Reduce the demand

In nation's abortion debate, common ground can be found

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Forty years after the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling, we still don’t know how to talk about abortion in American society.

We protest it, rally for it, yell at each other, and we pass restrictions on it and then wail about how burdensome the restrictions are.

Very little that has happened in the past 40 years involves rational, reasoned discussion or education or talk of common ground.

We don’t, for instance, have much dialogue about how to limit abortions – not through government, though that’s certainly legitimate, but through our own voluntary actions as an enlightened citizenship.

The pro-choice side tries its best to stifle debate by 1) talking exclusively about the woman having an abortion and her rights, not about the child that dies from it and 2) frequently bringing up the specter of rape or incest.

Let’s talk about that last point.

First, understand that rape and incest account for less than 1 percent of all abortions.

Second, the subject of abortions arising from rape or incest isn’t widely studied, but what little information we do have indicates that someone other than the victim often makes the decision to abort; 80 percent of the women regret the abortion, even though the baby was the result of a sexual assault; and no victims reported regretting taking the baby to term.

On a purely practical level, neither does the child share any of the blame for the sexual assault.

At bottom, even those who support abortion rights don’t necessarily have to support abortion; that’s one reason they prefer to be called “pro-choice.”

Indeed, there’s no reason why abortion rights supporters and abortion opponents can’t find common cause in working to at least reduce the number of abortions. Nor have we ever understood why some folks are so adamantly opposed to requirements that pregnant women who are considering abortion be given as much information as possible on the medical consequences, the fetal realities (how fetuses recoil in pain) and the wonderful alternatives to abortion, which include making a young couple ecstatic at the opportunity to adopt a child.

We would hope, too, that even abortion rights supporters would see the need to reduce the number of abortions by shrinking the number of unwanted pregnancies. The awful truth – which we have yet to confront in the past 40 years – is that the overwhelming majority of abortions are belated birth control that follows irresponsible and wholly self-indulgent promiscuity.

Babies, in short, pay the ultimate price for a night of selfish pleasure.

How can anybody be for that?

Our pro-choice friends complain bitterly about legislative attempts to restrict abortions. But we fear they wildly exaggerate the harm to women, while ignoring the benefits to them of up-to-date information. Most laws passed since Roe actually make for safer and more accountable services.

Nor should pro-choicers begrudge the rest of us from declining, in the firmest possible terms, from having pro-lifers’ money fund something we fundamentally believe is taking an innocent life.

In Augusta, we have a rare situation in which a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic on Broad Street is countered, right across the street, by a Care Pregnancy Center that offers alternatives. If the folks at the abortion clinic really put their women patients first, they would encourage them to go across the street first – and explore the alternatives and the loving support available at the Care Pregnancy Center. Then, if they were still intent on the abortion, they could walk back across the street.

Whatever our beliefs in this country, surely we can come together to reduce the demand for abortion.

Isn’t it about time we had that discussion?

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freeradical
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freeradical 01/23/13 - 06:50 am
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Apparently you have not heard

Apparently you have not heard the abortion industrial complex had a

banner year last year.

A record number of child scrafices in the name of a record amount of

almighty government dollars .

Please try and keep up .

Thank Ye .

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/23/13 - 08:45 am
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Apparently some freedoms do

Apparently some freedoms do lead to death. Abortion abolutely equates to death. Gun ownership can equate to death but usually its suicide. Use of alchohol can lead to death (alcohol related deaths are huge). The freedom to drive a car which can lead to death. It's sad people may die from behaviors but we all will die anyways. I love the freedom even when I disagree with the outcome. I'll tolerate alcohol, abortion, gay marriage-just give me my guns and religion. Odd mix but I don't judge the others. You find religions and guns detestable-touche' with the abortion and gay marriage. Freedom has to tolerate that which we find offensive.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 01/23/13 - 08:50 am
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After 50 million abortions in

After 50 million abortions in the US you can't help wonder if one would have had the next great idea, been the next step in our evolution, been a President like Obama. But when Obama was conceived by his unwed mom she didn't have the opportunity to have an abortion (like she likely would have had) because it wasn't legal yet. Food for thought.

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RMSHEFF 01/23/13 - 09:55 am
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Bizkit

I am not sure how you equate abortion to driving a car, but at some point, you would have to say enough is enough. Americans have become desensitized to this form of murder. If a person can "choose" to kill a unborn child, why can they not choose to kill a month old baby ? How about a 2 month old with birth defects or down syndrome? How about a 80 year old who is in poor health? Either you value God given life or you don't. I "choose" life.

