Irrelevant Iowa?

State's choice of candidate could imperil its plum political position

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Iowa has fought long and hard to be relevant in presidential politics.

The state may lose all of that relevance in a few weeks.

Experts are saying that if Iowans choose Ron Paul as their Republican nominee, the result will be largely ignored – and the tradition of allowing Iowa to go first may become a thing of the past.

The reason is that few people outside of Iowa believe Paul has any chance of being the eventual GOP nominee – and that if he is, he will lose to President Obama next November.

Many Americans, not just Iowans, agree with the Texas congressman’s views that the federal government is toiling far outside the boundaries set for it by the Constitution. And while he comes off as more than a little eccentric, he’s whip-smart and more blunt and candid than about any other politician of his era.

Yet, his views on illegal drugs and foreign policy are extreme in the extreme. He has said he would end the war on drugs – presumably legalizing them – and pardon all nonviolent drug offenders in prison. And while we appreciate his anti-war sentiments, his views on intervention and national defense are isolationist and naive and maybe even dangerous. He’s made it clear, for example, he has little problem with Iran or its nuclear ambitions.

In short, although we applaud his strong core of passionate supporters for standing up for their beliefs, Paul’s extreme libertarian positions can’t help but make him a fringe candidate, even in a conservative Republican Party.

If he comes in first in the Iowa caucuses Jan. 3, as polls show he well might, it could do irreparable harm to Iowa’s first-in-the-nation status, as well as the cherished caucus system itself – which will be seen as hopelessly antiquated and ineffective. The stakes are redwood-high: The current system has been an incredible boon to Iowa’s prestige and political infrastructure, and has exerted pressure on candidates not only to advertise heavily in the state but to meet voters in person. It’s become an expectation in some quarters, which is rather a quaint notion in these far-flung days.

The stakes are even bigger nationally: A Paul win might embolden him and encourage him to run a third-party candidacy next year, which surely would play havoc with Republican hopes of defeating President Obama.

“If we empower somebody who turns around and elects Obama, then that’s a major problem for the caucuses,” U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, was quoted on Politico.com.

“People are going to look at who comes in second and who comes in third,” Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad was quoted as saying about a potential Paul victory there.

Iowa may be in a no-win situation: If caucus-goers favor Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich Jan. 3, they may be admitting that their ability to shame candidates into spending time in Iowa is waning; neither Romney nor Gingrich played the “face-time” game, and indeed, ads and debates and other strategies have been deployed more in this campaign than in the past.

No offense to our friends in the Hawkeye State, but with a Ron Paul win, the question will be more burning: Why should anybody play the Iowa way if the state picks someone with almost no chance of being president?

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Many Arrows
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Many Arrows 12/23/11 - 12:17 am
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So saith the morally and

So saith the morally and financially bankrupt. Here we have a man, Ron Paul, who most closely represents the stated ideals of the Republican Party, a dedicated husband of 54 years, a wonderful Christian man with a brother who is a minister, who actually WILL reduce the size and scope of government and the AC comically utters the modern equivalent of "Give US Barabbas!" Losers!

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 12:44 am
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Ron Paul is just so bland

Ron Paul is just so bland it's hard to get enthused about his candidacy. Since Herman Cain and his colorful campaign have gone home, maybe fellow conservative, Herman, could leave his pimp hat with Ron to jazz him up a bit.

Can you see Ron Paul wearing that black calvary hat Cain wore? Imagine Ron Paul throwing out a little pimp talk, throwing out gang sings and coming out to speak, dancing a little as rap music played. I swear if he would wear that hat, he'd have my vote.

bstewart888
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bstewart888 12/23/11 - 02:19 am
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Jon Lester 12/23/11 - 05:03 am
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I just searched the page for

I just searched the page for the word "corn," and nothing came up. We could make great strides if someone were brave enough to tell Iowa voters that corn subsidies must end.

Techfan
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Techfan 12/23/11 - 06:54 am
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"Why should anybody play the

"Why should anybody play the Iowa way if the state picks someone with almost no chance of being president?" To make the AC happy, they're cancelling the Republican primary.

wribbs
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wribbs 12/23/11 - 07:20 am
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I think what scares most

I think what scares most people about Paul is they know he really is going to change government. Some 'conservatives' blather on about wanting smaller government, but in my humble opinion that's all it is, blather.

Most of the attacks I hear against him are on foreign policy. Would someone explain to me why foreign policy would matter if we are a broke, socialist shell of what America used to be? I think we should try it his way for a while.

We can develop the technology to protect this country or any other from a nuclear Iran. If they launch a missile we could vaporize them before the thing was twenty feet off the ground. We should develop our own sources of oil and get out of that region forever. In twenty years they would be willing to give us twenty barrels of oil for a bushel of corn.

