A huge step backward

  • Follow Editorials

The American financial crisis has become more about political willpower than even money.

And not just among politicians.

Ohio leaders passed a law to try to prevent organized labor costs from eating the state alive, as is happening before the world’s eyes in Greece. Sadly, voters stoked by public unions and millions of dollars of union money voted last Tuesday, against their own interests, to overturn that law – and put the state back on an unsound financial path.

In short, even as we watch the crumbling of the social welfare state in Europe, it appears many Americans don’t want to be spared the same fate.

In the bigger picture, it’s obvious that November 2010’s election gains for commonsense conservatism have faded from memory – and unless folks who are worried about this country’s future mobilize next year, their complacency will cripple America.

Commentator Mark Steyn noted after the Ohio vote that Americans are “not yet sold on transformative rollbacks of government and the public sector. They seem to think that out there somewhere there’s a way to get the good times back that’s more or less pain-free. ... Obama & Co. will have a pretty good shot at fooling them.”

It worked in Ohio.

As stated before Tuesday by the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch, a vote by the public to reaffirm Senate Bill 5 “would require public employees to pay a bigger share of their health-insurance premiums and pension contributions, eliminate binding arbitration, and consider performance for raises and promotions, along with seniority and credentials.”

That’s all. Pretty commonsense stuff. And, in truth, it might have helped bring public employee benefits more in line with the folks’ benefits in the private sector who are supporting the public employees. But on the strength of some $30 million, much of it from out of state, the unions’ cynical “We Are Ohio” campaign outspent the other side 3-to-1, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The unions fooled the public – or simply overwhelmed an uninspired electorate – by claiming it was “about jobs.” Actually, it was about the affordability of outdated pay and benefit packages.

As the Dispatch warned, “Ohio’s teachers, firefighters, police officers and other public workers do valuable work, but a collective-bargaining system tilted against taxpayers has led to pay, benefits and other perks that no longer are affordable.”

One of this nation’s great states just took a huge step backward.

If the rest of the country doesn’t hear that thud, we are doomed to repeat it.

Comments (96) Add comment
ADVISORY: Users are solely responsible for opinions they post here and for following agreed-upon rules of civility. Posts and comments do not reflect the views of this site. Posts and comments are automatically checked for inappropriate language, but readers might find some comments offensive or inaccurate. If you believe a comment violates our rules, click the "Flag as offensive" link below the comment.
faithson
5455
Points
faithson 11/14/11 - 12:22 am
0
0
The election of 2010 has

The election of 2010 has fizzled because to much was attempted all at once. Your shove it down the throats of those 'lame brain libs' has failed. Much could have been accomplished had the ''tea party" worked with the other side. We are in dire need of fiscal reform, but this righteous indignation the tea party shows to all critics is self defeating.

Jon Lester
2440
Points
Jon Lester 11/14/11 - 02:15 am
0
0
Meanwhile, China's socialist

Meanwhile, China's socialist market economy continues to outperform every other, only "slowing" to 9% growth in the previous quarter.

Craig Spinks
817
Points
Craig Spinks 11/14/11 - 02:36 am
0
0
A society wherein

A society wherein unenlightened self-interest and its corollary avarice have supplanted a rational balance between self- and public-interest as well as the practice of thrift is a fool's paradise doomed to tragic demise.

Riverman1
90728
Points
Riverman1 11/14/11 - 03:09 am
0
0
Wait for the unions to start

Wait for the unions to start siding with the workers in foreign countries protesting THEIR loss of benefits. They'll demand we pay their salary and pensions, too. Workers International. I'm going to start selling hammer and sickle flags. Have to take advantage of the trend in my greedy capitalist way.

carcraft
27886
Points
carcraft 11/14/11 - 05:31 am
0
0
Jon Lester-"Meanwhile,

Jon Lester-"Meanwhile, China's socialist market economy continues to outperform every other, only "slowing" to 9% growth in the previous quarter." Of course, because they don't have stupid environmental laws ( wait, they don't have ANY environmental laws), they produce what energy is available to them because they really understand man made golbull warming is a farce, and they don't have to deal with stupid labour laws and unions. The Chinese government manipulates the currancy and the leaders are founded in pragmatism instead of idiology like oourt dear leader.

carcraft
27886
Points
carcraft 11/14/11 - 05:33 am
0
0
Faithson- Is that anything

Faithson- Is that anything like the health care bill and the stimulus package that brought us Joe "nobody messes with Joe" Biden's summer of recovery?

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 05:58 am
0
0
So we should be like China?

So we should be like China?

