Same dance, different music

More radicalized Arab world places Israel in greater peril

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The two Koreas have technically been at war since the 1950s. But they’ve been more peaceful than the Mideast since then.

The reason is simple: Israel’s neighbors have never really accepted its existence and have been in a war against it, hot and cold, since 1948.

Harriet Lerner once wrote a book about troubled relationships called The Dance of Anger. Well, she could’ve been writing about the Mideast. The two-step that Israel’s enemies engage in is: 1) fight a freelance guerilla war against Israel, with terrorism and rockets fired on Israeli cities from within Palestinian (and now Egyptian) population centers; 2) show the world, or fake for the world, the collateral damage that occurs when Israel defends itself.

From the Palestinian Playbook: Photos of dead or wounded children work best, so produce them when you can – and manufacture them when you must.

Then, belatedly, the United Nations tries to cut in – wailing for a cease fire, now that it’s not just Israelis being targeted.

Another fine job of seeking peace, U.N. Wait until the shooting has started and call for a cease-fire.

That’s not how peace is created. It’s how wars are allowed to simmer for decades. You allow hatred to fester – without stepping in to condemn or counteract it. Then, after the unrelenting hostilities of one group finally goads another into defending itself, you finally say something.

If you’re at all muddled on the nature of this chronic conflict, ask yourself two questions: 1) When was the last time a free country was attacked by an Israeli terrorist? 2) How long would the United States wait before taking action to stop rockets from being fired at homes and businesses and schools and churches in this country from a neighboring land?

We pray for the people of Gaza. But they have allowed some in their midst to create a war zone. The hate and murderous hostilities that have been sowed for years are sadly being reaped yet again.

Hamas, the terrorist organization that rules the Gaza Strip, is leading its people into an endless desert of despair and enmity. There is no good place you can go when your first step is toward malice and loathing. Palestinian indoctrination of their young into a lifestyle of hatred is the stuff of legend.

In contrast, the democratic nation of Israel is more than 20 percent Arab.

In short, one side in this conflict has shown a willingness to coexist. The other has done the exact opposite.

This dance has gone on a long time, but the music seems ominously different now. With increasingly radicalized and less predictable Arab governments and an American administration that appears oddly ambivalent to Israel’s fate – as well as to Iran’s pursuit of a nuclear weapons – our Jewish ally’s future seems as precarious as ever in its history.

We were impressed and uplifted by President Obama’s trip this week to Myanmar (the former Burma), and his eloquent advocacy on behalf of democracy. We hope he will do the same in Israel someday, which he has yet to visit.

During an official visit to Gaza by the Egyptian prime minister, Israel observed a cease-fire. Do you suppose its enemies would extend the same decency to our president?

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dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 05:33 pm
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@rebellious: I always
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@rebellious: I always appreciate a good exchange of views, facts and, not-so-facts.

Jesus descendency has no bearing on the Israeli-Palestine war; the Zionist idea that they are "owed" a homeland; nor the idea of Jews being "god's chosen people."

If they are the "chosen people", then the rest of us are of less importance.

Are YOU of less importance than someone of Jewish faith?
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Nor does Hammas, contrary to the "intentional" "lie" in this editorial, "rule Gaza."

burninater
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burninater 11/21/12 - 05:36 pm
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I'm still reveling in the

I'm still reveling in the delicious irony of a Christian calling an old endtimes prophecy "nonsense". No no no, it's the one with the flaming sword and the slouching beast and the devil mark! THAT'S the sensical one!

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Riverman1 11/21/12 - 05:44 pm
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Dahreese, I'm certainly glad

Dahreese, I'm certainly glad we have such a knowledgeable person with us today. I'm trying to figure out Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam in America, explanation of the great wheel hovering over the earth, the Islamic space ship of death. Can you help me with that?

burninater
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burninater 11/21/12 - 05:58 pm
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RM, my understanding is that

RM, my understanding is that Farrakhan was jealous of Pat Robertson's gay sin hurricane machine and felt pressured to come up with his own magic doomsday device. All reports are that like the gay sin hurricane machine, the death wheel is powered by three magic beans and a pound of righteous indignation.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 11/21/12 - 06:05 pm
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Burn, I'm going to have to do

Burn, I'm going to have to do some thinking to top that one. Ha. But that superstorm was centered on Fire Island. Farrakhan and Robertson aimed it?

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 11/21/12 - 06:08 pm
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Techfan

It sounds like you hate Israel almost as much as you hate America. Never mind the Biblical reason for us to support them because I know you want understand that angle but they supply us with most of our intelligence information in the middle east. They are the only true democracy in the region. Our values are very much the same unlike all of the countries that surround them. We can and do count on their support when we need it. They are a "shining city on a hill" in an area of the world that does not value human rights. They are a shining economic example in a area of the world that has only know great poverty. They display all of the benefits of a free country in an area that knows nothing of freedom. This is one reason why all of there neighbors and liberals in this country hate Israel so much. Hey, these are the same reason liberal hate America......

dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 06:13 pm
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@Riverman 1; "I'm trying to
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@Riverman 1; "I'm trying to figure out Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam in America, explanation of the great wheel hovering over the earth, the Islamic space ship of death. Can you help me with that?"

Before Farrakhan saw the wheele, "Ezekiel saw de wheel, way up in de middle ob de air."

Same wheel?

Folks like you are interesting; christianity, islam and judahism all come from the same "source" yet the fundamentalist in each one claim "my religion is the right one and everybody else is wrong."

And if you want to get really ridiculous about it, perhaps those "chariots of fire" sent to protect
Elisha (II Kings; 6:17) were really space ships.

"It's in the book!"

