Who's being 'extreme' here?

In debt debate, media perpetuate myth of intractable Republicans

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Never have the news media or the news makers been more disingenuous.

If the Democrats who control the White House and Senate and the Republicans who control the House can't agree on a deal to raise the nation's debt limit by Aug. 2, it will most assuredly be the fault of only one of the parties, in the "mainstream" media's view: the Republicans.

And, of course, the Tea Party. CNN's Fareed Zakaria over the weekend lamented the rise of the conservative movement, noting that "many people" -- the media love to use "many people" as cover for "here's what I think" -- are pointing fingers at the Tea Party, blaming them for the loggerheads in Washington.

"Why has the Tea Party become so prominent?" he asked plaintively. "Why is it able to dominate Washington?"

Well, perhaps because their concern for the country's financial future won the election last year, Mr. Zakaria. Maybe they're right that the country is headed off a financial cliff. And maybe a lot of folks agree: Your own CNN poll last week said 66 percent of Americans agree with the House Republican Cut, Cap and Balance Act -- including 63 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of independents -- in which "Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment were passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending were approved."

It's interesting that leftists in the media ignore the will of the people -- and then try to blame one side completely in a disagreement.

Let's turn this around for Fareed: Why are Democrats so opposed to badly needed spending cuts, Mr. Zakaria? If Tea Party balanced-budget dogma is to blame for the debt impasse in your eyes, isn't it just possible that others could see the left-wing soak-the-rich hysteria as the problem?

Moreover, consider: For two years now, Democrats in the House, and now the Senate, have failed to produce a federal budget. Just haven't even tried to write one. The Democratic president wrote a budget that was literally a joke: It earned not one vote in the Senate. Not one.

And yet, Mr. Obama tries to pretend as if he's the adult in the room, that he's the responsible budget-cutter. That's another joke.

He's hanging the country up precariously on a hook, making world markets and ordinary Americans jittery, to press his ideologically rigid view that the half of Americans who pay all the income taxes in this country aren't paying their fair share!

You want to talk "extreme, refuses to compromise, and cares more about purity than problem solving," Mr. Zakaria? Talk about the president.

Mr. Obama tried to make this about corporate jet owners, when he knows the real problem in the federal budget is untold trillions in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid promises we've made that we can't keep. He tries to claim the Republicans are walking away from talks, when sources say what is really happening is that he keeps changing the terms he'll accept (from $800 billion in new revenues to $1.2 trillion).

Have you noticed that the Republicans are the only ones that have put forth a plan? Where is the president's plan? For anything ?

The federal government is on track to consume its host: Historically around 18 percent of the economy, the federal government has grown to about 25 percent. Even Cut, Cap and Balance would allow it to remain at about 20 percent.

It's just the responsible thing to do -- for today and for future generations.

The Washington Post reported Monday that a Republican aide wrote this in an e-mail: "The Speaker, Sen. Reid and Sen. McConnell all agreed on the general framework of a two-part plan. A short-term increase (with cuts greater than the increase), combined with a committee to find long-term savings before the rest of the increase would be considered. Sen. Reid took the bipartisan plan to the White House and the President said no."

Yet, perversely, the "mainstream" media are bent on tarring Republicans as irresponsible and, by extension, the plurality of Americans who put them there.

Sadly enough, it just may work.

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faithson
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faithson 07/26/11 - 12:20 am
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CNN/ORC Poll. July 18-20,

CNN/ORC Poll. July 18-20, 2011. N=1,009 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.
"In those discussions, several budget plans have been proposed that would reduce the amount the government owes by trillions of dollars over the next ten years. If you had to choose, would you rather see Congress and President Obama agree to a budget plan that only includes cuts in government spending, or a budget plan that includes a combination of spending cuts and tax increases on higher-income Americans and some businesses?"

ALL: Spending cuts only;34% Spending cuts and taxes increase;64%

http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

When one looks at this website and digests the information given, your example used in the article is an anomaly. To use this one question without taking into consideration all the rest is 'journalistic chicanery'. Check it out people... This poll says that most of us just want whats best for America, not for Grover Norquist.

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faithson 07/26/11 - 12:28 am
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According to the poll you

According to the poll you cite when read in its entirety, the Main stream media has it right, not you Mr. Ryan. The 34% you suggest should be running our country are just that... a minority, one third not some pie in the sky 66%. Good journalism reports the news, it doesn't MAKE the news.

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carcraft 07/26/11 - 04:47 am
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I really don't have to say

I really don't have to say much, Obama is hanging himself and the Democrats. It will be another blow out in 2012..

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rmwhitley 07/26/11 - 05:00 am
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Unfortunately, if you believe
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Unfortunately, if you believe in obama there is a character flaw. obama is a pathological liar. You don't need polls. Read your "mainstream media" reports of obama's tales and stories. Compare what he says to what he's done.

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Rhetor 07/26/11 - 05:08 am
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It is precisely the kind of

It is precisely the kind of unreasoning, unreasonable, and fact-free rhetoric like this ACES editorial that proves the President to be correct in his criticisms of the conservatives.

