Is 'Obamian' now a word?

President's unfolding scandals could overshadow Watergate

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Comparisons have been made recently between the lying, paranoia, arrogance and vindictiveness of the Nixon and Obama presidencies. But there may be no comparison.

Nixon may have just been outdone.

Certainly Nixon unashamedly rolled over people and the Constitution to cover up a third-rate burglary, and got caught.

But the cumulative effect of the Obama administration scandals – Benghazi, the IRS targeting of conservatives, the Justice Department’s secret seizure of Associated Press phone records, and let’s not forget the Fast and Furious gun-running scandal – may add up to much more than even Watergate.

In two of the four Obama administration scandals – Benghazi and Fast and Furious – people have died.

In the two longest-known scandals – Fast and Furious and Benghazi – there has also been stonewalling and obstruction by this administration. The attorney general was even held in contempt of Congress for the administration’s failure to come clean on its allowing illegal high-powered weapons to “walk” into Mexico and into the hands of ruthless drug cartels.

In two of the scandals – Fast and Furious and Benghazi – we still have victims’ families searching for answers as to how and why their loved ones died.

In the Benghazi scandal, high-placed Obama administration officials looked into the eyes of grieving relatives and told them an Internet video was to blame – which they knew to be a lie.

The AP scandal alone was termed a “nuclear event” by Watergate legend Carl Bernstein – who has been conspicuously and bizarrely slow to believe any allegations of impropriety coming from this White House.

“This is outrageous,” Bernstein said in a television interview this week. “It is totally inexcusable. This administration has been terrible on this subject from the beginning.

“The object of (obtaining phone records) is to intimidate people who talk to reporters. This was an accident waiting to become a nuclear event, and now it’s happened.”

Nor would it be out of character. This administration – legendary for its delicate rhetoric with regard to terrorists – has been simply iron-fisted with whistleblowers. Several Benghazi whistleblowers have said they have either feared, been threatened with or actually hit with retaliation for telling what they know. And a report says “six current and former government officials have been indicted in leak-related cases, twice the number brought under all previous administrations combined.”

The secret seizure of Associated Press phone records may be the most frightening of all the Obama scandals. It’s a transparent attempt to punish truth-tellers and to intimidate reporters and their sources into silence.

It’s alarming that the government would have the gall to seize any private phone records without notice or a specific warrant. To do so at a news-gathering agency is a manifest attempt to chill freedom of speech and the free flow of information that is vital to a self-governed people.

The authority of the people and the press to operate without undue government interference, and to be secure in our papers, homes and effects, was supposed to be established in our Bill of Rights.

Yet, as most of us know, because of the raw and often unchecked power of government, those rights can be as easily cut through as cellophane. The dance between the press and the government is a delicate one; it requires a respect on the part of government for our basic freedoms and the crucial role the press plays in securing them.

God help us if that vital balance has been forever altered. If this unmitigated assault on freedom is left unchanged, then the altering has begun.

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specsta
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specsta 05/16/13 - 01:25 am
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Short Memory, Guys?

ACES wrote - "It’s alarming that the government would have the gall to seize any private phone records without notice or a specific warrant."

Let's make sure to give credit where credit is due - you can thank George W. Bush and his Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act for this one.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 05/16/13 - 04:17 am
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Newspaper man you have lost
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Newspaper man you have lost your mind. Quit making stuff up.

carcraft
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carcraft 05/16/13 - 05:32 am
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Making stuff up? What was

Making stuff up? What was made up? Please be specific. The truth is Obama has lied from the start. Obama lied about bloody Sunday, Obama lied about his mothers health insurance during her fight against cancer, The scientific report about the oil spill was altered by the Obama administration. The press has turned a blind eye to all of this, until now. About Fast and Furious, Holder gave testamony to Congress. Congress obtained memos showing a conflict with Holder's testamony. Congress requested more memos and further testamony to clear up the issue. President Obama claimed executive authority and stoped the investigation It is now being litigated in court. Holder and the Obama administration were very slow to release any documents on Fast and Furious. 2,000 weapons resulted in the death of over 300 people in Mexico. Obama then has the gall to go to Mexico and blame the violence there on guns from America. Is that stone walling or not? The Obama administration , through Jay Carney , said there was one change in the CIA memo. We now know there were 12 changes. All referances to terrorists was left out and the fake demonstration was inserted. Then a known lie was told to the American people on 5 talk shows and Obama's message to the UN reinforced the idea it was a demonstration that got out of hand. The Ambassador to Lybia requested further security repeatedly, and was denied. While the Embassy was under attack Obama was parting and fund raising in Nevada. We have an unprecedented tapping of reporters phones by the Justice Department, whom Holder is in charge of. When Holder spoke before congress yesterday he sounded like Sargent Shultz in Hogan's Hero's," I know nothing". Well I am sorry Mr Holder is in charge and should have known. Obama's response to the IRS scandal? Fire the guy who wasn't there when it happened. (sarcasm button on) Makes sense to me...( Sarcasm button off). So please explain to me what was made up?

