Will the government get away with it?

Obama administration has lied and covered up on Benghazi attacks -- right under Americans' noses

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Even after explosive congressional testimony on the Benghazi scandal by heroic whistleblowers on Wednesday, the nation is left with a growing list of unanswered questions.

Who in the Obama administration decided to deceive Congress and the American public on what caused the Sept. 11 attack last year on our embassy, which led to four deaths and many injuries?

Why did they bald-faced lie to us, repeatedly – even as they secretly admitted to Libyan authorities as early as Sept. 12 that they knew it was a terrorist attack? Why tell us a different story – which turned out to be a fairy tale?

As for that fairy tale, who in the administration concocted a wholly false narrative that the attack was the result of a street protest outside our embassy over an anti-Muhammad Internet video? U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice told that lie most prominently on all the Sunday talk shows. Who told her to tell that lie?

This government carried its lie so far that it had the video’s producer arrested – apparently hoping they could scapegoat him for all time.

What are they hiding, and whom are they protecting?

They’re sure protecting someone in the administration – a whole lot better than they protected our diplomats in Benghazi.

Who decided in the weeks and months before the attack to decline urgent requests from the embassy there for more security? How could they have left it so vulnerable on the anniversary of 9/11?

Is it true that a rapid response force in Tripoli was mobilizing to respond to the attack when they were told by someone in our government to “stand down” and let our embassy burn? If so, who and why?

Was the lying and cover-up an attempt to pave the way for Obama’s re-election – to avoid a huge embarrassment on the cusp of the election, that his administration completely miscalculated the threat from terrorists and left our embassy personnel in the lion’s cage?

If so, how is that any nobler than Watergate? Isn’t it even more despicable?

Why have the whistleblowers felt coerced, if not threatened, into silence until now?

How is it that those responsible for this scandal still have their jobs?

As much as the major news media want to change the subject – they decided the tabloid story of the kidnapped women in Cleveland was somehow more impactful on all our lives – Benghazi isn’t going away.

Let’s hope not, anyway.

That brings us to perhaps the most important of all the questions surrounding this scandal: What if the government gets away with this?

What if there is no accountability for all of this? What if there are no repercussions for leaving the embassy open to attack; not lifting a finger to save our murdered embassy personnel; lying about it all for days on end, at the highest levels of government; trying to cover it up for months on end; trying to intimidate witnesses into silence, and more?

What kind of precedent will that set? Will this or future administrations be above anything? If they can throw these courageous,
hazardous-duty public servants under the bus, what won’t they be capable of?

What will Americans be saying about ourselves if we meekly acquiesce to
substantive and brazen lying by our government about life-and-death matters? Won’t we be graciously requesting more lies and abuse?

And, after our government has thrown these good and decent folks under the bus, won’t we then be throwing them to the wolves with our indifference?

Our brave Americans serving us in the treacherous forward-area of post-Gadhafi Libya in no way deserved their fate.

If we remain unmoved, surely we will deserve ours.

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Riverman1
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Riverman1 05/10/13 - 03:39 am
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“What does it matter?”

Hillary Clinton particularly comes across very poorly in the episode as she screeched at the Congressional committee, “What does it matter?” She also stood by the casket of a victim and knowingly lied to lessen her responsibility in the negligence. The liberal press refused to discuss the issue before the election because it was a game changer if the truth had been known. History won’t be kind to the officials involved…or to the press.

carcraft
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carcraft 05/10/13 - 04:34 am
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Riverman just doesn't get it!

If Obama and his administration lies it is OK! He lied about Bloody Sunday march and the press concocted two bloody Sunday marchs to cover for him. His administration altered a scientific report on the Gulf oil well spill. NO problem. Obama lied about the keystone Pipe Line. Holder lied to congress about Fast and Furious. Over 300 people dead and 2,000 weapons in the hands of drug cartels, the media and Obama supporters yawn and say Bush did it. Obama finally declared executive priviledge to cover Holder as the Congress was closing in.After all that, why did Obama not think that he could have Rice lie to the American people and He could lie to the UN? Even Candy Crowley covered for Obama and his lies during the debates. Obama has even lied about the circumstances of his own mother's death to push health insurance. A few diplomates killed at an embassy, no problem to lie about it..

carcraft
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carcraft 05/10/13 - 04:44 am
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I'll save the left a little time

1) Fox news, only stupid peole watch it need I say more?
2) Faux News talking points
3) Bush did it .
4) Nothing new here samo samo
5) Yawn
6) Are the Koch brothers buying Morris out?
7) Bush lied
Does that about cover it?

