Reluctant reporting

Some media seemed far too willing to ignore ICE sex scandal

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If we were living under a Republican administration, the unbelievable sex scandal at Homeland Security would top most newscasts – and the person behind it would be a household name.

As it is, Suzanne Barr, Immigration and Customs Enforcement chief of staff, slunk away quietly, with nary a word from the media until the bitter end – especially from liberal outlets such as CNN, which tried its best to ignore the scandal completely until Barr’s unsightly resignation.

It had become simply unbearable, apparently: Barr is accused by several employees of harassing males so blatantly and publicly that her rule is being described as a “frat house.” At least one man has filed a sexual discrimination and retaliation lawsuit, while several others confirm the characterizations of Barr.

The allegations against her include making embarrassing remarks about a male subordinate’s private parts at an office party and offering to perform sex acts on several male subordinates at other times.

The scandal is all the more embarrassing due to the fact that Barr is no low-level worker; she’s not only chief of staff, but a longtime aide to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Barr denies the allegations as “unfounded,” but said she’s resigning to end the distraction for her former department. It won’t, of course: There’s the lawsuit, and Congress will, and should, investigate. Homeland Security also is investigating.

But some news media were awfully late to this party. And the significance of the story – alleged blatant sexual harassment by a top employee at ICE, and a woman to boot – only makes the reluctant reporting more peculiar.

But that’s not even the biggest ICE scandal the news media are largely ignoring.

The agency has been found to have lied about the number of illegal aliens it has deported – to make it appear as if President Obama is tougher on illegal immigration than his predecessors.

ICE has claimed that its deportations are up over the Bush administration’s, but the House Judiciary Committee has uncovered internal documents indicating that deportations actually are down 20 percent.

The committee says ICE essentially is double-counting many illegals, by including in the total number those illegal aliens who simply are transferred from one Border Patrol sector to another before final deportation. Such people end up being counted twice for deportation.

In addition, the committee simply could not confirm the existence of some 40,000 illegals that ICE claims to have deported in its 2012 statistics.

In short, dear citizen, it appears for all the world as if your federal government is flat lying to you about its activities vis-a-vis protecting our border.

If only there were some sexual harassment involved. Maybe then the deportation scandal would get at least a modicum of attention.

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burninater
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burninater 09/19/12 - 03:22 pm
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The real problem Romney has

The real problem Romney has created for himself and the Republicans is his repeated utter incompetence in running a modern political campaign.

The Republican narrative is that Romney's wealth is not a result of his being a Governor's son, whose college was paid for with his father's wealth, whose graduate degree was paid for with his father's wealth, whose first house was paid for with his father's wealth, and whose seed money for his business endeavors was his father's wealth. The Republican narrative is that Romney's wealth is inherent proof of his business and managerial acumen, that his wealth is purely a function of his personal ethic and ability, and that the context of prosperity is meaningless.

And now it has become increasingly clear that the guy can't even run himself competently, not to mention a campaign, which raises all sorts of questions about how much of his personal success has simply been a function of being born a spoiled rich kid.

Republicans have been betting the farm on the illusion that the possession of wealth equals some sort of inherent competence, or nobility, or divine right. This tactic is as old as dirt, and in a democratic republic, is only as good as your current incarnation of this premise. Well, the Mitt incarnation is proving to be a bumbling idiot, and the narrative that prosperity is independent of context is taking it on the chin.

Mitt is proving once again that a silver spoon can raise even an idiot to wealth and power -- and is raising the spectre of He Who Shall Not Be Named, or the LAST Republican silver spoon baby to sit in office.

And ultimately, this whole scenario has people thinking not as much about "is this person wealthy and therefore more competent than the average man", as they are thinking "exactly how did this bumbling idiot become so powerful, and what does that say about how wealth and power are gained?".

The takers (the 1% skimming off the rest of us) don't like it when the makers (the 99% actually creating value) start asking these kinds of questions.

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 03:22 pm
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Riverman Said....

"Look at the Chicago teachers. They got what they wanted, but now the word is some schools will have to be closed, meaning a loss of jobs and more crowding of classes. Numbers are unemotional....or should be."

Speaking of numbers...think of all the money that was spent (and time lost at work) by parents whose children were out of school all that time. I've seen some parents claiming they paid $50-$100/day for babysitters and other parents who had to take time off from work to take care of their children.

I've also heard/read that the strike by the teachers' union was illegal because it was not about $$$$, but other issues like hiring practices, teacher evaluation, etc..

If I was an enterprising attorney in Chicago, I'd file a class action lawsuit against the unions and the city seeking reimbursement for all parental costs incurred as a result of the illegal strike.

It's the fair thing to do.

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 03:23 pm
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burninater said...

