Appetite for power

Mayor's proposed ban on large sugary drinks smacks of dictatorship

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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg wants to put a lid on everyone else’s sugary drinks. Someone get that guy away from the Powerade! He’s gotten drunk on it!

Apparently, the fat-crusading mayor has the power to ban large sodas and other high-calorie sugary drinks over 16 ounces in his city’s restaurants, arenas and theaters – if the Board of Health agrees.

And he appointed the board.

First of all, this is waaaaaaaaay too much power for one man to have in a free country. What’s next? Big burgers? And why exempt large milkshakes?

Once you let a nanny loose in the kitchen, there’s no end to the potential proscriptions.

Even a benign dictator is still a dictator.

Mayors and governors and presidents may use their prestige and pulpits to preach all they like about what to eat and drink. But they step over a line that most Americans will defend with their lives, much less their waistlines, when they start taking away our freedoms.

Yes, America has a staggering weight problem. Yes, our penchant for sugary drinks the size of gasoline pumps is problematic. But Mr. Bloomberg’s appetite for regulating what folks eat and drink is not only un-American, it’s impossible – at least in a free country.

And it’s an invitation to rank hypocrisy. Exhibit A: The New York CBS station reported Friday that, after going on television to defend his proposed big-drink ban, “The mayor is expected to share a signed proclamation ... honoring the 75th annual National Donut Day at Madison Square Park where the largest box of Entenmann’s Donuts ever created will be unveiled.”

“It doesn’t sound ridiculous,” the mayor said about the doughnut duplicity. “In moderation, most things are OK.”

Right. So he’s not banning any drinks (yet), just telling you how much you can have.

But when will there be a cap on doughnut purchases? A three-day waiting period for pizza? A monthly limit on licks of ice cream?

Sound ridiculous? What’s the difference between those things and what Mayor Bloomberg wants to put in place?

Americans may have a problem with willpower. But some people have even bigger problems with power.

And that’s worse.

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JohnBrownAug
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JohnBrownAug 06/01/12 - 11:10 pm
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"What are you in for?""I put

"What are you in for?"

"I put 20 oz of soda in a cup."

The other thing Mayor Bloomberg is known for is MAIG, an anti-gun organization. The group is advocating against HR 822, the National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act, which has nearly 250 co-sponsors in the U.S. House. Mayor Copenhaver is a member of MAIG, also. Let's hope he doesn't get on this kick to limit the size of sodas, too, like Bloomberg.

Techfan
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Techfan 06/02/12 - 04:55 am
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I would think the food

I would think the food industry would love it. "What, I can only get a 16 oz drink? Gimme 2, wait, make that three."

desertcat6
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desertcat6 06/02/12 - 06:14 am
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Yup, we,d have to increase

Yup, we,d have to increase the number of cup holders too. Big money in adding robotic arms/hands to hold them. This could be the stimulus we've all been waiting for...

omnomnom
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omnomnom 06/02/12 - 06:23 am
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Oh man. The battles ya'll

Oh man. The battles ya'll choose to fight. Okay. Lets just allow warrantless wire-tapping, and police to strip search us for any arrest (regardless of reason) but DON'T YOU LAY A FINGER ON MY BUTT...ERFINGER.

I'm American and that means I can overindulge if I want to! Its my right!
What?

Its the same thing when y'all whined about San Francisco banning toys in happy meals. What the heck? ACES, I guess ya'll just kids at heart?

As I said then, its another city, another state. They make their rules, we make ours. Heck, a year or so ago you couldn't walk into some of the area Wal-Marts on Sunday morning to buy support hose or what have you.

If New Yorkers don't want it. Let them fight it.

Augusta is not involved.

JohnBrownAug
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JohnBrownAug 06/02/12 - 06:47 am
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I say let's all go out and

I say let's all go out and drink a little liquor, sodas bigger than allowed, listen to Merle and shoot come guns at endangered species after spreading used motor oil on the ants.

draksig
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draksig 06/02/12 - 07:12 am
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Movie theaters in NYC will

Movie theaters in NYC will have to include an intermission period for buying more drinks. I wonder if anything in this new law would restrict unlimited refills.

I read somewhere that the mayor said if the size limits effects the businesses profits, they can just raise the prices of the smaller drinks.

Jane18
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Jane18 06/02/12 - 08:35 am
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Oversized drinks and ants

First of all, who can drink over 16 ozs. in one sitting? That's a lot!! Anyway, as long as Bloomberg keeps his goofy ideas in N.Y., that's fine with me. To JohnBrownAug, you do not spread the "used" motor oil. First, a hole is made with a stick or rod at least 2 feet long by going into the ant hill very carefully. When the tool easily goes down into the hill, remove the tool, and then the oil is poured into that hole. As I said the other day, this has worked for me every time.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 06/02/12 - 08:40 am
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Yep...too funny

Sometimes you just can't believe what they will ban next....barefoot in the park.......maybe just smiling at another.....laughing on the streets.....this could get out of hand --:)

Insider Information
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Insider Information 06/02/12 - 09:00 am
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Up next? Slavery

When dumb people like Bloomberg realize that banning things isn't working, they will then turn to required exercise.