I heard Dick Morris criticizing his idea to return to the gold standard. His argument was basically that being on the gold standard didn’t allow us to spend money we don’t have. Can someone explain to me why having a dollar be worth a dollar of gold be a bad thing? Right now it is worth the ‘full faith and credit of the United States Government’. Whatever that means.

Electing Gingrinch or Romney will be no different than having Obama in the White House. Their goals and methods are all the same. Obama wants to get us there in eight years; the others think it should take about twenty. Establishment Republicans don’t want change; they want to be in charge.

If we keep voting like we have been voting, we will keep getting what we have been getting.

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ken8375309 12/23/11 - 09:28 am
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Has Ron Paul broken any

Has Ron Paul broken any rules? Has he cheated? Why should he be denied fair election process?

People are fed up with endless war, massive government, and a bankrupt America.. Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate that offers real change..
The elite controlled media is so accustomed to manipulating the sheeple with its drivel, that they arrogantly claim that Ron Paul will "ruin Iowa's first-to-vote" status, falsely claiming he's unelectable, and that he will hand the second term to Obama.

On another note, for those of you that say that Iowa will become irrelevant, clearly you must believe that our active duty military vote is also irrelevant considering Ron Paul has received more donations from them than all other GOP candidates combined... Sigh..

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 07:54 am
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Young Fred said, "If

Young Fred said, "If anything, he normally “shakes things up”.

Well, that's the truth. It's just that physique maybe. If we could get him weight lifting, taking supplements and maybe taking martial arts lessons he night fill out a bit in the face. Right now he's type cast as the undertaker of the universe. We need to make him Marlon Brando in The Wild One.

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david jennings 12/23/11 - 08:35 am
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I don't care what the guy

I don't care what the guy looks like. I am conservative and I honestly don't feel I have much to choose from. I will have to hold my nose to vote for any of them right now with the exception of Paul. I believe Obama will get his four more, sadly.

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avidreader 12/23/11 - 09:57 am
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I'm a Ron Paul guy! There is

I'm a Ron Paul guy! There is so much more to Mr. Paul than the AC will portray. Obama was a "nobody" when he reached the pinnacle of politics. Do not underestimate the power of Paul.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 12/23/11 - 09:58 am
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Classic example of shooting

Classic example of shooting the messenger. Iowa's "message" is "none of the above." The Republican Party has managed to assemble a comic cast of fools and buffoons with iowa conservatives rushing from one to the next in a midwest version of a Chinese fire drill. The spectacle of Iowa Republicans devouring their own has been a joy to behold, and may just result in the Second Coming of Barack. Why Ron Paul? He's about the last one standing in the circular firing squad that has been the Iowa primary so far, and his prospects no doubt will fade when the others start deluging the Iowa airways with negative Ron Paul ads. So is ACES right that Iowa has finally gotten it wrong? Don't think so; its message that this crop of Republican candidates is a bunch of losers is right on the money.

TParty
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TParty 12/23/11 - 10:13 am
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Ron Paul wants a smaller

Ron Paul wants a smaller government. He's right. The war on drugs- all that does is make a larger government department and tramples on State rights. If Ga wants to legalize or prohibit a substance, our State should be able to do so without the Federal government getting involved and dictating. That's Ron Pauls stance. He applies it to everything. If it's not in the Constitution, the Federal Government should have little say on how State handle their affairs.

Everyone says the Federal Government can't do anything. Can't secure a border, can't keep costs down, will ruin healthcare, prevents innovation by supporting companies they like, making people poor and keeping them there, etc... I bet a long list could be made on why a bigger government is bad. If our government, which is of the people, by the people and for the people is so bad for us- then why would that same government be good in another sovereign country?

Go youtube Ron Paul's ad "Imagine", I dare anyone to find fault in his stance and argument.

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augusta citizen 12/23/11 - 10:14 am
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So Iowans should use their

So Iowans should use their precious right to vote, to play politics and make the establishment Republicans happy?

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Jake 12/23/11 - 10:20 am
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Ron Paul is the only

Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate that many of my friends on the left would consider voting for. I did say "consider". That being said, if he was the nominee, and actually won, I would liken his presidency to that of Carter's. He would likely not get the support from within his own party to effect any of the policies that he is keen on. Let's face it, the fix is in when it comes to selecting and then electing candidates for high office. You GOP folks are just going to have to grin and bear it with Romney being your man.

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allhans 12/23/11 - 10:26 am
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I can find no humor in a

I can find no humor in a boring Ron Paul debating the charismatic Hussein Obama. It's just not realistic.
Sorry, Paul supporters, there aren't nearly enough of you.

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seenitB4 12/23/11 - 10:37 am
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Jake said.... You GOP folks

Jake said....
You GOP folks are just going to have to grin and bear it with Romney being your man.

