Overdone anger

Gingrich's hot response to media didn't look very presidential

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Newt Gingrich’s rage at the news media in Thursday night’s debate was delicious, understandable, crowd-pleasing and wholly overdone.

His over-the-top combativeness may, paradoxically, help boost him to the top in today’s South Carolina primary – but also ultimately may be the end of him.

We agree, in principle, when he says, “The destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office.” The tone set by the media – and the double standard in which Republicans are subject to vivisection while Bill Clinton remains a rock star and much of Barack Obama’s past is a closed book – is a growing problem for civil, civic America.

But if Gingrich’s umbrage felt good, it didn’t feel all that right.

For one thing, it was a completely legitimate line of questioning by CNN’s John King, one of the fairest members of the broadcast media: That Gingrich’s second wife, Marianne, alleged in an ABC-TV interview that Gingrich had asked her to have “an open marriage” in order for him to philander with the woman who ultimately became his third wife – well, that was simply the big news of the day.

Gingrich’s righteous anger at being asked about it right out of the chute at the debate was also a bit much; what difference does it make when it’s asked? It’s possible King could have waited until later, only to be accused of lying in wait. And again, it was the breaking news of the campaign.

The major media are biased; they have made a mess of the campaign; they are hurting the country by tugging the national dialogue into the sewer. But in this particular case, Gingrich has nothing to complain about. How could he not have known his past wives might be an issue?

Conservatives feel under siege by a hostile media.

We appreciate someone finally standing up for us with a modicum of courage.

But Mr. Gingrich just came off looking imperious in his rumbling anger Thursday night. How might he deflect the even greater flak that comes with being president – by constantly returning fire?

Asked Thursday night what he would’ve done differently in the campaign, Gingrich basically said he would’ve avoided being handled by political consultants at the start of his bid. Well, he sure needed a consultant Thursday night.

A little less indignation and a little more contrition might have helped his former wife’s charges blow over.

Maybe.

But his pugnaciousness – while it played well for the cameras and may even help him today – ensured the issue won’t go away anytime soon, and might hurt him in the long run.

Upon reflection along the winding campaign trail, conservatives may, once their own anger at the media subsides, conclude that the former Mrs. Gingrich’s allegations are actually quite grievous and not to be discounted in the emotions of the moment.

Especially for a political party grasping onto quaint values as one might hug a tree in a hurricane.

There may be a media double standard for Democrats and Republicans. However unfair, the tougher standard is still preferable.

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Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 01/21/12 - 03:22 pm
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What do we know about

What do we know about Copperhead? Is that his real name. Does his family know that he posts under an unlikely name? Where does he work, go to church___does he go to church? Questions, questions, questions!

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 03:22 pm
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riverman1 said "I've heard

riverman1 said "I've heard one or two people in the local media saying much worse about their ex's. I take it for what it is...a disgruntled ex."

Precisely the way it should be taken, except that most disgruntled ex's aren't given a national platform to spew her unprovable side of the story. Newt has shown some class by refusing to attack her.

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Riverman1 01/21/12 - 03:37 pm
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You know Newt is one of those

You know Newt is one of those kind of people that you just love to hear speak. He says things that give you those, "come to think of it, he's right" moments. I could listen to him talk all day.

However, I've been backing Mitt recently. Either way, I believe we will beat Obama. Newt just keeps growing on the public. When it comes down to him against Obama with daily interviews he is going to continue to improve his electability.

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Chillen 01/21/12 - 03:46 pm
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itsanotherday and eel.

itsanotherday and eel. Please describe for me how obama will appeal to middle of the road voters and gingrich will not. Obama is the most far left president the USA has ever had - if he's even on the chart at all - is marxism or communism represented on the political scale?

eel, I said nothing about your "real" manhood. How would I even know you are male? You got busted calling out another poster when you did the same thing yourself.

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allhans 01/21/12 - 03:49 pm
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The young women at the water

The young women at the water cooler doesn't like the fact that Newt had 3 tries at getting the right wife and they doubt that he is through yet. Power is attractive they say. Women!

(They really have a thing about the mother of his children, a woman a few years older than him, being ditched for a younger model.)

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Truth Matters 01/21/12 - 04:06 pm
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I agree with some positions

I agree with some positions of this editorial, but not for the same reasons. Attacks on the “main stream media” by some conservatives have become sport. I would suggest that the AC is main stream in this market in that it is the only daily in this town.

Regarding Newt Gingrich, I believe his affairs are the business of himself, his ex-wives and his current wife. The issue many have with him is the hypocrisy of leading the charge to oust a sitting president for an affair while he was engaged in an affair with Callista. It was Newt's hypocrisy and arrogance that made Bill Clinton a sympathetic candidate and allowed him to sail to re-election.

