Growing defiance

More citizens ignoring federal law -- much like the federal government

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You may have heard the word “nullification” bandied about recently. It’s basically a fancy word for ignoring a law.

Juries sometimes do it, if they think enforcement of a law will result in an injustice. Merriam-Webster defines nullification as “the action of a state impeding or attempting to prevent the operation and enforcement within its territory of a law of the United States.”

And now, increasing numbers of sheriffs and others across the country are publicly saying they will engage in nullification if faced by federal gun or health-care laws they find unconstitutional.

Ignoring laws is rarely a good thing. We’d say never – but we’re reminded of Rosa Parks’ and other civil rights icons’ peaceful defiance of the immoral laws and customs of segregation.

An increasing number of folks are no less convinced that Washington is trampling on other civil rights.

Sheriffs in Idaho, Oregon and Texas have announced their intent not to go along with expected gun control laws. Other officials have said they won’t enforce the health-care law. A state representative in Tennessee wants to make it a crime to enforce gun or ammunition bans in that state.

And several hundred gathered at the South Carolina capitol recently for a “Nullify Obamacare” rally. They were promised efforts by several state officials to block “federal encroachment.”

There’s a proud tradition of states’ rights in South Carolina – exemplified not that long ago by the light bulb. When federal law began phasing out production of the incandescent light bulb, South Carolina lawmakers passed “The Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act” to allow for its production and sale within the state, which Washington can’t prevent.

But nullification has rarely seen this much favor since the Civil War, and may only gain steam if Washington continues down the path of trying to run everyone’s lives.

Washington may have no one but itself to blame for the rise of the nullification movement – particularly the Obama administration, which has set the standard for ignoring the law.

It was this administration, after all, that decided not to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act. Even though the “Dream Act” can’t pass Congress, Mr. Obama “enacted” it via executive order – announcing that his administration would not deport illegal aliens who came here as minors. There is no such exception in the law.

His administration also announced that marijuana crimes would not be a “priority” – again, picking and choosing which laws to enforce.

When it appeared the defense industry might have to issue layoff notices to workers because of impending “sequestration” cuts just before the November election, the Obama administration encouraged contractors to ignore the law that seemed to require the notices.

The Obama administration also tried to block enforcement of state anti-voter-fraud laws last year.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Senate has failed to pass a budget as required by law the past four years – and the Obama administration has announced it won’t have a federal budget ready by the statutory deadline.

We don’t endorse the ignoring of laws. But if there’s a growing sentiment of defiance toward enforcement of federal laws in the land, Washington can’t exactly throw stones.

It has perfected the art.

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HighTides
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HighTides 01/28/13 - 01:22 am
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Don't think Washington can't throw stones?

Think again. Do you really think that your personal hoards of weapons can make a DENT in the US Army? The gov has more stones, and they are much bigger than whatever firecrackers you have in your personal armory.

Let's face the facts. You know you don't want an ak47 for hunting or to protect yourself from intruders, you want it because you have this far fetched hope that one day you'll be able to rise up for Great great great great grandaddy and finally kick some yankee butt. Every one of you people out there hankering for a fight or to withdraw from the States don't know what you're asking for.

The south was stomped in the first civil war, and it would get stomped again, with the same meaningless loss of life and devastation as the first war. All for what? So you can have as many high powered weapons as you'd like? So you can burn energy hogging lightbulbs? To keep hippies from smoking dope? Priorities, people!

And finally, Nullification and Interposition have been thrown out of the Supreme court numerous times, most famously in Cooper vs Aaron, with the court explicitly holding that states may not nullify federal law.

specsta
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specsta 01/28/13 - 02:40 am
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Congress Disrespects American Citizens

Here's a thought - how about sanctioning lawmakers who sponsor stupid laws? I mean, how many laws do we need? Seriously!

At some point, every American will be a lawbreaker, all thanks to some brain-challenged legislator who would rather propose a law that does nothing to enhance the lives of US citizens, like HR 235 "Recognizing the 200th anniversary of the Battles at the River Raisin and the significance of these battles during the War of 1812." This was proposed in Congress on January 18, 2013, right in the midst of our fiscal crisis.

Or how about S-Res-11 - A resolution "Expressing support for prayer at school board meetings." Proposed on January 3, 2013. This, of course, takes priority over continued unemployment in this country.