Rhetor
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Rhetor 05/10/13 - 04:51 am
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maybe

We did hear very compelling testimony from a credible whistle-blower. More inquiries are certainly called for. This editorial and the readers comments thus far do, however, do far beyond the facts. 1. Were warning signs missed before the attack? Should more precautions have been taken? The answer is yes, as always in these cases. Embassy attacks have occurred under Republicans as well, as you may recall, and, in hindsight, these also should have been prevented. 2. "What difference does it make?" was Clinton's response to the administration's reliance on erroneous intelligence reports that were made after the attacks, not before. There is always confusion for a few days after such events. Hicks is right that people on the ground often understand these matters better than the bosses in DC. There clearly are lessons to be learned, and I hope that the State Department learns them, but charges of a coverup are clearly overblown. Indeed, there is a tone of desperation in the Republicans' wild charges (and in this editorial, I feel). 3. Were the military forces turned away because someone chickened out? Or because the mission was logistically impractical? That is something that we don't know for sure. We do need to find out. 4. The Republican budget-cutting was in part responsible for this, as well. I'm not talking about Bush; I'm talking about the Republicans in Congress right now. The State Department with its all-too-small security budget is one of those supposedly useless government programs the Republicans tried to strangle at the time, and are still trying to strangle. Finally, enjoy the blessings of a nation that allows you to publish such a wild, unproven anti-government diatribe without the slightest fear of retribution. Have a great day here in the sunny CSRA.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 05/10/13 - 05:24 am
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CARCRAFT--you forgot hilliary

CARCRAFT--you forgot hilliary testimony...what does it matter why it happened??... AND our embassies were attacked b/4 during bush some 58 times...quess you got that covered under bush did it and bush lied...WHO told them to step down..even the 2 ex seals who died trying to save them..were ordered to step down..Why??? why is the only person behind bars is that video maker ...when it is utterly apparent he is no way quility of anything but some old charge or something...why were the whistle blowers demoted?? we got to the bottom of a 2 bit break in called watergate...where is the press now??

karradur
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karradur 05/10/13 - 05:31 am
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Remember when....

...during the Benghazi inquisitions, the Republicans accidentally broadcast to the entire world that the Libyan embassy also housed a secret CIA base?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-s...

karradur
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karradur 05/10/13 - 05:33 am
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Remember when...

...President Nixon said this?

"You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana are Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists."

RunningMan
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RunningMan 05/10/13 - 05:41 am
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The Birth Certificate

CarCraft - You forgot Obama is not really an American and has no love for this country.

karradur
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karradur 05/10/13 - 05:42 am
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And this?

"I have the greatest affection for them but I know they're not going to make it for 500 years. They aren't. You know it, too. The Mexicans are a different cup of tea. They have a heritage. At the present time they steal, they're dishonest, but they do have some concept of family life. They don't live like a bunch of dogs, which the Negroes do live like."

Go ahead and glorify President Nixon more, ACES. I have lots of transcript quotes.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 05/10/13 - 05:54 am
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YES they may get away with it.

To paraphrase an old saying.

They that rule makes the rules.

Followed by.

Rule #1. Rules don't apply to they that make the rules.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/10/13 - 06:00 am
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Finally, the Chronicle is

Finally, the Chronicle is worried about American deaths overseas. These four appear to be the tipping point, among the thousands that have come before, that have opened their eyes. Since Hick's timelines don't match up to events, he's coming off like a disgruntled employee. He'll prove to be wrong (no right winger will ever believe it), be the right wing darling, get guest spots on right wing talk shows and Fox (sorry, redundant), a book deal, and retire fat and happy just like he wanted. You guard embassies with the men you have (or the ones you're budgeted by the GOP House) and you go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time (even if their Humvee's aren't armored). When something goes wrong you never have enough.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/10/13 - 06:33 am
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A somewhat odd place for

A somewhat odd place for information of this type but a pretty good explanation of the hierarchy of security at diplomatic missions:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/dont-blame-the-...

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 06:34 am
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Why???? OMG what a no

Why???? OMG what a no brainer-one was actively running for prez and the other will likely be announcing her candidacy soon enough. Ruthless people who will run over anyone for their personal goals. Isn't there a book out about how the Clinton's planned all these presidential ambitions early in their careers-you have to have a plan or at a minimum be a community organizer (LOL).

carcraft
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carcraft 05/10/13 - 06:37 am
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Well we have finally made it

Well we have finally made it to Nixon! I wonder if Bod will present racist statements by folks like LBJ "with the civil rights act the N-----s will vote Docratic forever".May we could even get some nice racist quotes for all gores dad! When you can't argue substance attack the source or change the subject!

Riverman1
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Riverman1 05/10/13 - 06:40 am
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Nixon?

Interesting the inferences some draw, logical or not. The Chronicle says it was a Watergate like event and some commenters interpret that as a defense of Richard Nixon. But what the Chronicle had actually asked was: “If so, how is that any nobler than Watergate? Isn’t it even more despicable?”

Revelations about commenters often come out in their comments far beyond the intent.

carcraft
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carcraft 05/10/13 - 06:41 am
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Trillion dollar deficits

Trillion dollar deficits billions for "green energy" and yet blame the Republicans for State Department failure!

