Overdone anger

Gingrich's hot response to media didn't look very presidential

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Newt Gingrich’s rage at the news media in Thursday night’s debate was delicious, understandable, crowd-pleasing and wholly overdone.

His over-the-top combativeness may, paradoxically, help boost him to the top in today’s South Carolina primary – but also ultimately may be the end of him.

We agree, in principle, when he says, “The destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office.” The tone set by the media – and the double standard in which Republicans are subject to vivisection while Bill Clinton remains a rock star and much of Barack Obama’s past is a closed book – is a growing problem for civil, civic America.

But if Gingrich’s umbrage felt good, it didn’t feel all that right.

For one thing, it was a completely legitimate line of questioning by CNN’s John King, one of the fairest members of the broadcast media: That Gingrich’s second wife, Marianne, alleged in an ABC-TV interview that Gingrich had asked her to have “an open marriage” in order for him to philander with the woman who ultimately became his third wife – well, that was simply the big news of the day.

Gingrich’s righteous anger at being asked about it right out of the chute at the debate was also a bit much; what difference does it make when it’s asked? It’s possible King could have waited until later, only to be accused of lying in wait. And again, it was the breaking news of the campaign.

The major media are biased; they have made a mess of the campaign; they are hurting the country by tugging the national dialogue into the sewer. But in this particular case, Gingrich has nothing to complain about. How could he not have known his past wives might be an issue?

Conservatives feel under siege by a hostile media.

We appreciate someone finally standing up for us with a modicum of courage.

But Mr. Gingrich just came off looking imperious in his rumbling anger Thursday night. How might he deflect the even greater flak that comes with being president – by constantly returning fire?

Asked Thursday night what he would’ve done differently in the campaign, Gingrich basically said he would’ve avoided being handled by political consultants at the start of his bid. Well, he sure needed a consultant Thursday night.

A little less indignation and a little more contrition might have helped his former wife’s charges blow over.

Maybe.

But his pugnaciousness – while it played well for the cameras and may even help him today – ensured the issue won’t go away anytime soon, and might hurt him in the long run.

Upon reflection along the winding campaign trail, conservatives may, once their own anger at the media subsides, conclude that the former Mrs. Gingrich’s allegations are actually quite grievous and not to be discounted in the emotions of the moment.

Especially for a political party grasping onto quaint values as one might hug a tree in a hurricane.

There may be a media double standard for Democrats and Republicans. However unfair, the tougher standard is still preferable.

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Conservative Man
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Conservative Man 01/21/12 - 11:25 am
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I predict Newt will take SC

I predict Newt will take SC precisely BECAUSE he took it to the press...Plus I thought during the Clinton years the press told us a candidates sex life was private and had nothing to do with how you do your job....

skeptic griggsy
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skeptic griggsy 01/21/12 - 11:26 am
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Cadence, it's is hypocricy
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Cadence, it's is hypocricy that's at issue, not the specifics, for me and others. He's a theo-con- so-called family values and such.
Willard's problem is his crony capitalism and his tax rate: he should pay way more in taxes! Bain delivered the goods for its investors but harmed the economy.
Leroy and Willard need to expiate for their immoral behavior!
Specsta.eh?
Ron Paul is the father of Ayn Rand Paul.

carcraft
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carcraft 01/21/12 - 11:30 am
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Lets see, Newt's ex says that

Lets see, Newt's ex says that he dumped her after she was diagnosed with scoliosis. Newt dumped her in 1990.'s she was diagnosed in 2000. ABC is math callanged to say the least ( about as badly as I am spelling challanged)! Now about Obama, I really don't care about Obama 20 years ago, it would be nice to see the press ask Obama about things NOW. Fast and Furious, over 2,000 weapons, 400 Mexican nationals dead and one US law enforcement officer and the press is more concerned with Newt's last divorce! Solyndra and the other 20 or so failed "green energy" investments to Obama political cronies costing tax payers Billions upon billions of dollars and the press is more interested in Mitt Romney's tax returns. Obama has an aunt and uncle in the US illegally living in poverty and the press is more concerned with Romney's Charitable giving. Obama 's job adviser Jeffery Imelt has shiped thousands of US jobs to China and GE has paid no taxes yet Imelt is an Obama buddy and jobs advisor yet the press is more concerned with Romney's off shore account. Obama claimed he created 2.7 million jobs through "green energy" investments yet the press is more interested in how many jobs Romney was supposed to have created 20 years ago...Go figure...Of course many of the liberals don't want to discuss Obama, much easier to talk about Newt's last ex wife, even if ABC reporter's can't do math!