The assertion that the media have a liberal bias is not felt by many average voters and amounts to conservative victimization. And what about the treatment of the president by FoxNews reporters? I watched President Obama being interviewed by Bill O'Reilly and Bret Baier and both repeatedly interrupted the President before he could complete a sentence. Yet those same hosts have interviewed conservative guests and were overbearing in allowing them to get their points across. I guess the perception or reality of media bias is truly in the eye of the beholder.

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 04:29 pm
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Truth Matters said "The

Truth Matters said "The assertion that the media have a liberal bias is not felt by many average voters and amounts to conservative victimization."

With a name like yours it would behoove you to know that it's a proven fact that the mainstream media is biased to the political left and, perhaps more importantly, people know it.

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/what-do-studies-tell-us-ab...

http://www.mrc.org/static/biasbasics/Exhibit2-5GallupPollsonMediaBias.aspx

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itsanotherday1 01/21/12 - 05:02 pm
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Chillen, Mitt appeals to the

Chillen, Mitt appeals to the middle, not Obama. One of us mis-read EEL's post.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/21/12 - 05:18 pm
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itsanotherday. Seems one of

itsanotherday. Seems one of us is having trouble with the deeper meaning of posts. Let me make it very simple for you.

You said. "EEL: "Romney may appeal to the block of middle-of-the-road voters who in the end elect presidents. Those voters will run from Gingrich in droves." Count on it!

My post says and implies this.

So what. Obama won't do any better getting middle of the road voters either. So, what I am asking for is, why is this important to Gingrich and not to obama? Obama won't get them either.

Sorry I had to spell it out for you so clearly. Do you understand the question now that it has been simplified?

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madgerman 01/21/12 - 05:42 pm
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I could care less about Newts
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I could care less about Newts adultrey and I could care less about how many millions he spends on jewelry for his new wife. . Its his constant statements about being a good christian that I have a problem with. BTW when is he going to release his papers on his involvement with the Fanny-Mae business. Just how many times can a good christian marry and still be a disciple of god?

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carcraft 01/21/12 - 06:26 pm
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Ah yes more questions about

Ah yes more questions about Gingrich! Imagine you are sitting in a chair with your hand folded in your lap. A man with a deep vioce , looking down his nose at you through specticles with a look of disdain and pity for your ignorance. In a deep authoratative voice he states " The way it works is this, questions about why Obama's girl friend in his book "Dreams of My Father" bears a stricking resemblance to William Ayer's girl friend who died in the bomb blast in New York is tabloid level gossip and not fit for serious journalism" " He said she said gossip about Newt Gingrich's last divorce rises to the level of SERIOUS journalism because of the seriousness of the charge" There, that should explain it all! BWAHAHAHAHAHA

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carcraft 01/21/12 - 06:28 pm
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madgerman- When is Obama

madgerman- When is Obama going to release his college and law school transcripts?

Jake
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Jake 01/21/12 - 07:24 pm
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All this media and all these

All this media and all these posts about a person who has only a slightly better chance of being President than I do.

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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 07:31 pm
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madgerman, Let me bring some

madgerman, Let me bring some awareness to you; sex & lust, are the secret sins of the churched and the unchurched. The double standard is, only the churched are called out on it. That is unless you are a democrat, like Clinton who did pretend to be churched, occasionally, as it fit his agenda.

With the condition of the economy, the threats to The Constitution, & our freedom at stake; SMART PEOPLE will concern themselves with the critical issues. If the demos and the media could beat them on the issues, they wouldn't have to try to DISTRACT conservative Christians, with this smut. Not to worry though, cause I think we have caught on.

Let's just say for the benefit of argument, Obama was the top student college & law school, a model husband, father and man of God, he is still the worst president we have ever had, including Jimmy Carter. He's got to go.

Newt's smart, he's been successful, he knows Washington, he understands the military and economics, he can hit the ground running .....but most of all...he loves America. Ditto, for Romney, Santorum and Dr. Paul. The media is helping the Marxist drive America into the ground. Remember it, if you and your people succeed in reelecting him. God have mercy on all of us.

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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 07:31 pm
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That stuff hasn't been

That stuff hasn't been legalized, yet, Jake.

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that guy 01/21/12 - 07:57 pm
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The lack of self-awareness in

The lack of self-awareness in this editorial is hysterical. "Why are the media so biased against conservatives? If only there were a media outlet to defend us! Perhaps some day a newspaper will be brave enough to publish right-wing propaganda day-in, day out on its editorial page. Oh, I hope I live to see that day..."

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KSL 01/21/12 - 08:30 pm
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Where do you teach, effete?

Where do you teach, effete?

KSL
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KSL 01/21/12 - 08:33 pm
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Jake,you or Newt would be

Jake,you or Newt would be better than what we have now!

