The Hope of Audacity

Obama administration may see a mandate to keep stonewalling

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Voters didn’t just opt for gridlock in Washington last Tuesday, sending many of the same players back to continue battle.

They also approved of stonewalling.

In returning President Obama to office, voters sent a message that they don’t care about the Benghazi scandal in which four Americans died after the Obama administration failed utterly to either protect them in advance or come to their aid during the seven-hour assault on our Libyan embassy.

Then, in the weeks following the attacks – carried out conspicuously on Sept. 11 – the administration put forth a bogus cover story: that the murderous assault that killed our ambassador and three others was an outgrowth of a citizen protest in Benghazi over an anti-Muhammad video on the Internet.

The truth, as we now know and the administration has had to confess, is that there was never any protest to begin with – and that the administration knew very quickly that it was, in fact, a premeditated, al-Qaida-style attack.

Why the lies? Who issued the orders for top administration officials to lie through their teeth about the nature of the assault? Why the lax security? Why did the administration refuse repeated requests for security at the embassy? Why didn’t the administration move quickly to respond to the assault and perhaps save our people?

Some of us wanted to get to the bottom of these matters before the election. But with the help of an oddly indifferent news media, the Obama administration managed to kick the can past the election.

Now, emboldened by the voters’ stamp of approval on stonewalling, it appears the administration will be just as
brazen if not more so in its attempts to sweep the Benghazi scandal under the rug: Due to his sex scandal – which was months in the making but which conveniently broke just days after the election and before the hearing – former CIA director David Petraeus was declared unavailable to testify at a congressional inquiry into Benghazi this week. And Secretary of State Hillary Clinton – whose agency failed to protect our people in Libya and who, herself, was a major perpetrator of the “protest” hoax – has been said, conveniently enough, to be traveling.

As if the deaths of four people under her care aren’t important enough to change her travel plans.

Did administration officials think they could just make stuff up about a protest over a video – while seeing to it that the video’s producer was imprisoned – and that they’d never be found out?

Or did they just figure the American people wouldn’t care about being lied to in such a baldfaced way?

On that latter count, they may have figured correctly.

Call it the Hope of Audacity.

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dahreese
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dahreese 11/13/12 - 11:28 am
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"Just one simple
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"Just one simple question...without diverting the topic. Why does the coverup about the murder of American Citizens not seem to matter to liberals?"

That's a liberal question....

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 11:35 am
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huh?
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huh?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/13/12 - 12:31 pm
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Progressive don't have a

Progressive don't have a logical compass. They believe all terrorist deserve due process and full protection under the law, yet have no problme with the assassination of an American citizen without due process. Then the logic of no patchwork of immigration laws but turn a blind eye to the states legalizing pot even after the SCOTUS has already ruled against such-the states should lose all federal funding. They only want freedom for specific groups but would love to eliminate people of faith or conservative ideology because they believe the world would be better off if we eliminated them from the gene pool- ethnic cleansing of WASP. hee,hee,hee. Seems I remember a progressive callin' for a civil war on this forum. I forsee violence against the wealthy because of the success of demonizing this group that did nothing but play the game, fair and square on the most part, and had some success. It is unAmerican. If you believe just taxing the wealthy will solve or even begin to address our problems you are totally brainwashed-it is no more than a political ploy playing on humans baser needs and qualities.

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myfather15 11/13/12 - 12:31 pm
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@Humble Angela

They don't care because absolutely ANYTHING is fair game in the liberal quest to turn this Country left. That's why you see them all on here claiming there is nothing to the Benghazi "scandal". That it's just a made up controversy by the right. They know darn well something isn't right in this situation, but they don't care. The ends are more important than the means. So what that four people lost their lives, thats an easy sacrifice for what they want to accomplish. Those that are committed to the hard left line, you will never change their minds. They actually do believe that whatever it takes to move this Country further left and away from old traditions, it's worth it. Obama actually IS their messiah or at least the one who usher's in their messiah and they will NEVER say a harsh word towards him, no matter the evidence against him. They will always defend his actions and downplay any controversy he may get involved in.

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DanK 11/13/12 - 12:42 pm
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ACES just doesn't seem to get

ACES just doesn't seem to get it. The presidential election was not about incidents. It was about issues. The fact is, the majority of Americans agree with the Democrats on social issues, on taxes and on trust. Those were the pivotal issues that re-elected Mr. Obama. The real audacity is continuing to believe that Republicans and their ideology are the chosen ones who will lead us all to salvation. Most of the country just doesn't see it that way.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 01:11 pm
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DanK....if I LOVED the way a
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DanK....if I LOVED the way a candidate stands on issues, but found out that the candidate also thinks it's ok to kill American citizens without due process, and lie to the people in order to win elections, he would lose my vote.

myfather15
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myfather15 11/13/12 - 01:42 pm
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This administration and many

This administration and many before this one, DO believe they can make up any story they want and get away with it. Why? Because they realize the majority of American's are unengaged in what's going on in this Country and the world.