copperhead
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copperhead 01/21/12 - 11:28 am
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WHAT do we know about

WHAT do we know about hussein's ethics?

copperhead
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copperhead 01/21/12 - 11:28 am
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WHAT do we know about

WHAT do we know about hussein's ethics?

skeptic griggsy
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skeptic griggsy 01/21/12 - 11:32 am
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Conservative Man, Pres.
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Conservative Man, Pres. Clinton did not parade as a religious values candidathe whilst Leroy does so, so the one doesn't equate with the other. Leroy himself has made his hypocricy an issue.
Clinton ,with some help from Leroy, delivered the goods- 23 million jobs and the markets ,as they do under Democrats went up.
Clinton's 1993 budget delivered the goods more than the 1996 could act, and the economy did the real delivery to cut the budget.

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 11:34 am
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Most of the time I agree with

Most of the time I agree with the Editorial comments of the ACES staff, but this isn't one of those times. I think Gingrich hit a home run with the way he answered the question. It was an outrageous question, under the circumstances.

ABC news is guilty of shoddy, agenda-driven "journalism" for running the story in the first place and CNN made a huge mistake by asking the question to start their "debate." Journalistic standards used to include a requirement to validate, through at least one other source, any kind of personal attack you were about to publish/announce. Both ABC and CNN chose to ignore the requirement and to bring the unverified personal attack to the front at the most inopportune time from Gingrich's perspective. A deliberate "hit" piece.

Voters are wising up to the fact that mainstream media is unashamedly biased in favor of the radical left because it has been proven such time and time again. Newt did the right thing in pointing it out so clearly once again.

carcraft
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carcraft 01/21/12 - 11:36 am
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Newt Gingrich does have a

Newt Gingrich does have a history the press DOESN'T want to discuss. Gingrich was the Architect of the House take over after 40 year of Democratic Rule. Gingrich was the Architect of Clinton's ba;anced budgets budget (wouldn't it be nice if the Democrats even made and effort to produce a budget) surpluses. Gingrich has displayed an ability to work with Democrats to get things done. Much better record than community organizing!

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allhans 01/21/12 - 11:39 am
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Nothing stays hidden forever.

Nothing stays hidden forever. Somewhere, down the road, within the nest year or so, the truth will come out about the background of Barrack H Obama. It might be too late to save us but it will come out. There is tons of information that access is forbidden to the public and he has been allowed to keep it secret which brings up a big question.
WHY?.

TNTHOMSON
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TNTHOMSON 01/21/12 - 11:51 am
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"Where shall I go? What shall

"Where shall I go? What shall I do?" asks the citizens .

"Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn" answers our political system.

Money, greed, the lust for power continue to rule the day and divide the people who would rather 'fall for anything than stand for something'.....

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 12:02 pm
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EEL said "So you are off the

EEL said "So you are off the hook, as "real American men" are never wrong, about ANYTHING!"

Not many would agree with that statement, but if you're sincere it's an opinion you're free to hold.

Pouting is so unbecoming.

I'm curious why you brought gender into the discussion? Chillen said "real American," you changed it to "real American men."

Why?

Is chillen a man or a woman? Do you know for sure?

Bruno
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Bruno 01/21/12 - 12:10 pm
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I am confused. If sex wasn't

I am confused. If sex wasn't supposed to matter when Clinton was doing it with an intern in the Oval Office, why again is it supposed to matter when Gingrich is asking to do it in the privacy of his own home?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/21/12 - 12:14 pm
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Carcraft wrote: Gingrich has

Carcraft wrote:

Gingrich has displayed an ability to work with Democrats to get things done.

This is reason 171 NOT to vote for Gingrich!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/21/12 - 12:20 pm
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ACES wrote: Upon reflection

ACES wrote:

Upon reflection along the winding campaign trail, conservatives may, once their own anger at the media subsides, conclude that the former Mrs. Gingrich’s allegations are actually quite grievous and not to be discounted in the emotions of the moment. Especially for a political party grasping onto quaint values as one might hug a tree in a hurricane.

We had a good discussion about this at the breakfast table. We had different notions about what ACES meant by “quaint values.” Trouble was, neither my spouse nor myself could defend our argument very well because of the ambiguity.

Would any of you care to post what you think ACES meant by quaint values?

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 12:21 pm
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Little Lamb said "This is

Little Lamb said "This is reason 171 NOT to vote for Gingrich!"

Hoo boy, do I ever agree with that one. I hope Gingrich has gotten over that horrible habit. I want Republicans to totally ignore democrats if they win, just like democrats did to Republicans.

