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There's more to the Fluke birth-control dust-up than most media are telling

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There are more important issues for the country to move on to. But just a few more words to bring perspective to the Rush Limbaugh-birth control rowdy-dow, because some folks would love for the presidential election to turn on this silliness.

First, while Limbaugh was way out of bounds to call Georgetown University student Sandra Fluke what he did, she’s not exactly innocent road kill. In fact, it appears she’s pretty much a professional left-wing activist who, writes The Washington Post, “researched the Jesuit college’s health plans for students before enrolling, and found that birth control was not included” and proceeded to lobby for it for three years. In short, she appears to have enrolled for the singular purpose of trying to force birth control on the Catholic school.

Moreover, even liberal Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers, bless her fair-minded self, notes that left-wing extremists such as Bill Maher,
Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann have essentially waged a misogynistic war on women – but that, “Boycotts are reserved for people on the right.”

Maher alone has called conservative women the most vulgar names possible for a woman’s private parts. But no outrage. Instead, he’s a big donor to President Obama’s super PAC, which has gladly accepted the cash.

Just a little perspective.

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carcraft
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carcraft 03/06/12 - 11:39 pm
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Right on point- if Fluke gets

Right on point- if Fluke gets in the kitchen she had better be able to stand some heat..

Retired Army
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Retired Army 03/07/12 - 12:03 am
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One has to wonder what this

One has to wonder what this editorial might have been had it been the daughter of a member of the ACES who had been attacked in such a vile manner.

Trying to mitigate in any way or using the tactic of "they did it too" is deceiving, churlish and immature. Americans are not buying it and neither should this editorial staff.

Bill Maher is incendiary to say the least. He is also a self admitted well paid standup comedian who does not have sponsors. That's about as self serving capitalistic as you can get. Rush Limbaugh on the other hand pretends to be the voice of reason and a leader of the conservative movement who consistently claims to have the moral high ground. This gives us the choice to be aligned with foul mouthed honesty or foul mouthed hypocrisy. What is your choice to be?

Remember, Bill Maher lost his job with network television as punishment for his political leanings. He survives in the public arena because folks pay to watch him. Don Imus lost his job over the infamous "Nappy Headed Ho's" statement and probably will never recover the standing he once enjoyed having been banned to Satellite radio hell. Is "El Rushbo" above such treatment? Let's see if his loyal Dittohead followers are willing to suport him with subscription dollars.

As of this evening nine major corporations have suspended their advertising dollars with Rush Limbaugh at the behest of millions of shocked and angry Americans. Ah yes! The all American marketplace at work. Free speach from the pocketbook.

faithson
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faithson 03/07/12 - 01:11 am
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been waiting for this one...

been waiting for this one... Micheal, Micheal; do you understand the philosophical conundrum you find yourself in by calling out this young lady because of her previous activism. Your conundrum is not calling out the 6 men that testified before the Issa committee hearing. To imagine that these 'men of the cloth' did not have an AGENDA in their testimony is ludicrous. You would call out this young lady for her position on contraception pretending that those who did testify are neutral on the subject. YOU like it both ways Mike, but intellectually your being dishonest.

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itsanotherday1 03/07/12 - 01:17 am
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ACES is spot on. So is RA in

ACES is spot on. So is RA in the respect that Rush needs to face whatever music his words bring him. As far as him being a leader of the conservative movement, he is no more a leader for conservatives than Maher is for liberals. Both are paid entertainers with an opinion.

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desertcat6 03/07/12 - 04:26 am
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Itsaday, Right on.

Itsaday, Right on.

copperhead
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copperhead 03/07/12 - 06:02 am
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So,hussein sent her there

So,hussein sent her there right after being elected. Shows just how dishonest he is! This was his plan all along. He knew that this would become an issue even then! Talk about plotting a course!

Techfan
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Techfan 03/07/12 - 06:14 am
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Interesting editorial, coming

Interesting editorial, coming from the same paper that supported the Southern Baptists' boycott of Disney.

