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White House's relationship with Israel is at a pitiful low

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“Under my administration we haven’t just preserved the unbreakable bond with Israel, we have strengthened it.”

– President Barack Obama

Yes. Relations are so good between the Obama administration and Israel that Mr. Obama’s spokesman, Jay Carney, recently hemmed and hawed and refused to acknowledge that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem.

Two reporters peppered Carney to simply state the capital of Israel at a recent press briefing. He ultimately refused, insisting “our position hasn’t changed,” and that the position was well-known.

The second reporter to ask the question insisted it’s not well-known.

The administration may have dodged the question because the answer is controversial in the Arab world, which lays claim to Jerusalem as well.

But if our “unbreakable bond” with Israel has been “strengthened” under Mr. Obama’s watch, why can’t his administration merely acknowledge the country’s capital?

The answer may not be pleasant for the president’s men to say or for Jewish voters to hear.

Early this year, Aaron David Miller, of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a Middle East negotiator under both Republican and Democratic administrations, opined that “Barack Obama has an Israel problem. ... (T)he U.S.-Israel relationship may be in for a bumpy ride. ...

“Unlike his two predecessors, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, Obama isn’t in love with the idea of Israel.”

Miller also writes of “Obama’s poisonous relationship with Netanyahu. Obama doesn’t like him, doesn’t trust him and views him as a con man.”

So, to say our “unbreakable bond with Israel” is stronger under Obama is a cynical farce.

Why can’t the president’s spokesman even let the name of the Jewish state’s capital pass his lips? Is it that distasteful to this bunch?

This is not an insignificant matter. With an Iranian regime bent on nuclear weapons and on record hoping to wipe Israel off the map, and with the “Arab spring” threatening to evolve into a dark autumn of Muslim extremism, the Jewish state is facing an existential crisis perhaps greater than at any time in its history.

Meanwhile, anti-Semitism is still so rife in the world that the International Olympic Committee refused to observe a moment of silence this year to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the terrorist attack at the Munich Olympics that killed 11 Israeli athletes and coaches.

To this point, the United States has been Israel’s greatest ally and chief protector. But in word and deed, this president has appeared to back away from this special relationship – publicly rebuking Israel for new settlements and calling for a return to its pre-1967 borders. Such things would have been unthinkable by prior U.S. presidents, and for good reason: Israel is the only stable democracy in the entire region, and the only one that shares American values.

The relationship between this administration and Israel is the worst in that country’s turbulent history.

Improving it might start with acknowledging the country’s capital.

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Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/01/12 - 02:08 am
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Washington Post columnist

Washington Post columnist David Ignatius predicted that President Obama would be more aggressive in taking on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a second term. It's well known they don't care for each other.

Netanyahu could hold the upper hand though. If he starts a war with Iran before November and gets us involved, Obama's election chances could dwindle.

Techfan
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Techfan 08/01/12 - 05:45 am
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"Gotcha" question?

My first thought was, "Gee, hasn't the AC editorial staff railed about "gotcha" questions when it applies to the GOP?
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2008/10/02/edi_477869.shtml
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2007/05/05/edi_127337.shtml
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/2006/05/14/edi_81281.shtml

Israel illegally claimed Jerusalem as its capital in 1950 and, even though a signatory to the Oslo Accords, still makes this claim. That being said, ZERO nations have an embassy there. All embassies are in Tel Aviv even though some countries, including the US, maintain a consulate in Jerusalem.

Techfan
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Techfan 08/01/12 - 06:30 am
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While Romney has no qualms

While Romney has no qualms about possibly stirring up tensions in the Middle East, Carney wouldn't give the loony right wing media the satisfaction of stirring the pot. Why are Les Kinsolving (WND) and Connie Lawn (IRN/USA) even allowed in the Press Pool? They are pseudo-journalists from fringe organizations that most definitely aren't news outlets.

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carcraft 08/01/12 - 07:28 am
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Some think freedom of the

Some think freedom of the press only applies to reporters with certain types or political philosophy that match their own!

