The evil we can't ignore

Was this about radical Islam? It's folly to ignore the possibility

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Vastly varying emotions lay heavy in the spring air Friday as authorities closed in on the mega-violent, ultra-evil Boston bombing suspects.

News Friday morning of one’s death and the other’s scramble to escape brought immense relief – the hope of closure, and the apparent answer to the prayer that this abhorrent crime against humanity wouldn’t go unsolved.

Neither a years-long investigation nor the most meticulous jury trial could’ve rendered a more certain conclusion: We got ’em. Otherwise, you have to believe that two men perfectly fitting the suspects’ descriptions, and who just happened to be armed better than a small army while killing a campus cop in cold blood, have been wrongly fingered.

At the same time, that will be of limited comfort to the marathon’s severely wounded and those who are mourning loved ones. And Monday’s lasting horror was only added to on Friday, by more killing as the heavily armed terrorists sought to take others down with them in a blaze of rabid viciousness.

Relief is also tempered by the realization that there most certainly are others already here or on the way who have similar scruples – which is to say none – about killing innocent men, women and children.

The suspects’ backgrounds as Muslim brothers with ties to violence-wracked Russian republic Chechnya also will put a spotlight on America’s internal war against political correctness, the tenets of which – we’re not really at war, you can’t call it terrorism, you should never “profile” –
inarguably add significantly to the
dangers of modern American life.

That danger was ominously present in the bizarre hopes and expectations among terribly misguided folks on the left that the bombers would turn out to be Americans – preferably white conservative Americans. The unspeakable alternative, of course, was radical Islam – and even after all these years and attacks, that’s something our liberal friends just can’t get their arms around.

Before the suspects’ identities were known, CNN’s Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday shared with the Arab American Institute her “hope beyond hope that this doesn’t turn out to be what it might be” – meaning, of course, radical Islam.

Why? Why hope that it is or isn’t a certain nationality, religion or ideological persuasion? Why play favorites like that? Would it feel better? Terror is terror. Ripped limbs are ripped limbs. Dead children are dead children.

The answer to the question, of course, is that the left is desperate to prove that radical Muslims aren’t a threat, because that doesn’t conform to politically correct dogma. But they’re perfectly willing and even eager to postulate, repeatedly, that conservative Americans are a threat (see editorial Friday, “The Boston Scare-athon”).

Not even being wrong time and again has convinced them otherwise.

We happen to think it’s wrongheaded to assume or, heaven forbid, actually hope that terror emanates from a particular demographic group. Evil isn’t the exclusive franchise of a particular people. Like goodness, barbarity can be found in every shape, size, color and creed, and every corner on Earth.

But it’s also fatal and beyond irrational to ignore real patterns and true threats. Or to try to imagine them away.

We must work for a better world, while dealing honestly with the one we’re currently in.

At this writing, the Boston bombers’ motivations weren’t clear. Whatever their psychotic methods, one would think their real beef would’ve been with Mother Russia. It seems highly improbable that any tie to Russian politics or dreams of Chechen independence led them to attack America.

Were they mentally ill? Isolated and un-assimilated?

Perhaps. Another possibility, as uncomfortable as it might be, is that they fancied themselves part of radical Islam’s homicidal effort to build a worldwide
caliphate, while inflicting maximum pain on the West.

We pray that, rather than try to hope otherwise – or to gin up offense at the notion – that Muslims worldwide will instead dedicate themselves to eradicating hatred in their midst.

And in our midst too.

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Conservative Man
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Conservative Man 04/20/13 - 03:54 pm
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There is enough extremism on BOTH sides...

...I'm willing to admit that the far right has it's share of nut jobs. Timothy McVeigh et al.
But to NOT identify radical Islamists as such when they commit heinous acts, in order to mollify CAIR, or the canard of "political correctness" is lunacy..
The media has absolutely ZERO problems with using the term "right wing extremist" but they shy away from using the term "Muslim Terrorist", when that's clearly what they are...Remember, these guys are motivated by religious intolerance....PERIOD...
As I said earlier, there is enough intolerance on both sides to go around, but it clearly seems that this particular type of "nutdome" cannot be labeled anything other than what it is....
Islamic Terrorism.......

carcraft
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carcraft 04/20/13 - 03:58 pm
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Liberal Bombers anybody?

Don't forget that we have had our share of left wing nut jobs that used bombs and killed, including Obama's own buddy Bill Ayers. Why is he getting a pass? Redfors is making a movie about Ayres glorifying him as we speak. I guess it all depends on who gets blown up and killed !

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/20/13 - 04:14 pm
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So convenient that dahreese,

So convenient that dahreese, JRHC, and those like minded have forgotten that many prominent democrats also believed what has never actually been proven concerning the WMDs. How soon we forget.....

