bond markets... I knew a few of the scoundrals who were wolves in sheep's clothing getting loans through to make those 'big' bucks.. and I am sure so do many on these boards. and it wasn't demo or repub's, it was GREED, a sin both sides of the divide have in common at times.

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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 11:56 am
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"The idea that anyone can

"The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie."

"I didn't say it couldn't be done."

Well it sure appears that is what you are saying.

If something is a fallacy, a lie, then you are saying someone can not pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and improve their life.....Now you are saying you didn't say it couldn't be done. Which is it dahreese?

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rmwhitley 05/27/13 - 11:57 am
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Blacks have
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always been known for their brilliant decision making: adam clayton powell, charlie rangel, bill campbell, jesse jackson, son and daughter-in-law, marion berry, o.j. simpson, all city, county and state prison systems in which blacks have residence, a crime rate more than twice that of the white population per capita, naacp, sclc, splc, cbc, obama, holder, jackson-lee, ray nagen, charles walker, his children, kwame kilpatrick and on and on. By the way, if I sound racist, it is because I am. When I was attacked by blacks (military blacks) while standing shore patrol in the Mediterranean during the riots both here and overseas in the early 1970's, they never were even charged. Too much political correctness then, also.

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dahreese 05/27/13 - 01:53 pm
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Which is it dahreese?
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Which is it?

Well, what do you think it is?

It's exactly what I said.

"The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie."

"I didn't say it couldn't be done."

That's "which" it is....

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allhans 05/27/13 - 01:08 pm
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There are "black" leaders

There are "black" leaders today who are fighting to convince others that they are on the wrong track. The message is that too many black leaders are out for their own gain (they live off this stuff..and live high at that.)
The modern day black leaders are unhappy with Democrats, Obama in Particular, for their failure in a leadership role. (You can look this up...they have been aired on C Span for months...)There ARE black leaders that care, but first of all you have to listen.....

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 01:40 pm
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Dahreese's thinking is what

Dahreese's thinking is what is destroying America and many peoples lives. If I thought like this I would have given up along time ago after all I am not responsible for my life or my actions and can do nothing for myself. Hey thats what all the liberals think!

dahreese
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dahreese 05/27/13 - 02:01 pm
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@RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 02:40 pm
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"If I thought like this I would have given up along time ago after all I am not responsible for my life or my actions and can do nothing for myself."

So, do you want to be excused, or blamed, for your failures?

If success in human life is as simple as a few of you are making it to be, regardless of the circumstances in life you were born into or disasters you occured in life, why are you only where you are now?

"Be sure to keep repeating to yourself
You owe it to an arbitrary god
Whose mercy to you rather than to others
Won’t bear to critical examination."

But that seems to be asking too much of most of the posters on here, you included.

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Truth Matters 05/27/13 - 02:04 pm
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Wow!

So RMSHEFF, you have met ALL liberals and know first hand what they think!

Awesome and not true.

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Gage Creed 05/27/13 - 02:28 pm
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Faithson ...Chicago

Faithson ...Chicago Democratic Machine.... ever hear of it? I wonder how many big dying cities have been controlled by the Democratic machine for the past 30 years or more?

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CobaltGeorge 05/27/13 - 03:00 pm
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allhans 02.:08

"Ben Carson"

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 03:53 pm
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dahreese, if you say

dahreese, if you say something is a fallacy and a lie then it can not be done, so saying I didn't say it can't be done is a contradiction in what you just said. It's called double-talk which makes no sense.

So again "which" is it? A lie, or can it be done?

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 04:08 pm
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@dahreese

I am an encourager not a discourager as you are. I will not tell people they cannot achieve their dreams because of some pre conceived notions. I tell many young people "if you think you cannot do something you are probably right" and "if you think you can do something you are probably right" . We all should expect people to be the best they can be and do the best they can. Sadly, many young people especially in the minority community have listen to a world view such as yours and are "without hope" because you have convinced them they cannot so they don't even try.

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itsanotherday1 05/27/13 - 05:26 pm
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Couldn't agree more

"Contraceptives and morning-after pills need to be easily accessible and affordable. Access to Planned Parenthood facilities for female health issues and advice should be expanded. All possible means should be promoted which will help prevent unwanted pregnancies. Then, hopefully, the abortion dilemma would become a non-event!!! "

How is that response from a so called right winger?

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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 05:58 pm
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"If success in human life is

"If success in human life is as simple as a few of you are making it to be,"

Excuse me dahreese? Who said anything about it being simple. You must be reading another article or a post by someone else. YOU are the one that stated it is a lie or fallacy to tell someone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and improve their situation. Then YOU are the one who said you didn't say it couldn't be done. No one said that circumstances you are born in or that circumstances of life don't effect your life but it does not have to determine where you end up. Is it hard work, YES, do we always succeed, not always.

I bible thumper like me understands you made a comment, then contradicted yourself by saying just the opposite. A bible thumper like me understands that there are people who do strive to become better and succeed and then there are those who continue to use excuses and complain about their poor circumstances in life to stay in the need.

"It makes plenty of sense to anyone who READS what was posted" that you fall in the latter category of excuses.

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RMSHEFF 05/27/13 - 06:01 pm
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I have become all that I

I have become all that I desire to become from a financial standpoint. Thankfully I had a dad that encouraged me. I now advise young people to take advantage of all that America has to offer in terms of opportunity. America is the last place on earth in which a person can be born into abject poverty with all the odds against him and still become whatever he dreams although because of Obama we are loosing this fast. His view of success is how many people the federal government extend welfare benefits to. My idea of success is how few people need welfare. We have completely opposite word views. My view is a can do attitude any your is a can't do attitude. Your preconceived notions are if you are born in the ghetto, in poverty, with physical handicap, one parent or orphan etc. then you can't rise to the top. You need to read the bio of Dr. Ben Carson as he have everything against him. I am only glad you were not around him to remind him he could not succeed.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 05/27/13 - 06:08 pm
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Let us remind dahreese

Let us remind dahreese exactly what he/she posted:

''The idea that anyone can pull himself or herself up by her/his own boot straps is an ego-centric idea. It is a falliacy. It is a lie. And only the ego-centric, the culturally and socially ignorant buy in to it."

So you are saying that it is a lie or fallacy that someone can work hard, have determination, and succeed and make a better life for oneself. Well if we all thought like you, we might all just give up.

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