In a Country of 320 Million people, only approximately 110 million votes were cast. I can now see why God says he can't stand those who are neither hot, nor cold. Meaning those who are in the middle and won't choose a side and don't get involved. At least you can somewhat respect the commitment the left has for their cause and the effort they put into it. People in the middle have no commitment for anything, and God doesn't like it. Revelations 3:14 God is talking to the Church of Laodiceans, and saying they are neither hot nor cold and he would rather them be hot or cold. Therefore if they won't choose a side, He will spew them out of His mouth.

I said on another thread that people are just too darn busy with their lives to get involved heavily in politics. Well, that's very true, but they won't be held unaccountable for their lack of involvement. By not voting, you are voting. By remaining silent, you are speaking loudly, it just may not be for the side you would actually speak for. If you don't stand up for your beliefs, then you are actually standing for those who believe opposite than you. Just like with the hard line leftists saying this Country is going more and more left. Well, thats true but I don't think it's because the majority of people are going left, the majority are just not engaged.

"When men become unengaged, is when tyrants slip in."

"Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants."

"Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you."

"When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

Just a few quotes from the "Tired old white guys" called the Founding Fathers.

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Gary Ross 11/13/12 - 01:58 pm
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What are we going to do?

And the question still stands, 2 months later... What are we going to do about the terrorists who murdered 4 Americans? We're squabbling amonst ourselves while the real hands-on criminals walk free?

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nofanofobama 11/13/12 - 02:13 pm
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4 dead in lybia and not one

4 dead in lybia and not one lib seems to care... im 58 and back in the late sixties it was RIGHT to question the govt..now the radicals who question the govt back then are embedded in the very institutions they questioned...with one difference no longer do they believe in questioning govt..sad sad..our forefathers gave us the free press to persue these questions and hold those in power accountable...now most dont care on the left anymore ..sad day ....sad day

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dichotomy 11/13/12 - 02:32 pm
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In the 70's the liberals

In the 70's the liberals brought down a president over a piddly break in at a political office and an unpopular war. Now we've got an unpopular war, a coverup of a murdered ambassador and 3 others, a coverup of gun running, and the director of the CIA boinking some bimbo who is jealous of some Lebanese Arab chick in FL who all of our generals at CENTCOM HQ are hob nobbing with.

Yep, no problems there. Everything is hunky dory. Take a couple of free birth control pills and chill. FORWARD

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 03:15 pm
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I'll ask again, and see if
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I'll ask again, and see if any of the liberals answer. Why does the coverup about the murder of American Citizens not seem to matter to liberals?

Further, why does the excecution of American citizens without due process not seem to matter either?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 03:29 pm
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dahreese, that has got to be
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dahreese, that has got to be the biggest case of comparing apples to oranges I have ever seen in my life. You are comparing santions that are put on a government, which THAT government in turn, punishes it's own citizens, with OUR PRESIDENT ordering a US citizen to be killed because he has determined that the guy is guilty. HUGE difference. You don't have to be a blind liberal not to see that, just an willfully uninformend to deny it.

And just for the record, MANY people have had their post removed for calling other posters "ignorant." I'm not reporting you, but if Sean is diligent and fair, your post is likely to be pulled.

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faithson 11/13/12 - 03:58 pm
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caught ole rush on my way to the office

well, u gotta love it when ole rush's talking points are in line with this editorial, faux and many of the bloggers here. This consistent line of attack against our President and the party that supported him reminds me of the cyborg's that Captain Pecard had such a hard time with. This 'mind meld' of attack is disconcerting in that it reeks of mindless acquiescence to bombastic personalities who 'think' just because they 'say' it, there must be some truth to it. Ole rush is on a new track where the generals were silenced at the behest of our President to make the cover-up work even better, oh the stretch in belief that must be made to find so many faults on so many issues.

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faithson 11/13/12 - 04:13 pm
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Shame on you, Mr. Ryan

Calling the President of the United States an out and out liar, based upon conjecture of events is journalistic hypocracy. To question is one thing, to indite is quite another. Your prejudicial journalism reeks of old eastern block, feed the people the state line to keep them inline. I find this editorial board in contempt of good unbiased journalism, the fifth rail that has kept America and Americans informed. It is said we are living through a crisis in 'thinking', this editorial is a prime example of that crisis.

faithson
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faithson 11/13/12 - 04:18 pm
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ms. humble

still waiting on the retraction of the 108% from yesterday ! a simple, I got it wrong will do.

dahreese
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dahreese 11/13/12 - 04:22 pm
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@Humble Angela; I'm really
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@Humble Angela; I'm really worried that my posts will be pulled. In fact, go read my comments on yesterday's editorial about charter schools.

Given its poor quality of editorials, this paper must be run by the tea party.

As to "innocents" being killed, on 9/11 nearly 3000 innocent Americans were killed by terrorists flying planes into the twin towers in New York.

Would it make any difference to you if on that day those who died didd so by terrorists using starvation?

I don't think so.