“The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.” — Bill Clinton in 1998

“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore, 2002

“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force – if necessary – to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

AND, that is just a small handful of those wonderful Dems that "lied" right along with GWB......or so they say but fail to provide proof.

rmwhitley
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rmwhitley 04/20/13 - 04:40 pm
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A few predictions:
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2017- Boston bomber brought to trial. 2016- last conservative executed in New England.

carcraft
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carcraft 04/20/13 - 04:44 pm
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In Christ Love, you are

In Christ Love, you are correct!

faithson
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faithson 04/20/13 - 04:56 pm
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bottom line....

lies or not... one has to believe in WAR as a means to an end to justify the violence heaped upon the sovergien nation of Iraq by America. Like GWB said, History will be the determinator. This committee that found FOR torture is just the begining. Evil will never overcome Evil, there is only one element that can overcome evil... good. as for all the balderdash about lies, there is plenty of finger pointing on both sides.

dahreese
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dahreese 04/20/13 - 05:37 pm
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"So you can't provide
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"So you can't provide proof?"

Is the man's own word good enough for you or is he too much of a liar that even you won't believe him?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/03/AR201011...

dahreese
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dahreese 04/20/13 - 05:51 pm
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"Obama has had no problem
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"Obama has had no problem firing drone missils evan when small children are present. Yet here comes the old " it is all Bush's fault" garbage!"

If you conservatives would learn how to read instead of react and accuse, you'd see that "liberals/progressives" have (even above) not approved of Obama's using drones that kill innocent people.

I clearly stated above, that at least with a sword, the intended target is the one who takes the hit.

The problem with conservatives is that you feel like you have to defend the country/government even when it's wrong.

You swallow and wallow in editorials like the one above - over and over and over (nor am I the only one today to point that out - see some of the early comments) and think you're being soooo patriotic while you do it.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/20/13 - 05:51 pm
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"Bush previously had

"Bush previously had acknowledged endorsing what he described as the CIA's "enhanced" interrogation techniques - a term meant to encompass irregular, coercive methods - after Justice Department officials and other top aides assured him they were legal. "I was a big supporter of waterboarding," Vice President Richard B. Cheney acknowledged in a television interview in February. "

dahreese, did you not read all the article in your own link. It was clear the President was assured that the interrogation procedure was legal....so why wouldn't he approve of it, if it meant it would get information to save American lives......so if someone gives you false information and you make your decisions based on that information, then you are the one who is a lair. Sure encompasses a whole mass of people in this world.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/20/13 - 05:59 pm
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" and think you're being

" and think you're being soooo patriotic while you do it."

Well one thing is clear, you don't have to worry about that part yourself (being patriotic) now do you.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 04/20/13 - 06:02 pm
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Dahreese, I asked for proof
Unpublished

Dahreese, I asked for proof that he lied. You gave a link to him saying he was wrong.....big difference. By your standard YOU lied, because you were wrong. You accuse conservatives of having trouble reading, yet you seem to not know the difference between being wrong and lying. Try again.....prove he lied, if you can.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:03 pm
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duh, dah

I thought the whole Bush lied and the discussion is/has been about the reason for going back to war against Iraq. Comparing droning people to death versus waterboarding is a separate discussion mentioned. However, I don't recall the Bush admin advocating or reports of waterboarding inside the borders of the US. How come Obama wants to use drones ovef America.

Could it be that he has intel that our(the dem's) border policy has allowed free access to our country of some very dangerous people?

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:08 pm
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over, not ovef.

over, not ovef.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 04/20/13 - 06:13 pm
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Barack Obama is a war

Barack Obama is a war criminal just like George W. Bush. Obama said some pretty words in Cairo early in his first term about changing the course of U.S. foreign policy, but Obama has quintupled illegal U.S. drone strikes. All I can say is that United States' militarized foreign policy including the war on terror will not turn out any better than the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Torture, the killing of civilians, and corruption are why United States cannot win in Afghanistan or even withdraw and leave a stable pro-western government. The war on terror has been entirely counterproductive. That is why the list is growing of countries where United States is waging war - in the Middle East, in South and Central Asia, and in Africa. Again, I submit that the war on terror has not only resulted in blowback at home and abroad, it has actually morphed into World War Three. Obama won't see peace during the rest of his tenure as Commander in Chief, and the next President will inherit wars and a collapsing U.S. economy because of militarism driven by the increasingly desperate military industrial complex and financial industry. Peace is the sine qua non for adopting an equitable, sustainable economy.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:17 pm
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The verdict is not in,

The verdict is not in, regarding Saddam's wmd. One of his own guys has said it was sneaked across the border into Syria in advance of the US arriving.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:18 pm
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Actually

I think he is a warlord.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 04/20/13 - 06:21 pm
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I wonder if Mr. Cain
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I wonder if Mr. Cain considers the captured terrorist to be a war criminal. Some how I doubt it.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:34 pm
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So you say peace will solve

So you say peace will solve the unsustainable debt the US has? Don't think so. They are pointing their fingers at us (Medicare and SS). And as you did, at defense, which we need.