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Riverman1 03/07/12 - 06:21 am
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Interesting comments, coming

Interesting comments, coming from the Obama administration, the same bunch that apologized to the Muslims, even though they killed Americans.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/07/12 - 06:22 am
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Has anyone seen Chris

Has anyone seen Chris Matthews go off on Michelle Bachman? It's unreal. He has some kind of fantasy fascination, attraction, hate for her.

copperhead
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copperhead 03/07/12 - 06:29 am
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Want to speculate on who paid

Want to speculate on who paid this professional student/agitator? Who paid her tuition? Be will to bet it was one of hussein's rich buddies.

Techfan
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Techfan 03/07/12 - 06:46 am
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Conspiracy theorists don't

Conspiracy theorists don't tend to have a very good grasp on reality.

carcraft
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carcraft 03/07/12 - 09:05 am
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Ah, I remember when Joe the

Ah, I remember when Joe the plumber asked Obama about redistributing the wealth. Private government files were leaked to the press AND PUBLISHED, his past and life story were made an issue, and he was smeared. Gees, Fluke's lucky she isn't asking a liberal presidential candidate a question about his plans that don't gee ha with the press's image building for the candidate, let’s get a grip here folks!

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KSL 03/07/12 - 07:50 am
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I don't believe the reason

I don't believe the reason Rush called her what he did was because she was lobbying for contraception to be paid for by insurance. It was because of her sharing her "dirty laundry" as a justification for it. She opened herself right up for it. I personally don't care how one behaves privately, as long as it is legal. But you had better believe there are still plenty of people who will pass moral judgment on you if you publicly flaunt it.

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TParty 03/07/12 - 08:40 am
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KSL: What was her dirty

KSL: What was her dirty laundry she shared?

carcraft
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carcraft 03/07/12 - 09:09 am
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Tparty that she has so much

Tparty that she has so much sex she needs $3,000 dollars a year to cover he birth control costs. Birth control pills run about $30-$35/ month with a cost of about $420/ year, Fluke claims she needs $3,000! doesn't add up.

TParty
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TParty 03/07/12 - 10:00 am
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Carcraft: Birth control

Carcraft:

Birth control doesn't work the way you just described it... And there are other birth control measures other than the pill.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 03/07/12 - 10:02 am
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IF....the Obamacare free

IF....the Obamacare free birth control and abortion provisions stand....does this mean we can zero out all government funding for Planned Parenthood and similar organizations that suck government dollars for these same purposes?

Does this mean that the 30 year old Ms. Fluke can exit her career of being a full time college "student" crusader and actually get a real job? Isn't it amazing that the free stuff crusaders never work and pay taxes.

TParty
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TParty 03/07/12 - 10:05 am
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And I'll just say this now.

And I'll just say this now. Ms. Fluke was arguing that hormone pills should be covered under Georgetowns insurance, and doing so would have saved her friends ovary and prevented a costly operation. She gave other examples of what other women are going through- she did not mention own needs. And to get birth control, from my understanding, there are pelvic exams and what now, which also costs money.

Fluke did not bring up any of her own 'dirty laundry'.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/07/12 - 10:14 am
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KSL wrote: I don't believe

KSL wrote:

I don't believe the reason Rush called her what he did was because she was lobbying for contraception to be paid for by insurance. It was because of her sharing her "dirty laundry" as a justification for it. She opened herself right up for it.

Normally, sex is not dirty. But in the case of the law student turned Obamacare shill; it probably is.

impossible
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impossible 03/07/12 - 10:42 am
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There is an obvious
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There is an obvious difference between Fluke testifying for taxpayers to fund sexual entertainment and the "men of the cloth" who testified on behalf of religious freedom - the constitution - unalienable God-given rights. Has anyone besides me noaticed in some of the remarks herein a clear animus against religion, particularly against the Catholic Church? When someone protests too much, is it reasonable to consider what their underlying motive(s) might be?

Liberals just love to use exceptions to make the rule - the old trick of getting the Camel's nose under the tent.