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Riverman1 05/16/13 - 04:45 am
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Pinocchio Wasn't Real Either

The very liberal Washington Post gave Obama Four Pinocchios for his statements about Benghazi. That’s their highest classification of lying. It’s considered a “whopper.” At press conferences, White House spokesman, Jay Carney, had just as well take the 5th Amendment the way he says he can’t answer anything about “ongoing proceedings.” What are we supposed to do, wait until Obama leaves office to get answers?

Obama's puppet strings are getting tangled and he is trying to appear real, but the teleprompter words and strings are not working in unison. Bless his heart.

carcraft
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carcraft 05/16/13 - 05:30 am
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Specstra- The Bush Department

Specstra- The Bush Department of Justice refused to tape phone lines of reporters to plug leaks. Obama has now gone further then the hated Bush. He signed the up dated patriot act into law and HAS taped repoters phones. This isn't going to go well for Obama because both Democrat and Republican law makers like to leak to the press and do thier little game playing. That they could be outted about thier little games scares the heck out of them. Every American has to deal with the IRS and most of us don't like it. That we could be targeted because of our religious beliefs or political beliefs is chilling. Most of us aren't as well connected as say Charlie Rangle of turbo tax Gauitner so we are naked in front of the IRS. That the power of the IRS can be used to push political ends is scary! This is going to leave a mark!

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myfather15 05/16/13 - 06:02 am
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Typical liberal comment on this topic:

Bla, Bla, Bla; blame Bush.
Bla, Bla, Bla; it's Bush's fault.
Bla, Bla, Bla; George W. Bush started this.
Bla, Bla, Bla; it was Bush's idea.
Bla, Bla, Bla; Bush's policies are to blame.
Bla, Bla, Bla; I can't remember but I think Bush is to blame.
Bla, Bla, Bla; I'm can't speak directly about this because it's under investigation, but I'm pretty sure somehow this is Bush's fault.
Bla, Bla, Bla; well Bush did it first (like a 3 year old child says)
Bla, Bla, Bla; Congress is too blame.

So, lets just sum this up. Liberals are to blame for absolutely NOTHING, never making mistakes; and Bush and republicans are to blame for EVERYTHING. Got it? Good, glad we could clear that up. I'm quite sure somehow this Benghazi deal is republican's fault AND I think the IRS was targeting only TEA PARTY conservatives; which Romney wasn't a tea partiest and he probably had the IRS investigate them because they didn't fully support him. So, the IRS deal was Romney's fault.

Fast&Furious we've already established was Bush's fault because he started all this with "Wide receiver"; the ol "Mommy, Johnny did it first and told me too." Mommy's response "If Johnny told you to jump off a cliff, would you?" I guess the Obama administration's mommies didn't pose that last question to them.

BUT, I really think we need to blame Gov. Rick Perry at least partially for the Fast&Furious. If for no other reason than he is just too darn conservative; makes me sick. So, lets blame him for something.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 05/16/13 - 06:32 am
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Yea keep over playing , and
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Yea keep over playing , and watch what the voters do .

ymnbde
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ymnbde 05/16/13 - 07:27 am
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a President of our lesser nature

a media worshiping their lesser god

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/16/13 - 07:47 am
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When was it.. a few years ago

When was it.. a few years ago it was reported the Prez was using the Patriot act to spy on a huge number of citizens (fishin' expedition)-but that story never went anywhere. It isn't obamian-its the Obama-nation. Much more accurate and descriptive. It's funny when Bush did this patriot act stuff people went crazy, yet Obama has double downed on (even beyond his own party approval) the patriot act making it much more invasive. All I heard were crickets. Obama was originally against the Patriot act till he became president and he realized he could use it for his own personal political gains. I am sure Obama hands are in the IRS scandal, Benghazi cover up. even spyin' on AP. All for his political advantage-puts Nixon in a new light. I loved Obama's "I am not a crook speech-ala Nixon". Bush was incredibly popular at one point and then everyone (inc his own party) abandoned him. I see a similar scenario for Obama when even all his supporters here will finally admit he is liar and deserves prison time.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/16/13 - 07:53 am
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Attorney General Holder needs