Then consider the priority of limiting the value of those pesky coins - HR 220, Stop The Coin Act - "To amend section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, to limit the face value of coins that the Secretary of the Treasury may issue, and for other purposes." Lord knows most American tremble at the thought of a $250 denomination platinum coin.

Add in dozens of resolutions restricting abortion funding, restricting abortion providers, restricting access to "Obamacare", and throw in the highest priority of re-naming a dozen or so bridges, it is evident that we are being led by a crop of buffoons in Congress.

Nullification isn't the issue. It's the slate of ridiculous laws that are proposed by lawmakers who worship at the alter of lobbyists.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 01/28/13 - 05:35 am
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Where Should Disregarding the Constitution Stop?

It appears we have two camps divided into constitutionalists and those who favor the federal government making the rules in defiance of the Constitution. If the Constitution is the basis of our government, ensuring our individual and states’ rights, then those not adhering to its principles are the lawbreakers. Infringing upon the Bill of Rights is an act that should be resisted even if the enforcers have been elected and are wearing uniforms. I’d like to ask the anti-constitutionalists where they believe disregarding the Constitution should stop?

carcraft
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carcraft 01/28/13 - 06:36 am
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Knowing people that serve in

Knowing people that serve in the military of much of their political bent, I think many in the military would side with us peasants! Even the leftest arn't that far to the left.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 01/28/13 - 08:31 am
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specsta01/28/13 - 01:40 am

I hope I'm reading you right, if so, for once I agree with you.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/28/13 - 08:35 am
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Seems obvious that

Seems obvious that progressives want a socialist form of govt (even some support communism). We've heard them argue Obama wasn't a liberal. Obama isn't a socialist. Obama isn't..... blah, blah, blah. Now that cat is out of the bad and they all laud how liberal and socialist he really is. Somebody has been deceptive.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 01/28/13 - 08:36 am
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You are right carcraft...

Can you imagine our military personal with all their power that is available turning against there fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, wives, sons and all their relatives...Hell No!

Lets not forget all the commanders given such and order...Hell No!

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/28/13 - 08:38 am
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Light Bulbs

You mean I can still buy my fav bulbs in SC ..thanks for telling me....

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/28/13 - 08:52 am
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Now Obama is promising more

Now Obama is promising more change-llke taking the violence out of sports. Shoot he will also have to make it "fair" too-so no losers just all the same. So much for the SuperBowl. Mr. Nanny hates freedom.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 01/28/13 - 08:58 am
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Can't Help Posting One Of My Emails

From: Dudley Brown
Date: 01/27/13 15:09:09
To: George
Subject: National Gun Registration

Dear George,

I keep reading reports in the anti-gun national media that Americans support full-scale national gun registration . . .

I keep reading claims that Second Amendment supporters like you support handing the name of every gun owner in America to President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder . .. .

Now, they’re saying polls show that you support giving anti-gun bureaucrats the power to strip American gun owners of their Second Amendment rights at will!

George, they’re lying. I know it and you know it, too.

But with the national media spewing the gun-grabbers’ propaganda, issuing sham polls and whipping up anti-gun hysteria into a frenzy nationwide, I’m worried Second Amendment supporters just aren’t getting the facts.

You see, yesterday I read a news report that one NRA “A-rated” Democrat -- Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia -- is working on a Senate Bill incorporating many of the worst of the gun-grabbers’ schemes.

In fact, Manchin claimed to be secretly working with the NRA on a scheme to institute universal Brady Registration checks.

This may or may not be true, but it should give us all cause for concern.

Unlike the Feinstein Gun Ban, Manchin’s schemes may sound innocent.

But in each one, the devil is in the details -- and not one of them could have stopped the recent tragedy in Connecticut.

Instead, they’re all designed to “cash in” on the tragedy by RAMMING into law;
*** A so-called “Universal Background Check” National Gun Registration Scheme.

That means EVERY private transfer of a firearm will need a “background check” -- even just passing a hunting rifle down to your son. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the only way to enforce this scheme is to keep records of every gun and gun owner in America.

And everyone knows what firearms registration leads to . . . Firearms confiscation!

*** Legislation “closing” the so-called “Gun Show Loophole.”

As part of their plan to make sure EVERY gun in America is tracked and traced, gun-grabbers are going after gun shows to demonize all private firearms transfers;

*** A National Mental Health Database.

This radical scheme is designed to give federal bureaucrats the power to strip law-abiding citizens of their rights without trial or a conviction by a jury of their peers.

No one wants to confront a madman with a firearm.

