Where do you draw the line?

After Sanford's runoff win, can anything disqualify you from public office?

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In a recent editorial, noting the blatant disinformation and deflections coming from this White House – and how former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is nonetheless considered a frontrunner for president in 2016 – we asked, “Does anything matter?”

We now ask the same with regard to the nomination of Mark Sanford for Congress.

The disgraced former South Carolina governor and one-time congressman recently won the Republican nomination to fill his old seat, vacated when Tim Scott was appointed to replace Jim DeMint in the U.S. Senate.

What in the world are voters thinking?

Have they simply forgotten Sanford’s extensive transgressions? Have they truly forgiven him? Or did they just pull a lever for the most familiar name?

It’s hard to believe they’ve forgotten; Sanford’s stunning disappearance and infidelity with an Argentinian woman while governor was an international sensation.

As for forgiving, that’s certainly the compassionate thing to do. But forgiveness doesn’t require trying to make someone whole again. In the case of a politician, it’s not necessary to return him to office to forgive him.

We forgive Mark Sanford. We just wouldn’t want him to be our congressman, and we can’t imagine why anyone else would either.

If voters worked through all this and simply decided to overlook Sanford’s trespasses in the hopes he’ll do a good job, we would return you to Question No. 1 above: Does anything matter?

This isn’t even about Sanford’s infidelity to his wife. His betrayal of South Carolina was just as pronounced. He just flat disappeared at one point, leaving behind a fantastic fib about walking the Appalachian Trail – when, in truth, he’d gone south to see his mistress. He left behind no one in clear charge of the state, and a cadre of assistants who were put in the untenable position of having to lie to the press and public about his whereabouts.

If someone can do all that he has done and still be rewarded anew with a prestigious elected position, where is the line? Precisely what kind of behavior disqualifies you for high office in this country?

Anyone who voted for Sanford in the runoff and who also wanted Bill Clinton impeached, get your hypocrisy level checked immediately.

If we continue ignoring the behavior and records of political candidates and officeholders, voters will lose any right to complain about what they might do to us.

Some of them have pretty clearly established ahead of time what that is.

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owensjef3
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owensjef3 04/10/13 - 03:12 am
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Wow, did I just read this.
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Wow, did I just read this.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 07:26 am
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Sanford Was Too Open

Mark Sanford’s problem was that he didn’t lie when it came down to it. There have been many elected public officials who divorced while in office. They kept the public in the dark and would state the old “irreconcilable differences” explanation. Sanford was too open.

Look, Bill Clinton was reelected president after the Monica Lewinsky bizarre sexual escapades in the White House Library came to light. Of course Jenny Sanford with her Augusta “connections” doesn’t like her ex doing well, but times have changed.

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Bodhisattva 04/10/13 - 06:56 am
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David Koch is behind him and

David Koch is behind him and on his donor list, as are folks from Virginia, Texas, New York (a plastic surgeon, hmmm), California, Georgia, Connecticut, Washington, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, North Carolina, Tennessee, Wyoming, Colorado, Washington DC, Maryland, Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, West Virginia, and even some folks from South Carolina. I wonder what all of these folks want for their money? Lots of real estate. An offshoring private equity group. A lot of "homemakers" (they appear to be loaded). The group that own QVC and Starz. An air taxi service that according to Wiki shut down and filed bankruptcy in 2009 but still has $2,600 to give Mark in 2013. Just a few to ponder on. Of course there's the lovable and cuddly David Koch.

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00285254/859604/sa/ALL

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deestafford 04/10/13 - 07:23 am
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Just because someone else does something

doesn't make it right. Also, to say times are changing may be true but that doesn't make it right either. Some of the times are changing for the worst as values become relative rather than absolute.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 07:25 am
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Well, $2600 won't buy you

Well, $2600 won't buy you lots of favors. David Koch is a Libertarian who has given hundreds of millions to various charities. He gave $100 million to the NY State Theater at Lincoln Center. I can see him making a token donation to someone such as Sanford who has many Libertarian views.

