A party in crisis

Republicans must look hard to find the problem and fix it

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In sports, they say that winning can sometimes serve only to cover up a team’s shortcomings.

The same might be true for a political party or even a nation.

In losing the election Tuesday, the Republican Party has had its considerable flaws exposed.

The depth of the loss wasn’t breathtaking, but the breadth of it was sweeping. Few expected a battered and reeling president who is presiding over the worst economy in generations to win in an electoral landslide.

By that measure, the outcome was, as Mr. Obama once described his 2010 midterm rebuke, a “shellacking.”

One cannot discount the media’s role in it. They gave the president a pass on innumerable problems, from the lies over Libya, to Fast and Furious, to billions in losses on Democrat-crony green energy clunkers, to his handling of the economy, and even to a dismal response to Hurricane Sandy – although history will record the storm as a net plus for the president, based essentially on fleeting images of him strolling the devastation with a Republican governor.

“I’m so glad we had that storm last week,” a jubilant Obama-cheering Chris Matthews of MSNBC even said after the election. He later apologized.

All the while, the working press smiled blithely as President Obama bypassed them to campaign on safe, friendly, nurturing talk shows.

America re-elected him based mostly on how he makes his supporters feel – and how his campaign was able to make them feel about Mitt Romney. Republicans tried to win on the issues. We see, now, which approach wins presidential elections.

In addition, liberal Democratic policies of bloated social programs – even as Medicare and Social Security and the rest of the federal government are headed for insolvency – attract large constituencies that are all-too-happy to wallow in the short-term security of big government. Never mind the cost to future generations!

Conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh concluded Wednesday, “Conservatism, in my humble opinion, did not lose last night. It’s just very difficult to beat Santa Claus.”

He’s right and he’s wrong. It is hard to beat a guy giving out free stuff. But he’s wrong about conservatism. It lost on Tuesday. Any conservative who tells himself otherwise is whistling past the graveyard, and only putting off conservatism’s necessary soul-searching.

Conservatives – this page among them – believe our principles of self-reliance, individual responsibility, liberty, thrift, morality and more are what made America great, and are what’s needed to make us great in the future. But on Tuesday – the one day in our lifetimes that a conservative message should have prevailed – it was rejected.

Wake up! Either the message or the messenger needs changing.

Moreover, liberal crowing since Tuesday that Republicans have problems connecting with minorities, women and youths is absolutely indisputable.

The Republican Party is in crisis.

It had better figure out what’s wrong with the conservative message or how it’s being put forth. At the same time, the party had better figure out how to appeal more to African-Americans, Latinos, women and youths.

Meanwhile, Democrats also should be mindful of the “winning covers up shortcomings” adage. They need to be careful not to overstate their mandate from Tuesday; a media darling was re-elected amid an unprecedented (in this country) cult of hero worship. The jury is still out on its overall judgment of liberal orthodoxy – though why it is, heaven knows: It’s been in full bloom in major American cities for decades of Democratic rule. How’s that working out?

And will the media ever tell that story?

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justthefacts
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justthefacts 11/12/12 - 02:06 pm
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Starbucks?

Probably not such a good example. Starbucks, starting in 2009, has closed 600 stores and laid off 12,000 employees due to poor profit attainment. The trend has improved lately.

faithson
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faithson 11/12/12 - 01:57 pm
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dichotomy

you do realize that had the republicans listened to your last paragraph on your 12.06 post, mittens would be running things and with a lot of support from many a moderate democrat.

loblolly
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loblolly 11/12/12 - 02:06 pm
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More Republican Problems
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By 2017 the US will be the top oil producer in the world. By 2035, we will be totally energy independent. I know this is very bad news for Republicans, but hey, it is for the good of the country!

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/12/12 - 02:12 pm
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So are you saying a personal

So are you saying a personal blog like the DailyKOS that admits paying for partisan opinions trumps Fox news. Well I've heard it all.

KSL
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KSL 11/12/12 - 02:28 pm
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Way back to seenit on page 1

How about paying for birth control but the mothers and fathers are responsible for the children, period. They didn't starve before LBJ. They won't starve today.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/12/12 - 02:35 pm
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faithson......yep, and if you

faithson......yep, and if you could check back a year or so on here I was saying the same thing then. A non-believing fiscal conservative is as much an orphan as a moderate democrat. There is no party that represents either of us.

loblolly
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loblolly 11/12/12 - 02:35 pm
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KSL
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They were starving before LBJ. Primarily in Appalachia. But who cares, really.