Riverman1
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Riverman1 11/21/12 - 06:19 pm
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Dahreese, at least our weird

Dahreese, at least our weird stuff happened thousands of years ago. Y'all's weird stuff happened just a few years ago with Farrakhan and other Muslims saying they went up in the thing.

dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 06:38 pm
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Same "stuff."
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Same "stuff."

What comes out of the mouths of too many "christian" ministers is no better than that which comes out of the mouths of "radical" jews and a "radical" ayatollah khomeini.

rmwhitley
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rmwhitley 11/21/12 - 06:27 pm
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Sounds like the
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same ploys the democratic party utilizes.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/21/12 - 06:55 pm
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Oh, dadgummit, those pesky

Oh, dadgummit, those pesky Israeli's and Palestinians have gone and signed another cease fire. Doggonit, there goes the Apocalypse that some of our less than stable prognosticators were hoping to see happen and blame on President Obama.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 11/21/12 - 06:56 pm
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dareese

I'm with you on radical religious mouthpieces of all stripes. I hope to live long enough to see socks in their mouths.

dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 07:15 pm
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@Retired Army: After WW II,
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@Retired Army: After WW II, the fundamentalist ministers of that time were also preaching "I've studied the bible! And all the signs are right! The great bear (Russia, I suppose) is coming out of the north and Jesus may come at any minute!"

Any number of copy cats today and gullible followers (some evident on here).

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 11/21/12 - 08:18 pm
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If Jesus Comes...

RA and all the other libs left here will have the wealth of us that are raptured to fight over ! Then they can redistribute our wealth without any resistance.

RMSHEFF
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RMSHEFF 11/21/12 - 08:23 pm
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RA

Do you think the cease fire will last more than 48 hours ? Maybe Hillary said "pretty please" to Hamas. That sums up Obama's foreign policy. Just be nice and they won't kill us !

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/21/12 - 08:31 pm
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Religious Debate

You know me....No Comments.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/21/12 - 08:48 pm
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RMSHEFF11/21/12 - 05:08 pm

RMSHEFF writes: "They are a "shining city on a hill" in an area of the world that does not value human rights. They are a shining economic example in a area of the world that has only know great poverty. They display all of the benefits of a free country in an area that knows nothing of freedom. This is one reason why all of there neighbors and liberals in this country hate Israel so much. Hey, these are the same reason liberal hate America......"

Uuummmm they also have free national health care, compulsory national service for both sexes and gays and very little fresh water. 3 outta 4 ain't bad.

dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 09:01 pm
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@Retired Army; Wonder if any
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@Retired Army; Wonder if any of the Israel supporters on here can give an intelligent, informed answer as to why they support Israel?

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/21/12 - 09:14 pm
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@Retired Army; Wonder if any

@Retired Army; Wonder if any of the Israel supporters on here can give an intelligent, informed answer as to why they support Israel?

Just that Israel's existance is necessary for the Apocalypse and the slaughter of millions of non-believers, even the innocent. Pretty rational, eh?

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faithson 11/21/12 - 09:40 pm
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chosen people....

the jewish religion is a 'racial' religion, unlike many if not all of the Christian religions, mormans being a throwback. As such, upon the rejection of the Master, they relinquished their status and have lost their temple, to be 'wanderers' without a homeland. The artificial granting of land was in response to the horrific treatment they received at the hands of misguided supposedly Christians. The 'flame' has been passed on, and if this generation of Christians cannot learn and live the teachings given, they too will be rendered to the pages of history and another will be chosen to propagate the message of the Master and Creator.

dahreese
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dahreese 11/21/12 - 10:42 pm
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@faithson; Jews are not a
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@faithson; Jews are not a race. They can be found in most cultures around the globe. For example, German jews, Polish jews, Israeli jews, American jews, African jews.

The idea that they are a "chosen people" is an idea they put on themselves. The "old testament" is a mixed history of early jewish culture and myths.

As to the "granting of the land", that land belonged to the Palestinians and no one asked the Palestinians how they felt about being replaced on their own land by intruders.

They have every right and reason to be angry.

faithson
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faithson 11/21/12 - 10:46 pm
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D

The passing of the title 'Hebrew' is through the mother, period. Converts are not considered true 'hebrews' until the next generation, kinda like cradle catholics. When your religion comes via DNA, I would infer a 'racial' element. You really don't see many blonde blue eyed jews do you now...

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Bizkit 11/21/12 - 10:54 pm
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The three patriarchs

The three patriarchs originally dominated the area of Israel, then the Assyrian, Persians, Romans, the muslims finally for about 1300 years till zionism in the 19th century and jews starting moving back to the area. Then the UN established Israel the only jewish state-unlike numerous muslim states. They have as bout as much right as the muslims to the land. A two state solution seems reasonable.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/21/12 - 10:57 pm
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Actually there are plenty of

Actually there are plenty of blonde blue-eyed jews-as about as much as the general population. That's pretty discriminatory.

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allhans 11/21/12 - 11:00 pm
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Well, good gracious. As if

Well, good gracious. As if we didn't know that those of the Jewish faith don't believe in intergrating with others (of any stripe). I have family who are Jews and I don't mind at all that they want to keep their race pure. That is their choice..you know, the liberal "right to choose"?

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fedex227 11/21/12 - 11:37 pm
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As far as the editorial goes, I agree with Shrimp ...

I was actually learning things I didn't know before; following a stream of thought that was coherent and persuasive in it's argument, rapt in a cogent presentation of facts based on the history of the region, and then Bam!! Obama slam. Couldn't help yourselves, could you ACES.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 11/22/12 - 10:10 am
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Kill the messenger

Was the critique of Obama true or not?

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