KSL
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KSL 01/21/12 - 08:44 pm
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FDR to the present. I don't

FDR to the present. I don't give a rat's rear about their sex lives. They just need to keep it out of the news. Why give Clinton a pass and crucify Newt. Seems his second wife was a nutcase.

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bjphysics 01/21/12 - 08:51 pm
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Truth Matters: “It was Newt's

Truth Matters: “It was Newt's hypocrisy and arrogance that made Bill Clinton a sympathetic candidate and allowed him to sail to re-election.”

Maybe I’m misremembering but it seems to me Clinton’s key sex scandals (the ones Newt used hypocritically) were in 1998. Since Clinton was re-elected in 1996 how could the 1998 sex scandal transfer victimization sympathy to him to facilitate his re-election?

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bjphysics 01/21/12 - 09:28 pm
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“They Just Can't Turn Off The

“They Just Can't Turn Off The Obama Hate”

“Rather than graciously give the POTUS credit, and rather than setting aside the truly petty personal attacks that traditionally anchor the right's incessant swipes, lots of critics just can't stop.

I'll highlight just two particularly disturbing examples.

The first came courtesy of Emily Miller at the Washington Times today. Read this passage and ask yourself how people like this ever come to view the President of the United States with such a blinding personal contempt. It's a dripping derision that can't even be set aside for 24 hours while America celebrates bin Laden's demise [emphasis added]:

The president made a televised briefing to the nation at 11:35 p.m. to announce that the 9/11 terrorist had, at last, been captured and killed. He concluded his scripted remarks – which he read from a teleprompter – with soaring, spiritual words. “Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all,” said Mr. Obama. “May God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.”

Talking points aside, the suddenly religious president started his Sunday morning as he usually does: skipping church to go hit the golf links.

Yes, the Washington Times unloaded on the president for quoting the Pledge of Allegiance.”

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201105030007

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Sargebaby 01/21/12 - 09:28 pm
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Willow says; "With the

Willow says; "With the condition of the economy, the threats to The Constitution, & our freedom at stake; SMART PEOPLE will concern themselves with the critical issues."

CRITICAL ISSUE; What if....what if the cancellation of the oil pipeline was a Military move to further weaken our nation? In one fell swoop, the Prez wiped out millions in income, tens of thousands of jobs, and a strengthening of our economy! Who is he President of, Palestine?

bjphysics
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bjphysics 01/21/12 - 09:41 pm
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Obama Derangement Syndrome

Obama Derangement Syndrome PSA

http://soundcloud.com/mike-in-raleigh/obama-derangement-syndrome

“…a half-baked thought is a terrible thing to waste.”

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 10:01 pm
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Sargebaby, scary stuff,

Sargebaby, scary stuff, indeed. One's allegiance and love for this country is really something to consider.

As Mitt Romney said, "it's time for him to just get out of the way."

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carcraft 01/21/12 - 10:10 pm
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BJphysics, Just to jar your

BJphysics, Just to jar your memory a little bit, Jennifer Flowers came out in 1992 and even had tapes of converstions between her and Clinton. Flowers and others (including Ms America from Arkansas) were such disruptions that Clinton had a "bimbo erruption" squad to quell the "disturbances". Of course Flowers was ignored by the press as where the State Troopers who were required to procure women and run interferance with Hillery. Paula Jones came along and was ignored until she actually sued leading to the famous "it depends on what the definition of is is" statement by Clinton. I think a state trooper was also sent to bring Jones to Clinton's room, hence the Paula Jones affair was called "trooper gate" if memory serves me correctly! Of course that was a Democrate so sex was a infedilty etc were none issues because Clinton's heart was pure and he had the strength of 10 ( he needed it to defend against Hillery when she found out)!

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Chillen 01/21/12 - 10:38 pm
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Sargebaby. It's so simple to

Sargebaby. It's so simple to see. A weak economy = distracted and demoralized citizens = more sheeple to cry out for help from the government = a stronger government = more power for the community organizer.

The weaker the American economy and people get, the more powerful obama becomes. Americans are focused on putting food on the table, keeping their house, filling their cars with gas that has doubled in price since obama took office, or taking welfare from the govt. Meanwhile obama is busy making terrible decisions for Americans, appointing communists to his staff, destroying American freedom and our economy. He's grabbing power and bypassing Congress every chance he gets.

A dictator is in the making. And it is being done intentionally and skillfully through intentional economic desruction through bad policies, saddling us with more debt than can EVER be paid back and by wasting of US taxpayer money (GM, Solyndra, all all the other debacles).

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skeptic griggsy 01/22/12 - 01:40 am
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Obama wins since Leroy won
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Obama wins since Leroy won the S.C. vote!

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