KSL
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KSL 11/12/12 - 03:03 pm
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Social Work training

Got mine from the great state of Georgia DFAC. On the tail end of Kennedy. LBJ was getting his into roaring gear.

Tales of the welfare worker showing up on a street where unwed mom recipients of welfare for her and her child(en), men were out backdoors and windows. It would have been funny except that they were cheating taxpayers and they really needed to pay up for their kids. Back then, mom lost out if she was caught with an able bodied man around. He was capable of paying, relieving the state. Birth control was not that available, but there were few illegitimate births. You get what you pay for.

DanK
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DanK 11/12/12 - 03:16 pm
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"Republicans tried to win on the issues"

Yes, exactly right. And no matter how you try to spin it, Republicans LOST on the issues.

The majority of Americans support:
-Women's choice on abortion
- Contraception and abortion as part of health insurance
- Science education rather than creationism in the schools
- Healthcare for ALL Americans
- Immigration policy with citizenship for working illegals
- Higher taxes PAID by the wealthy and on corporations
- Separation of church and public agencies
- Social Security benefits equaling or exceeding what was paid in
- Green energy and addressing climate change
- Bailouts for key industries that employ huge work forces
- Higher taxes on non-productive income (playing the stock market)
- Support for same-sex marriage and gay/lesbian rights
- Diversity, inclusivity and an end to racism in government

And many more. The Democrats ran on their POSITION on all these issues. So did the Republicans. Not just in the presidential campaign, but in house and senate races as well.

Conservatives who believe that they lost a beauty contest, rather than an election based on issues, are sticking their heads in the sand and praying for their fantasies to come true.

And if Republicans stick to the same ultra conservative positions, so inflexible and unwilling to compromise, they may never win another presidential election.

Old white men may continue to rule the south for many years to come, but the country is shifting, and as the shift continues, the south will become more and more marginalized.

namlive
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namlive 11/12/12 - 04:41 pm
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What to do, what to do.

Should the Republicans move toward the center and attempt to capture more voters or move to the extreme right so they can insult and alienate more people. Seems like a no-brainer. Excuse me while I break out the popcorn to watch them debate this.

rebellious
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rebellious 11/12/12 - 05:01 pm
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I will join this

discussion in 2 years, 6 months from now. No since wasting keystrokes yet!

LillyfromtheMills - Two outta three wasn't bad!

chascushman
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chascushman 11/12/12 - 06:41 pm
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The moocher class is
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The moocher class is outnumbering the working class

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/12/12 - 06:50 pm
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I find some irony many

I find some irony many progressives find any religion but especially christianity offensive because of their tenets and "rules". Yet they have no problem with a "nanny" state of making rules like no "biggie" drinks or don't eat meat on Monday, etc. It's ok for govt to make rules like regulating female birth control for population control with mandatory abortions and mandatory birth control for population control because progressives believe in "science" which supports regulating populations for limited resources-but a religion set rules concerning abortion or birth control and OMG.

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burninater 11/12/12 - 06:52 pm
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Probably not such a good

Probably not such a good example. Starbucks, starting in 2009, has closed 600 stores and laid off 12,000 employees due to poor profit attainment. The trend has improved lately.
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Starbucks' problem was straying from their core business model after Schultz left the company. He returned, and returned them to that core business model, and that "improved trend" is a FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT increase in stock value from 2009. Starbucks is an EXCELLENT example.

burninater
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burninater 11/12/12 - 07:02 pm
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The Starbucks rebound, and

The Starbucks rebound, and record corporate profits in other sectors, exposes the lie that the Obama administration's policies have been inherently bad for business.

If all business was failing, then a systematic problem would be likely. If some businesses are failing while others are thriving, the failing businesses would be well-advised to look in the mirror instead of blaming the gov't.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/12/12 - 07:29 pm
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Starbucks is no example at

Starbucks is no example at all because they did get away from their core business and then come back. Bush had nothing to do with them losing value and Obama had nothing to do with them coming back. It's a fluke example. But check them out next year and see how many part time and full time employees they have and if their business is expanding.

allhans
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allhans 11/12/12 - 07:30 pm
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"First, Obama received over

"First, Obama received over 99% of the vote in districts where GOP inspectors were illegally removed. Next, he won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland. Well, he’s gotten another lucky break!

r. Obama won Wood County in Ohio this year. That’s right, Mr. Obama won the majority of Wood County’s 108% of registered voters. That’s not a typo.