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seenitB4 04/10/13 - 07:38 am
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Maybe he should have lied..

Like millions of others...geez

Give me a break AC...you don't get a vote on SC congressmen...

If we cleaned DC ....every Tom Dick & Harry who have ventured into this (dare I say) dalliance....we wouldn't have many left to do business in the Capitol.....it would be veeery EMPTY..

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justthefacts 04/10/13 - 07:38 am
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David Koch

A true patriot.......and a good customer btw.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 04/10/13 - 07:48 am
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???

???

Riverman1
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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 07:51 am
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We don't need conservatives slamming conservatives

We don't need conservatives slamming conservatives. Bill Clinton would hang out in porn movies and do the Pee Wee Herman in the dark if he could get away with it. Think there was romance involved with Clinton while Monica looked for books on the lower shelf in the library? Sanford, fessed up, divorced and married the woman he loved.

Bodhisattva
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Bodhisattva 04/10/13 - 07:53 am
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Yeah, the Koch's don't give

Yeah, the Koch's don't give millions to buy the process. Ask Clarence Thomas and Scalia. They're on they're payroll.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 08:10 am
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Give me Clarence Thomas' and

Give me Clarence Thomas' and Scalia's phone numbers and I'll call and ask them what you are talking about. For goodness sakes, Koch ran for VP as a Libertarian, why wouldn't you expect him to give to conservative candidates....all $2600.

From Wiki: "Since 2000, David H. Koch Charitable Foundation has pledged or contributed more than $750 million to further cancer research, enhance medical centers, support educational institutions, sustain arts and cultural institutions, and conduct public policy studies.[20][4] Since 2006, the Chronicle of Philanthropy has listed Koch as one of the world's top 50 philanthropists."

owensjef3
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owensjef3 04/10/13 - 08:01 am
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Well we know this about the
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Well we know this about the GOV, he's in great shape. What a long hike.

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Humble Angela 04/10/13 - 08:14 am
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It has been my observation
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It has been my observation that when liberals bring up the Koch brothers, it is for the soul reason of demonizing their wealth.....as if being successful is something to be shunned.

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nocnoc 04/10/13 - 08:49 am
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IF Mark Sanford

Is running as a Republican, then the Political fix was in to get a Democrat in the seat.

I wonder why and what the pay back is?

Is he changing parties down the road, or getting a cushy job later?

After all Democrats, Socialists, and Liberals tend to be extremely forgiving of men that cheat on their wives and break their oath to GOD.

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allhans 04/10/13 - 10:27 am
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I don't have a vote in the

I don't have a vote in the race but if I did I would vote for Mark Sanford.
He is a conservative...that is in his favor. NO more Dems in congress, please.
That is where I draw the line.

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dichotomy 04/10/13 - 10:10 am
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Middle age makes men do

Middle age makes men do strange things. They have brain farts. Bill Clinton had several, the last that we know of was Monica. It is generally accepted the Bill Clinton was a pretty good president before her and it is generally accepted that he was a pretty good president after her. Mark Sanford was a pretty good governor before Ms. Argentina and I see no reason he could not be a good Republican congressman in the future.

If you are the kind of person who picks their representatives based on these kinds of things, then fine. But good luck finding one that won't disappoint at some point in time because, I hate to say it, but politicians from ALL parties and of BOTH sexes have affairs and yes, gasp, even get divorces. If you vote for candidates based on their MOUTHED "family values" you will be consistently disappointed.

I personally don't care if someone runs around naked in the woods howling at the moon if they have the right positions on taxes, intrusive government, and defense.

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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 10:21 am
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Sanford is running in the

Sanford is running in the district that represents Charleston. It's as conservative as any place in the nation. He will easily beat the Democrat, Colbert's sister.

