The Arab Offspring

Blind, senseless, violent rage is the misbegotten son of hatred

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Rage never makes sense. Ever. It’s not rational. It’s destructive and wins no one over, and is therefore wholly counterproductive. And it almost always hurts the one enraged as much or more than anyone.

Rage, of course, is the spawn of hatred, and the Mideast is rife with its misbegotten offspring.

America is just the most convenient target at the moment. This isn’t about us. If it weren’t us, it’d be someone or something else. The insanity you see on naked display in the Arab world today is quite indigenous. It sprouts from centuries of
hatred – of other religions, of other tribes, of other ethnicities, of women, of animals, of individual freedom, of free speech, of hard truths, of anybody else having a good time – you name it, they hate it.

How could Allah deign to approve of such hatred and violence by the people who worship him?

These people are so out of synch with the eternal, and so consumed with the infernal, that they’re breathing their fire in an alternate universe. God is love; these people represent the precise opposite.

Arab spring? What a joke! It’s the Arab dead of winter.

Until the many good people in their midst can take over – and throw off centuries of misogyny and mind control and xenophobia and religious hatred and all-consuming intolerance – then what’s the point of even having an embassy?

The Libyans, in their feral ferment, have just senselessly slaughtered one of their best friends. By all accounts, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens gave as much comfort and aid to the Libyan freedom fighters as humanly possible during their fight against Gadhafi. As President Obama dolefully noted, Stevens helped save Libya.

But this is the toxic fog of delirium one exists in when living in a culture where enmity flows like water and spews more abundantly than oil.

Conflict, violence, suffering and hatred thrive where the desire to control others is the strongest. And nowhere is it stronger than in the Arab Mideast. Between dictators and despots, and the uber-authoritarian religion they hide behind to control their populations, these misguided souls are forging their own chains, and then lashing out at the rest of the world.

The status of women in that part of the world is most telling. Don’t get us started on that. They are, in many cases, chattel.

Throwing off a few dictators appeared, to some observers, like an Arab spring, a renaissance in human freedom. Many participants no doubt felt that in their hearts. And it still may come to pass. In the end, though, it may only have been the usual rage – turned inward for a change – and they may only have traded one tyranny for another.

America, and the West generally, get some things wrong, no doubt. One thing we are iron-clad right about, though, is the right of human beings to speak their minds and be themselves – and that neither words, nor depictions or images, nor our beautifully diverse religions and belief systems, are things to riot and maim and kill and hate over.

It’s truly amazing that so many people in the world don’t get any of that.

And that so many of them happened to end up in one place.

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fedex227
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fedex227 09/14/12 - 12:51 am
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What a great job of ...
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summing up in only 15 paragraphs the entire Middle East situation. The ACES solution to the crisis? Uh, not seeing it in this editorial yet. Much the same way I haven't heard what the Romney/Ryan solution is to this problem. ACES - please provide a follow-up editorial with your political insight into how this most critical situation can be resolved.

shrimp for breakfast
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shrimp for breakfast 09/14/12 - 03:23 am
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Very good ACES

You hit the nail on the head!

carcraft
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carcraft 09/14/12 - 04:40 am
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The murder of the Libyan

The murder of the Libyan Ambassador was the work of Islamic radicals and a small group with in Libya not the majority of the people of Libya. This was a coordinated response to the Killing of Bin Laden. The people in Egypt where chanting “Obama we are Osama”! ACE’s is close. Is what is even worse is President Obama’s response;” Egypt isn’t an ally or enemy”. If Obama doesn’t know why, are we sending Egypt $1.5 billion dollars? Obama could fund three Solyndra projects with that!

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AprilLowry 09/14/12 - 04:46 am
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Wow,

ACES, thanks for sharing. It's a complicated and sad situation, but you did a very good job of saying it like it is.

freeradical
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freeradical 09/14/12 - 05:01 am
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Murdering , burning ,

Murdering , burning , beheading.

Fueled by the same seething , rage filled , demonic spirit that super

charged Hitler in his bloodlust for the Jews , and the king of

the jews.

Apparently Obama's command to remove the very notion of Jerusalem

from the democrat convention & lexicon did not take .