I think you are right Jake.....but I don't wannna grin..

augusta citizen
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augusta citizen 12/23/11 - 10:40 am
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seenitB4, I think Jake is

seenitB4, I think Jake is right too, but I just plan to bear it without the grin. :|

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Chillen 12/23/11 - 11:21 am
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"Experts are saying that if

"Experts are saying that if Iowans choose Ron Paul as their Republican nominee, the result will be largely ignored" And just who are these experts? Progressive Republican establishment folks like Carl Rove?

I believe that the primary elections should rotate. If your state is first this year, then you are last the next year, 49th the following and 48th the next and so forth until 50 years later, you are first again.

Just a few states should not have the luxury of deciding the direction of primary elections year after year after year.

Or, lets just hold the primary in all states on the same day. May the best man or woman win.

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copperhead 12/23/11 - 11:46 am
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It is ALL irrelevant! the fix

It is ALL irrelevant! the fix is already in. hussein by a land-slide!

copperhead
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copperhead 12/23/11 - 11:52 am
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Is the same company supplying

Is the same company supplying the voting machines that supplied the security machines in our airports?

bjphysics
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bjphysics 12/23/11 - 12:08 pm
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Ron Paul, gotta love this

Ron Paul, gotta love this guy, he says what he believes; eventually that will include something about eliminating red lights and the Republican leadership knows this. After the South Carolina primary, Crazy Uncle Paul will be back in the family basement on his meds.

TParty
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TParty 12/23/11 - 01:52 pm
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People keep calling Ron Paul

People keep calling Ron Paul crazy, however he has true conservative values. I'm surprised by how much Neal Boortz, Rush, Austin Rhodes and fox news call Ron Paul crazy. I'm surprised by how much the media tries to ignore Ron Paul.

People want Obamacare gone. That's Ron Paul. Dept Education, EPA, Energy- everything the right hates about liberals and their policies- Ron Paul will do away with. That has been his stance his entire life. You don't see him on a bench with Pelosi, siding with her. And you don't see Ron Paul changing his party and values based on where he is campaigning.

But if people want to dismiss Iowa because of Ron Paul, I wonder if people will dismiss NH because Huntsman will do well there. Then the media can dismiss anyone they want, any person that will not line their pockets.

itsanotherday
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itsanotherday 12/23/11 - 01:57 pm
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No grin and bear it on Romney
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No grin and bear it on Romney for me. I supported his candidacy in 2008 and I still do.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 01:59 pm
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T Party, no one calls Ron

T Party, no one calls Ron Paul crazy except liberals. We like what he says, but some believe he is simply not charismatic enough to be elected.

Jon Huntsman might be alright if we could get him out of that cave in the Himalayas where he and the Dali Lama rub each others back.

TParty
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TParty 12/23/11 - 02:06 pm
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This editorial calls Ron Paul

This editorial calls Ron Paul uses adjectives like 'dangerous' 'fringe'. The whole point was that if Paul wins, everything is invalid because he is not the chosen one by the media. It doesn't matter what the people want, they don't know any better. "No offense to our friends in the Hawkeye State, but with a Ron Paul win, the question will be more burning: Why should anybody play the Iowa way if the state picks someone with almost no chance of being president?" And others agree with the papers position.

Anyways, Paul is charismatic- have you not seen any of his debates, or interviews? Compare him to Kerry, talk about a guy who is not charismatic.

Huntsman is the future- but I'm getting off that soap box for the moment to support Ron Paul.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 02:20 pm
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TParty says, "This editorial

TParty says, "This editorial calls Ron Paul uses adjectives like 'dangerous' 'fringe'."

I wonder what they would call Jon Huntsman if they would one day be bored and write an editorial about him?

TParty
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TParty 12/23/11 - 02:42 pm
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I'm not sure why fun and

I'm not sure why fun and exciting has to be a huge part of election cycle, this is not Jersey Shore and American Idol. As much fun as it was to watch Cain implode, and see the crazy of Bachmann, and watch Perry be himself- they are not Presidential people.

Huntsman would serve his country right- you can look at how he governed Utah as proof.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 02:42 pm
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Like Obama is presidential?

Like Obama is presidential? American presidential that is. Heh.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/23/11 - 02:45 pm
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Really, you could take

Really, you could take Obama's socialist views and his Muslim father background and get him elected president in Somalia. How in the world did his teleprompter get translated into English and get him elected here?

TParty
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TParty 12/23/11 - 02:49 pm
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Obama is not Presidential,

Obama is not Presidential, that's why he needs to go. However if the GOP continues its search for a Kardasian equivalent of a candidate, then Obama will win a second term.

You can either have your fun and zany candidate, and ensure Obama doesn't move for another four years, or the GOP can get behind a mature, informed and steady leadership.

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