Nor does it make any difference to those in other countries who die by whatever methods we use to kill them.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 05:05 pm
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 04:25 pm
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"Calling the President of the
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"Calling the President of the United States an out and out liar, based upon conjecture of events is journalistic hypocracy."

How about calling him a liar based on FACTS. How many bills have you seen posted on the internet for review before signing? Is GITMO closed? Are there lobbyists on his cabinet?

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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 04:29 pm
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The 3:22 post is SO apples
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The 3:22 post is SO apples and oranges. Again you equate THE PRESIDENT OF THE US ordering the MURDER of one of the citizens he swore to defend, with no due process, with sanctions on a government. I can't argue with you if your logic is that far out of wack.

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Retired Army 11/13/12 - 04:47 pm
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Bizkit11/13/12 - 11:31 am

Bizkit writes: "Progressive don't have a logical compass. They believe all terrorist deserve due process and full protection under the law,"

Yeah? just like the "due process" our President has been giving nests of terrorists via drone strikes the last 4 years? Or was it the "due process" that Osama bin Laden got that so upsets you about our Progressive President?

Osama bin Laden's death by order of our President seems like good progress to me.

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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 04:46 pm
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RA....the problem I have is
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RA....the problem I have is when he denies due process to his own citizens....the citizens he took an oath to defend. Do you have no problem with that?

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Fiat_Lux 11/13/12 - 04:54 pm
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Obummer is our punishment

Because the reality is that the culture drives politics rather than the other way around. Obummer is nothing but the horrifying expression of decades of our tolerating and then celebrating greed, immorality and the destruction of the family as the fundamental social unit of our culture.

What did we think was going to happen when all those illegitimate babies grew up and didn't like their label? Or when bizarre socialists and earth worshipers took over the formation of our children from infancy because their parents needed someone--anyone-- to babysit their kids while they went off to work to earn "the good life"?

We wouldn't have Obummer if today's adults had come from homes, rich or poor, with both their parents there and married to each other, and whose moms had been at home at least for their pre-school years.

We stopped passing on our cultural values as well as our religious faiths, and look what America is like today because of it. The only people we don't disgust as a nation are those who are even worse than we are, and a large number of them look on in disbelief that we have allowed such awful, socially stunted, morally clueless people to take control of our government, our national culture and image, and our future.

Not politics, comrades, but hearts and minds. That's where the battle is.

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Retired Army 11/13/12 - 04:57 pm
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The Fat Lady Sings

http://www.youtube.com/embed/vcmfCXwAFs4

Lighten up on day 7 of America's newest and greatest chapter. It's a little cloudy out today, but the sky's still in place.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/13/12 - 05:03 pm
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The sky is still in place,
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The sky is still in place, unemployment is still at historic highs, more people are on food stamps than in any time in history, national debt is at an all time high, etc etc.....but the sky is still there.

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dahreese 11/13/12 - 05:25 pm
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@Humble Angela; Dear heart;
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@Humble Angela; Dear heart; you still have not comprehended the differences between my first two posts.

And this; "the problem I have is when he denies due process to his own citizens....the citizens he took an oath to defend."

Jose Padilla, is a terrorist, but he is also an American who has been denied his rights to a trial as a citizen of this country. By two presidents....

You don't keep up very much on history, do you?

Mostly you just react to current events.

And while I'm at it, go to yesterday's editorials and read my comments about this paper. Do you suppose they'll pull those comments to protect conservative notions? Or will they leave those comments in the "interest of fairness?"

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dichotomy 11/13/12 - 05:46 pm
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Keep watching that sky

Keep watching that sky RA.....you might be sleeping under it before the next 4 is over.

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ultrarnr 11/13/12 - 06:37 pm
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Four More Years
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This is going to be fun the next four years reading all the posts from all those bitter over the election. Just imagine the comments if the economy really does improve and equal rights spread nationwide.

ultrarnr
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ultrarnr 11/13/12 - 06:40 pm
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??????
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Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) may not yet be ready to accept his apparent reelection defeat in Florida last week, but his Republican colleagues in Georgia are already seeking to provide a backup plan for the conservative darling's political future.

In an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution this week, Sue Everhart, chairwoman of the Georgia GOP, praised Atlanta native West as "one of the finest congressmen this country’s ever had." She then extended an invite for him to pursue a return to congress in Georgia in the future.

“I would be glad to have him come back to Georgia and at some point run here,” Everhart told the Journal-Constitution. “I would certainly try to help him because he has done his job. The way he ran his race didn’t in any way interfere with the job he did. He ran as a Republican, a conservative Republican.”

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KSL 11/13/12 - 08:14 pm
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If, not when the economy

If, not when the economy recovers? Telling.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 11/13/12 - 09:31 pm
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the economy will not

the economy will not improve..you cannot keep taking money out of the economy with out it having consequences..the economy is not static it will eventually behave in the direction of tax reduction stimulus or regulations and more taxes..the politician raised taxes on tobacco to curb consumption, same proposal has been made to gas to decrease our usage...so why when you raise taxes on labor and investment do you libs expect it not to affect it? without capital in our economy it will stagnant and contract..

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