Perhaps he can show himself to be more " flexible " after his re-

election ?

avidreader
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avidreader 09/14/12 - 05:07 am
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From the Grey Monk

From a poem by William Blake:

The hand of Vengeance found the bed
To which the Purple Tyrant fled;
The iron hand crush'd the Tyrant's head
And became a Tyrant in his stead."

History always proves itself accurate. And yes, it continues to repeat itself.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 09/14/12 - 05:12 am
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perhaps it was our

perhaps it was our campaigner n chief who said we should not spike the football over bin ladens death..yet reminds us almost daily WHAT he did!!' biden and the dnc touting the killing over and over to prompt this prez..NO its not the film either ..they hate us no matter how apologetic obumler has been..we are at war!!!! its time to wake up again like 9/11. the arab spring is merely an extension of this radical movement..it should have been identified then for what it was but was not..but hopey and changey are not a good foreign policy..

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Riverman1 09/14/12 - 06:11 am
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It puts what Israel has to

It puts what Israel has to deal with in perspective. Maybe we can talk them into expanding their coming attack on Iran.

Let's be truthful. Obama went to Cairo and instigated this whole "Arab Spring" deal. This is not about a few crazies. This is an organized attack going on throughout the mideast. We are at war.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 09/14/12 - 06:21 am
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RM1

"It puts what Israel has to deal with in perspective. Maybe we can talk them into expanding their coming attack on Iran." That's not possible. Apparently, the President doesn't have time to talk to Israel.

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soapy_725 09/14/12 - 09:03 am
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The Arab world is setting the stage for the
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Twelfth Mullah. The Arab Messiah (CHRIST) who will bring them to world dominance and destroy all the evil infidels. And the USA is helping set the stage. Middle East intervention to bring peace. And they shall cry peace and safety and sudden destruction shall fall upon them.

Does this have a familiar ring to anyone who tunes in the Christian Prophecy? Parallel universes of faith born of the same concepts of God and his servant Abraham. Ishmael and Isaac. One born of human pride against the will of God and the other a promised child of the will of God. Both blessed with earthly gains, but only one was the "chosen heir".

Both hear of the promised future Messiah who will destroy the unbeliever with sword of his word and establish the "true believers as kings and princes".

Modern families battle with children of multiple marriages. Who is the favorite? Who will receive benefits from the will? Sibling rivalry?

If you believe the Bible, it is not a complicated issue. It is basic human psychology. A hatred born of not being the chosen child. A hatred born and nourished for millennium. A hatred first of Hebrews and then by association, Christians. Both represent an evil perpetrated against the sons of Ismael.

They don't forget old wounds. It is a way of life and a way of growing religious fervor. It will not end. Ideology is to the death.

Both Bible and Koran declare "what communion does belief have with unbelief". So much for their take on bringing everyone to the same table and breaking bread. More like being dragged into the street and severing the head.

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Bizkit 09/14/12 - 07:54 am
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We now see the product of

We now see the product of Obama economic and foreign policies. Just in time for election. Just think if during Bush's reign gas had reached $4, median cost of living took a nose dive, lose our AAA rating, cost of healthcare still out of control, no solution to the mortgage crisis, and ordered the assassination of an american citizen without due process,etc. etc. etc., he would have already been lynched, tar and feathered, and impeached. Given they in Libya had 48 hrs prior notice of a possible threat and there was no real security is inexcusable.

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Fundamental_Arminian 09/14/12 - 07:13 am
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Not insanity, but cold, calculated blowback

    "The insanity you see on naked display in the Arab world today is quite indigenous" (ACES).

I wish the ACES staff hadn't used the word insanity. In the U.S. perpetrators of violence can escape justice when they're declared innocent by reason of insanity. No, the violence in the Mideast isn't insane; it was timed and planned for the 11th anniversary of 9-11. We shouldn't talk as if a multitude of perpetrators have an excuse for their actions.

    "How could Allah deign to approve of such hatred and violence by the people who worship him?" (ACES).

Is the ACES unaware of the Quran's instructions on what to do with infidels?

    "Until the many good people in their midst can take over – and throw off centuries of misogyny and mind control and xenophobia and religious hatred and all-consuming intolerance – then what’s the point of even having an embassy?" (ACES).

How can we be sure there are many good people in the Mideast? Didn't Hamas win when elections were held in Palestine? Why should we think the Muslim Brotherhood or something equivalent to it won't prevail whenever elections are held in Libya, Egypt and other countries we're "liberating."

