Just who needs to be monitored?

Electioneering shenanigans appear one-sided

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It’s certainly rich with hypocrisy and absurdity: Liberal groups have invited international observers to police America’s election for nonexistent signs of “suppression” of minority votes next week.

Meanwhile, liberal Democrats have done their best to suppress voting by our men and women in uniform overseas – and to fight any effort to protect the integrity of the U.S. voting system with such things as photo ID.

And, indeed, the son of Democratic congressman James Moran of Virginia was caught on hidden camera recently encouraging and instructing someone in the finer points of committing voter fraud. He resigned his father’s campaign in disgrace.

And in several places in America, electronic voting machines have mysteriously substituted Democrat Barack Obama’s name when people tried to cast ballots for Republican Mitt Romney. How many such instances of vote-stealing occurred without being noticed?

Apparently it’s the Democrats who need to be monitored.

Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, a Republican, caused a furor last week when he warned observers from the Organization for Security and Co-Operation in Europe to stay 100 feet away from voting precincts in that state or face prosecution.

Abbott’s decorum in the exchange may have been less than desirable, but his right to protect the integrity of voting places is unassailable. Moreover, it’s a bit of an insult to be told that your election system is so untrustworthy that you need international observers. We don’t blame Texas, or any other state, for getting its back up.

Having said that, you have to wonder: If our foreign friends are trying to get tips on how to do elections right, this may not be the time and place to learn anything constructive. Since New Black Panthers were seen trying to intimidate voters outside a precinct in Philadelphia, and Democrats have fought voter ID tooth and nail, maybe the integrity of the nation’s voting system needs to be questioned.

Just not for the reasons the Democrats would like.

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fedex227
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fedex227 10/31/12 - 12:01 am
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"Liberal groups have invited international observers ...
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to police America’s election for nonexistent signs of “suppression” of minority votes next week."

With this statement, the the ACES would like you to think that this is an anomoly. Republican sponsored periodicals like this throughout the United States would have you believe the Obama administration is bringing in UN troops to monitor polls during the 2012 general election. The observers are actually from the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), invited to observe U.S. elections. Invited by George Bush to observe elections in 2002, the OSCE is an intergovernmental organization and is independent of the United Nations. They have been observing major national elections in the U.S., by invitation of the U.S.government and local municipalities, since the 1988.

Requests to OSCE are made by indvidual municipalites, this year it shows that there are an equal number of Republican and Democrat communities that have requested observers. Portraying this as the Obama administration's first ever invite to outside observers looking into the U.S. election process is inaccurate and intentionally misleading; an example of fear-mongering and politicizing what is intended to be, and previously has been, a purely neutral observational exercise by a group who has observed a number of previous elections in the US.

Read the Augusta Chronicle editorials and remain ignorant. Or do the research, discover the facts, and learn the truth. It's as simple as that folks.

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wayne2410 10/31/12 - 05:47 am
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I read AC editorials daily
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I read AC editorials daily and I consider myself far from ignorant. That is just the typical liberal reaction to anything they disagree with or do not like, similar to how they will brand one a racist in a flash if an argument goes against them. You liberals need to quit with the insults and try to become decent Americans again, it is okay for people to disagree sometimes, you libs just need to control your emotions and start acting like adults.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 10/31/12 - 07:34 am
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Huh?

Wonder what that's all about? Keyboard broke?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/31/12 - 07:44 am
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Wow...8 links posted with no
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Wow...8 links posted with no commentary at all.....from the very person who JUST accused the ACES of "stealing, ripping, or borrowing" stories from Fox. I'm overwhelmed by the irony.

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Tullie 10/31/12 - 07:46 am
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Techfan

Are you spamming?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/31/12 - 07:48 am
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Of course not, Tullie....that
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Of course not, Tullie....that would be a violation of the rules, and the moderator wouldn't allow that. @@

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Riverman1 10/31/12 - 08:04 am
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The next time I have a week

The next time I have a week or so off, I'm going to sit down and read Techfan's links.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 10/31/12 - 08:09 am
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silence is golden ....also

silence is golden ....also very revealing...

faithson
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faithson 10/31/12 - 08:15 am
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message vs messenger

thanks Tech for submitting counter arguments to this editorial, even though one has to do some 'work' to see what they are. seems many on these boards want to be 'spoon' fed their daily dose of conservative blather, without a dissenting comment that might indicate the hypocritical position they stand on.