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 07:47 am
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I can provide video footage

I can provide video footage of this if anyone is interested- however Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak praises Obama for doing "more" for Israeli security than any other U.S. president.

BLITZER: You've studied U.S.-Israeli relations over many years. How would you describe the relationship today?

BARAK: I think that from my point of view as defense minister they are extremely good, extremely deep and profound. I can see long years, administrations of both sides of the political aisle deeply supporting the state of Israel, and I believe that reflects the profound feelings among the American people. But I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing, in regard to our security, more than anything that I can remember in the past.

BLITZER: More than any other president? LBJ, Bill Clinton, or George W. Bush?

BARAK: Yeah, in terms of the support for our security, the cooperation of our intelligence, the sharing of thoughts in a very open way even when there are differences, which are not simple sometimes, I found their support for our defense very stable.

Techfan
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Techfan 08/01/12 - 08:19 am
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Some people think freedom of

Some people think freedom of the press applies to the press, not lying partisan hacks who are prone to print fiction as news, then when called on it, removes the post instead of printing a retraction.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 08/01/12 - 08:24 am
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Oh yeh. Obama supports

Oh yeh. Obama supports Israel. But if they come visit, please go around back to the service entrance.

allhans
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allhans 08/01/12 - 08:40 am
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This is a very delicate

This is a very delicate matter with Obama. Ya know?

RK knows.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 08/01/12 - 08:51 am
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TECH...REALLY?
Unpublished

Is that what Carney did when he refused to refer to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Looked more like he needs to check into a hospital and have a spine installed. And AC, really, you're surprised that a president with a name like BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is friendly to Arab nations and hostile to Israel? Wow, that turnip truck must have been travelling fast!

Angie H
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Angie H 08/01/12 - 08:56 am
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Techfan. In 1492, your

Techfan. In 1492, your ancestors illegally invaded and occupied the Americas. When will you be leaving?

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 08/01/12 - 08:56 am
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Why is one theocratic apartheid state better than any other?

And why do we keep giving Israel money and military aid, when they've consistently refused inspection of their undeclared but very real nuclear arsenal, and are not even a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Do we really owe it to this regime to invite the predictably disastrous consequences of war with Iran?

We either stand for our purported values or we don't. It's time to tell every country in the world that they need to appreciate a few principles if they want anything from us, specifically, that there's no such thing as a good theocracy, no religion is supreme over any other, and no citizen should be considered second-class for any reason. If that offends you, then you're neither a true fiscal conservative nor a sincere champion of the American way.

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Riverman1 08/01/12 - 09:10 am
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TechFan still thinks Edward

TechFan still thinks Edward Klein is fringe. Former NY Times book editor.

You get Obama running around the mideast making these inflamatory speeches in Egypt and other places encouraging rebellion, it's a wonder he doesn't start dropping leaflets to Arabs living in Israel.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/01/12 - 09:10 am
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Just curious, Tech. Can you

Just curious, Tech. Can you state exactly what law Israel violated by declaring their Capitol?

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Granddaddy John 08/01/12 - 10:28 am
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Techfan-You keep watching
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Techfan-You keep watching MSNBC you and old AL have a lot in common along with all the other crazies on there.

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 11:05 am
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The position of the US is

The position of the US is based in part on Res 181 of the UNGA, (The Partition Plan), which was passed in 1947. The resolution recommended the creation of two states, one Arab, one Jewish, both excluding Jerusalem, which was to be a corpus separatum.

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harley_52 08/01/12 - 11:13 am
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It Really Isn't Rocket Science...

....nor is it some kind of deep, dark, mystery.

If you really want to understand the distrust and antagonism Obama holds for Israel in general, and Netanyahu in particular, you need look no further than the Koran, the Sira, and the Hadith.

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 11:17 am
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It's not Rocket science...

...nor is it some kind of deep, dark, mystery- that if you listen to Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak when he says relations are better under Obama.

There are so many things to be against Obama- we do not have to make things up!!!

harley_52
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harley_52 08/01/12 - 12:07 pm
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I Wonder Why....