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SFCRET85 01/23/13 - 10:51 am
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If men could become pregnant,
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If men could become pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament!

grinder48
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grinder48 01/23/13 - 11:01 am
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Right On Target
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This editorial is right on target

justthefacts
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justthefacts 01/23/13 - 11:39 am
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Meanwhile in NY

"Cuomo is pushing for a massive expansion of access to abortion in the state, including lifting restrictions on third-trimester abortions, allowing non-doctors to perform the procedure, and enshrining a fundamental right to “terminate a pregnancy” in New York state law"

Darby
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Darby 01/23/13 - 12:45 pm
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"If men could become pregnant,....

abortion would be a sacrament!"

Guess I'll have to chalk that one up to personal opinion. After all, last I heard, women can and frequently DO become pregnant and thus far abortion has NOT become a sacrament among the distaff set.

Now it's time for me to get into trouble with my own kind.

I believe we need to consider that abortion is a personal decision. Keep the government out of it completely. It should be between the woman, the baby's father and the woman's God (If she professes faith in God.) It should be a moral issue, discussed in the home or the church but never in public schools or courts. The government is not qualified to solve this quandary. The government attempt to solve it is what brought us to this impasse, and the concurrent waste of billions of unnecessary tax dollars.

The government, federal or state should not be involved in encouraging, discouraging or financially supporting abortion.

Granted, this is all wishful thinking on my part and I know the concept has less chance of happening than the proverbial "snowball in Hell". On the other hand, do you see any chance whatsoever of resolving the the current situation as it has existed for four decades now?

Yes, abortion has become nothing more than a federally financed means of after-the-fact birth control and yes, it's morally reprehensible, but it will never be legislated out of existence. Not even if we conservatives control all three branches of government.

The only possible, realistic, long range solution is to look within ourselves for that spark of humanity that seems to be dying out.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/23/13 - 12:37 pm
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"If men could become
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"If men could become pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament!"

Hogwash. There are women in this world that respect life as well!! Kudos to the men who ALSO respect life over those among us women who put selfish desires above the life of their child.

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burninater 01/23/13 - 12:49 pm
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Nor should pro-choicers

Nor should pro-choicers begrudge the rest of us from declining, in the firmest possible terms, from having pro-lifers’ money fund something we fundamentally believe is taking an innocent life.
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Excellent. Get back to me when I can elect to not have my tax dollars fund military actions, such as Iraq, that have been documented to result in multiple tens of thousands of civilian deaths.

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GiantsAllDay 01/23/13 - 12:55 pm
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One day I was walking past

One day I was walking past the clinic on Broad Street where an anti abortion rally was taking place. One lady, holding a sign, pointed at me and screamed, "when do YOU think life begins?". I said, 40.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 01/23/13 - 12:56 pm
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What percent of those
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What percent of those civilian deaths were intentional? Just curious because if I'm not mistaken the intentional death rate for abortion is 100%......or real close.

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oneofthesane 01/23/13 - 12:57 pm
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Find a solution that stops
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Find a solution that stops girls from being able to get pregnant in the first place when they dont have the means to support a child(ren) and I will listen. I say girls/women because altimately it is up to the women, to be safe, care for her body, and be a responsible person. Until then, nothing in life is perfect, abortion all though horrible and unfathomable to me, should not be kept off the table legally. It should be a person's choice how they live their life.....and even their regret if so be it.

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Fiat_Lux 01/23/13 - 01:10 pm
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"an enlightened citizenship"

is no longer an accurate descriptor for the American public, if it ever really was. What we no longer have, which has resulted in this holocaust, is enlightened and morally well-formed public leaders.

Now we're paying for a bumper crop of morally bankrupt public leaders, for no other reason than the electorate stopped teaching their children right from wrong and got lazy about giving them good moral formation at home. It was a post-WWII phenomenon probably related to our skyrocketing affluence and national prominence, showing up somewhere around the last half of the 50s and starting to alarm during the first half of the 60s.

We kind of stopped having to depend on each other and started buying each other's services on a wide scale, which, IMO, led us to stop valuing each other as people and thinking only of how we can use each other for our own ends.

That tends to cheapen life in general, and vulnerable, non-productive individuals tend to have no value at all. For our current holders of power, there only remains lip service to what many--even many who post opinions on the AC--view as atavistic moral codes derived from fantasy-based religions. It makes it easy to pick and choose who among us have value and who do not. Lip service makes them appear sympathetic to the valueless and easily-deluded, who queue up like lemmings to vote themselves and their valueless children and grandparents off a cliff into oblivion.

Darby
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Darby 01/23/13 - 01:21 pm
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"military actions, such as Iraq, that have been documented....

to result in multiple tens of thousands of civilian deaths."