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 06:48 am
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What polarity-one group

What polarity-one group grabbing at anything that will stick to the administration and the other any excuse for anything that does stick. I remember Watergate and for this lesser offense (Obama already spies on Americans) and not too many people were trying to defend Nixon for his actions. I think there needs to be a non-political appointee to explore this more because I don't care where the truth lies but something doesn't add up. The President always talks about being patient and getting the fact yet he didn't bother at all with Benghazi with the immediate spread of false info. I don't know about an active cover up but anyone with half a brain knew that at that juncture in the president's bid he didn't need bad press and I am sure he wanted it all to go away. I find solace that in another ten or twenty years we will find out who are the real criminals who have held the presidents office. Even Kennedy's Camelot bubble was exposed. I like history and I've always wondered what the heck were people thinking when they did this or that. People never learn from history

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 06:49 am
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Maybe talk about Johnson's

Maybe talk about Johnson's Johnson-Jumbo. Makes about much sense as these Nixon comments that missed the point. sigh.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/10/13 - 06:52 am
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Trillion dollar deficits for

Trillion dollar deficits for green energy? Yet you get abuse warnings if you're not ultra delicate when you point out the, the, the, silliness in that statement.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 05/10/13 - 11:22 am
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I can't believe some
Unpublished

I can't believe some of this'stuff

harley_52
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harley_52 05/10/13 - 07:00 am
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The Sad Fact Is...

...that to many democrats, their political agenda overwhelms every other facet of their lives. It trumps God, family, Country, tradition, ethics, their financial well being, their respect for innocent human life, and every other aspect of their life I can think of.

Yes, this is more despicable than Watergate. In fact, Watergate is child's play by comparison. The ACES wonders what kind of precedent this might set? Here's one....it is now acceptable behavior for the government of the United States to station her military and diplomatic staff in harms way and to abandon them to death and torture when under attack for purely political reasons.

Think about the ramifications of that precedent. What do we tell our recruits from now on?

justthefacts
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justthefacts 05/10/13 - 07:14 am
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Damned if you do and...

"4. The Republican budget-cutting was in part responsible for this, as well." Wouldn't you like to have a nickle for everytime some Democrat has stated that the Republicans want to cut everything but defense spending?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 07:15 am
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There was 90 billion of Green

There was 90 billion of Green energy subsidies in stimulus. I think we need to invest in research on green energy. But the problem with Obama is these investments were not logical science oriented but political choices for political allies who donate to his causes. And you can already argue the govt already invests our tax dollars on green energy from fuel cells, biodiesel, etc. through granting agencies. Why does the Prez (who knows nothing of science or economics) pick winners when we have a peer-review method of scientist picking the winners that has driven our research to be the best in the world. Why because he can buy votes.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 07:17 am
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Obama is part of a political

Obama is part of a political machine (which were outlawed) that is unstoppable. We need to dismantle this machine no matter the political party.

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CobaltGeorge 05/10/13 - 07:18 am
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First:

I would like to say to the "Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff ", you have done one great job of writing an editorial that is beyond words of dispute. As we know, some on here will try but their lack of common sense comments will say it all.

Second:
If there was anytime in past history that an "Unlawful Order" on the "Stand Down Order" that was given in Tripoli should have been not honored, This Was The Time!
If I would have been in the position and had the capability to do everything available to protect, free and save our patriotic Americans, I would have disobeyed those orders. It is a rotten shame that this great nation has a CIC that doesn't even know what a DD-214 is.
You have to be the lowest level of human to ever respect this King SMNCICBHO, a Hammer & Sickle Man.
As in the military, "No Solider Left Behind" so as "No American Should Be Left Behind"

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 05/10/13 - 07:37 am
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The second largest investor

The second largest investor in one of the green energy projects was the Walton family of Wal-Mart fame who have donated hundreds of millions to right wing causes and more groups to work against the president than any other investor in the projects could have raised. That blows the political payoff theory.

karradur
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karradur 05/10/13 - 07:48 am
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@Michael Ryan So from what

@Michael Ryan

So from what I'm interpreting, the "talking points" were scrubbed so that the FBI/CIA could continue operating the CIA Benghazi secret base and continue their investigation without tipping their hand to Al-Qaeda that they knew they were behind this.

@CobaltGeorge

What on earth does "SMNCICBHO" stand for? I'm guessing something racial, then "Communist-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama".

Bizkit
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Bizkit 05/10/13 - 08:02 am
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What Bod??? Because Walmart

What Bod??? Because Walmart is a big investor in Green energy has nothing to do with my posit that Obama was investing in companies who have donated to his causes. Try again. That isn't even logical. Of the 33 companies who received "loans" I don't see Walmart, and part of the 90 billion supplemented programs already established by Bush when he was prez. I don't have a problem with investment just how it is allocated.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 05/10/13 - 08:01 am
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Really?

"So from what I'm interpreting, the "talking points" were scrubbed so that the FBI/CIA could continue operating the CIA Benghazi secret base and continue their investigation without tipping their hand to Al-Qaeda that they knew they were behind this." Haha. ah, OK.
Most everybody else will listen to Hillary's direct report saying we got to fix this so the people won't know we were asleep at the wheel.

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