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 06:37 am
0
0
People of Ohio understood

People of Ohio understood very well that Kasich wanted to give breaks to his cronies and donors at the expense of working men and women. Massive raises for his personal staff, created new positions for buddies with 6 figure salaries. The AC also failed to mention, as usual, that the side supporting the bill, Make Ohio Great,(an arm of the Republican Governors Association, a million $ from the Kochs, and a million $ from Murdoch) can keep its donors secret, and did. Same for the Chamber of Commerce and Alliance for America's Future (out of Virginia, founded by Dick Cheney's daughter Mary) Full disclosure by the unions, but no disclosure of who supports the other side? I'll side with full disclosure.

curly123053
5187
Points
curly123053 11/14/11 - 06:56 am
0
0
The voters were corrupted by

The voters were corrupted by the lies of the unions in a state with a history of leaning liberal. Thank God SC has not been corrupted by the crooks of the unions.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 07:08 am
0
0
Just by the crooks and

Just by the crooks and corporations.

justthefacts
24060
Points
justthefacts 11/14/11 - 07:30 am
0
0
"a million $ from the Kochs,

"a million $ from the Kochs, and a million $ from Murdoch" I doubt it. No proof. They contributed to the RGA during the Governor's race.

curly123053
5187
Points
curly123053 11/14/11 - 07:32 am
0
0
There are enough labor laws

There are enough labor laws on the books to keep corporate America from taking advantage of the American workers. To have laws on the books requiring American wage earners to pay union fees and pay taxes for the public sector union jobs is pure armed robbery of American taxpayers. I am already being robbed by the state and federal governments through the income tax laws which were derived from the Communist Manifesto, and I'm sure not going to allow fat headed corrupt unions to get their hands on my money. I feel sorry for the Ohio voters who were mislead by a criminal mindset backed up by the government.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 07:36 am
0
0
That's how Kasich got elected

That's how Kasich got elected in the first place. It was time to pay back those that got him to the dance.

Rhetor
1042
Points
Rhetor 11/14/11 - 07:55 am
0
0
Wow. Some of you guys think

Wow. Some of you guys think that organized labor is socialism, and that paying taxes to support our national defense is communism? Enjoying the Kool-Aid? Have a great day.

justthefacts
24060
Points
justthefacts 11/14/11 - 07:57 am
0
0
Pay backs. Love the

Pay backs. Love the hypocrisy.

dichotomy
36290
Points
dichotomy 11/14/11 - 07:57 am
0
0
The voters in Ohio will feel

The voters in Ohio will feel different when the realities of what they have done become apparent. They are now facing either massive tax hikes or massive layoffs of those same police, firefighters, teachers, and other state government workers. The union leadership will not care about that because all they were concerned with was retaining their power. The law was already producing positive results but now that it has been reversed someone will have to pay the price. I expect the same union supporters who voted to kill the law will be upset when their state income tax and local property taxes go up or they start laying off teachers and police officers.

rmwhitley
5547
Points
rmwhitley 11/14/11 - 08:20 am
0
0
Colleges and universities
Unpublished

Colleges and universities main goal and purpose: socialism. When your guvmint works on the same premise, what do you believe the national outcome will be? Occupy Wall Street protestors and their ilk follow the national trend; 95% sheep- 5%Leaders. hitler, stalin, lenin, adminejhad(sic), mao, castro, chavez, mussolini, ghaddafi, hussein (both), abbas, atilla, bin laden are or were "leaders". How many lives, combined, do you think these international dictators cost the world? America has accepted many immigrants but just how many have assimilated? Remember, press 1 for English.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 08:40 am
0
0
If they stop giving away

If they stop giving away almost a billion dollars in tax breaks and giving all the cronies raises, they could afford a lot of those teachers, firemen, and cops. You have to love how the GOP has turned it around so the folks that take the big bucks are the good guys and teachers, cops, and firemen are now the bad guys. Of course Billy's the resident expert at it, so no big surprise from the editorials. Let me siphon millions of taxpayer money for my businesses but gripe because a cop is overpaid. You people can't see the forest for the trees, and that's just the way the Billy Morris' of the world want it.

Riverman1
90728
Points
Riverman1 11/14/11 - 08:47 am
0
0
Tax breaks mean you are not

Tax breaks mean you are not taking as much of THEIR money THEY earned.

Riverman1
90728
Points
Riverman1 11/14/11 - 08:51 am
0
0
Warren Buffet is on CNBC

Warren Buffet is on CNBC today speaking about his idea to raise the tax rates on the very wealthy. While he does say that, he also says if we don't bring down spending by at least 4% it will be a mistake. He says we have overpromised things to the people.