Not really, particularly when you factor in the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who were dying at the hands of the despot Saddam prior to the invasion. Are you forgetting the mass graves discovered all over Iraq? And they are STILL being found!

Of course you don't want to be bothered with facts though, do you? They can be such pesky little things....

Let's never forget. America is evil. America's military is the most evil thing about us.... There, feel better now?

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faithson 01/23/13 - 01:45 pm
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How can a discussion on

How can a discussion on reducing abortions NOT include a discussion of contraception as a means to that end. I find the whole article lacking any credibility when the FACT of an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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ultrarnr 01/23/13 - 02:17 pm
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How to reduce the demand
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Free birth control led to greatly lower rates of abortions and births to teenagers, a large study concludes, offering strong evidence for how a bitterly contested Obama administration policy could benefit women’s health. The two-year project tracked more than 9,000 women in St. Louis, many of them poor or uninsured, who were given their choice of a range of free contraceptives. These women experienced far fewer unintended pregnancies as a result, reported Dr. Jeffrey Peipert of Washington University in St. Louis in a study published Thursday. There were 6.3 births per 1,000 teenagers in the study, compared with a national rate of 34 births per 1,000 teens in 2010. There also were substantially lower rates of abortion, when compared with women in the metro area and nationally: 4.4 to 7.5 abortions per 1,000 women in the study, compared with 13.4 to 17 abortions per 1,000 women in the St. Louis region, Dr. Peipert calculated. The national rate is almost 20 abortions per 1,000 women. Women’s health specialists said the study foreshadows the potential impact of the new health care law, in which millions of women are beginning to get contraceptives without a co-payment.

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Humble Angela 01/23/13 - 02:41 pm
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Faithson...I agree with you
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Faithson...I agree with you that an [ounce] of prevention is worth a pound of cure.....the problem I have is the total disregard some people have for the life of a child once it IS a child, and consider killing that child that they failed to prevent as a cure.

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Humble Angela 01/23/13 - 02:53 pm
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Darby, it would take one heck
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Darby, it would take one heck of a surge and escalation of force for civilian casualties in Iraq to come anywhere near the civilian casualties in the US due to abortion..........don't ya think?

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harley_52 01/23/13 - 02:57 pm
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I Will Never Understand...

....how a woman who has given permission for a doctor to kill her (unborn) child will ever be able to live with herself.

An unborn child has no advocate. They can't speak for themselves. They can't beg for mercy and ask their mother "what have I done wrong, mommy?"

If nobody else in life can be trusted to "have your back," it's your mother who is supposed to fill that role.

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specsta 01/23/13 - 03:19 pm
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Selfish Pleasure? Really???

ACES wrote - "Babies, in short, pay the ultimate price for a night of selfish pleasure."

Viewpoints like this are part of the problem. Since when did pleasure become "selfish"? Human beings are designed by God to have sexual relations - there is nothing selfish about it. Is it selfish to eat food, stay warm and dry or satisfy your thirst with water?

For some reason, when it comes to human sexual desire, there are brainwashed individuals who think that anything related to sex apart from marriage is wrong. So when a child is conceived out of a natural human function of the body, and if that conception occurs outside of some predefined "moral" boundaries, it must be a selfish act.

Ridiculous.

If people are truly serious about reducing abortion, Puritan attitudes toward human sexuality must cease. We must educate folks, from a young age, about how babies are conceived and how to prevent pregnancies and avoid sexually transmitted diseases. This country has failed miserably in that department, mostly due to religious conservatives who lead and teach with blind eyes.

Parents should be just as comfortable discussing human sexuality with their children, the same as if they were discussing a science project. Because it's all basically science. Once the stigma is removed from discussions about human sexuality, and everyone is able to understand and learn about this integral part of their bodies, there will be fewer teen pregnancies.

For those that would say that our society is saturated with sex already, I would ask, is it really? There may be an aspect of sexuality that is glamorized through the entertainment industry, but in terms of teaching actual FACTS to people, especially teens, to help them make good choices, our society is mostly silent. There are teens right now who do not understand their contraceptive choices or exactly how they could get pregnant. Over 3 million teens contract STDs every year, about 25% of all cases. One in four teen girls are infected with an STD.

This is the result of ignorance, fueled by religious conservatives and others who would prefer that discussions about human sexuality be hidden away. But until we are willing to have frank discussions and move beyond the foolishness of "moral judgements", the reality of abortion is not going away.

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justthefacts 01/23/13 - 04:15 pm
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specsta

One us is seriously out of touch with reality because I disagree completely. IMO, you think we are stuck in the 50s as it relates to openness with our children. I say no way.

