Fighting for voter fraud?

Astoundingly, that's what this Justice Department seems to be doing

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Florida officials are trying to purge their voter lists of noncitizens. Remarkably, the Obama Justice Department is suing to prevent the purge.

Other states are trying to protect their elections’ integrity by tightening up their voter identification requirements. The Obama Justice Department doesn’t like that, either.

While state officials across the country try to bring accuracy and honesty to their voting rolls and ballot boxes, the Obama administration is fighting them tooth and nail. For heaven’s sake, why? What is the department after? Justice? Or just more Democratic-leaning voters?

In an exposé during a recent election, a young white man entered U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder’s polling place and asked if there was a ballot for Holder. The man was offered Holder’s ballot. Holder is a middle-aged African-American, and bears no resemblance to the young man. You would also think Holder would be well known enough that his ballot wouldn’t be offered to someone else.

The election official didn’t ask for the man’s ID, and even appeared nonplussed that the man would insist on showing one.

That’s how loosey-goosey our election system has become.

And so is this: Mozart “Mo” Morris of Bedford County, Va., received a voter registration application in the mail shortly after he would’ve turned old enough to vote.

Problem is, he’s dead.

And a dog.

Television station WSLS learned the form came from the Voter Participation Center, which news reports indicate has ties to far-left organizations.

We looked on the Internet and found similar instances of odd voter registration applications that have allegedly been traced back to the same organization.

But we didn’t have to look on the Internet for skulduggery.

An Augusta man recently received a voter registration mailing similar to one we saw from another suspicious case on the Internet. The mailing to the Augusta man, which came from the Southeast Region of the NAACP, had his name all mixed up. But the form was already filled out with his name (wrong as it was) and correct address. All he had to do was fill out the other information and send it in – and presumably he might’ve been able to vote twice.

We wondered what Augusta’s Board of Elections director, Lynn Bailey, would think of this application. And we wondered if there had been a crime committed. The answer is no.

“Once (a registration application) gets out of our hands, you don’t know what people are going to put on it,” Bailey said.

The good news is that Georgia law requires a citizenship check that includes date of birth and Social Security number, and that weeds out problems. Bailey says a handful of applications a day are kicked out of the system, but always for clerical errors; she says she hasn’t detected any fraud.

But what about states without such citizenship checks? And are all of Georgia’s elections offices as thorough?

Clearly, voter registration is out of control. Making applications more available than a stick of gum isn’t inviting fraud – it’s begging for it.

Then again, the Obama administration seems to be in favor of it.

You have to wonder what’s going on across the country – and if there is a concerted effort to steal elections under the nose of a largely unobservant electoral system.

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BloodySunday
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BloodySunday 06/24/12 - 11:51 pm
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News editor want print the

News editor want print the truth about the voting scheme in progress right now in Florida and other states by Karl Rove and Republican elected official. An election year always brings schemes to supress minority voter turnout. But this year, we are facing a coordinated lavishly funded push to disenfranchise African Americans nationwide. After record voter turnout in 2008, more than 30 Republican - controlled states introduced voter suppression legislation. In 2011, 25 laws that would block the voting rights of African - American, elderly,young, and disabled voters were passed -often in the very same states that experienced high rats of minority voter turnout in 2008. The alarming return of Jim Crow - era voting restrictions coincides with public schools across America being re-segregated into separate and unequal systems...minority families falling farther behind economically due to higher unemployment and predatory lending practices. One hundred years ago...African Americans could not vote, let alone run for office or stand a chance of being elevated to the highest office in the land. Reducing early voting, numerous states - including Ohio, Georgia, Florida and West Virginia - have reduced early or absentee voting periods, making it harder and harder for people just to cast a ballot. These outrageous attempts to suppress the vote are all promoted under the pretext of preventing voter fraud and safeguarding election integrity. But aside from the occasional unproven anecdote or baseless allegation, conservative supporters of these laws have been unable to show that voter fraud is a problem anywhere in the country. As long as Republican - controlled states keep passing voter suppression legislation, subtle or overt, exists in our society, the Department of Justice will be needed to keep striving to erase every vestige of bigotry and promote healing of old wounds.