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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 05:47 am
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if we agree with obamas

if we agree with obamas premise..and end the tax breaks for the upper 1 per cent it will in theory bring in 80 billion a year..we are spending a1.6 trillion a year in deficiet spending..this is not even tip change..there is probably across the board 15-20 percent waste, fraud and duplication in the federal budget..estimate of 60 billion in fraud alone in medicare..you can not tax your way out of stupidity and waste...that's what we have in DC..not one more dime in taxes, until real structural reforms in all aspects of the budget..to you 47-49 percent that are in the wagon being pulled by tax payers[INCOME] .time to grow up and be adults**one way or another the party is about over for the party of handouts..

Granddaddy John
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Granddaddy John 07/26/11 - 06:36 am
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Odumber and Rhetor in 2012
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Odumber and Rhetor in 2012

Beck Tears
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Beck Tears 07/26/11 - 06:57 am
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The republicans put a budget

The republicans put a budget in the house not too long ago, written up by the Republican Study Committee. The republicans voted against their own plan, made sure it failed when the Democratic party voted 'present' for the budget. Paul Ryan's plan, his own numbers said public debt would increase from $10 trillion in 2011 to $16 trillion in 2021. So Paul Ryan can't write a budget that does anything besides put a lot of burden on our seniors.

The Republicans are playing a weak game of checkers, while President Obama is playing chess. There was a democratic measure, the cuts include $1.2 trillion from across a range of hundreds of government programs and $1 trillion in savings assumed to derive from the end of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Boehner ridiculed the $1 trillion in war savings as gimmicky, but in fact, they were contained in the budget the House passed earlier in the year.

The problem is that republicans hate Obama so much, they would watch the country fail and hope the blame falls on Obama so that they can be in power again.

Even Reagan raised taxes. Just let the Bush tax cuts expire for the rich, and you've solved a large problem.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 07:09 am
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beck tears--you could not be

beck tears--you could not be more wrong--its obumler that hates america..its obumler that is out of his league..

Beck Tears
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Beck Tears 07/26/11 - 07:18 am
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FanofObama.... No you're

FanofObama.... No you're wrong. The way I know you're wrong is that I live in reality. I know the republicans goal is to make Obama a one term President. They don't care about America, her citizens, creating jobs, protecting the environment, nothing. They only care about their power, and how can they get more. This is proven time and time again every time Obama caves and says he'll give in to the republicans- and the right just says "NO!". They refuse to govern. This is why you do not negotiate with terrorists.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 07/26/11 - 07:27 am
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I'd be willing to pay more
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I'd be willing to pay more taxes, PROVIDED congress passes real spending cuts to entitlement programs AND A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT, something Dems in the senate and Obama don't want. Why should we pay more taxes if there is no law preventing our government spending it and getting us deeper in the hole? To our idiot president and equally idiot Dem senate members, PASS A BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT!

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Chillen 07/26/11 - 08:00 am
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The Republicans need to dig

The Republicans need to dig in their heels and stick to the reason that they were given back the majority. We want no new taxes and we want massive spending cuts.

Mr. obama. We don't have a revenue problem. You have a spending problem. Get a grip on yourself.

Chillen
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Chillen 07/26/11 - 08:03 am
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becktears. You have it

becktears. You have it backwards. The Republicans goal is to make obama a one term President --- because they care about America, her citizens, creating jobs, the economy, etc.

With him in place, none of that is happening. Believe it or not.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 08:19 am
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beck tear--please show me the

beck tear--please show me the obama plan..where can i read it..to compare plans ...no hear say please somthing in writing..and please dont be so naive..its the opposition party that always wants to defeat a sitting prez..or are you telling me BUSH had no opposition. republicans have had the house since jan. 2011..obama basically got everything he wanted prior to that..what did we get 4 trillion more in debt..no hope..a community organizer...and beck i am not a terrorist.. i am one of the taxpayers who realizes that there are far to many TAKERS and not givers..if you think 1-1/2 trillion deficet spending is doable..its you who lives in a fantasy world..

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 08:23 am
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southerguy--i echo your

southerguy--i echo your sentiments..except i would add get rid of the waste, fraud and duplication in govt..if we cant take care of our truly needy after that ..re-visit taxes... but i think there is plenty of money if they dont squander it..

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allhans 07/26/11 - 08:43 am
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THEN... Sorry folks.

THEN...
Sorry folks.

lsmith
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lsmith 07/26/11 - 09:03 am
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If a government default would
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If a government default would result in Obamanator's defeat in 2012, that'd be a small price to pay. Any default would surely be short term. On the other hand Four more years of the obamanator would result in a long term crippling of not only our economy but our culture as well.
The debt battle has rightfully turned into a war. The future of our country hangs in the balance. I'm hoping fiscal responsiblity prevails. Mr. obama, I know they didn't teach you this at Harvard, but at some point in your life, please learn how to balance your checkbook, you inablity to wrap your brain around that concept is bankrupting our country.
I don't care what you do with your own money, but I got real problems with your handling of mine.......

Granddaddy John
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Granddaddy John 07/26/11 - 09:11 am
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Man there is a whole flock of
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Man there is a whole flock of government sheep on here this morning.