In 2012, 106,258 people in Wood County are registered to vote out of an eligible 98,213.

Secretary of College Democrats Morgan Holliger chimed in, “We won Wood County, we won Ohio.”

Mr. Obama did indeed win Wood County, along with its 108% of voters.

Half the Democratic ground game is voter turnout. The other half is voter fraud. Voter ID would make an impact on this game, but ...."

burninater
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burninater 11/12/12 - 07:47 pm
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Just for the record

Just for the record dichotomy, check my 11:21am post. My point about Starbucks wasn't about business success under different administrations, but about business models that treat employees humanely vs treating employees as nothing more than means of production.

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carcraft 11/12/12 - 07:48 pm
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Seems liberals also support

Seems liberals also support record deficits, using our military to attack countries that are not threatening us, rendition, the patriot act and keeping Gitmo open, high unemployment with high gas prices! Gee seems like Bush light to me!

carcraft
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carcraft 11/12/12 - 07:48 pm
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I love the intellectual

I love the intellectual superior left that talks about Republican law makers while ignoring Maxine Waters who wants to send a Mars explorer over to check out the lunar landing site. Then we have the great Hank Johnson worried about Guam tipping over http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg . Of course there is the all time great Joe Biden world class clown and the unforgettable stand up Chuck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4 . So please excuse me if I am not all that impressed with the intellectual superiority of the Democratic Party. Also Of note is that Democrats of Detroit ( the intellectual hub of America ) elected an eight (yes that is 8, you know two less than the fingers on your hands or toes on your feet) time convicted felon to public office. So excuse me if I am not too impressed with your candidates either! I’ll take Bachman any day over this group!

burninater
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burninater 11/12/12 - 07:52 pm
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Liberal deficits? Carcraft,

Liberal deficits? Carcraft, you know that Republican-controlled House appropriations under Boehner have been greater than the Democrat-controlled House under Pelosi? You knew that, right?

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/12/12 - 07:58 pm
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DanK.....don't fool yourself

DanK.....don't fool yourself that the majority of Americans support ALL of your issues. The Democrats have a coalition of a lot of single issue voters who do not necessarily support ALL of those things but are willing to prostitute their vote for their one or two issues. As an example, the majority of Americans STILL do not approve of Obamacare but were willing to prostitute their vote for, as an example, birth control pills from the Catholics. Don't kid yourself that the majority of Americans support ALL of those issues. And your coalition is fragile. If the economy doesn't do well for the next 4 years you would be surprised how fickle a prostitute can be.

burninater
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burninater 11/12/12 - 08:03 pm
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Allhans, Bowling Green

Allhans, Bowling Green University in Wood County has more than 17,000 students. Students are registered to vote in Woods County, but not included in the census population.

You also understand that voting age population data is from 2010, but registration numbers are from 2012, right?

It's good to be vigilant about voter fraud, but that's no excuse for shoddy research.

faithson
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faithson 11/12/12 - 09:22 pm
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Car

come on now... we have extremes on both sides although I will give it to you on the voting 'criminals' into public office, seems there is a portion of dem's that live by the cult of personality over ethics of the same. a problem that we see here in our own community. Now using Bachman is like using maxine for some of us, crazy is what crazy does, and both are way out there....

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fedex227 11/12/12 - 09:41 pm
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"Seems liberals support ... using our military to attack
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countries that are not threatening us."

You mean like Iraq?

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/13/12 - 12:36 am
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And Hopefully The Last Word On This Thread

Hey ACES, SOUR GRAPES are always SOUR GRAPES!!!

justthefacts
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justthefacts 11/13/12 - 07:36 am
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Last Word?

Well, the post with the least intellectual content maybe.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/13/12 - 08:04 am
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Still SOUR GRAPES no matter

Still SOUR GRAPES no matter what the intelectual content.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 11/13/12 - 08:59 am
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Thumbs

Giving yourself thumbs up? haha.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 11/14/12 - 11:03 am
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justthefacts11/13/12 - 08:59 am

JTF writes: "Giving yourself thumbs up? haha."

If I don't think I deserve them, I shouldn't post it. Do folks who run for public office vote for their opponent?

And it's still SOUR GRAPES! :)

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