Our meddling over there has resulted in the unnecessary loss of American lives, not to mention the enormous waste of money. What do we have to show for it? Blowback. We should've listened to Dr. Ron Paul.

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seenitB4 09/14/12 - 07:20 am
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Good article

We are at war ...& some are over here with us.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 09/14/12 - 08:10 am
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What is disgusting is how

What is disgusting is how Obama is trying to politicize and spin this about Romney and premature comments. When we see someone in the Obama administration came out with a reconciliatory message and then ten hours recanted with a strong indignation. Now Holder is investigating some idiot movie maker as though this individual had commented a crime and was somehow at fault for this-when now we see this as a well planned attack long before this idiotic movie. I wonder if he is investigating the South Park folks too. It borders on criminal the incompetence of this administration. How many times has Obama had to recant statements and yet he has the audacity to comment about Mitt being premature with his response to statements related to Libya-boy paint the kettle black. We can't afford a do-over president because we aren't playing marbles. According to Obama we aren't at war, nor do we have an identifiable enemy of any particular ethnicity or religious affiliation-that would be racil profiling and blaming muslims. And the kicker is Obama doesn't know who are allies are and who are enemies are (trying to spin out of this one is just too ridiculous) but it doesn't stop him from sending millions to these entities. The level of incompetence is just terrifying-leaking secrets, etc. Whose side is Obama on?????

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CobaltGeorge 09/14/12 - 08:14 am
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This Question Is Eating Me Alive

Marines Not Permitted Live Ammo

UPDATE: A Marine spokesperson at the Pentagon denied reports that U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition in a statement to Fox News Thursday.

If this was the case, why wasn't the protesters stopped the minute they breached the wall? Why was the Ambassador and 4 Americans killed?

If they weren't permitted live ammo, what the heck are our honorable Marines suppose to do? Shoot Spit balls.

There is really some factual Lies in the King SMNCICBHO administration happening right now.

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CobaltGeorge 09/14/12 - 08:18 am
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Bizkit

"Whose side is Obama on?????"

Common Sense will tell you, He is only on the side of his own Kind!

soapy_725
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soapy_725 09/14/12 - 09:02 am
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The early October Surprise?
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What does our government do to rally support?
Who pays the bills for world conquest?
Who pays the supreme sacrifice?

Remember Tippy Canoe, Bunker Hill, Tripoli, The Alamo, Gettysburg, The Maine, The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Batan Death March, Bay of Pigs, The Berlin Wall, Asian Dominoes, Gulf of Token, Save Israel, The Twin Towers, etc.

The cry goes out, "Over there, over there, there's a job to be done over there. The Yanks are coming, the Yanks are coming......."

Has the shed blood of American men and women brought us peace and safety? At home? In the civilized world? Does the world love us for our sacrifice?

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faithson 09/14/12 - 09:31 am
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mittens politicized, not the President

The President only responded to events on the ground, it was mittens and his neo-con minions who made the strategic decision to politicize the events before the full extent of the violence was known. mittens did himself no good in the eyes of the electorate by inserting his political statement so early into this. Many may say mittens is their 'man', I say he is so 'et up' with himself that his compass points to ANYTHING that he and his people think will promote his candidacy... having no foresight about its ramifications. Not Presidential. Good luck getting the 270 needed to 'win'. In Florida and Virginia, 49 percent of likely voters supported Obama, and 44 percent Romney. In Ohio, 50 percent supported Obama, and 43 percent backed Romney.

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Bizkit 09/14/12 - 09:37 am
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I don't see how you can

I don't see how you can defend the president in this. It isn't about Mitt-he isn't the president. Mitt rightly has called Obama on this as we all should. Given the 9/11 date, the known threat in the region-reliable intel 48 hours before, and the lack of security is inexcusable. We may not be able to stop the violence in the region but surely we could have protected soverign american territory in our consulate and the people who work there. There should have been no lost of American lives as they should have been safe there-no telling what intel could have been stolen and further lost of live that maybe coming because the enemy now has this info. It isn't about Obama per se but about any president who lacks the forethought to have ordered a lockdown or extra security because of a known possible threat. I don't see how you can defend such actions. He is too busy running for president rather than being president. I would like to see progressives defend Bush if he were president now with the same outcome. Some people are blinded by their ideology. The violence we can't control but we can control and protect our soverign territory in Libya and American lives. That didn't happen. All americans should be indignate about this no matter who is president.