Beck Tears
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Beck Tears 07/26/11 - 09:12 am
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The fact you think

The fact you think consequences of defaulting is small and worth doing demonstrates you have zero idea of finances, and world economy.

Here is a chart for people to look at, for those who say Obama added 4 trillion.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24editorial_...

Chillen
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Chillen 07/26/11 - 09:19 am
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lsmith, I agree 100%. This

lsmith, I agree 100%. This debt battle is about more than just the debt ceiling. The direction we go will dictate the future of this nation. It is literally a civil war.

Give obama a break, what do you expect from someone who was coddled throughout his entire life? Had his educated fully funded (by who I wonder? foreign student grants?)

When he became a senator, he hit the lottery! Oddly and mysteriously, his wealth went from $300,002 to $4,960,505. An increase of 1124% - before he was even President!

Balancing a checkbook is not even on his radar. He is living like royalty on our dime with his luxury vacatations, golf, the all-time biggest white house personal staff and perpetual parties. He has no clue what it means to actually work for a living. He's part of the progressive chicago club of "elite".

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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 09:27 am
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beck-the graph is about cost

beck-the graph is about cost of NEW policies..obumler bloated the federal budget about 20 per cent each year . WHICH WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE GRAPH. ..you mize well say apples are oranges..and the premise they use is wrong..tax cuts are not govt expenses...its NOT the govt money to begin with..obumler cannot escape the fact that he accelerated us to finicial diaster at a rate faster than any prez b/4 him..and if BUSH spending is the reason we are today at the cliff..lets go back to the 2008 budget and freeze it....debate over cost drops by 800 to 1 trillion next year or more if you take tarp out..i

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rmwhitley 07/26/11 - 09:58 am
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As is normal, the uninformed
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As is normal, the uninformed speak emotionally rather than rationally. How long has obama been aware of an "August 2nd Deadline"? I am no genius by any stretch of the imagination but have been aware of this "arbitrary deadline" since January, 2011.

Beck Tears
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Beck Tears 07/26/11 - 10:30 am
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Reagan only turned the United

Reagan only turned the United States, the world's largest international creditor, into the world's largest debtor nation. Just sweep that fact under the rug.

Chillen
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Chillen 07/26/11 - 10:36 am
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Anyone who wants to continue

Anyone who wants to continue giving obama a blank check should check out this video someone put together.

It takes you on a visual & factual tour of a welfare housing complex that houses welfare recipients and foreigners. On your dime (if you are one of the 50% actually paying taxes).

Oh, and btw, our social security fund is paying for this. No wonder it will be broke by the time I retire. My wealth is being literally stolen and redistributed. I feel sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu6ok5ykyuQ&feature=youtu.be

lsmith
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lsmith 07/26/11 - 10:51 am
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Beck Tears. History seems to
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Beck Tears. History seems to think Ronald Reagan did a pretty good job of putting this country back to good health after the disastrous Jimmy Carter years. When the subject of past presidents comes up in conversation Reagan seems to get favorable reviews. Jimmy Carter is widely believed to be in among the worst presidents ever, but chin up Jimmy you're soon to be over shadowed by the great Oba-wana-knobee.....
And as for my understanding of finances and world economy, spare me....I'm 60 years old, been around ya know? I don't need an economic lesson from anyone. I don't need to see statiistical charts, or babble from tv talking heads to see the reality of things. One really doesn't need to consult anything other than their own common sense and perceptions to get properly grounded.

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Riverman1 07/26/11 - 10:58 am
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We have two differnt goals is

We have two differnt goals is the problem. The Republicans want to stop the spending to keep our capitalistic country's government solvent. President Obama feels it's unfair the wealthy have so much.

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Riverman1 07/26/11 - 10:56 am
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All I know is the years I

All I know is the years I made lots in the stock market, I paid enough taxes to keep a few federal bureaucracies going. The years I lost money in the market, no one from the government even sent me a deepest sympathy card.

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carcraft 07/26/11 - 11:22 am
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Becktears- You state "Reagan

Becktears- You state "Reagan only turned the United States, the world's largest international creditor, into the world's largest debtor nation. Just sweep that fact under the rug". Now please explain to me how Reagan turned the United States into a debtor nation when the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate? Seems to me Obama is having trouble because the Republicans controlling just one house of Congress can control Obama and the Democrats spending..LOL Please read a little of the Constitution and see who controlls the purse strings. Reagan tried to stop spending by shutting down the government because the DEMOCRATS kept appropriating money and Reagan could either sign it into law or veto it. The Budget surpluses Obama talked about Clinton having-look who controlled the purse strings when those occured.. I believe it was the Republicans that caused Clinton to tighten his belt..

carcraft
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carcraft 07/26/11 - 11:19 am
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Obama is getting so bad even

Obama is getting so bad even Democrats are hoping some one will run in a Primary against him per Good old liberal Bernie Sanders..LOL

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 07/26/11 - 11:28 am
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during the carter years we as

during the carter years we as college students were told not to expect a house or a standard of living our parents enjoyed...sound famaliar?????? wheres the new reagan when you need him...

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