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A recent letter to the editor on this page questioned whether prayer works.

The writer took a particular mass prayer event, looked at whether it had changed things – decided it had not – and concluded from that that prayer must not work.

We beg to differ.

The majesty of such things is in their mystery, of course. Your belief about whether prayer works or not is just that – your belief. We are separated enough from cause and effect, and the way of the world is shrouded in enough uncertainty, that our knowledge is beautifully limited.

We take it as an article of faith that prayer makes a difference. And we’ve seen enough anecdotal evidence to confirm that faith. Experiments also have shown that prayer could have a beneficial effect on medical patients.

But even if you doubt the power of prayer, we submit it’s folly to dismiss the possibility so lightly.

For one thing, how does the letter writer know that the prayer in question didn’t change anything? That’s beyond our ability to know.

It’s also quite likely that if the prayer did nothing else, it changed those who were doing the praying. It probably made them more mindful of spiritual aspects of our lives. If prayer did nothing else, it would in many cases change the pray-er.

For another thing, since when is there a deadline on God to answer a prayer? Time seems so pressing to us in the material world, since it appears so fleeting. God has no such constraints. He literally has forever. We are like children in our comprehension of the difference.

In addition, the letter writer assumes that the prayers of the group in question were in line with God’s will. Doesn’t that assume a lot?

Maybe God has other plans.

The letter writer referenced an Aug. 6, 2011, “day of fasting and

prayer for our nation’s challenges” in Houston, Texas – which the writer thinks has done no good.

First, how would he know? Second, when was the deadline on the results? And who decided that?

Lastly, how do we know that fixing America’s many problems is on God’s list?

We spout “God bless America” in this country as if it’s a done deal, or a command – rather than a prayer. What if God isn’t convinced? What if we haven’t done our fair share to get ourselves out of the mess we’ve created? What if we continue to do things that are wholly contrary to God’s will? Should God put a blessing on that?

Before questioning the Almighty for not responding quickly or obviously enough to suit our tastes, perhaps we should look in the mirror first and wonder how worthy we are of such service.

In the meantime, it’s not for us to say when and how prayers should be answered. Nor is it our place to demand evidence of it.

We are free, however, to believe as we wish.

For what it’s worth, we believe.

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Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 12/16/12 - 07:23 am
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We spout "God bless

We spout "God bless America"........

Finally, in the full context of what he stated, you agree with Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 12/16/12 - 07:39 am
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Prayer

As I studied and meditated on the Sunday School lesson for today I was reminded of the responsibility of believers to not only talk about their belief but to live as an example so that non-believers might be "convicted." We should all ask ourselves the question if what I write and speak are representative of my faith (whether Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc.). When I am honest I have to admit that I fall short, but God has given me another day. I shall do better today.

Happy Sunday to all; be blessed in your worship today.
Join me in praying for peace and healing of this nation, especially the families of Sandy Hook School district.

myfather15
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myfather15 12/16/12 - 11:43 am
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Please take the time to

Please take the time to actually read Deuteronomy Chapter 28. Yes, God said if we love and diligently obey Him, we shall be blessed beyond imagination. But He also said that if we don't and won't listen to Him, we shall be cursed, in many many ways.

This Country became the most powerful Country in the entire world, in less than 250 years. Some of the Countries in existence have been here for thousands of years, yet they aren't the most advanced Country in the world. Matter of fact, most are third world Countries, while America remains the most advanced Country in the world in most categories.

So, did this happen by coincidence? I think not. This happened because this Country WAS founded on Judeo-Christian philosophy and laws. We once respected God as a WHOLE, even the government, which did have open prayer from a very long time. God blessed this Country and watched out for her for a long time. God even commanded us that we shall LEND but shall not BORROW. When we listened to this, we financially flurished.

But, in much of the last century we have left God, more and more behind. We are getting farther and farther away from his advice and orders and we are paying the price. Those who don't believe, of course will deny this, but they can't deny that we are worse off now than in times past. We hear our politicians saying the playing field needs to be leveled and Countries need to be equal. Even President Obama doesn't believe in American Exceptionalism. He wants a one world system, where every Country is equal. America is God's way, period!! This Country was purposely place here so the world could see exactly how God wants things done. Why do so many people, from all over the world, flee to this Country for a better life?