Insider Information
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Insider Information 06/25/12 - 12:27 am
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Just a few questions...

1) Bloodysunday, why is that Georgia's minority voting hit a record in 2008 despite what you term a voter "suppression" law?

2) Why does the Obama campaign require IDs to attend campaign events? No ID, no entry.

3) Why is it that proponents of these laws can list examples of voter fraud ad nauseum (some listed here to the point of absurdity), but an example of true voter suppression remains as elusive as bigfoot or the lochness monster?

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 06/25/12 - 12:38 am
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Yeah, that's it!

The Republicans are discriminating against the corporeally disadvantaged, stealing ballots from multiple personalities and keeping out the life-impaired. That is evil.

It also cuts down considerably on reliably Democratic voters.

desertcat6
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desertcat6 06/25/12 - 02:22 am
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Wow, just, wow. If it wasn't

Wow, just, wow. If it wasn't so sad that liberals were spreading and believing this stuff, it would be funny.

Jon Lester
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Jon Lester 06/25/12 - 03:19 am
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You either care that 90-year-old WW2 veterans are being purged,

or you don't. This has actually happened in Florida. What do you have to say about that?

copperhead
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copperhead 06/25/12 - 05:44 am
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Why would any sane person

Why would any sane person want only citizens to vote in our elections? That is THE most absurd thing ever! We must let anyone that can sneak into the U.S. have a voice in their government! And we can't omit dogs(even dead ones)! Wonder if i can get my cats(all republicans)registered to vote?

carcraft
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carcraft 06/25/12 - 05:45 am
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Jon Lester- You can cast a

Jon Lester- You can cast a provisional ballot in many of these states and then bring the proper identification to have your ballot counted. It was funny a few years back in Atlanta. Some women claimed she didn't have proper Identification and couldn't vote. The judge had her empty her purse and she had a Marta picture ID that was acceptable so the case was thrown out. Isn't it interesting that Obama blocks Arizona from enforcing immigration laws, wants to stop Florida from enforcing and implementing voter laws, is fighting to block the implementation of voter ID and has refused to enforce immigration laws? It would appear Obama wants to make and decide what laws to enforce, you know sorta like a dictator instead of a coequal branch of the American Republic!

Fundamental_Arminian
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Fundamental_Arminian 06/25/12 - 06:53 am
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Mandatory voting without voter identification

I've read that Peter Orszag, former head of the Obama Office of Management and Budget, wants our nation to have mandatory voting. It's not hard to imagine what will happen if the Justice Department compels everybody to vote but prohibits states from requiring voter identification.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 06/25/12 - 07:24 am
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No ID Required

You shouldn't have to produce an ID for anything in America. Not to get welfare, Medicare, to vote, get VA benefits, social security or cash a check. It's all designed to keep Democrats out. You should not have to show a driver's license if stopped driving. Voting should be done on a Facebook page beside Kim Kardashian's. The most hits wins.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 06/25/12 - 07:56 am
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Not True

Bloody Sunday posted:

One hundred years ago...African Americans could not vote, let alone run for office . . . .

One hundred years ago was 1912. Bloody Sunday's assertion is completely false.

Freeatlast
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Freeatlast 06/25/12 - 08:01 am
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It's not just the Department of Justice you need to worry about.

