Rhetoric meets reality

Workers find out more than just the "other guy" is getting taxed

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Yesterday on this page we asked when the country will wake up to the tax-the-other-guy-to-help-the-economy rhetoric coming out of this White House.

We focused on Mr. Obama’s cynical canard that taxing the rich will somehow improve things – as if the federal government and the national economy were the same thing. They’re not.

But there’s also the federal folderol, which much of the country seems to have swallowed, that we can fix what’s wrong by just taxing the “other guy.”

Today comes a hopeful sign that the awakening may have begun.

Columnist Joseph Curl noted Monday in the Washington Times that even some Democrats and Obama voters are waking up – angry – to the reality that their taxes, too, are going up.

They’re starting to realize that the partial holiday on Social Security taxes is ending, and that more money will be withheld from paychecks beginning this month.

And not the paychecks of the wealthiest 1 percent. As Curl notes, the Tax Policy Center estimates more than 77 percent of Americans will pay higher taxes – and another source predicts “80 percent of households with incomes between $50,000 and $200,000 would pay higher taxes.”

“I know to expect between $93 and $94 less in my paycheck on the 15th,” Curl quoted one liberal-website commenter as lamenting. The commenter, ironically enough, named himself “RomneyLies.”

The anonymous commenter might be even angrier if he knew what the increased withholding will do for him, which is nothing. It’s supposed to be for his retirement – but Congress long ago ate through Americans’ retirement seed corn, “borrowing” our retirement monies to fund ongoing operations of the federal government.

If a private company similarly converted your retirement savings to its own uses, the CEO and anyone who helped him with the scheme would be in prison.

Other taxes, fees and insurance premiums will be surprising Americans from the pages of the federal health care reform act.

The “mainstream” media haven’t really laid all this out for you, so it’s going to come as a shock to many.

For them, rhetoric meets reality with the next paycheck.

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ymnbde
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ymnbde 01/08/13 - 07:13 am
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of course,

they're going to say that taxes have just gone back to their proper level, and it's W's fault. But they're taking our real money and giving words that are detached from reality.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 01/08/13 - 07:55 am
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to be able to vote, one

to be able to vote, one should have to have skin in the game..and i am talking icome taxes not social security..imagine a non-investor having a voice and vote in corporate america, well with the non-taxpayers thats exactly what we have...they have no interest in balance budgets, stewardship etcc...just whats in it for me without the worry of paying...its not FAIR!!!!!..WHEN ARE POLITICIANS GOING TO SHOW ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE OF US WHO ACTUALLY PAY THE BILLS.

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Techfan 01/08/13 - 08:15 am
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Great right wing talking point. If it were only true.

I can't decide which is scarier, that the AC continues to use the likes of Curl and The "Moonie" Times, or if they actualy believe the tripe they print. It didn't take much to check it out.

Curl, the Moonies, and the AC try to make it sound like the "anonymous commenter" was clueless about the end of the TEMPORARY payroll tax holiday and was enraged at its reimplementation. Far from it. He was commenting on FICA (which he was well aware was a temporary break) and the management of his company (there were a few expletives regarding them) jacking up insurance rates. They just happened to leave out another part of his comment, "THE FICA CHANGE I'LL BE PROUD TO PAY." Gosh, that changes the whole thing. It's not a clueless lefty ticked when he suddenly found out his payroll taxes were going up, but an aware citizen who realizes taxes are necessary and is proud to pay them. One hundred and eighty degrees off, but nice try. Sorry reality didn't fit the right wing bubble.

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Techfan 01/08/13 - 08:34 am
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"...just whats in it for me"

Like the Farm Bill, a lower tax rate for people sitting on their rear ends getting dividends than for people who work for a living, WalMart paying their worker such a low wage and keeping them all part time so they qualify for food stamps while sucking up $37 million federal tax dollars for widening and extending the road to their headquarters (just a dab of the tax dollars Wally World takes), let corporations scoop up natural resources on federal lands at bargain basement prices, trying to change laws so people can use taxpayer dollars for private schools? It's only $100 billion or so a year in federal corporate welfare plus billions spent on private contractors in Iraq and elsewhere. Yep, lots of "just whats in it for me".