Attorney General Holder needs to be immediately fired for being stupid and incompetent. What fool would put second under his command as an unbiased observer as he recused himself-that's just retarded. Anyone that stupid should nog hold office. Obama seems to think he just has to say I didn't know about it to clear his name, yet it just proves he is incompetent (for not knowing) and unfit for office. The buck stops with him-ignorant or not.

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Humble Angela 05/16/13 - 07:54 am
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"Let's make sure to give
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"Let's make sure to give credit where credit is due - you can thank George W. Bush and his Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act for this one."

Please, for the love of God, explain how it is George Bush's fault for something that the Obama administration did. Just because you CAN do a thing, doesn't mean you must. Obama refuses to enforce DOMA, he could also choose to not enforce the Patriot act, yet you give him a complete pass on this one. Good lord.

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Bizkit 05/16/13 - 07:58 am
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Logic isn't in the vocabulary

Logic isn't in the vocabulary of the progressive. I was watchin the talkin' heads on MSNBC and they all seem to think that only the IRS scandal is an issue for the Prez, and their concern is that it will delay Obama's agenda. They still don't see any concerns except maybe he was too slow to react to IRS scandal. True believers eh. Some believe in God and some Obama. Good luck with Obama-you'll need it.

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nocnoc 05/16/13 - 08:00 am
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I know O-bomination now is as

I know O-bomination now is
as well as O-Mama Nation as a phrase

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 05/16/13 - 08:04 am
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Every possible Grounds

for Impeachment but, very little is being said about it. SAD.

LillyfromtheMills
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LillyfromtheMills 05/16/13 - 08:32 am
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Can't wait

To know what the historians say about the Obama years and about the man himself. I just pray the dems are not still in the WH in 2016.

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soapy_725 05/16/13 - 08:35 am
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Could it be that the passage in Revelation was
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the "Obamanation of Desolation", instead of Abomination of Desolation? Only one letter difference. It could have been a matter of phonetics. Nostradamus was of by one letter with Hister.

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grouse 05/16/13 - 08:45 am
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All this spying on citizens
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All this spying on citizens began with the Patriot Act which was Bush/Cheney's idea. There is no evidence, unlike with Nixon, that Obama was personally involved in any of the recent "scandals." Covering up actually want in Benghazi? No one on the right can answer that question.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/16/13 - 08:56 am
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Funny, historians (which of

Funny, historians (which of course aren't just expressing their opinion and are neutral observers) rank Bush poorly (over 50% a failure). My bet these same historians would rank Obama very highly-despite the dismal failure of 8 years AND if you were to compare Bush and Obama year by year for each of their eight respective years in all categories. I can't wait for the analysis to prove my point. hee,hee,hee -why not fail both. But of course Obama's low grades are Bush's fault.

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faithson 05/16/13 - 10:26 am
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biz

history will include what the president did after he left office too. becoming a second rate painter will probably not help W's ratings.

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dahreese 05/16/13 - 11:13 am
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"It’s alarming that the
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"It’s alarming that the government would have the gall to seize any private phone records without notice or a specific warrant."

This did not begin under the Obama administration.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619

For that matter, here is a whole host of wrong doings, legal and illegal.

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/04/70619

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Humble Angela 05/16/13 - 11:16 am
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So dahreese.....Since someone
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So dahreese.....Since someone else did it, then Obama gets a pass from you. This is so predictable. Just keep pointing somewhere else when your guy does wrong....people can see right through it.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/16/13 - 11:39 am
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So you could argue that Bush

So you could argue that Bush got away it. But now in support of that argument we have a real chance to get the present incompetent immoral crook in office and maybe this criminal will serve some time for war crimes, etc. as does Bush deserve. Correct. You can't be arguing that because Bush walked we need to let the present criminal in office walk too???

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myfather15 05/16/13 - 11:55 am
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@HA

You won't get a response to your last comment. LP's tend to ignore comments that expose their hypocrisy. Again; "It's like I'm playing cards with my nephews kids for crying out loud!!"