Over the past 12 months, the ACLU has been involved in 28 voting rights lawsuits in 18 states. This the most lawsuits every filed after the 2008 election when the people elected the first Black president. After President Obama was sworn into office in 2009, Republicans challenged the Voting Rights Act in federal court ,but they lost that battle. ACLU have already won court battles in Virginia and Missouri, and they're pursing our pivotally important case in Wisconsin. ACLU lobbying efforts have also helped prevent the passage of unjust laws in Arkansas, Colorado, Minnesota, New Hampshire and North Carolina. But, cynical, underhanded efforts to block the vote continue to escalate across the nation. ACLU, DOJ will remain active and alert in every state right through Election Day.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 08:07 am
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Freeatlast, what is unjust
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Freeatlast, what is unjust about a law that requires you to show an ID that is provided free of charge, in order to vote? Please explain. Explain how that blocks people from voting, who are authorized to vote.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 08:08 am
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The DOJ will remain active
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The DOJ will remain active and alert on election day? Is this the same DOJ that refuses to procecute the Black panthers for voter intimitadion?

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/25/12 - 08:13 am
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Notice that no one is

Notice that no one is defending the Justice Dept. How can they? All the dems can do is try to say that the repubs. are bad.

Love it when the liberal mind has no facts, so it desperately tries to find something to criticize -- usually something that happened so long ago that it really has no bearing on reality today.

But this is all you can do when you try to defend the truly indefensible.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 08:19 am
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And they NEVER explain how it
Unpublished

And they NEVER explain how it violates anyone's voting rights to be required to show a FREE ID......NEVER.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/25/12 - 08:30 am
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LIBERALS, MAKE UP YOUR MIND!
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You screamed voter fraud when that idiot Al Gore lost Florida in 2000. Numerous re-counts later, that always said Bush won, you STILL screamed voter fraud. Now, here's a way to prevent it, and you object to that! Man, talk about lack of logic!

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/25/12 - 08:31 am
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No complaint about showing an

No complaint about showing an ID for a free turkey. That's OK. It's a freebie. But no way should integrity in the voting process be maintained. That infringes upon my rights.

The mindset is either willfully dishonest and hypocritical, or is simply too ignorant to see reality. Which is it?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 06/25/12 - 08:48 am
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Priorities! It should be we

Priorities! It should be we protect the majority of votes by eliminating voter fraud than worry about a few disenfranchised that we can address and fix if need be. The logic is now dang the majority over a concern about a "possible" few disenfranchised. Makes no sense that anyone could argue against voter fraud, but that is really what the Dems are arguing. Makes you question their integrity-or is the plan to flood the system with false Obama votes????? Obviously the Dems have been stuffing ballots for decades and such dishonesty is unbecoming. If I were disenfranchised I would glady do so knowing the majority were secure-its a sacrifice I would gladly make, but I would not want my vote at the cost of the integrity of the whole system. The basic idea to understand is that the concern about disenfranchised voters is smoke and mirrors as their concern is they can still get away with manipulating the system.

allhans
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allhans 06/25/12 - 08:57 am
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Why do people continue to

Why do people continue to portray African-Americans as a helpless group of voters. I never heard complaints from those same people after Obama won. No recounts demanded by any state.....

Owning a computer I will vouch for the fact that ever so often you have to purge old records. My system is set up to delete old data automatically. Would the writer think that is wrong.
The blacks are not helpless, hopeless victims, and I don't appreciate this continual "helping them" by placing any American in such a category.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 06/25/12 - 09:03 am
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"Why do people continue to

"Why do people continue to portray African-Americans as a helpless group of voters." I know, right? You would think it would be very embarrassing and insulting. It probably is to some.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 06/25/12 - 09:05 am
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why is it that at the local

why is it that at the local convience store where i buy my adult beverages everyone is ID...NO ONE ever seems put out about that... no cries of racism or discrimination...yet we sue states for same request at the voting booth...