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Humble Angela 01/08/13 - 08:50 am
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The wealth envy crowd, as

The wealth envy crowd, as indicated by the above post frequently refer to those who actually take risk with their money as " sitting on their rear ends getting dividends." While those who sit on their rear ends and live off the taxes of others are somehow the noble ones. Liberal "logic" boggles the mind.

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Jane18 01/08/13 - 10:48 am
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Be Careful Casting Those Stones

"Some" people should not blast one of their big contributors to the Democrat party, it doesn't look good. Oh yeah, that same contributor(Walmart) has given big $$$$$$$ toward "your man's" inauguration!

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soapy_725 01/08/13 - 11:16 am
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Not fact AC......

Unpublished

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Riverman1 01/08/13 - 11:23 am
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Carrying Things to the Conclusion

Heck, I think the Detroit woman had it right. If your city voted for Obama your bills should be paid for you. Richmond Cty should remind the feds they voted Democratic. That brings up an interesting point, those cities that support Democrats are usually in financial trouble. So any county or union that supports Democrats should be taken care of. Any union or non-union workers who didn't support Obama should be forced to pay the benefits of the Democratic Party supporting union workers and those counties across the country that support Democrats. Let's just carry things out to their logical conclusion. You would have former Republican Counties swearing up and down they are true Democrats. There would be a contest to see who could out Democrat whom and get more money.

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soapy_725 01/08/13 - 11:30 am
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soapy_725 01/08/13 - 11:34 am
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oneofthesane
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 11:58 am
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 12:02 pm
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 12:04 pm
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 12:12 pm
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 12:20 pm
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itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 01/08/13 - 01:24 pm
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OOTS

You took the point right out of my mouth about Walmart workers. They will pay the minimum required to retain employees; just like any other for profit business. Why would they pay $12/hr to push carts from the parking lot when someone is willing to do it for $8? That is just stupid on its face!
You want better pay? Get some training/education in a field that pays more. Pretty simple supply and demand equation I'd say.

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ymnbde 01/08/13 - 01:48 pm
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the (un)intended consequence

is that in years past i have donated money to the United Way and a few other charities. I donated every month. This year, i'm deducting the extra taxes obama takes from me from my donations...i'm sure this will be a necessary and common thing for lots of workers. It will hurt people who work for tips, too. People like the techfan above ("an aware citizen who realizes taxes are necessary") are too cognitively challenged to realize that there is a limit as to what government can waste. They have reached it with me.

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allhans 01/08/13 - 01:51 pm
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Three new appointees to the

Three new appointees to the Obama cabinet and all of them old, rich and white men. He WON, so the others are found to be unnecessary?

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dichotomy 01/08/13 - 02:17 pm
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"(there were a few expletives

"(there were a few expletives regarding them) jacking up insurance rates."

Hey, why curse their employer when Obamacare is the cause of the insurance rate increases.

"so people can use taxpayer dollars for private schools"

Did you mean to say so the people who paid ALL of those federal taxes can use some of THEIR money to send their kids to a functioning school of their choice.

And I guess Walmart ought to get a little something for all of the bribes they paid to the Democrat Party and the Obama re-elction campaign and coronation....err.....inauguration .

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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 03:07 pm
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oneofthesane 01/08/13 - 04:13 pm
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RMSHEFF 01/08/13 - 04:35 pm
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The "evil" corporations

Raise taxes on evil corporations like Walmart and big oil ! There are so many low information (at least 51%) voters that don't understand free markets and macroeconomics. They are being told by democrats and progressive liberals that raising taxes on others will benefit them. If these people only realized that the "final consumer" pays " all " taxes. Corporations collect taxes and pass it on in the price of there product or service. If you raise taxes on the evil corporations the people in the middle and lower income levels get hurt the most both in higher prices and fewer jobs.

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carcraft 01/08/13 - 08:26 pm
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Tech fan complains about $100

Tech fan complains about $100 billion in corperate welfare but swallows the $1 TRILLION spent on every other type of welfare in the US with out difficulty. Sorry I think the $1 trillion trumps the $100 billion! At least most corperations pay some taxes unless you are one of Obama's green energy companies that went broke!

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