Honestly, it's like we are children playing in a playground. Teacher: Why did you do that little Johnny?" Johnny: "Because Timmy did it first." Teacher: "If Johnny decides to drink pure gasoline, are you going to do that also?" Answer in liberal logic: "Aboslutely, and if Johnny drinks one gallon, I'm drinking 10 gallons. Then I'm going to blame Johnny when I die." And somehow the LP's believe this is rational logic. Geezo pete, are we in trouble!!

dahreese
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dahreese 05/16/13 - 12:05 pm
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"...people can see right
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"...people can see right through it."

And some people can not see through the constantly right-wing editorials that appear in this newspaper.

"...people can see right through it", however, if they're willing.

For example, when have you posted anything that disagreed with these editorials?

The fact is, I have not defended a single time, during these comments or anywhere else, the times the CIA or Homeland security have snooped on American citizens without a warrant.

Additionally, if you had dared to read the links I posted above (which you haven't) you'd have seen that "liberal" complaints have been made against both GWB and Obama.

Not so conservatives.

If the Benghazi affair is indeed a coverup by the Obama administration (which is still up in the air) it still pales in comparison of lost lives with the disruption of the Christmas truce in Vietnam that was due to begin in 1969, but was sabotaged by Nixon and Kissinger and that behavior allowed the war to be continued until 1974 with additional lost of KIA American soldiers.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 05/16/13 - 12:02 pm
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Oh boy, these folks just wish
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Oh boy, these folks just wish the worst for this President, I know why, but can someone tell me.

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Darby 05/16/13 - 12:08 pm
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"Let's make sure to give credit where credit is due

- you can thank George W. Bush and his Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act for this one."

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Wow, five years now, and it's still George Bush's fault. That man was really amazing.

Still, we did get Bin Laden using Bush's blueprint so maybe there is something to all that Bush hype!

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dahreese 05/16/13 - 12:12 pm
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"- you can thank George W.
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"- you can thank George W. Bush and his Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act for this one."

Correct.

The "Act" was written before 9/11 and was sitting on the shelf waiting for such a tragedy to happen in hopes of passing it.

And the "Act" would not have passed without such a tragedy.

This allowed us to move more toward a police state. GWB grabbed a lot of power not held before by any president - and he abused it right and left.

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dichotomy 05/16/13 - 12:15 pm
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Non-stick not working.

I believe Obama's Teflon is flaking. He finally stepped on the media's toes and all of a sudden they can no longer ignore the Benghazi cover-up, the IRS being used as a weapon against conservative groups, the EPA charging conservative groups for information and giving it to liberal groups free, and Holder spying on their media brethren.

And he can't even blame any of this on Bush. I'm waiting for him to say he found a bag of Nixon's Dirty Tricks in a closet somewhere and opened it by mistake so it's all Nixon's fault.

And after the 2012 elections I will not try to predict what the voters will do but as far as I am concerned, Hillary is toast due to Benghazi, lack of action prior, lack of action during, and cover-up and denial afterwards. Of course, the voters might have done something different in 2012 if they had not been LIED TO about Benghazi and if the IRS had not been used as a weapon to suppress conservative groups for the previous 2 years.

Secretary of Defense needs to resign over Benghazi too for lack of action and the cover-up. Secretary of Treasury needs to resign over the IRS scandal. Attorney General Holder needs to resign over 1) New Black Panther voter suppression 2) Fast and Furious, contempt of Congress 3) Shotgun spying on the AP phone records.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/16/13 - 12:17 pm
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"The fact is, I have not
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"The fact is, I have not defended a single time, during these comments or anywhere else, the times the CIA or Homeland security have snooped on American citizens without a warrant."

Perhaps, but you are quick to point to any and all other examples of someone else doing wrong. Why is that? Someone else doing wrong does NOT minimize the crime.

"Additionally, if you had dared to read the links I posted above (which you haven't) "

Complete false statement. (by the way, unsubstantiated claims are a violation of the posting policy, which either YOU didn't read, or chose to ignore.)

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 05/16/13 - 12:18 pm
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"The "Act" was written before
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"The "Act" was written before 9/11 and was sitting on the shelf waiting for such a tragedy to happen in hopes of passing it. "

For starters, let's see you back that statement up with proof. Secondly, as stated above, the act could have been signed by George Washington, but it was the Obama Administration that carried this scandal through. Why can't you or he accept responsibility for ANYTHING?

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