But then, I think a whole lot of money spent on the welfare class is totally unnecessary, unless the goal is to buy votes and power in perpetuity.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:44 pm
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HA

I have known of Mr. Cain's posts since 2007. I don't recall him ever condemning any country or group as vehemently as he condemns the US, especially under Repub admins. In fairness, it may be because he expects better behavior out of the US than of others. Not necessarily out of Repub admins, though.

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 06:50 pm
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In all fairness to him, I do

In all fairness to him, I do not for one minute doubt his loyalty to America. I do not mean to imply anything other. He years ago tried to explain to me off this site, why he and I have such different views on things.

dahreese
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dahreese 04/20/13 - 06:54 pm
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"Well one thing is clear, you
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"Well one thing is clear, you don't have to worry about that part yourself (being patriotic) now do you."

I served 4 years in the USAF from 12/62 - 12/66 - volunteered.

Is that patriotic enough for you? (Probably not).

You're about politics as you are about religion;

If you question our going to war, you're afraid of being anti-patirotic.

If you question your religion, you're afraid of going to hell.

Have you ever asked yourself the question, who needs religion anyway to lead a spiritual life?

Or does thinking like that scare the bejezuss out of you? (Now quote me some scripture).

But.....back to the editorial above; do you and others on here not see the propaganda in that editorial - the intent to take the behaviors of a few misfits and disseminate it to a whole culture?

And you wonder why we're hated?

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 07:06 pm
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Whoa, whoa, whoa

Are you implying there are not people on this site who don't do the same thing when it comes to people who profess to be Christian?

I can give you names, but I like posting here, and I think you are intelligent enough to know who I am referring to.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 04/20/13 - 07:12 pm
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Proof

KSL says:"The verdict is not in, regarding Saddam's wmd. One of his own guys has said it was sneaked across the border into Syria in advance of the US arriving."

I am sure that HA wants proof that one of his own guys has said it was sneaked across the border into Syria in advance of US arriving. And when HA asks for proof, HA wants proof!

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 04/20/13 - 07:23 pm
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Observation..

People who ask for proof tend to be people seeking to prolong an engagement on this site. When you know you are telling the truth and one still begs for proof, that is a good sign that they are not capable of recognizing the truth, or they willfully choose to ignore it, and finally, it means their definition of truth is relative to their political sphere.

dahreese
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dahreese 04/20/13 - 07:28 pm
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"How come Obama wants to use
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"How come Obama wants to use drones ovef America?"

Could it be that the powers who control Congress and the American government are afraid of the American people?

Could be....

Ever hear of "Suspension of the Constitution" in time of war or national crisis?

I'd be very interested in everyones opinions about that. Plenty of "proof."

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 07:30 pm
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And people who respond like

And people who respond like you, tend not to have proof.

It was recently reported in the news that weapons believed to have originated in Iraq have been used in Syria. I read it. I am not going to go find it for you, should you want the proof.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/20/13 - 07:31 pm
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LOL....WRONG. Normally when

LOL....WRONG. Normally when people ask for proof, they disagree with what you stated and want you to provide proof as to what you say has truth to it. When you avoid providing that proof you play this game of "I know the truth, you just can't recognizing the truth" game so as to make you appear you know the truth, when in reality you have no truth at all. That's call lying Truth Matters....LOL, that is so not fitting.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/20/13 - 07:31 pm
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First off dahreese, I would

First off dahreese, I would say thank you for your service but just because you served 4 years almost 50 years ago, in my opinion, does not make you patriotic. Patriotism is in the heart, and I sure don’t see it coming out in any of your post.
I have no issue with someone questioning war, but it is your quiet condemnation of others who defend this country (whether right or wrong). It’s like a family…..you can disagree and argue with each other but you let an outsider say something negative about your family and it’s all over but the beating......my view is that we are the patriots, the US family, and you seem to be the outsider, wanting to tear down. We may not be a perfect nation but it’s ours and if you find us sooooo patriotic, what does that say about yourself. Hince, my comment.
As I stated several days ago and you have totally ignored my response and wish to continue to play this “religion” back and forth game. Like I’ve repeat numerous times (and you ignore), death does not frighten me and repeating the same old tired blah, blah, blah, has become tiresome. Truthfully at this point, your eternal destination is no concern of mine and scripture will do you no good so why would I repeat it….you’ve made your point so let’s move on (that is if you can quit talking about it. Seems you can’t help but bring religion into any discussion we have) Makes me wonder if you are under conviction.
Now back to the editorial….

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 07:36 pm
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Ever heard of would be

Ever heard of would be dictators manipulating things?

I would ask you 2. Have you ever met anyone who sought refuge from a dictatorial government? Well I have!!

KSL
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KSL 04/20/13 - 07:47 pm
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Afraid of the American people, dah

Does he have reason to be? Does he have sinister plans against the people, this country, and our way of life? Referring to the suspension of way of life.

The incidents of terrorism in America have predominately been performed by Islamists since he took office. Not blaming him, just pointing it out.

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