"Mitt is proving once again that a silver spoon can raise even an idiot to wealth and power"

My goodness...do you never tire of the name calling and insulting?

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grouse 09/19/12 - 03:32 pm
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Back to the first statement
Unpublished

Back to the first statement of the editorial (and not getting into the charges themselves), as I recall, it was the Republicans who made hay out of the Clinton sex scandal (and my conservative friends bring it up anytime Bill is in the news), so don't give me the partisan/liberal media bias bull...The editorial writers have selective memories...

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 03:48 pm
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burninater said....

"The takers (the 1% skimming off the rest of us) don't like it when the makers (the 99% actually creating value) start asking these kinds of questions."

Well, that's an interesting claim, isn't it?

99% are "actually creating value," you say. And only "1% skimming off the rest of us?"

Would you be so kind as to tell me what value is created by the hundreds of thousands of drug addicted, uneducated, unmotivated dregs of society that live their lives through dollars and programs doled out by governments at several levels? What value is created by a "mom" of multiple out of wedlock children who spends her days drinking or taking drugs while her undisciplined children wreak havoc on public schools and society at large?

Thanks in advance for your polite, thoughtful response.

burninater
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burninater 09/19/12 - 03:59 pm
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Like most straw men examples, the

Like most straw men examples, the value of such examples is around zero.

Do you honestly believe 99% of Americans can be adequately described by your examples, Harley?

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Willow Bailey 09/19/12 - 04:33 pm
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The story is NOT about

The story is NOT about Romney.

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Riverman1 09/19/12 - 05:10 pm
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Burn said, "The takers (the

Burn said, "The takers (the 1% skimming off the rest of us) don't like it when the makers (the 99% actually creating value) start asking these kinds of questions."

That's an unusual line when we have zillions on food stamps, welfare and other giveme programs....a lot more than 1%. Of course you are talking about the top 1%, but I'm sure they contribute in actual dollars more than the bottom 47% because that gets into using the math problem of zero again in the calculations.

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 04:46 pm
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burninater said...

"Like most straw men examples, the

"Like most straw men examples, the value of such examples is around zero."

Since I've created no strawmen, I have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't want to (or can't) answer the question, why don't you just politely decline, rather than impugn me for creating strawmen?

"Do you honestly believe 99% of Americans can be adequately described by your examples, Harley?"

Which examples? You mean the drug addicts and/or single mothers with multiple out of wedlock children? Of course they can't. I asked you how they "create value" as you earlier claimed. You've chosen to avoid answering so I sure don't want to inconvenience you by pressing the issue.

Thanks again.

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Little Lamb 09/19/12 - 04:54 pm
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Zero

Is burninater trying to divide by zero again, RM?

:-)

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Riverman1 09/19/12 - 05:10 pm
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LL, yep, tell him to leave

LL, yep, tell him to leave the silver grey crayon alone in the big double box that opens both ways, color in the lines and not try to add, subtract, multiply or divide with zero. Give me REAL Chuck Norris "numers" and none of that IMAGINARY stuff.

burninater
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burninater 09/19/12 - 05:42 pm
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Ah, the old empty chair gag

Ah, the old empty chair gag again, nice!

Where did I divide by zero? That was Riverman's little piece of the imaginary, not really sure what he was even talking about. But that's okay, I'm so used to y'all tilting at windmills that it really doesn't phase me anymore.

And Harley, you just don' t see what you do, do you?

"99% are "actually creating value," you say. And only "1% skimming off the rest of us?"

Would you be so kind as to tell me what value is created by the hundreds of thousands of drug addicted, uneducated, unmotivated dregs of society that live their lives through dollars and programs doled out by governments at several levels? What value is created by a "mom" of multiple out of wedlock children who spends her days drinking or taking drugs while her undisciplined children wreak havoc on public schools and society at large?"

These are your straw men. You talk about the 99%, and their role as value creators, by using the slim minority that cannot support themselves as indicative examples. You dance over the vast majority of the 99% of value creators as irrelevant, to try to focus on the slim minority that create no value.

Why do I say slim minority, when everyone knows 20% of Americans are on food stamps? (Try to follow me here LL and Riverman, as math seems to be a sore spot today).

70% of these lazy, drug infested, takers are, well, children. And disabled. And the elderly.

http://www.foodstamps.org/articles/facts-for-households-on-snap

Which leaves 30% * 20% = 6% of Americans that are able-bodied and eligible to work are on food stamps.

Which means 93% of the makers are ineligible for this MEANS TESTED program, or, they are MAKING, not TAKING.

So to me Harley, by focusing on this 6% of Americans that are leeches, when discussing the 99%, you are creating straw men, and dodging the issue. I hope this is clear enough for you.