Get ready to do some hard time when they chain you to a tread mill, jack it up 10 miles an hour and "whip" you into shape.

Again, I thought libs were "pro-choice".

harley_52
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harley_52 06/02/12 - 09:06 am
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I haven't tried it, but I

I haven't tried it, but I suspect the "motor oil" treatment for fire ant hills might be effective, at least for the particular mound being so treated. They'll most likely move fifteen or twenty feet and build a new mound with a new queen.

Beyond that, I suspect it's illegal to pour used motor oil onto (or into) the earth. I suspect there's a substantial fine involved so it's probably not a good idea to be admitting it on here.

Not that I'm against it, just a caution that some government spooks might be watching.

harley_52
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harley_52 06/02/12 - 09:12 am
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"If New Yorkers don't want

"If New Yorkers don't want it. Let them fight it.

Augusta is not involved."

Reminds me of the story about the guy who's in the pond with about fifteen other people and one big (and hungry alligator. He has no problem with the alligator because it has always left him alone. As the population of fifteen then fourteen, thirteen, twelve.......dwindles, when it gets to three, then two, it becomes apparent to him that perhaps he should have paid a little more attention to that alligator who's now starting to focus a little more attention his way.

Just because the problem doesn't affect you (yet) it doesn't mean you should ignore it.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 06/02/12 - 09:40 am
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"spreading used motor oil on

"spreading used motor oil on the ants."

Hey, does that work?

I notice Bloomberg didn't ban 40 oz. beers. About the same calories as a 32 oz. coke. Bloomberg is a nosey do-gooder liberal hypocrite.

Okay let's see.....they've taken "trans fats" out of our food and everything tastes like crap and costs more. They've forced ethanol into our gasoline and the cars get less mileage, have more maintenance problems, the gas costs more, and the forced use of corn in gasoline has increased the cost of food products. They've crucified smokers and people are still smoking but the price has increased more than 10 fold. Now they are dictating how much soft drink you can buy in one container so that you will buy 2 and pay twice as much. Folks, do you see a pattern here? When government "dictates" your personal lifestyle the only thing that happens is that your costs go up.

What will crusaders like Bloomberg "ban" next? Quarter pounders? Double meat whopper with cheese? Large fries? How far will you let the crusaders and busy bodies go? You know, we would all lose weight if we eliminated cars and buses. A little walking everywhere we went would shed those 32 oz. soda pounds. I imagine there are some folks down on the poor side of town that could shed a few pounds if we shaved those EBT cards a little and banned the 40 oz. beers. Maybe Bloomberg could just dictate an automatic doubling of the prices of groceries. That should slim folks down a little. How far will you let nutcases like Bloomberg and the rest of the crusaders push you before you push back......hard.

harley_52
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harley_52 06/02/12 - 10:07 am
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dichotomy said "Folks, do you

dichotomy said "Folks, do you see a pattern here? When government "dictates" your personal lifestyle the only thing that happens is that your costs go up."

An excellent observation, my friend.

It explains, quite astutely, why Ted Kennedy wasn't prosecuted for leaving Mary Jo Kopechne to drown, why O.J. was found not guilty of murdering his wife, how John Edwards did all the rotten things he did, but got away with it, how so many politicians can do all the rotten, illegal things they do and walk away scott free.......but us "regular" people get the book thrown at us every time we make the slightest transgression. M O N E Y..... If you have enough money (including the ability to give away taxpayer money) you can do just about anything and get away with it.

You can have that giant slurpee in New York, you just have to be willing to pay the price. You can smoke all the cigarettes you want, if you're willing to pay the price. Drive a gas guzzler, set your air conditioning at 62 degrees.....you name it. Pay up and have at it.......

Insider Information
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Insider Information 06/02/12 - 10:20 am
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@ omnomnom

"If New Yorkers don't want it. Let them fight it.

Augusta is not involved."

By your logic, terrorists haven't attacked Augusta, so why should we care?

We should care because we are one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

TParty
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TParty 06/02/12 - 10:38 am
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The amount of holes in

The amount of holes in Bloomberg's (Micheal Savage on the radio called him 'Doomberg'. Thought that was funny). supposedly logic is a fun exercise to play with. It's funny to grab all the things you can continue to indulge on, and compare that to this ban. Even that very liberal Jon Stewert had a great skit on this dumb ban.

It's easy to see how silly this is. The same problems with this soda ban can be applied to other items like alcohol which is still banned from being purchased on Sundays in Ga. It can even be applied to things which the government tells us is illegal like marijuana. I hope ACES is against all prohibition, since they summed it nicely by basically saying 'Yeah, we know it's not good for us, but that's for us individuals to decide. Not the government.'