Republicans have historically had the habit of actually trying to work WITH democrats in past Republican Administrations, only to have it stuffed down their throats when democrats took over. Look no further than Obam's "Stimulus" legislation and Obamacare to see how democrats act when they're in charge.

Bipartisanship is a thing of the past. Republicans want to SAVE the Country, democrats want to destroy it.

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 12:30 pm
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Little Lamb asked "Would any

Little Lamb asked "Would any of you care to post what you think ACES meant by quaint values?"

I think they mean all the Republican talk about the importance of religion, family, and traditional American values. It is a constant theme of the left that Republicans are hypocrites because they don't "practice what they preach." Every time a Republican politician gets caught in some kind of compromising sexual affair, they raise this issue and it's not without merit.

Personally, I think the use of the word "quaint" by the ACES it a little strange, but I'm assuming they intended it to mean "quaint" from the perspective of the liberals.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 01/21/12 - 12:56 pm
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EEL: "Romney may appeal to

EEL: "Romney may appeal to the block of middle-of-the-road voters who in the end elect presidents. Those voters will run from Gingrich in droves."

Count on it!

copperhead
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copperhead 01/21/12 - 01:15 pm
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Somebody-anybody say how

Somebody-anybody say how great hussein was 20 years ago!

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 01:24 pm
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He was SO GREAT 20 years ago,

He was SO GREAT 20 years ago, I wish he had stayed there, completely frozen in the moment.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 01:32 pm
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I have no problem with these

I have no problem with these editorial comments, so long as the group, individually, can hold there own lives up as an example of a perfect one - union marrige. What do you suppose the odds are of that? What are the odds of those who are negatively commenting on the matter?

faithson
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faithson 01/21/12 - 01:49 pm
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"Romney dares not go there.

"Romney dares not go there. Not Newt. He’s the street fighter with a history of poisonous politics who not only goes there but dwells there. He makes his nest among the thorns of open animus and coded language... Gingrich is appealing to (and exposing) an ugly, gut-level anger and animosity among a sizable portion of the Republican electorate. This may work for him in the primaries, but it doesn’t bode well for his party in November." By CHARLES M. BLOW

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 02:26 pm
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Newt has consistently

Newt has consistently refused to say anything bad about this woman. Newt's two daughters have nothing bad to say about him, to the contrary, they both support him and are willing to go to bat for him often.

Who holds the moral high ground here? Newt could announce that his ex-wife told him, in private, she wanted to have sex with all their neighbors, or some other wild story that's neither provable, nor provably disputed. He hasn't. He's chosen to keep the issues surrounding the divorce private, as they should be.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 02:22 pm
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If you can't take him on the

If you can't take him on the issues, then look for ways to personally discredit him. That is the left's way, political and media. They hold everyone else to a standard that THEY, themselves cannot meet. Insanity!

Every successful marriage has two participating, just as every failed marriage had two participating.

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Riverman1 01/21/12 - 02:29 pm
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Willow is so insightful,

Willow is so insightful, erudite, cogent, incisive and humorous with her comments today. But the real reason I compliment her is she is such a beauty. Let BigBob say the same things and I ain’t passing out any kudos.

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 02:54 pm
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I'm sure Willow is all those

I'm sure Willow is all those things you said (I had to look up "erudite") and I'll have to take your word for the "beauty" part.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 01/21/12 - 03:00 pm
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To the AES, I get the feeling

To the AES, I get the feeling it's okay for the press to bring up anything, but let us cowardly anonymous posters bring up something and it's wrong.

Harley, I say you and I take my pick-up one night and try the tressel thing after we are medicated up enough. You game? Do they stop your military retirement if you go to jail?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 01/21/12 - 03:10 pm
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"Mrs. Gingrich’s allegations

"Mrs. Gingrich’s allegations are actually quite grievous and not to be discounted in the emotions of the moment."

If such things mattered to the public when the personally despicable Bill Clinton was actively doing his perversions in the Oval Office they would have kicked him out. Statements made by an exspouse about a marriage that ended 12 years ago...hardly compares.

I've heard one or two people in the local media saying much worse about their ex's. I take it for what it is...a disgruntled ex.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 01/21/12 - 03:13 pm
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Harley: "'m sure Willow is

Harley: "'m sure Willow is all those things you said (I had to look up "erudite") and I'll have to take your word for the "beauty" part."

And she definitely is not execrable; (my new word for the day I learned from Kiwi) although from what I hear, it might apply to a couple of self appointed R & R cops.

harley_52
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harley_52 01/21/12 - 03:12 pm
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I'm in.

I'm in.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/21/12 - 03:16 pm
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Sigh... you guys are the

Sigh... you guys are the best!!

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