And by the way, this is EXACTLY the problem that the far Right has created for itself. Their rhetoric continues to press the case that Harley presses here, that discussing the plight of the middle class cannot be done without talking about the slim minority of leeches in this country -- which, by syllogism, presses home the case again and again that the far Right views the middle class as one and the same as these leeches they continually bring up in class discussions.

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rmwhitley 09/19/12 - 06:26 pm
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Numbers that
Unpublished

count most in this election cycle: 47%- Numbers that don't matter this election cycle: Unemployment nationally- 8.3%- unemployment in the minority community a mere 20%- gas prices hovering at $4.00 a gallon- number of Ambassadors assassinated under the obama administration ? 1 ?, - number of border agents killed at the hands of eric holder's justice department ? 1 ?, - number of exterminations by planned parenthood ??- number of Americans killed by islamic terrorists without retaliation ( just think nidal hasan )- number of vacations taken at taxpayer expense by the obama and biden clans- number of campaign stops while not paying attention to his JOB- number of the inflation rate which is becoming unsustainable by average households- number of fabrications uttered by democrats and their lackey press- number of people on welfare and gubmint assistance-number of white conservatives who have been denigrated for fiscal policies that can only SAVE the American ECONOMY. democrats are like the child in the check-out lane of the grocery store screaming and hollering at their mommy, daddy or Uncle Sam because they can't have any more candy. When was the last time you saw a chicago drug dealer on ebt, welfare, children's assistance, food stamps and raking in thousands of non-taxable drug money ever contribute ANYTHING to civilized society? That's this regime's vision for America.

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KSL 09/19/12 - 06:46 pm
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Most of the elderly these

Most of the elderly these days would have (should have) worked long enough to be under Social Security or some other type of pension plan. IRA's, etc. have been around since the 70's.

And while it is not the fault of the children born into poverty, there is plenty of blame. Irresponsible parents, government generosity (You reward the bevhavior, you just get more of it), the break down of the family. I could go on. Someone's bad decision(s) should not be my financial responsibility. I deplore people who have more children than they can afford.

I encountered a family that had at least 8 children and they told me they weren't done. They lived Section 8 rental but were moving into A USDA financed home. No doubt they received a large amount in food stamps, earned income credit, and who knows what else. No telling how much their choice to have a large family they could not afford was costing taxpayers.

I will hasten to add, I have no problems with large families. One of brother's best friends at UGA came from a
large family. Upon first meeting Tommy and finding out about all his siblings, my brother asked him if he knew all of their names. I have no doubt the father was taking care of bills as he was a professional person. One of Tommy's sisters became a professional golfer on the tour.

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Riverman1 09/19/12 - 06:54 pm
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Talk about faulty syllogisms.

Talk about faulty syllogisms. Who is talking about the middle class? That's Burn's conclusion that Harley is criticizing the middle class when he is only criticizing the no good bums on government handouts. That's the problem with the far Left believing getting the bums off of welfare is attacking the middle class. Kind of like checking IDs before voting is attacking the poor.

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burninater 09/19/12 - 07:13 pm
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Riverman, it was no one on

Riverman, it was no one on the Left saying 47% of Americans are on the dole.

It was no one on the Left that said

"99% are "actually creating value," you say. And only "1% skimming off the rest of us?"

Would you be so kind as to tell me what value is created by the hundreds of thousands of drug addicted, uneducated, unmotivated dregs of society that live their lives through dollars and programs doled out by governments at several levels? What value is created by a "mom" of multiple out of wedlock children who spends her days drinking or taking drugs while her undisciplined children wreak havoc on public schools and society at large?"

when the supermajority of the 99% are none of those examples.

The Left is responding to what the Right is actually saying. If the Right doesn't want the Left and Center to think they are attacking the middle class, then stop attacking them. It's really not a difficult thing to do -- unless they really believe what they're saying ...

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harley_52 09/19/12 - 07:50 pm
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burninater said....

"So to me Harley, by focusing on this 6% of Americans that are leeches, when discussing the 99%, you are creating straw men, and dodging the issue. I hope this is clear enough for you."

Well maybe to you, kind sir, but that makes you quite unique.

I didn't assess the percentages (99% value creaters, 1% leeches) YOU DID. I simply asked you to explain them. You obviously can't. And because you can't, and because you won't admit you can't, you choose to attack me as "creating strawmen" and by some ranting about what the "right," or the "left" claims.

I've asked you to do something fairly simple.....explain YOUR OWN claims.

Obviously, that's a task too difficult.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

KSL
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KSL 09/19/12 - 07:55 pm
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Speaking of checking ID's, I

Speaking of checking ID's, I went for an xray the other day and of course had to present my insurance cards and driver's license. I inquired if she encountered many people who didn't have a picture ID. The answer was "no."