But already, 38 states have some form of a mental health database, and records show 100,000 veterans have been stripped of their gun rights by simply acknowledging stress upon returning from war.

And one former Surgeon General claimed that 46% of Americans will experience mental illness in their lives.

Do we really want to strip nearly half of all Americans of their gun rights?

Of course not.

But you can bet President Obama does.

So don’t be fooled.

All the gun-grabbers’ “reasonable-sounding” schemes are crafted to set the stage for their radical ultimate goal -- the outright CONFISCATION of every firearm in America.

George, I know this isn’t information you’re getting in the national media.

They’re more than happy to keep spreading the gun-grabbers’ lies.

Right now, we’re facing the biggest threat to our Second Amendment rights in a generation.

So I believe it’s absolutely CRITICAL you understand all the facts behind the gun-grabbers’ assaults.

The National Association for Gun Rights -- with your help -- will fight every one of these radical schemes tooth-and-nail.

But I need to make sure as many Second Amendment supporters as possible know the TRUTH about what President Obama and his anti-gun pals are seeking.

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 01/28/13 - 09:12 am
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Military on Gun vs. Civilian owned Guns

Regarding the writers article,

Well written, factual and logically shows a Federal level of Progressive & Social smothering.

Jury Nullification is something every future Jury Member must understand. Because it may be the only available option left to peacefully defend our rights against the continued growth of National / Federal Socialist movement.

The one thing that is going for the Citizens right now is:
The US Military and all Federal LEO's employees are sworn to the US Constitution and NOT the President.

If that should change because of a "Sudden" emergency .......

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/28/13 - 08:59 am
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The Dem machine is so

The Dem machine is so effective at misleading the masses. Like all the rhetoric with AK47 and semi-automatic rifles. Few deaths are related to this weapon-handguns are the weapon of choice for obvious reasons. But logic and truth means little to progressive Dems. It is all a ruse to go after one gun so they can get the next-progressives hate freedom just favor for the select.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/28/13 - 09:35 am
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Support

So far, I support these sheriffs who declare they have no intention to enforce proposed new federal gun control laws. I don't think their actions are necessarily nullification, however. Just think about it; the county sheriffs have their hands full enforcing local, county, and state laws. Piling federal laws on their backs would be an untenable burden. And let us not forget that when some sheriffs said they would begin enforcing federal immigration law, Barak Obama had a hissy fit and said local law enforcement agencies were not to even think about enforcing federal immigration laws. Well, Hussein, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I say, let federal agents enforce federal law; and let sheriffs enforce state and local law. That seems simple enough.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/28/13 - 09:46 am
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It sure is nice to know that
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It sure is nice to know that "HighTides" has the ability to know why people want the guns that they want. Problem is, he is wrong on two very important things. First. During the U.S. Civil war, the south didn't WANT to fight anyone. They simply wanted the Federal government to leave them alone, just as those patriots among us want the Federal government to leave us alone. Second, he forgets that the American Colonists were quite successful in defeating the far superior fire power of the British Army, and part of that was because the King thought that his Continental Army would be fighting on his side. I could see our current King making that same fatal assumption.

SFCRET85
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SFCRET85 01/28/13 - 09:59 am
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Editorials advocating
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Editorials advocating Nullification coded as "States Rights" appeared in this very newspaper in the years 1850-1861.

How did that work out?

And yet isn't it amazing how the words "One nation under God" so often touted by the Chronicle, doesn't seem to apply when like spoiled little children, they're not getting their way?

Techfan
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Techfan 01/28/13 - 10:12 am
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You have to give

You have to give conservatives and the right wing credit. They are nothing but consistent. When their particular brand of hatred and bigotry begins to lose favor, they fall back on the same tried and true rhetoric and methods. States' right, nullificatiion, secession, voter suppression, voter intimidation, Gerrymandering, redistricting other than after a census, and the current talk about altering the Electoral College. It's all the same. A minority of people try in some way to alter the system that grants them power over the majority. I said conservative and right wing because parties come and go, and philosophies change within parties. Yesterday's Democrats (at least in the South) become Dixiecrats, which become Republicans and make the the base of today's Republican Party. They talk not about the real Constitution, which took the disparate states and formed a binding union. The Articles of Confederation were replaced with a Constitution which gave this union ultimate authority over the states as shown in Article 6, Clause 2: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.". Editorials like this harken to the darkest days of our nation in times during the Civil War and the days of Jim Crow laws. Our nation was founded with a method of change, the ballot box. The Republican has now turned so far to the right and has allowed such reactionary groups to take control that their policies are no longer tenable to the majority of Americans so, instead of moderating their policies, they look to chicanery, suppression, and changing the rules to assure that their minority gains control over the majority of Americans. They've lost the polpular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections (only bolstered in 2004 by 9/11) and had 2 million less votes in Congressional elections in 2012. Only through gerrymandering do they still control the House. They need to look in the mirror and listen to their own rhetoric to see why the vast majority is turned off to their message, not stoop to dirty tricks to maintain power. Unfortunately, it looks like they're not above using any means available to see that the will of most Ammericans is thwarted.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/28/13 - 10:14 am
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Pesky