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oneofthesane 01/23/13 - 04:54 pm
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It is not society's job to teach our children
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That part is up to "us" as parents. The problem are the 14, 15, 16 year olds or even older and ignorant that do not care about the value of their created life and look to their children as a meal ticket. These are the ones that keep reproducing in large numbers. I personally do not care what is taught on TV/society (we go plenty of days in my house without so much as even putting any TV on at all, we are to drained from working all day etc). After all, it only took two of us to create any lives, why would I depend on society to teach any child right and wrong or facts? Parenting isn't easy when you are doing it right.

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/23/13 - 04:57 pm
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"when do YOU think life begins?". I said, 40.
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Ahhh Geez! Hate to admit, good one! :)

oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/23/13 - 05:08 pm
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"......will ever be able to live with herself"
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I can say that I know more than 2 dozen women who have had an abortion(s) in their lifetime and 0% have no regret. Every single last one of them regrets it......years and years later in life.....even 20 years later....the occasional break down in tears and down-to-the-knees kind of crying. It is a burden I would never be able to personally carry, but nonetheless I do not judge nor believe in reducing options.

Darby
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Darby 01/23/13 - 05:23 pm
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Humble Angela

reference your 01:53 pm

No argument from me... but when you begin to lose touch with that which makes us human, nothing else really matters does it?

Darby
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Darby 01/23/13 - 05:43 pm
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"For some reason, when it comes to human sexual desire,....

there are brainwashed individuals who think that anything related to sex apart from marriage is wrong."

Just wondering who gets to decide who is "brainwashed" and who isn't?

Some folks seem to be trying, in good faith, to set some sort of standard. Others seem to think standards are out of style.

Wondering if Specsta would equate an otherwise reasonably stable couple in a committed relationship having sex, with two brain scrambled kids on meth doing the same thing.

That does seem to be his suggestion when he appears to accept all sexual contact outside of marriage. Just wondering if anyone really has any answers.

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grouse 01/23/13 - 05:49 pm
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Obviously, the editorial
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Obviously, the editorial writers cannot distinguish between a zygote, a fetus, a baby, or a child...

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soapy_725 01/23/13 - 08:03 pm
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Women have always had abortions.
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The issue is government sanctioned and payed for abortions. When has anyone in America been incarcerated for killing their baby? The issue is a Christian Nation passing a law that pays for murder in the name of personal convenience. What a woman or man does with their bodies is between them and whatever god they perceive? Correct? That is what the murders say. What of the father of the unwanted baby? Does he have rights to the fetus? We never talk of that issue. So why do those who do not believe in murder have to pay for murder?
You want to kill your baby, you pay for it. You deal with it. It is your right. Your body. To hell with the body you destroy.

Under America's rules, Jesus Christ would have been aborted. Beethoven would have been aborted. Now we know that Obama would have been a good candidate. But it looks like the evil white grandparents even had respect for human life.

Casey Anthony made history with her late, late term abortion of an unwanted piece of flesh that interfered with her lifestyle. More to come with this case law. Where will it end?

We only wish that all of the Pro Choice advocates had had parents who believed in abortion on demand. Where would the movement get it energy? From dead fetuses? Sucked into a bottle.

How many Pro Choicer's would want to have their brains sucked into a bottle? Stand up and step forward. Show us your zeal.

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Bizkit 01/23/13 - 11:45 pm
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Spec, your 100% wrong on

Spec, your 100% wrong on this. You are being naive. Our kids are saturated with information about sex and risks at our schools and elsewhere. Know all about birth control -you name it. Likely know more than your or I. It isn't ignorance at all. It is the lack of a moral compass ,but at a young age they are developing their morality. They mostly don't care or because of youth don't believe (delusion) it can happen to them. AIDS is starting to explode in the 13-21 group and african-americans are getting hammered. Knowledge, culture, morality, mythology all influence the outcome. It has nothing to do with Puritan ideals -just a fact that having multiple partners is a risky business. I don't make a big deal about marriage because if it isn't a "covenant with God" then it doesn't mean anything anyways. Our youth are naive of the risks of having abortions at a young age as it effects fecundity later in life when you want to have kids and an increased risk of premature birth next pregnancy. The science favors commitment and single partners, using birth control rather than abortion, and abortion should always be something available but little availed. The science says abortions are mostly preventable with access to birth control The science says having abortions at a young age has numerous risks then and later. The science of evolution and reproduction says 50 million human beings (homo sapiens) have died prematurely from abortion-but I don't have a problem with that because that isn't my cross to bear. It's a freedom I tolerate.

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