Has anyone noticed the harsh rhetoric used by some who then go on to condemn harsh rhetoric? So, what's new? Left wing ravings, no matter how vile, are acceptable. One of Rush's ex-adveratisers' stock went down 12% the next day - Carbonite. Yes!!!!

impossible
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impossible 03/07/12 - 10:52 am
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Since when does hardball from
Unpublished

Since when does hardball from Obama and his pals translate to "at the behest of millions of Americans?" Less bias, more facts please. Given Obama's heavy-handed reign, the advertisers who withdrew from Rush were frightened about what might follow from the IRS and other overreaching by the totalitarians in power.

impossible
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impossible 03/07/12 - 10:50 am
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The "quality of reason is not
Unpublished

The "quality of reason is not strained," "it floweth like a gentle dew"....from the mouths of those connected to reality.

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David Parker 03/07/12 - 11:32 am
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Maher makes more sense than

Maher makes more sense than most of the jokers on the tv. Probably b/c of reason. He isn't bent on conjouring up religion to communicate and support his POV. Cause when you wipe all the tenets away, you are left with a simple person. That person should have an independent mind that affords them the ability to come up with organic ideas and beliefs. If those ideas parallel Christians or Muslims or whatever, so be it. But candidates shouldn't be coupling their principles with a religious tag. Be a human and accept that your merits are defined by what you create, not what's created by a Church.

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David Parker 03/07/12 - 11:34 am
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Pre-emptive "didn't mean to

Pre-emptive "didn't mean to aggravate anybody". Just speaking my mind.

carcraft
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carcraft 03/07/12 - 11:53 am
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Tparty- As a Georgia Licensed

Tparty- As a Georgia Licensed Advanced Practice Nurse who has been an advanced practice nurse for over 25 years with a lot of education in pharmacology and physiology I think I understand a little bit about BC pills. There are also diaphragms ( very inexpensive) there are the implants such as Norplant that costs about $500 dollars for 5 years, etc. So what did you suggest when you said it doesn’t work that way? Now BC pills won’t protect from sexually transmitted diseases, so what is a girl to do? Oh testify before congress. And yes, a month’s supply of BC pills is about $30-$35/ month. BC pills can be obtained at any number of clinics etc. for (drum roll please) FREE!

carcraft
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carcraft 03/07/12 - 11:56 am
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Just another note- Planned

Just another note- Planned parenthood BRAGS that it helps women with reproductive health issues such as Fluke discribed, so why didn't her friend head on over there?

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Bruno 03/07/12 - 12:48 pm
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"Trying to mitigate in any

"Trying to mitigate in any way or using the tactic of "they did it too" is deceiving, churlish and immature."
I in no way excuse Limbaugh's comments but I to find it valid to point out the hypocrisy in the faux outrage of the left. Maher gets a pass because he hides behind the skirt of "I'm just a comic." He is no better nor worse than Limbaugh. Both are paid to say outrageous and most times stupid things that echo the outrageous and stupid thoughts of their audiences.
I would have preferred to hear a reasoned response to Fluke since her testimony was full of fallacious reasoning and logic holes. I certainly wouldn't turn to Limbaugh or Maher for that.

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copperhead 03/07/12 - 03:22 pm
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Folks that ignore the obvious

Folks that ignore the obvious haven't a clue what reality is! I guess it depends on what your definition of "is" is,though.

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burninater 03/07/12 - 03:28 pm
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Surely people are able to

Surely people are able to tell the political difference between Maher calling a single specific political figure a t**t and Limbaugh calling any woman that believes birth control should be covered by a health care policy a slut and prostitute. Surely people are capable of at least that level of differentiating one thing from another, right?

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Little Lamb 03/07/12 - 03:32 pm
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Having a personal belief is

Having a personal belief is one thing, Burninater. But acting on that belief and lobbying lawmakers to write laws to force all health insurance policies to cover birth control under penalty of law are two entirely different things. Bringing force into the equation takes away any moral high ground.

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