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BamaMan 04/10/13 - 10:43 am
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What it boils down to,

is people are overlooking very bad decisions made by someone WHILE IN OFFICE to represent the people that voted for him, for a roll in the hay. He somehow disappeared from the state with no one watching the stove. If you want a divorce, get one. His decision to abandon his constituents like he did are most troubling. He's a creep, no holds barred. If someone makes such bad decisions with their own life, does that not somehow make you question what decisions he will make with other people's lives, ones that I truly doubt he gives a flip about? It's all about money, power and control. Period. I have no doubt he's pruning for Pennsylvania Avenue anyway he can get there, turncoat or otherwise. This type of person is narcissistic, and step on all on the way up without looking back or giving it a second thought. Think he cares about South Carolina? Think again. Anyone that would vote for him again I seriously question THEIR redeeming qualities. Character just does not matter anymore. It says a whole lot more than cheating on your spouse.

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palmetto1008 04/10/13 - 10:47 am
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well said, dichotomy!!!
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well said, dichotomy!!!

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GnipGnop 04/10/13 - 12:34 pm
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Funny..

When republicans commit adultery they should be run out of town on a rail...when democrats do it they should be re-elected....if all the liars, cheats and criminals left Washington D.C. all at the same time there would be nobody left......hmmmm come to think of it.....

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Fundamental_Arminian 04/10/13 - 01:06 pm
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Is crossover voting to blame?

Could Mark Sanford have won because of a crossover vote? Democrats may have considered him more vulnerable in the general election than his Republican oponent would've been. Whew! I'm glad I don't live and vote in Sanford's district.

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ultrarnr 04/10/13 - 01:11 pm
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Koch Brothers
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they and Sheldon Adelson are the same-trying to buy politicians. The outrageous amounts of money funneled into political campaigns by special interest people is one of the problems. it costs so much money to run for office and the reult is that most elected officials on both sides are bought and paid for.

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David Parker 04/10/13 - 01:20 pm
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He's SC and I'm in Ga. Live

He's SC and I'm in Ga. Live and let live as far as I'm concerned.

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Darby 04/10/13 - 01:54 pm
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"David Koch is behind him..."

That explains it, the evil Koch brothers are at it again....

They were no doubt behind Bubba Clinton's resurgence following the Lewinsky scandal as well.

It must be lonely being a committed liberal and having to spend SO much time, day after day totally immersed in liberal web sites and blogs just so you can cut and paste to forums like this one.

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Fiat_Lux 04/10/13 - 03:47 pm
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If we, who identify ourselves as conservative and

as having traditional values and moral standards are outraged and scandalized by the behavior of such moral worms as Bill Clinton, yet neglect to express the same level of outrage and affront toward Mark Sanford, then we have no right to express our opinion about any liberal, leftist or democrat's personal failings in the future.

No one can have it both ways, even though the liberals, lefties and Democrats simply refuse to believe that.

Mark Sanford's victory, should he actually win, will be Pyrrhic.

"For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" Matthew 16:26

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Riverman1 04/10/13 - 03:03 pm
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Mark Sanford will win the 1st

Mark Sanford will win the 1st Congressional District of SC by a huge margin. End of story.

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seenitB4 04/10/13 - 04:39 pm
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HUGE margin

He will win....warts & all....we don't have perfect people...especially not in DC...

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AutumnLeaves 04/10/13 - 08:16 pm
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My reason for...

My reason for not voting for him if I lived in SC would be because any man in public office that would tell the media that his mistress is his soulmate while he was still married to his wife, is too stupid for any job I can think of, and especially anything that requires public relations expertise. Apparently he thinks public relations is taking his immoral behavior public and trying to rationalize it. I'm sorry but humiliating his wife and the mother of his children and stomping all over her heart like that shows a tremendous lack of character, judgment, commonsense and is just plain stupid, to boot! I would not vote for him if he was the only one running.

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Darby 04/12/13 - 10:41 pm
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"Mark Sanford's victory, should

he actually win, will be Pyrrhic."

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Absolutely correct. On the other hand, I'd rather have a sleaze who votes Republican rather than a sleaze who votes Obama and Shummer.

He could at least, serve as a place holder until a real Republican can be found.

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Darby 04/13/13 - 10:38 pm
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"Yeah, the Koch's don't give

millions to buy the process."

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You are absolutely right. That job is the exclusive realm of George Soros.

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