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Tullie 09/14/12 - 09:37 am
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CobaltGeorge

What U.S. Marines? According to the U.S. state dept, Marines were not assigned to the consulate compound. The ambassador had a private security detail with him. The Marine security detail were at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli.

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faithson 09/14/12 - 10:00 am
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biz, good point on security

I think the ambassador got caught with his pants down. You would think that He would have taken steps to keep a robust security detail with him, especially on 9/11. It seems that there actually were two different 'actions' that occurred. The first was the demonstration by offended Muslim's to this abhorrent film. The second attack was by a militia group who were well armed and determined to kill Americans, a group the Ambassador obviously did not take into consideration when he exposed himself and his entourage to by being in an unsecured position when events overtook them. As to the President being at fault, that seems a stretch. You would think the diplomatic corp would have certain SOP's in place, especially in the middle east on 9/11 and especially because of the volatile nature demonstrated over the years by these rioters.

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longleafpine 09/14/12 - 10:20 am
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Obama brought this on.

His mealymouthed apologies on his first overseas trip, his inability to stand up to what is right in front of his face and NOT ATTENDING security briefings has given the rest of the world that we have become a weak nation, They no longer think we have the ability to defend ourselves. They will be here again.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 09/14/12 - 10:22 am
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faitsom--i could not agee

faitsom--i could not agee with you anymore...how can you blame somebody who reportedly slept thru the incident...and too busy to be briefed every morning by security advisors..how could he possible be aware of this fluid situation...after all he apologized for us repeatedly** that should have been sufficient..hopey and chagey worked here in 2008 why not in the middle east???????

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 09/14/12 - 10:27 am
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Tullie, Stand Corrected

but now what about Cairo?

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TParty 09/14/12 - 10:55 am
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They have now attacked German

They have now attacked German and British embassies.

Can you imagine the conversation going on around these mobs?

"Hey there, is this the angry mob?"

"HELL YEAH!"

"Perfect! What are we rioting about this time?"

"A movie implies that we're an out of control angry mob"

"What an outrage! LET'S BURN EVERYTHING DOWN"

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faithson 09/14/12 - 10:55 am
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You'all do understand that

You'all do understand that the 'problem' here is the timing of the mittens statement. THE TIMING. When he doubled down in Jacksonville, he exhibited a misunderstanding of the FACTS that is appalling. His arrogance in the face of the facts on the ground diminishes his character. Thinking he had a 'tiger by the tail', he demonstrated that keeping Rush, Ann, Bill Kristol and the neo-con ilk assuaged is the way to show his 'dominance'. You can argue many points here, but calling the President out on a statement made by the embassy prior to the actual violence that occurred is beyond the pale and shows mittens to be a man who is directed by partisanship, not the good of our great nation.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 09/14/12 - 11:10 am
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obumler is an idiot and you

obumler is an idiot and you are blaming romney. the embassy works at his pleasure reprensenting current admistrative views. this adminstration is his and the workings of it belong to him...i

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 09/14/12 - 11:12 am
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you do understand that we are

you do understand that we are reaping what obumler has sown..dont you...

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faithson 09/14/12 - 11:17 am
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nofan

you do understand that we are reaping what 8 years of George Bush has sown.. dont you..

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Bizkit 09/14/12 - 11:34 am
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Faithson even the NYTimes has

Faithson even the NYTimes has posted the embassy's initial appeasement statement which this message had to approved by the Obama administration before being published. The ambassador is an emmissary of the president and represents the presidents policies-so you can bet that message was vetted by someone in the WH. If that isn't the policy then Obama needs to be outted for incompetence. You can't have ambassadors issuing statements willy nilly that may not represent the policy of the president or the best interest of the US. So faithson you will give Obama credit for the Arab Spring but when things go south it's all Bush fault. That argument is beyond lame at this point. Like blaming the economic downturn on Bush is either ignorant or naive because it took a good 20 years for the mortgage crisis to come to fruition. His economic policies had little to do with the mortgage crisis-Barney and Chris had more to do with it if you want to blame someone recently.

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