....so many people think Obama is a Muslim? Eleven percent in the latest poll. Most others aren't sure.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/why_so_many_people_think_obama_is...

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 12:39 pm
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I wonder what the percentage

I wonder what the percentage of those 11% do not believe in evolution and other well established science and facts.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/01/12 - 12:45 pm
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So now the THEORY of

So now the THEORY of Evolution is a well established fact?

Theory: A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something.

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 12:51 pm
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Gravity is a theory too.

Gravity is a theory too.

Biologists consider the existence of biological evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated today and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution.

Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because they have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred.

Angie H
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Angie H 08/01/12 - 12:59 pm
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Ah...but evolution is

Ah...but evolution is different. It takes thousands of years of more to gather "historical evidence" to back it up.

My point was to demonstrate your attempt to paint a group of people into the same corner with statements like "I wonder how many....."

There is certainly reason to believe that Obama is a Muslim, just as there is reason to belive that life-forms evolve. Obama himself has spoken of his muslim faith, and had to be corrected. There is other evidence as well. None of it proves for sure.....just as evolution and other theories have not been proven for sure.

And refering to the THEORY of evolution as a fact is simply not true... A theory is NOT a fact.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/01/12 - 01:16 pm
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Back To Our....

...."pitiful" relationship with Israel under the Obama Administration...

It doesn't help that the President treated the Israeli leader like a goat. Is it just me? No, even that famous rightwing publication the Huffington Post commented on the disgusting treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/26/netanyahu-humiliated-afte_n_514...

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 01:24 pm
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Yeah- we can say it takes

Yeah- we can say it takes millions of years to gather the evidence. This the reason we look for fossils and other historical evidence.

You made no point- and I'm still curious about those wondering if Obama is Muslim also do not believe in well established facts. Romney and McCain don't think Obama is a Muslim. Our GOP leaders!

There is no reason to believe Obama is a Muslim. Since he was baptist as a Christian, goes to a church- married in a church, daughters baptized and Obama doesn't follow any Muslim tenants.

Also, Obama is an American.

Again, I repeat- we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred.

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 01:28 pm
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So a huffington post saying

So a huffington post saying the Israelis are concerned about being bugged means Obama treats the leaders like a goat?

Does Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak word mean anything?

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Bantana 08/01/12 - 01:29 pm
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Riverman wrote:

"Netanyahu could hold the upper hand though. If he starts a war with Iran before November and gets us involved, Obama's election chances could dwindle."

I'd say for certain that if Israel starts a war with Iran...all of our "chances" will dwindle. Only a madman and a fool would consider war with Iran as the only option. Such a conflict would be catastrophic for world markets/stability and could precipitate the "end of times" scenario so many believers of scripture feel is inevitable. While many may long for the final judgement, I don't care for all the rest of us to be facing that just yet in order to satisfy an ancient biblical prophesy.

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harley_52 08/01/12 - 01:36 pm
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Just finished....

....enjoying a superb Chick-fil-A sandwich Mrs. Harley picked up for me while shopping at Target shopping center. She said the place was absolutely mobbed with supporters of Mr. Dan Cathy's agenda and/or his right as a businessman to have an opinion.

TParty
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TParty 08/01/12 - 01:41 pm
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Not to mention the people of

Not to mention the people of Iran (who are pro-American) will turn against everyone, and get behind their leadership, even if they do not like their leaders now- they will rally behind them.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/01/12 - 01:42 pm
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Bantana said....

"I'd say for certain that if Israel starts a war with Iran...all of our "chances" will dwindle. Only a madman and a fool would consider war with Iran as the only option."

What would you say about our "chances" once Iran gets "the bomb?"

The issue really isn't whether or not we will go to war with Iran, it's whether they will already possess "the bomb" (with delivery systems) when we do.

harley_52
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harley_52 08/01/12 - 01:46 pm
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Riverman said....

"If he starts a war with Iran before November and gets us involved, Obama's election chances could dwindle."

What about the chance such a war would prompt Obama to declare a "crisis" so severe he'd have to suspend both the Constitution and the Election?

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