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Retired Army 10/31/12 - 08:50 am
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Humble Angela10/31/12 - 07:44 am

Ah yes, is this the same Humble Angela who badgers others for sources and research? Say it ain't so.

Now techfan presents them in spades, (can't discern if they're read)and all that is left is a snide remark. Wow! No commentary on the substance and hell, didn't even bother to use the tired old tactic of discrediting the source.

And now, for all the posting community to see, the real reason so many of us don't bother with the frivolous.

Good job Tech. The truth shall set the reasonable free, but it really angers the ideologues.

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TParty 10/31/12 - 08:26 am
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"Liberal Democrats have done

"Liberal Democrats have done their best to suppress voting by our men and women in uniform overseas"

That's not true.

http://factcheck.org/2012/08/obama-not-trying-to-curb-military-early-vot...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/military.asp

This lie comes from lack of requests from military folks overseas, however you can find non-biased sources with evidence that compared with 2004, the last time an incumbent president was running, the number of absentee ballots downloaded from the central military website is similar.

Now, I appreciate ACES attempting to bring out corruption and calling out voter fraud, even without sources, proof (Like Obama's replacing Romney's when people try to vote for Mittens), however ACES loses all credibility by never mentioning Colin Small, who threw out state voter registration forms. No mention of the voter registering company Strategic Allied Consultants. No mention of recent problems- like Newt Gingrich submitting fake names trying to be president. No questioning about the accusations out there about Romney's son investing in voting booths....

Maybe it's an oversight on ACES, I don't know...

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Retired Army 10/31/12 - 08:36 am
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Here's a little bit more on

Here's a little bit more on the election process to chew on. And before I hear any Malarkey about "conspiracy theroies" just remember this can work either way.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/romney_hart/

My solution? Simple. Get rid of electronic voting in all forms. As a former computer geek(in the last two years of my military career)I am well aware of the fact that humans can use machines to cheat.

You say takes too much time to count? More Malarkey! Human beings can count and duplicate receipts to the voters are a great backstop to cheating. If it takes a week or two to tabulate the results, so what?

An additional advantage(especially for some of my "code word" friends)would be that the voter would actually have to know how to read and write.

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justthefacts 10/31/12 - 08:41 am
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"No questioning about the

"No questioning about the accusations out there about Romney's son investing in voting booths...." Ah, maybe because there is no truth to it? I am sure the rest are just as much bunk.

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justthefacts 10/31/12 - 08:46 am
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Question TParty

"No mention of recent problems- like Newt Gingrich submitting fake names trying to be president". Submitting names to who? Is this a new voting technique?

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TParty 10/31/12 - 08:49 am
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About Romney's family investments in voting booths:

"Ah, maybe because there is no truth to it? I am sure the rest are just as much bunk."

You can start here, and if you want more, just let me know.

http://news.yahoo.com/romney-family-investment-ties-voting-machine-compa...

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Retired Army 10/31/12 - 08:51 am
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TParty10/31/12 - 08:49 am

Quit that T. You know facts upset idealogues. You want 'em to have a hernia? :)

justthefacts
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justthefacts 10/31/12 - 08:53 am
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Snoopes

Snoopes, who you used above, says it's false and explains why.

TParty
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TParty 10/31/12 - 08:55 am
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"Submitting names to who? Is

"Submitting names to who? Is this a new voting technique?"

It's a procedure that someone tried circumventing, in attempt to cheat their way to the Presidency. Also known as fraud. Saying people gave you their support, or vote, and that's why you should be a candidate when no one ever did is fraud.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 10/31/12 - 08:56 am
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Please answer the question

Submitting names to who. It's not that tough a question.

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Young Fred 10/31/12 - 09:06 am
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Riverman1:

“The next time I have a week or so off, I'm going to sit down and read Techfan's links.”

Print out the articles and wait until you’re suffering from insomnia.

Ooops, that might not be a good idea, you’ll just complicate your condition with alternate outburst of hysterical laughter, and despairing bouts of weeping.

TParty
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TParty 10/31/12 - 09:07 am
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"Submitting names to who.

"Submitting names to who. It's not that tough a question." To whomever accepted them in Virginia, to be on a ballot. Gingrich submitted false signatures, also known as fraud.

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Humble Angela 10/31/12 - 09:09 am
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RA. Please show just one
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RA. Please show just one example of where I tried to discredit a source.....or is it MY job to back up your baseless accusations again?

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