Jake
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Jake 06/02/12 - 11:35 am
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Stuffed sausages

The only ban I am in favor of is the public wearing of Spandex on people who clearly weigh over 200 lbs.

omnomnom
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omnomnom 06/02/12 - 11:40 am
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thank you for equating

thank you for equating terrorists with beverages. i'm going to be scared of Dr. Pepper now

Stercus accidit
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Stercus accidit 06/02/12 - 11:45 am
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"‎"My body, my choice! Right?

"‎"My body, my choice! Right? Hello? Crickets from the left..."

Te problem is that your choice becomes our problem if you can't demonstrate moderation and become obese, in turn adding to the rising cost of healthcare.

If you agree to pay for all of your problems out of pocket, sure, it's all good. But the fact well more that 50% of Americans will rely on Medicare/Medicaid at some time or have to visit an ER and go through indignant care to pay for it. I don't think people quite grasp the fact that just because they didn't have to pay that someone else isn't. Do we have that much of a disconnect in this country???

It's time for Americans to learn to make proper lifestyle choices that don't cost the taxpayers billions of dollars. Obviously trying to educate us and hope we do it on our own isn't working as the problem continues to grow rather then lower even with all of the facts out there. Perhaps we need these laws. Most diseases in this country are lifestyle related. The majority of Americans are fat and lazy slobs. The truth hurts doesn't it?

BESIDES....

The law is for vendors, NOT CONSUMERS. You can buy 500 16 oz. drinks with this law and drink them on the spot if you want. You can still purchase any size drink from a grocery store. There is no law against you ingesting these beverages in any shape or size.

And regardless, I'm a pretty staunch liberal and this law is absurd to the maximum - but not for any reasons you all would state. It's absurd because it doesn't make sense, it won't work and it solves nothing. It has nothing to do with "your body" because the law doesn't prevent you from doing anything with your body.

How can people be so blatantly, outright stupid?"

omnomnom
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omnomnom 06/02/12 - 11:47 am
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Discriminatory practices on

Discriminatory practices on commercial products have been in place for decades. You can't advertise tobacco on TV. You once could. Lawyers were banned from making commercials. Now James T. Kirk is hawking legal aid. Our free-trade agreement has been in effect nationwide for over a decade and we see the result it has had on domestic industry. However, this nudge to give consumers a healthier (well, smaller at least) alternative will obviously throw New York restaurants and retail establishments for a loop. Where oh where will they find smaller cups to accomodate this authoritarian overreach?!

Heaven help us. Our KFC double-downs may be next.

Stercus accidit
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Stercus accidit 06/02/12 - 12:23 pm
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When I have to pay for the

When I have to pay for the diabetes meds, lap band operations, and other associated costs just because someone can't seem to live without a 32 oz coke or pick an apple over fries maybe they do need some oversight until they can act like a responsible adult.

Stercus accidit
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Stercus accidit 06/02/12 - 12:24 pm
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Anybody can buy two. You

Anybody can buy two. You seem to be among the zillion people not understanding that this regulation is for business, not customers. They can still buy as much as they want, they just have to put another quarter of a second's worth of effort into it.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 06/02/12 - 01:10 pm
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Stercus accidit

It is sure a pleasure to hear such common sense from a staunch Liberal.

JohnBrownAug
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JohnBrownAug 06/02/12 - 01:15 pm
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Stercus, so your logic is

Stercus, so your logic is it's okay because you can still get the bigger drink, but you just have to work a little harder to get it? Something doesn't compute. We can educate the public all we want, but we shouldn't impose government on their ability to buy the food they want.

JohnBrownAug
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JohnBrownAug 06/02/12 - 01:21 pm
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When did CNN Headline News

When did CNN Headline News change its format to resemble something that looks like the Oprah Channel in summer reruns?

Insider Information
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Insider Information 06/02/12 - 01:50 pm
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Thank you, Stercus!

Thank you showing why government involvement in healthcare is a slippery slope.

When the government (i.e. the taxpayer) is involved, it opens the door for the government to regulate what you eat, what you buy, what medicines you take and what private medical decisions are made between you and your dietitian.

JohnBrownAug
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JohnBrownAug 06/02/12 - 01:58 pm
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I've got an idea. Let's just

I've got an idea. Let's just put chips in everyone so they will only want 16 oz of soda and no more? We could program the chip for anything we wanted.

omnomnom
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omnomnom 06/02/12 - 02:32 pm
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make mine sour crean and

make mine sour cream and onion

KSL
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KSL 06/02/12 - 02:55 pm
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The tired old progressive

The tired old progressive idea that people are too stupid to make their own decisions about eating (what about other risky behavior?), but first make them dependent on someone else (you stercus, the government, union insurance plans) so big brother can step in and control them.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/02/12 - 03:58 pm
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BLOOMBERG
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Like Obama, Bloomberg is a typical big government liberal. They want government in our lives, unless it steps on THEIR toes.

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