Specsta posted:

Then consider the priority of limiting the value of those pesky coins - HR 220, Stop The Coin Act - "To amend section 5112 of title 31, United States Code, to limit the face value of coins that the Secretary of the Treasury may issue, and for other purposes." Lord knows most American tremble at the thought of a $250 denomination platinum coin.

Hey, if lawmakers want to do away with a pesky coin, I'd support legislation abolishing the penny. It's a waste of money and time to have those things cluttering up commerce. Just round the total purchase price at the cash register up or down to the nearest zero or five cents.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/28/13 - 10:18 am
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Judges

Thanks, Techfan, for mentioning judges, but where do you stand on the sheriffs saying it's not in their best interest to enforce federal law (i.e., federal agents should enforce federal law)?

Techfan
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Techfan 01/28/13 - 10:27 am
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Dudley Brown doesn't sound

Dudley Brown doesn't sound like he's wrapped very tight. He obviously has an aversion to the truth.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/28/13 - 10:31 am
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A sheriff is a federal agent?

A sheriff is a federal agent? Every place I've ever lived we voted for them on a county level.

DanK
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DanK 01/28/13 - 10:34 am
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Ignore more laws

It is okay to ignore federal laws, just because you don't like them? How about state and local laws? Is it okay for me to ignore those?

"Nullification" will accomplish nothing positive for the citizens of Georgia. The army does not have to march into Georgia to enforce restrictions on firearms. All the federal government has to do is cut off funding that supports state law enforcement officers and programs.

But it won't come to that. I'm sure everyone here (including ACES) remembers that, during the 1990s, there was a gun bill introduced. Former presidents Reagan, Carter, Ford and Bush sr joined Clinton in vocal and visible support for the bill. But the NRA owns a lot of congress critters. The NRA still owns a lot of Congress critters.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/28/13 - 10:35 am
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The rest of Article 6 Section

The rest of Article 6 Section 2:"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

KSL
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KSL 01/28/13 - 10:36 am
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That's one way not to answer

That's one way not to answer a question.

KSL
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KSL 01/28/13 - 10:39 am
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Well, if the pres is not

Well, if the pres is not going to uphold the laws, why should sheriffs?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/28/13 - 10:43 am
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You gotta give Techfan
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You gotta give Techfan credit. When his opinions aren't supported by the facts, just accuse the right of bigotry and hatred........don't bother backing it up or anything. We understand.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/28/13 - 10:44 am
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Let me see if I got this
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Let me see if I got this right. It's NOT OK when states say they won't enforce unconstitutional laws, but when the President says he won't enforce unconstitutional laws, he's a hero? Why is that?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/28/13 - 10:47 am
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Posted by Techfan
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" they look to chicanery, suppression, and changing the rules"

You mean like the President who was found GUILTY by FEDERAL court of violating the Constitution by holding "recess" appointments when Congress was NOT in recess?

Michael Ryan
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Michael Ryan 01/28/13 - 11:03 am
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Angela, it's worse than that.

Angela, it's worse than that. The president isn't even claiming the laws are unconstitutional. He's choosing not to enforce constitutional laws...

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/28/13 - 11:07 am
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And yet his Acolytes continue
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And yet his Acolytes continue to support him no matter what. It boggles the mind.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 01/28/13 - 11:21 am
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The thing that puzzles me about Obummer

is that he seems to think all Americans are the kind of stupid sheep that voted for him--twice. I just find it so hard to believe he doesn't realize what he is causing to happen among the so-called silent majority.

And if anyone honestly believes American soldiers are going to be firing on their fellow Americans for fighting the destruction of our Constitution and the rule of law, well, you probably voted for Obummer. That would explain why you would think something like that.

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