Bizkit
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Bizkit 06/25/12 - 09:20 am
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The idea of the ID is to

The idea of the ID is to ensure voting and make sure the majority aren't disenfranchised. You have to have an ID to buy a drink or drive a car-voting is much more important and needs to have integrity. The only logical conclusion is Dems want to be able to intimidate voters and manipulate the system. Blatant dishonesty. You have to have a voter registration card so why not an ID too. I remember attending UGA in the 70's and you had to have a photoID to take your exams-because of paid ringers to take exams. A photoID is a no brainer simple way to maintain the integrity of the system, and allowances or mechanisms can be placed to address the few slackards.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 09:29 am
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Still no one explaining how
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Still no one explaining how requiring a free ID will deny anyone a vote?

TParty
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TParty 06/25/12 - 09:35 am
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Every American citizen 18 or

Every American citizen 18 or over has a constitutional right to vote. Impediments put up to prevent people from voting are unconstitutional.

The Bush Administration spent 5 years and 70 million of our tax dollars trying to prove that voter fraud is a real danger to democracy in the US. Then they tried to hide the results that we paid for. Eventually it came that there is no evidence that voter fraud causes elections to go to the wrong candidate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=all

Whereas election fraud where election officials change votes or prevent eligible voters from voting does change the outcome of elections. Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris' purging of thousands mostly black eligible voters in Florida allowed George W to win by about 500 votes.

In a recent Wisconsin state supreme court election, after the democratic candidate won, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus, a former Republican legislative staffer suddenly found 14,000 votes on her laptop at home and overturned the election giving it to the Republican candidate who she used to work for (she also worked with now Gov. Scott Walker at the time). She had a history of equally suspicious handling of election results.

Election fraud by election officials where they either deliberately miscount votes or otherwise disenfranchise voters' rights (such as denying groups of voters their right to vote) is the real danger to democracy in America. Not individual voter fraud.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 09:37 am
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How is requiring someone to
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How is requiring someone to show a FREE id considered putting up an impediment to vote?

TParty
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TParty 06/25/12 - 09:43 am
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Last Summer Scott Walker,

Last Summer Scott Walker, signed into law an ID requirement. In and of itself, this is fine, so long as the IDs are provided free of charge and with next to no hassle.

This was not the case, however. DMV employees were instructed NOT to inform people that they could get their IDs for free.

In the midst of that kerfuffle, the Walker administration also pursued a policy change that would close ten DMV locations in traditionally Democratic regions in order to extend hours in other regions. He was, in short, trying to make it harder for people who would vote against him to acquire an ID.

You can be in favor of voter IDs for all the right reason, and I commend you if that's true. But be aware that the people pushing the voter ID laws across the country are not doing it to save democracy; they're doing it to suppress people that disagree with them. They are ALEC, and you're knowingly or unknowingly their foot-soldier in their fight to gain further corporate control of the government.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 09:46 am
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If you can register to vote,
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If you can register to vote, you can get an ID. Any attempt to try to say that it is an impediment, is simply rationalizing voter fraud, and knowingly or unknowingly supporting voting by dead people.

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 06/25/12 - 09:50 am
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Provide FREE ID's to anyone

Provide FREE ID's to anyone who needs them.
But, what percentage of folks don't have ANY photo ID? It has to very low -- I mean, how could they get their free turkey?
Seems like complaints about voter ID's are nothing more than a smokescreen to insure illegal and unethical voting and help elect officials that cannot be elected based upon their own merit.

Southern Leslie
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Southern Leslie 06/25/12 - 09:50 am
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Curious that you can say
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Curious that you can say there is no evidence of individual voter fraud, when no ID is required. How would you know that there was no fraud if you never checked? Besides, even if there was no fraud, is that a reason to keep it from happening? I mean the assault weapons ban of the 90's banned bayonette lugs on rifles. Was there wide spread bayonette attacks?

burninater
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burninater 06/25/12 - 09:53 am
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It would appear Obama wants

It would appear Obama wants to make and decide what laws to enforce, you know sorta like a dictator instead of a coequal branch of the American Republic!
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A coequal branch exercising the powers granted it by the Constitution actually is not sorta like a dictatorship. It's sorta like a Constitutional Republic.

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