JRC2024
9998
Points
JRC2024 11/14/11 - 08:53 am
0
0
MY my techfan, I didn't know

MY my techfan, I didn't know Billy Morris had influence in Ohio. My idea would be to let the wells run dry and the payouts stop. Then ask the unions to supply the money for the payouts-not the general public. I am a realist and realize that will never happen but it is not the taxpaying publics responsibility to provide all the retirement pay. You should plan all your working life.

harley_52
25117
Points
harley_52 11/14/11 - 08:54 am
0
0
It's all coming together as

It's all coming together as Karl Marx theorized and as Obama and the rest of the globalist socialists have planned and orchestrated. The intellectual elitists have never liked capitalism, and democracy has always been too sloppy. Give them control of the huddled masses, the assets, and the power and they will build the land of milk and honey for all.

What happened in Ohio is what's been happening throughout the land for several decades. The public was misinformed and misled by people whose self-interest is at direct odds with the public good. Unionized public service employees hold a gun to the head of the very people they are supposed to be serving. "Give us what we demand, or we will not provide the public service you pay us to provide."

What is happening in Europe is happening here, but most people are too ignorant or too gullible to recognize it.

Little Lamb
48004
Points
Little Lamb 11/14/11 - 08:57 am
0
0
Riverman wrote: I'm going to

Riverman wrote:

I'm going to start selling hammer and sickle flags. Have to take advantage of the trend in my greedy capitalist way.

:-) I need to find a silkscreen of the iconic Che Guevara graphic to make some T-shirts to sell alongside you, RM.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 08:58 am
0
0
Tax breaks mean you get to

Tax breaks mean you get to pay your full share of property taxes (and possibly more) so they can pay less or none. Heck yeah, your business is struggling and they pick one, like Marathon Oil, and give them millions in tax breaks, even though they made $2 BILLION in profits (oh, and they gave $146,000 to your campaign. Get all worked up because that cop pays $100 less a month for his health insurance and skip the millions in payoffs. Blind, blind, blind.

harley_52
25117
Points
harley_52 11/14/11 - 09:07 am
0
0
Techfan says "You have to

Techfan says "You have to love how the GOP has turned it around so the folks that take the big bucks are the good guys and teachers, cops, and firemen are now the bad guys."

Purposeful misstatement of the facts.

The "GOP" loves and appreciates teachers, cops, and firemen. They think they should be paid fair wages and benefits for public service employment. They believe mandatory public service unionization with collective bargaining mandates places the public at odds with their own employees and provides the unions the ability to hold the public hostage to their inflated demands.

And the guys that make the big bucks are the good guys. They're the ones paying the overwhelming majority of the taxes that pay the salaries.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 09:08 am
0
0
"The public was misinformed

"The public was misinformed and misled by people whose self-interest is at direct odds with the public good." Yes and it's been the corporations that have done it and you people have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. Maybe a little will "trickle down". It's worked so well since Reagan. The top increase almost 3x, and everyone else's income goes down. Keep going and most of the country will have nothing.

harley_52
25117
Points
harley_52 11/14/11 - 09:11 am
0
0
From the Editorial..."But on

From the Editorial..."But on the strength of some $30 million, much of it from out of state, the unions’ cynical “We Are Ohio” campaign outspent the other side 3-to-1, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The unions fooled the public – or simply overwhelmed an uninspired electorate – by claiming it was “about jobs.”

Read that a few times until you can understand that when liberals whine about money influencing elections it is ALL pure hypocrisy.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 09:12 am
0
0
The GOP like to surround

The GOP like to surround themselves with soldiers, cops, and firemen for photo ops. They don't give a darn about them otherwise. Only an idiot would think any of them are over paid. Get out there and do the same job for the same money and see how overpaid they are. Maybe y'all will get your way and everyone will have to try to live on $15k a year, except the chosen few.

Techfan
6461
Points
Techfan 11/14/11 - 09:14 am
0
0
When the other side starts

When the other side starts disclosing how much and where their donations come from, then you can gripe about the money.

Riverman1
90728
Points
Riverman1 11/14/11 - 09:17 am
0
0
LL, yep, I've used the Che

LL, yep, I've used the Che T-shirt line before too. Ha.

Back to Top

Top headlines

Georgia Regents' hospital plan chosen

Georgia Regents Medical Center won a lengthy and hardfought battle over two other Augusta hospitals to build the first hospital in Columbia County, the Georgia Department of Community Health ...
Search Augusta jobs