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 08:10 pm
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KSL...

Regarding "large families"....

As the second child in a family of eight boys and five girls, I know a little something about "large families."

I could write a book about the differences, but I will simply say that today's large families have no resemblance to large families of my generation.

harley_52
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harley_52 09/19/12 - 08:26 pm
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Romney....

...must have a democrat worm on his advisory staff.

He's campaigning much like McCain did. Meek, apologetic, worried about what the mainstream media says, afraid to openly attack the President's policies and the President himself, acting more like a m.m..m...moderate than a Conservative.

He has missed many chances to score major points, but two big ones just recently. First, his initial comment about the State Department's reaction to the embassy attack in Egypt.

Second, he has completely mishandled this latest controversy about 47% of the voters.

In both cases he should have stood firm, remained unapologetic, and explained, in blunt, straightforward language, why he said what he said. He needs to grow a pair of ....um....tinkerbells, look the reporters in the eye, tell them they are purposely mischaracterizing his comments, and moving on to the next question. He needs to do it bluntly, with a smile on his face, and adding whatever comedy he can muster and is appropriate (in his opinion) to the situation.

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carcraft 09/19/12 - 08:38 pm
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Burninater- If you missed the

Burninater- If you missed the news (because it certainly wasn't on with Dianne Sawyer) The Obama administration finally admitted, before a congressional committee that the attack in Libya was an organized terrorist attack. Also not mentioned by Dianne was the fact that dreamers (illegal young Hispanics) will not receive benefits under Obama care as Obama had leaded them to believe. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/top-administration-official-s... Of coure if Obama can’t figure out how to protect our Ambassadors after three days of warning he isn’t fit to run a country! And if Obama will lie to the American people for three days he isn't fit to be in office!

carcraft
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carcraft 09/19/12 - 08:48 pm
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Burninater- Speaking of other

Burninater- Speaking of other news the media was reluctant to report, if you watched Dianne Sawyer tonight you also would have missed the fact that the American embassy in Indonesia was closed. It seems Obama's home away from home where he learned to love Islam isn't too thrilled with him.. BWAHAHAHAHAH http://news.yahoo.com/us-temporarily-closes-consulate-indonesias-3rd-lar...

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carcraft 09/19/12 - 08:53 pm
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G more news not reported by

Gee more news not reported by Dianne to make room for stories about Romney just abound. Good heavens, I located this story about how the US ambassador to China was attacked in his car by a group of 50 protestors! Obama said something once about how whem he was President the world would respect us more..http://www.indianexpress.com/news/us-ambassadors-car-attacked-by-protesters-in-china/1004975/

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carcraft 09/19/12 - 08:56 pm
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On David Letterman last night

On David Letterman last night Obama didn't know how big the national debt was.. BWAHAHAHAHA and Burninator talks about Romney not beign able to run a campaign! Obama can't run a Justice Department LOL

carcraft
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carcraft 09/19/12 - 09:20 pm
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Also missed on Dianne Tonight

Also missed on Dianne Tonight was the fact the CBO announced Obama care was goingto addd taxes to 6 million middle class Americans, gee isn'tObama so caring...Now on to a gaff by Mitt 4 months ago, that is really burning news, unlike the Embassy in Indonesia closing...

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carcraft 09/19/12 - 09:01 pm
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Say did I mention Mitt said

Say did I mention Mitt said 47% of American's will support Obama and view themselves as victims four months ago, we had better report this because this is just a much bigger story than the fact that terrorists in Libya carried out a successful terrorist attack and killed the US ambassador and the Obama Adminsitration has tried to cover it up ever since it happened?

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carcraft 09/19/12 - 09:19 pm
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Here is another tidbit of

Here is another tidbit of news( not reported by Dianne Sawyer) to hlep the the lefties that post here to catch up. It appears many of the riots in Egypt were to get the release of the blind shiek who was involved in the first bombing of the world trade center released. I know how important it is to make sure the American people have time to digest Romney's fund raising speech so this story had to be let go since it is of minor significance! CNN's Nic Robertson Interviews Brother of Blind Sheik , you can go to you tube and view this rather interesting but not as interesting or news worthy as Mitts four month old fund raiser!

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myfather15 09/19/12 - 10:03 pm
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Burninator.....

You keep rambling about Romney not being qualified and he is successful because of his Daddy's wealth. Could you answer me one question honestly without bias, what qualifications did Obama have in 2008?? What foreign policy experience did he have? How long had he been a senator? This was the most unqualified person to ever win the Presidency, so please stop talking about silver spoons and daddy's money. The jeolousy and envy must stop, thats what got us all here in the first place.

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