Just the other day, I was at Savannah Rapids pavilion and witnessed probably 6 or 7 different type of ethnic people. This Country is made of of all kinds of people, from all over the world that seek freedom and want a better life. Well, that better life is provided by God and we better get back to giving Him the credit, love and respect He sooooo deserves.

grouse
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grouse 12/16/12 - 12:23 pm
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If's God's plan includes
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If's God's plan includes killing innocent children, then God is a jerk.

grouse
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grouse 12/16/12 - 12:26 pm
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If praying for health worked,
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If praying for health worked, the hospitals would be empty. The "research" has been discounted.

pearlthesquirrel
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pearlthesquirrel 12/16/12 - 01:03 pm
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As usual...
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Treaty of Tripoli 1797 (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) ....perhaps myfather15 would like to read that and get his "facts" straight....maybe, you think, perhaps....but I doubt it.

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belle 12/16/12 - 01:53 pm
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Firstly, I must respond to Grouse...God gave us a perfect world. He gave us the Garden of Eden, truly the land of "no worries mon". We basically told Him to stick it. Despite our lack of gratitude, God continues to bless us with the ability to get through tragedies with a strengthened heart and renewed appreciation of the Grace He has gifted us. That is the answer to all prayer.

To the staff member who wrote this article, the Chronicle recently asked for prayer submissions and stated they would print the best...who gets to decide which ones are the best? If you have submissions from an Ivy League Literary Graduate asking for World Peace does that outrank one written by a somewhat illiterate little old lady asking for prayers for her cat (the cat she is sharing the can of food with)? That cat IS her world. Who is capable of judging this?

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Bizkit 12/16/12 - 02:06 pm
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Isn't that like saying if

Isn't that like saying if medicine and physicians actually "cured" people there wouldn't be hospitals or if psychiatry worked there wouldn't be any mental illness? I guess next if will be if there are no guns there will be no murders or wars. Hmmmmmm.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 12/16/12 - 03:55 pm
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"If praying for health

"If praying for health worked, the hospitals would be empty. The "research" has been discounted." (grouse)

It appears the researcher only viewed a portion of the facts. "If praying for health worked"....worked? as in healed? Who said God always has to say yes to the healing? Could it be that he heals the heart before he heals the body? Could it be the unhealing of the body is for a higher purpose.

You see the answer to pray isn't always what we think we want but what He knows is best for us.

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KSL 12/16/12 - 08:04 pm
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What the heck's business is it

If some people want to believe in prayer?

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/17/12 - 10:05 pm
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10-4 KSL. It is MY business

10-4 KSL. It is MY business and mine alone how I conduct my spiritual life.

KasparHauser
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KasparHauser 12/18/12 - 09:03 am
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"Who said God always has to
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"Who said God always has to say yes to the healing? "

When has this YHWH ever made an amputated limb grow back? Not reattached or any such blue-smoke-and-mirrors drivel. Actually made and amputated limb grow back?

After all the millions of amputees who have asked to get their limb(s) back over the last few decades, and all the members in their family/friends/congregation, where is even one reliable instance?

You'd think all those amphibians and other animals that can regenerate limbs would have just been YHWH practicing prior to including this feature in the Homo Sapiens option package.

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/god5.htm

These continual claims of miracles from prayer remind me of a scene in a Two Pints of Lager episode where one character claims to be psychic:

"Gaz: She is pyschic, Louise just predict next week’s lottery numbers or something.

Jonny: Yeah best you can.

Louise: Ahh, you see that is one thing us psychics cannot do.

Janet: Oh yeah why’s that then?

Louise: Because it’s like 14 million to one odds, christ are you thick or something?!"

BINGO!

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 12/18/12 - 12:39 pm
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When one person suffers from

When one person suffers from a delusion it's called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it's called religion ~Robert Pirsig

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 12/18/12 - 12:58 pm
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Respecting god and prayer in

Respecting god and prayer in the schools made the US the most prosperous country in the world?? See my delusion comment above. It still amazes the loads of horse hockey that gets passed around at church. Maybe I can offer a little assistance: the man reason was--NATURAL RESOURCES. I'll even say it again--NATURAL RESOURCES. Some people would be well served to revisit the history texts used by even the most remedial students. Oh ya, and here's another tidbit for you (it's the holiday season and I'm in a generous mood). By exploiting the less fortunate. We took land from the Indians and Mexico that didn't belong to us and worked the poor and minorities into the ground for little or no pay. Please revisit Manifest Destintiy. PS: grouse, I think you lead the league in thumbs down. You must be doing something right.

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